Xbox One Day One Pre-Orders Hold Strong as Amazon PS4 Bundles Flourish

TheHDRoom: "There seems to be steady interest in Microsoft's Xbox One Day One Edition console pre-orders despite Sony's PlayStation 4 holding four of the top ten slots on Amazon.com's video game bestsellers chart. I expect both Xbox One and PlayStation 4 to be sold out by the time their launch days arrive in November. For right now, PS4 is riding a wave of positive buzz off E3 to be the stronger performer when it comes to pre-orders at Amazon."

[zeee]

I would be worried if it weren't that way. Xbox One is after all a next-gen console and people spend way more on much less.

Yes, PS4 will probably outsell Xbox One on launch (heck the PS4 launch edition on Amazon was out of stock with in few hours) but that doesn't mean that Xbox One will just fall off the planet earth.

[HammadTheBeast]

Just pointing out that 6 separate PS4 bundles are in the top 10. Meanwhile One One bundle is in the top 10.

[xursz]

True. I saw Battlefield 4 bundle, Watchdogs, Killzone, Launch Bundle, Standard (and another?) in the top 10 sellers. Getting one this holiday will prove difficult for some, and that's not for lack of supply.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

It is interesting that PS4 on Amazon has a bunch of bundles and MS is only offering 1 bundle. I wonder if this is due to Sony pushing more consoles allocation for the US. Would be interesting to see what the make up looked like if they both had multiple bundles.

[UNGR]

This is also Amazon, not every other retailer hosting pre-orders. I want them both to do well, competition brings out the best games.

[T2]

@xursz - they have a ps4 , bf4 bundle ?... Damn and I thought I could wait a bit to buy it ...

[JhawkFootball06]

@HammandTheBeast

Not to say the PS4 isn't outselling the Xbox One (Because it is immensely), but the reason there are 6 seperate PS4 bundles and only one Xbox One bundle in the top 10 is because simply there is only one Xbox one bundle on Amazon. It would have been nice to include that in your comment.

[HammadTheBeast]

^

Logically, that one bundle should be completely wiping out PS4 considering PS4 pre orders are spread over 6 consoles. Instead its second.

[imdaboss1]

eventually the xbone will fall of the earth..the average consumer will buy it but then take it back after finding out about all the restriction that comes with it..you know how many kids be like i cant play my games cuz of no internet and cant sell it? their parent will just trade it in for the PS4..

[Nocando]

Once the bullshit that was Sony's presentation wears off consumers will start to come around.

[LastDance]

who the fuck reads instruction manuals for consoles?

What world do you live in.

[WorldGamer]

Wow @ imaboss1, seems like you really hit a nerve with that comment man. Lol. Be careful sir.

[rainslacker]

Yeah Edonus, I believe they don't. Most people don't read the instructions of something until they've brought it, if at all.

For a $500 device, given today's internet, many people before spending that kind of money will look into it though.

So perhaps the argument is stupid. People probably would never get a chance to read the manual, because they won't bother to buy it given current trends and the literal destruction that the press is giving the X1 right now, and likely all the way up till launch day, and probably after once the less informed start bitching about it too.

I can tell you, most people ears perk up when the words consumer rights get thrown around without hesitation. Games may not be as important to them as their freedom to do what they want with those purchases.

[sourav93]

Wasn't there an article a couple of days ago stating that you might not be able to sell your Xbox One used?

[Dynasty2021]

One look at the inevitable 1-star rating for Xbox One on Amazon vs the 2 or 3 star for PS4 will sway many people away from Xbox One.

There will be massive, desperately-pathetic trolling reviews for both systems, but because more will buy the PS4, I'd suspect the PS4's star-rating to be higher.

Believe me, PLENTY of people read reviews before buying things, and a 1-star is hard to ignore.

[unicron7]

#Nocando- "Once the bullshit that was Sony's presentation wears off consumers will start to come around." Not really sure what bullshit you are referring to. If anything, look at MS and it's never-ending stream of question dodging and half ass answers. Sony is delivering a system to it's fans with features that they WANT and has answered every question truthfully. Unlike MS, they aren't forcing anything on you as a consumer. Choices are an awesome thing to have.

@edonus- Don't delude yourself into thinking that everyone in the world has internet access. A good majority of the US still doesn't have access to broadband. It get's worse as you get out of the US, aside from a few places such as South Korea and Japan. This move by MS is about 20 years early and they will pay dearly for it.

[Blaze929]

you see I wonder about that. I thought when you break the seal of a brand new console, you can't return it. Only exchange for the same item.

When I used to work at hhgregg, the managers never allowed us to return open videogame hardware or software. Only exchange if theres a fault. I wonder how the Xbox One will be treated.

