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Microsoft defends Xbox One $500 price point--"We're over-delivering value"

Microsoft's Xbox boss Don Mattrick has spoken out to defend the Xbox One's $500 price point, saying the company is in fact over-delivering value with the next-generation system.

"It's a lower number than some of the analysts had forecasted," Mattrick said on Bloomberg TV. "We're over-delivering value against other choices I think consumers can get. Any modern product these days you look at it [and] $499 isn't a ridiculous price point. We're delivering thousands of dollars of value to people, so I think they're going to love it when they use it."

Competitor Sony will offer its PlayStation 4 at $400 this holiday season, but Mattrick believes consumers will choose Xbox One for its suite of exclusive services and applications like an improved Xbox Live, as well as Skype, Twitch TV, SmartGlass, and Kinect.

"We're really making the living room your center of fun for your family," Mattrick said.

Every Xbox One will include a Kinect 2.0 sensor, while PS4 gamers will need to pay $60 to purchase a PlayStation Eye camera.

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Mr_Nuts3965d ago

God how arrogant, they make Sony in 2006 look normal.

Convas3965d ago

Nope. MS says stick with a 360 if you've got no internet, Sony said I'd need two jobs.

Sorry, both are equally arrogant and inconsiderate and Sony did not, does not, nor ever will sound NORMAL in regards to those comments they made at the start of this generation.

Mr_Nuts3965d ago

But was it worth it...in the end

People laughed and criticized blu ray...and I'm glad they put it in because we got games like Uncharted 2, God of War 3, Last of Us etc. Even at the time blu ray players were really expensive so looking back I don't mind paying that much.

That whole "stick with a 360 line" among other things MS have said are just dickish in my opinion. I mean Sony said the whole get two jobs thing but MS's mouth has just not stopped blabbing and insulting their core fanbase so you know, looking back Sony then looked like saints compared to the MS as of now.

dedicatedtogamers3965d ago

"Sony said I'd need two jobs. "

Actually, no. They said you'd want the system so bad that you would be willing to work more hours. Still a jerk thing to say, but nothing compared to what Microsoft has been saying.

insomnium23965d ago

@dedicated

Thank you for the correction. It's unbelievable how people have spun the things Sony said back then. Imo the weren't even that arrogant. Just your typical PR talk.

Kutaragi with his Karate master talk was in the same class as this "stick with the x360". The difference however is and was that Sony targeted MS with their talk, MS targets their fanbase. Imo it's atleast 1000 times worse o talk down on your fanbase than it is to do it to your competitor but what do I know, that's just me. I've been called a fanboy for this many many times.

PS-Analog3964d ago

I think Mr Nuts is also refering to other statements like "The console is worth thousands", The submarine quote and the internet quote wasn't put like that it was more like "We have a device that works offline, its called a 360". That just a snidey remark.

Dee_913964d ago

That box design is pretty epic.

Ritsujun3964d ago

Awww... stop crying, Don Patrick.

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_QQ_3965d ago

What they are offering actually is a good deal on paper,considering kinect 2.0.The problem is nobody wants kinect, it should be a side option.

NewZealander3964d ago

i think the price is great, i expected both consoles to cost far more, in fact here in new zealand i can buy BOTH consoles for the same price that the ps3 was at launch!

both companies can be incredibly arrogant, but at the same time words tend to get misconstrued on the internet, people tend to fly off the handle over comments that probably arnt meant with the level of malice that people take from them.

MWong3964d ago

I don't think anybody can misconstrued, "if you don't have an internet connection, we have a device for you it's called 360."

I cannot believe that every game on the XBone will be multiplayer. So why would I need an online connection with a single player game. Or why the hell do I need to pay $500 for a console and then check in at least once a day, like I'm on parole.

That's my biggest annoyance with M$ this generation.

NewZealander3963d ago

i agree and understand why people have issues with the always online thing, but at the end of the day its just a console, and im not going to let that ruin my experience when it comes to playing games.

yes i think microsoft should change it, although i own both current consoles and prefer xbox i am not a fanboy, and despite my preference i have done all i can to help the cause on www.xboxshun.com and twitter etc, i do believe the gamers should stand up for what they believe in.

but ill still be getting both consoles regardless, both will have great features and exclusives, and like i said the price isnt that bad, people pay more for a smart phone! the ps4 here is half the price the ps3 was at launch! ps3 costed $1200.00 ps4 costs $649.00 XBOX1 is $740.00, the same price the 360 was at launch.
we in new zealand pay higher prices then most of the world, yet these prices are still great.

if people want microsoft to listen this isnt the place to do it, spam major nelson on his blog or twitter, sign up on xboxshun, facebook or whatever, theres plenty of places to protest.

