PS4 Components Reportedly Start Shipping in June - One Million Units Per Month

The upstream supply chain reportedly has already started shipping orders for the PlayStation 4 (PS4) in June, and volumes may reach one million units per month by September for the year-end holidays. Meanwhile, volume shipments for Microsoft's Xbox One are expected to start in the third quarter, according to sources from the upstream supply chain.

[US8F]

So wait there is something I don't get. Didn't developers say that specs are not finalized, How is it possible to ship those systems then? We still don't know the exact GPU used.

So the systems are available now and are basically just waiting for sony's green light, interesting

[Arai]

Aesthetics mainly at this point and legal protection.
As for the GPU we won't know until the system is released or someone leaking such information that works at the assembly plant.

In-production sounds about right, October/November release is happening.
They'll try and 1-up Microsoft and get the system out before Black Friday, that much I'm sure of.

[US8F]

Appreciate you taking the time to answer Arai!

Cheers

[abzdine]

as i said in another news, Sony are gonna surprise the world and announce the PS4 for September or early October!

Greatnes awaits
4>1

[mistertwoturbo]

I'm pretty certain it will come out before Black Friday.

[Sitdown]

I say the 1st of November which is a Friday......and they can do a whole "what are you thankful for" campaign with various Sony characters saying what they are thankful followed by a pan from inside the console where the characters live out to a gamer holding the console saying I am thankful for all of you. Cut to a black screen with the slogan... Greatness Awaits.

[BLAKHOODe]

I'm banking on the first or second week of November since Call Of Duty: Ghost comes out November 5 and it's suppose to be available "Day 1" on the PS4.

[wastedcells]

It should launch on the 5th with COD. I'm not interested in COD but it would be a smart move.

[3-4-5]

They will have their own day + black friday and will sell many more that way.

[Narutone66]

The components are already available as the article reported. If I'm not mistaken, Pegatron is also one of the OEM for Sony PS4.

[doctorstrange]

I do hope it's true as it sounds they're well prepared. But - http://techland.time.com/20...

[nirwanda]

@3-4-5
If they launch early november there probably won't be any left for black friday.

[ramiuk1]

a few friends at retail i know have it down on there system as nov 1st in uk

[SynGamer]

Assuming Sony can actually release the PS4 in early October, it would make perfect sense. Release the console October 1st (Tuesday), it sells millions within the first week/month. BUT then Black Friday comes up about 1.5 months later, just as hype may be dying down for the PS4 launch. The Xbox One will be launching sometime in November which would give Sony plenty of time to build up a new campaign just in time for Black Friday, reigniting sales.

This is assuming as well that sales even die down after the PS4 launches.

[NeloAnjelo]

Agreed! Before black Friday is a big Deal.

[famoussasjohn]

Mother of God if it releases before Black Friday. Think of the bundle deals then! If they are capable of doing so, they're going for the throat on this one.

[miyamoto]

16 million units this holiday 2013 is very feasible!

https://www.google.ca/webhp...

everyone I know who has a PS3 is excited.

http://blog.mainstreethost....

[solidt12]

I heard it is coming out on Nov 5th, but I have also heard this from several people in the industry and that they are also considering moving the day up to Oct 29th to launch with Battlefield 4 as an option.

[BISHOP-BRASIL]

Not trying to rain on anyone's parade, but they said it would release on "Holidays" 2013. Well, as far as I know, "Holidays" range from Thanks Giving (late november) to New's Yer Day (1st day of next yer, but as it's 2013, the time gap would end by December 31), this pretty much rule out October and Spetember.

On the bright side, the earliest possible date is Black Friday... Imagine how crazy wouldn't be releasing PS4 on Black Friday!

[HammadTheBeast]

I think specs finalized means how much of the ram is used for os, or the processor type etc.

[fr0sty]

The GPU was leaked to be a Radeon 7000 series GPU.

Sony's official specs put it at 1.84 teraflops, which agrees with the above leak.

The GPU is pretty much a known quantity at this point.

"Sony has confirmed the actual performance of the PlayStation 4's GPU as 1.84 TFLOPS. Sony claims the GPU features 18 compute units, which if this is GCN based we'd be looking at 1152 SPs and 72 texture units." - Anandtech

There are also a number of customizations, for instance:

"The original AMD GCN architecture allowed for one source of graphics commands, and two sources of compute commands. For PS4, we’ve worked with AMD to increase the limit to 64 sources of compute commands — the idea is if you have some asynchronous compute you want to perform, you put commands in one of these 64 queues, and then there are multiple levels of arbitration in the hardware to determine what runs, how it runs, and when it runs, alongside the graphics that’s in the system." - Mark Cerny

[Blackdeath_663]

ps4 gpu is confirmed to have 18 compute units and is capable of 1.84 teraflops not sure what else you want to know about the GPU

@US8F
somewhere between HD7850-HD7870 arguably the best price per performance cards out there at least they were last i checked. which would usually power about a mid-to high end pc. (high if you crossfire them)

[US8F]

Comparison to a video card to see the capabilities. Out of curiosity more than anything really.