[rainslacker]

@Blaze

Most places have policies like that. However, all a customer has to do is say it doesn't work. Would be partially accurate if they don't have a net connection. Kind of depends on the retailer though. Most places aren't willing to piss off a customer when they can just RMA the console back to the distributor.

Amazon I'm wondering about. They gave refunds for SimCity. If MS has a strict no return policy, and people want to return this thing in droves, Amazon will likely accept them. Amazon has enough retail muscle to force the distributor to accept the RMA.

If it gets bad enough before, or after launch I'm wondering if more stores will disclose all the details to the customer beforehand. I know most bigger stores allow you to sign an agreement at time of purchase, that could be extended to something like, "You know and understand the limitations of the console".

[hellzsupernova]

The damn playstation camera is in the top 20 lol
Sny is smashing Microsoft at the moment! Hoe the momentum continues
Love live play

[NameRemoved0017]

Wait for the real sales data to come out after the consoles launch, PS4 will obliterate the xbone in sales.

[TMRBac]

Most of the general public probably isn't even aware of the new consoles yet. When Christmas shopping time rolls around, they won't care about DRM, used games policy or online check-in. They will see next Xbox and whip out the credit card.

[manman6]

You would be surprises how many people know about the new console. Xbox and PlayStation are household names now.

[CGI-Quality]

Why would they "whip out the credit card" for the more expensive console faster than the cheaper one? The PlayStation brand was FAR stronger than the Xbox brand @ the launch of the PS3. How did that turn out?

[punisher99]

The general public? If thats the case then they will buy the cheaper PS4.

[LondonMediaOS]

I disagree never disregard the power of social media. All the DRM, used game policies and online checks are all over the place. And for a place like tumblr, to have 1000+ notes on any subject is eye catching and I have seen personally numerous post regarding Xbox One, thats not even mentioning twitter.

[Akuma2K]

And once they found out first hand about the DRM, used games policy and online check in (the things that you say they won't care about).....best believe the Xbone is getting returned back to the store to get a PS4 or WiiU.

[mistertwoturbo]

Actually that's funny, most of the standard consumers probably "whipped out the credit card" for the XBOX360 is because it was cheaper.

Now they will "whip out the credit card" for the PS4 because it's cheaper. And good thing too since they will get the better console for a better price.

[rainhell77]

I will be buying both! No reason for me to lose out on any game!

[TMRBac]

@punisher99 I don't remember the PS1 launch off the top of my head, but PS2 and PS3 were damn near impossible to get at launch, even with the PS3's then $600 price tag. PS4 will sell at launch regardless. How Sony supports it into 2014 and beyond will be the real test.

Microsoft could still turn around and launch a $399 model if they absolutely had to.

The war won't be won this holiday season, and I'm not picking sides just yet.

[Nocando]

Good.

[horndog]

That is the truth. Consumers dont know about "better graphics card" and they wont sit playing games day in and day out They will see that the xbox comes with features that arent offered with the ps4 and will see that they are getting more for their buck. They dont care about being always on line because chances are they might already have cable boxes and other devices that require "always on" internet connections so it will be normal to them. Xboxone wont come flying out of the gates like ps4 will but it wont fai like the fanboys here would love to see. Its MS, the company with tge deep pockets who buy everything they need to make things happen unlike sony who's trying to recover from the red and were even considering splitting the company up. Sony NEEDS for the ps4 to succeed.

Btw no positive xbox articles on n4g please! You should know better

[unicron7]

and I will be out there telling as many average joe shoppers possible about these restrictions and the harm it can cause.

[ElementX]

Sony doesn't release real numbers. MS does however

*EDIT* Sony gives out numbers during investor meetings however they don't give out monthly numbers.

*EDIT* why so many disagrees? When has Sony ever released NPD numbers? I know they don't give numbers in Europe, either.

[NameRemoved0017]

Just because Sony won't report it doesn't stop Gamestop or Amazon from saying how many PS4's they sell.

[ElementX]

Amazon doesn't give out numbers, either

[sashimi]

Well while we're on the topic of real numbers, can you find some official RROD numbers lol. The only real thing coming from M$ are their greed.

[NameRemoved0017]

@sashimi

The estimate is 25%-50% of the xboxs that were around during the RROD period got it.

[ShadesMoolah]

The general public, or the Average Joe consumer will likely be confused by the name alone - Xbox One, that right there will be a stumbling block for an uninformed parent looking for the next console for Christmas, and I think the Kinect 2.0 ramping up the price is a factor for many, especially those who have played much of the crap released on Xbox 360 Kinect, though there were a handful of decent titles.