Picnic3964d ago (Edited 3964d ago )

It's got Kinect - which, like Sony's Move and Eye camera would normally cost money - and Skype.

Those alone make the price very competitive compared to the PS4.

Although the launch all about television was a bit ludicrous to me. What is this- the 1950s?

But, in the long run, just about the only main reasons to think that the PS4 is so much better is if you happen to prefer their exclusives and controller. Or if you think that Playstation Plus has and will offer better value.

It's easy to see any console nowadays that 'only does everything' as an arrogant gesture but I think that people are going way overboard. It's really that used games policy that put many people's backs up but that's of no concern to me when I decide whether the XboxOne or the PS4 is offering the best games and control systems to play those games.

If Microsoft throw in some interesting new franchise in to the works, I'm not going to be grudging about the XboxOne just because I owned a PS3 this time. I might want to play that new franchise.

MadMen3964d ago

LOL you could never make SONY in 2006 look normal, EVER.

But this load of BS from MS is lame. They forget not everyone wants the cam.

alb18993964d ago

Considering that 8 year ago the 360 launch was 399 a ps3 599, I'm impress that the X1 is 499 and more impress that SONY is 399.
What I think is that SONY had advantage because they new the price of the X1 and saw the games that Microsoft offer so they new that they have to put the price down.
The price is good for both!

Do you think that Microsoft will put the same price if they new?
If Microsoft new then the story could have been the opposite.

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Mikelarry3965d ago

they do love to throw that word around value. how can it be value when you are forcing users how are not interested in parts of the console and and being forced to pay and call it value

vitullo313965d ago (Edited 3965d ago )

Thousands of dollars of value LOL hilarious

Heartnet3965d ago

Forced? no1 is forcing u yo buy the console lol

Like saying i dont want the DS4 but sony is forcing me to buy it jeez why cant they just knock of the 54£ ffs...

WalterWJR3965d ago (Edited 3965d ago )

Well considering a lot of people who would like xbox one without kinect, to them it is forced.

Mikelarry3965d ago

Kinect is a forced add on you know it and i know it so stop acting like it is not.

jmc88883965d ago

That is absolute crap.

You're comparing to a NSA spying device in Kinect to an actual controller.

Why don't you sell your car and buy some old fashioned roller SKATES.

rainslacker3964d ago

They aren't even calling it added value. That's what supplemental features on a game console are...added value. They really are not focusing on games for this.

PS3 was a game console first. The added value(although arguable) was that they were offering the best blu-ray player on the market, for roughly half the price of other blu-ray players on the market. It also offered several media features which were in their infancy for the TV at the time(such as streaming from PC).

All this added value in X1 isn't being asked for. It's already available in abundance through much cheaper options. It may be convenient, but it's like throwing a bunch of attachments onto a vacuum cleaner. Basically all a vacuum cleaner has to do is suck up dirt from the floor, those attachments ability to perform it's intended task is dodgy at best.

alb18993964d ago

Is the same with every product you buy this days, tvs, phones, tablets, cameras.....I mean every product has features that you don't want but you have to pay for them.

Picnic3964d ago

Because if you're not interested in the Kinect 2.0 part of the console then you're not... actually all that interested in the console in the first place.

If you're not someone who likes a bit of colourful fun from time to time in your games then you'll probably be growling at the XboxOne with your state of the art PC and ultra serious games in any case.

So it makes perfect sense for Microsoft to make the Kinect 2.0 a required part of the console as a selling point over the PS4.

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swansong3965d ago

MS pr protocol, Put foot in mouth.

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Xbox Is Not Your Friend

After laying off almost 2,000 people, Xbox finds itself in a position at odds with the community-first image it has cultivated for itself.