And when they enquire in-store about Xbox One, I believe every retailer will be obligated to inform the buyer of the always-on nature, the fact that games become unplayable after 24hrs without being connected -- However, recent news suggests that Microsoft are now looking at letting games be played Offline by temporarily disabling the Shared Games associated with any account that has been offline for more than 24hrs, so it might be a bit more approachable after all.

[Nik_P757]

As far as general public not knowing that is absurd. These announcements make primetime national news and they discuss the market and things like xbox drm. What planet do you live on; or do you not watch the news?

[FrigidDARKNESS]

When folks finally realise that the xb1 does allow you to trade games with retailers and also allow you to play them the pre orders will sotay strong.

[TMRBac]

6 disagrees. There is a much larger world that hasn't voted with their wallets yet. Xbox as a brand is still very strong. Xbone is far from dead on arrival.

[M-M]

Well, those people will most likely be the clueless parents that buy it for their kids, not knowing what it's actually capable of. A lot of my "bro dude" friends who pretty much only had the Xbox 360 and are looking into getting a PS4 over the Xbox One. The Xbox One's policy buzz is spreading further than just online retail stores and game sites, some of the stuff was even on Yahoo's front page.

[killacal13]

I just realised there are more xbox people now than a few weeks ago, I wonder how many are on microsucks payroll.

[Narutone66]

A lot of the hardcore 360 gamers are switching to PS next generations. If you take into consideration, the fact that a lot of regions will not be able to play the XB1 when in comes out this year. While PS4 can be played in any regions.

[erngoods]

lets not forget that u can no longer trade games with or lend games to friends without being xbox friends for 30 days. Or that if ur only a casual gamer u still need to subscribe to xbox live just to use netflix and the like...

[GraveLord]

Well the Wii U sold well at launch too. Both PS4 and Xbox One have their fans that will buy the console no matter what. It's the months after launch that will really tell us how this war will go. PS4 is winning so far and if I were a betting man, I'd bet on PS4 for the long run as well.

[NameRemoved0017]

Sony has been winning the console sales war for 3 years in a row even if the xbox didn't have all its restrictions and kinect it would still lose to Sony in worldwide sales.

[Bigpappy]

May be so. But Sony wants The Americas and U.K back badly. That's where the big money is. Even though PS3 was making a big push after being behind a year, 360 continued to sell more games per console and overall.

[Parapraxis]

" 360 continued to sell more games per console and overall."
You got a source for that?

[doublebear]

I think Sony will have sold more consoles by the time this generation is over.

But it's clear from the pay for online move that they covet Microsoft's subscription money.

[Bigpappy]

Where ever you find "Sony has been winning the console sales war for 3 years" you will also find software sales and attached rates. I have been reading many sources over the years and 360 always lead in software sales and attached rate.

[NewZealander]

seriously who cares what company sells the most consoles! oh yeah fanboys do!

i couldn't give a flying f*ck if sony or microsoft sells more, thats on them not me! i dont kick back playing halo or uncharted and think OMG this game would be WAYYYY better if X company sold more consoles!

people on here need to grow the F up and learn to just enjoy games rather then constantly bitching at each other over console sales!

i will get both consoles, because i love games, always have always will! by being so brand loyal and one sided people only stop themselves from enjoying the thing they claim to enjoy, play the games not the console!

[LastDance]

and what will you say if the console doesn't release a game in AUST/NZ because it's sales are down and it can't afford to.

Oh if it's region-locked X1, you're screwed..I bet you'd have something to say then.

[M-M]

I'm worried that it's still up there, people really want to buy that restrictive thing?

[Xaphy]

Most people still don't know whats going on. Who would think microsoft is implementing DRM and always online all of a sudden?Not everyone visits gaming sites everyday. Eventually the truth will come out and people will opt for the better ie ps4.

[Narutone66]

You would be surprised how some people are so clueless. I had a friend who thought the PS4 was the one implementing the 24h online check o_O
I told her that it's the XB1 who is implementing it.

[theWB27]

People really think this Xbox is going to fail..newsflash it won't and that goes beyond preorder sales. I hope all three do well...

[M-M]

It won't fail, but I can definitely tell you that Microsoft won't be getting the sales numbers that they were expecting.

[punisher99]

"People really think this Xbox is going to fail..newsflash it won't and that goes beyond preorder sales. I hope all three do well... "

Whether it fails or not thats up for debate. But that doesnt excuse the fact that its still gonna get outsold by its main competitor for the 3rd generation straight.

[theWB27]

Which you get no cut in, so I don't understand why anyone cares about the numbers beyond their system not folding out of the business.

[Transporter47]

@tehWB27

It has nothing to do about getting a cut, if you support a product you expect top quality out of it, now if that product they sell you restricts from actually enjoying it, the product maker should listen to their consumers and not f**k em over like they know what's best for them.