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TwoPicklesGood3h ago

lol I’m not a big MS gamer but Sony and a number of others have laid off ton of people as well. Where are the ridiculous articles about them not being your friend? Gaming news is such a joke and these sites wonder why they have to beg for money/patreons or flood with 5x more ads.

Profchaos2h ago

I think the sentiment is corporations are there to make money they are not out friends that are harsh and cutthroat when lt comes to the bottom line so why do we proclaim our love for any gaming company from the rooftops when they wouldn't care about us unless we are buying the next thing.

We need to beore objective with how we view these "teams"

Gridknac1h ago

This is the absolute truth. The only part of you these companies, ALL companies, want to be friends with is your bank account. They don't care what they have to say, who's job they have to cut, or what shady underhandedness they must engage in. Bottom line is all that matters.

Vits52m ago

Because people unfortunately make these companies and products part of their own persona, so when they are scrutinized, they see it as an attack on themselves. There is some neuropsychological research around this phenomenon, but it basically has the same effect as religion. It helps foster a sense of community that humans need to feel comfortable. So that is not happening unless we have a sudden surge of people actually understanding how they work and taking control of themselves.

Magatsuhi47m ago

While it's true Sony isn't a friend either, let's not pretend that they're even in the same ballpark as MS's anti consumer practices. Sony is not a friend but atleast they're not an enemy like MS.

derek1h ago

@twopickles, were you not paying attention? Sony was heavily criticized when they laid off people weeks ago, more than Microsoft did with their massive abk layoffs.

Gamingsince19811h ago

I want to know who thought Xbox was community first anyway lmfao

ChasterMies24m ago

That’s Whataboutism. Sony and other game companies didn’t pay more than $80B to buy up publishers. Microsoft said in court that it wasn’t going to have redundancies and fire people. Microsoft told Xbox owners that they would have a AAA on GamePass each quarter. But here we are with Microsoft Game Studios shrinking. Consolidation doesn’t benefit the consumer, and no company has consolidated more than Microsoft.

BehindTheRows20m ago(Edited 19m ago)

Exactly. They love their SonyToo instead of looking at everything in its totality. You spend $80B to buy up so many pubs/devs, you damn well should have something to show for it.

That said, this article is old and someone is clearly looking for clicks!

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cthulhucultist2h ago

ok here is a reality check. Tech companies have been firing thousands of employees the last couple of years.

I find it odd that the percentage of employees sacked from MS

QUOTE
"Microsoft announced approximately 1,900 job cuts across its gaming division, including Activision Blizzard, ZeniMax, and Xbox. 8.6% of its colossal 22,000-strong global workforce. "

is worth writing an article condemning the company, when Sony Interactive fired 8% of its workforce (900 people approximately).

https://news.crunchbase.com...

Is the writer concerned about the percentage of the workforce fired or the number of employees?

Lets not forget that Unity laid off 25 percent of its workforce (1800 people) and Discord laid off 17 percent of its employees.

You also have to take into account the AI issue reported in the article. MS is heavily invested in A.I. They have invested in Open A.I (chatgpt 4+Dalle 3), in Abu Dhabi’s G42 and in French AI company Mistral.

These LLMs have already replaced thousands of jobs as A.I usage becomes more common

https://www.cbsnews.com/new...
https://www.theverge.com/20...
https://tech.co/news/compan...

This is the new reality. Even nvidia CEO said that games will fully A.I generated.

https://www.pcgamer.com/sof...

Nevertheless, no company should be ever viewed as "your friend". MS had numerous anti consumer practices in place and the same is true for Sony (not only in video game space) and Nintendo (60$ dollar games without permanent discounts, remasters of 10 year old game with full price, no console price cuts, expensive joy cons which are prone to drift, to name but a few).

Popsicle2h ago

Must be. Thought it to be common knowledge that no corporation is your friend.

rippermcrip1h ago

Xbox had a community-first image? Since when?

shaenoide1h ago

Any given company is not "friendly"...

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere14h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN12h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos9h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN2h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo4h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies29m ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger12h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Profchaos14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto14h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos13h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long10h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel13h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator12h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10111d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref11d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde11d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197211d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville10d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218310d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos10d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai11d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref11d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan11d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00710d ago (Edited 10d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197211d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref11d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde11d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197211d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier10d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto11d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218310d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto10d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman11d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts11d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts10d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic10d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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