[erngoods]

@theWB27

it matters for support, more consoles sold means more studios getting on board to create for that console, more exclusive content, and good ol' bragging rights

[ZBlacktt]

Some are loyal til death.

[doublebear]

Titanfall was the only remotely interesting thing coming to the Xbox One at E3. And that isn't exclusive.

Is it just the COD: Ghost Dog bros getting the 1?

[Belking]

" And that isn't exclusive."

It may not be exclusive but it's the most talked about game at E-3 and the only console it's on is Xbox-one and will be for a year or maybe longer.

[Saints94]

"Most talked about" is subjective.

[koolaid251]

TitanFall is only on xbox 360,xbone and Pc and you need Microsoft Windows to play it on Pc so therefore it's a Microsoft exclusive!!!

[ZBlacktt]

Yes, we've seen this story posted already. With Sony owning 9 of the top 10 spots.

[Belking]

"With Sony owning 9 of the top 10 spots."

Sounds like you are making stuff up.....lol Sony has never had that in the US and they won't this time either. Xbox is still gonna come out on top.

[ZBlacktt]

Click here....

http://n4g.com/news/1283278...

[xursz]

He didn't make that up.

[TheEvilWithin]

This is the funniest thing I have read all day. Keep telling yourself that. Microsoft MIGHT put you on there payroll so you can afford there fancy new cable box.

[SpinalRemains]

Top of what?

It loses every generation
Xbox is 2 for 2 in being the least popular. Fact.

It is a short time before it is 3 for 3

[jjb1981]

I am a huge playstation fan but I think there are still going to be millions of people that are going to buy Xbox one in th long run. I have both systems paid off and since I buy a majority of my games new (90%) and my consoles always have an Ethernet cable plugged into them I don't have a problem with check in. I do have a problem though with the tradein policy regarding Xbox one games.

[gamertk421]

Problem with trade-in policy because it will be select retailers?

[jjb1981]

If gamestop or any retailer have to pay a re activation fee, then the tradein value would drop to incur that cost. I'm not sure how it will play out but I will still own it because I buy mostly new games. I wonder if I could just turn the kinect away and stick some action figures in front of it... I'm sure somebody will figure some workaround to the "always watching" kinect.

[unicron7]

I have broadband and buy new games most of the time anyway, but I still won't be buying XB1 out of principle. I will not support an always on device or any device that has to authenticate software in which you have purchased. What you buy is yours. Period. I have friends that game offline due to having no internet connection and I refuse to see a gaming console manufacturer throw them under the bus. If they can't play on an XB1 I refuse to as well.

[jjb1981]

I totally respect your opinion. I really thought about it and almost decided not to buy one. I'm really interested in the next halo and Titan fall. I'm not really a PC gamer although I do have a few steam games. I don't support the way chickens are raised and slaughtered but Ill still eat a chicken sandwich from KFC. As long as I get quality games like I did this gen then I'm ok with Xbox one. I've never had a problem with with my ISP so the checkin doesn't bother me.

[CaulkSlap]

Xbox One is most definitely going to sell decently at first. There's probably 5-10 million XBL zealots out there who will buy it no matter what. The real question is will sales continue after the initial launch window. $100 more and widespread knowledge of its inferior hardware and confusing DRM policies may bring that to a grinding halt.

[MultiConsoleGamer]

All this bickering over Amazon.

Most gamers still buy consoles from brick & mortar stores.

[surgency]

Assuming you're not pulling this statement out of your ass, do you have a legit source showing this as a fact?

[Narutone66]

Too bad those brick and mortar stores are not supported by MS used games policy.

[Foxgod]

There will be authenticated brick and mortar stores to resell your games.

[Narutone66]

Highly unlikely, as only big companies like Gamestop or Gamefly will be authenticated, smaller ones like Mom and Pop's may not be, but that remains to be seen.

[S2Killinit]

Loving the anticipation. I can't wait for the PS4. As painful as it is to wait, its still part of the gaming experience and it adds to the excitement of being a gamer.

[SpinalRemains]

Kinect keeps ordering more.

He's a sneaky bastard.

[Supermax]

The majority of console purchases will be made this holiday season right before Christmas when kids bring there parents into walmart s and targets and best buys when the parents see the consoles side by side wich one do you think they will buy,my money is on the cheaper system and don't count out wii u I'm expecting big sales once the new Mario and pikman come out

[erngoods]

kinect fails, no more xbox; internet goes down, no more xbox; traveling abroad and your country isnt supported, no more xbox; dont wanna subscribe to xbl, no more xbox; soldier in the U.S. Armed Forces, no xbox period. Exact response from xbox to our military, "buy a 360". GTFOH