[NameRemoved0017]

By the time the ps4 comes out amd will be on the 9000 series which the flagship 9970 is rumored to have 4000 cores and 6GB Vram, that is what the consoles will be up against.

[US8F]

@Blackdeath

+ bubble, Thanks a lot.

I know that it cannot be compared directly because of different requirements between PC and a Console do to optimization but it is interesting to see what kind of Card we are stuck with for the next decade and how efficient it is.

What the heck, I'm feeling curious still,lol. The PS3, which card can it be compared to?. It is really impressive that some games really look good on it after 8 years

[BitbyDeath]

@hdshatter,

But it'll likely take til the PS5 arrives before devs start utilizing that type of hardware in games.

[badz149]

7 years, not 8 but the GPU inside might be 8 years old design seeing as it's equivalent, the GF7800 was released in November 2005.

still mind boggling though as I swear a pc 7 years ago with GF7800 can only dream to run games like the PS3's GoW, Uncharted and TLoU.

consoles are designed with high optimization, so, like the PS3, the PS4 will have long legs too in providing gorgeous looking games 5 years from now.

[US8F]

+bubble Badz

Thank you

[Ju]

PS4 is done. They showed the case and all. That was a final version. With that goes that you know the board layout and what's more the cooling system. Based on that the full PCB must be specified and verified at that stage. If MS hasn't started yet, they are indeed behind.

Oh, well, if there's some truth to that, it is indeed full machines. Could be an early launch, indeed.

[moparful99]

I bet sony spent the time between the XBONE reveal and E3 to nail down the design and start manufacturing.. Knowing what the competition had and realizing they were ahead spec wise they could take advantage of that time and start getting enough units built for the launch..

[Angeljuice]

November 26 was leaked!!!

[ElementX]

The official PS4 specs were released at E3. MS hasn't released their official specs, however.

[Jazz4108]

Ps4 is being maufactured by foxconn the chinise factory that has been on the news over and over for employees being overworked striking and shoddy work to do overtime requjrement. Not trolling just the truth please look it up its all over the web.

[a08andan]

Well it sounds like they have started the shipping of some parts of the PS4, not the actual console. Which to me sounds good! Means that they start in time!

[rbluetank]

I was thinking Sony would release the ps4 in oct. I just can not wait to get my hands on ps4. I hope they sneak in a unannounced AAA title at launch...

[Arai]

AC: Black Flag and Battlefield 4 will be released on October 29th, with CoD: Ghosts on November 5th, followed by Watch Dogs on November 19th.

Those are the biggest titles per year, enough reason for the console to be out late October or early November.

IIRC games are released on Tuesdays in the US, for Europe it's Fridays. October 29th is a Tuesday.

[xPhearR3dx]

For the most part you're correct. The Last of Us & Skyrim for example launched on a Friday here in the US. I believe the Wii U launched on a Sunday. When it comes to hardware, the days may vary.

[extermin8or]

Hardware varies and I can't work it out based on launch title games either I mean BF4, AC4 and watch dogs are ALL launch day titles yet some release end of october and other releases mid november- I can only assume watch dogs must be out a week or two earlier on PS4 then as COD isn't launch day implying it releases before COD does...

[Livecustoms]

So your saying i could potentially find a playstation lorry and rob it and find Ps4 !?!??!?!? Damn anybody up for helping me with a job... ?

[CaptainFaisal]

lets do this!

[Prcko]

say time and place...

[KwietStorm_BLM]

I'd wait for both Payday 2 and GTA V before finalizing your plans. Always good to see the potential faults beforehand.

[Livecustoms]

haha True !

[killacal13]

I just wonder how many units will be sold by year"s end, I'm gonna guess around 7 million. Probably more.

[daggertoes83]

could be more than we all think now that some xbox fans are jumping ship

[Livecustoms]

I used to be an Xbox Fanboy untill i realised microsoft are pricks.... (Not a skyrim quote or anything..)

[Boody-Bandit]

I was an Xbox fan until all the dreaded rumors became a reality May 21st, confirmed restrictions on June 6th, the coffin lid closed and nailed shut on June 10th ($499), then the hole dug and filled in with Don Mattricks interview on June 11th.

I'm off the MS bandwagon and headed for the land of Sony.

[AhmadCentral]

I'd say more around 5-6m with at least 8-9m by march 31st 2014.

If my estimate comes true that's going to be Sony's biggest launch yet which is amazing.

PS2 sold 10.6m in it's first year. PS4 might sell 10m in it's first 6/7 months.

[Game4life]

as long as the flow of games coming out is steady, I think it will happen. Though I think it will be like 6 to 7 million max right now ending march

[AhmadCentral]

If they're starting production now i really wouldn't be surprised if they hit 8m by march 31st. (produced, not sold to customers)

[Gameratheart]

Ps4 has the potential to sell loads... But, lets not get overly excited... It may well sell 10+ million in the first year, but remember, most consoles don't start selling their best until 2-3 years in. I was an x-Xbox fan... I was a diehard fanboy... But ms blew it, so I already preordered a ps4... Ms seems arrogant, and cocky... They remind me if Sony when the ps3 was coming out.. The whole "get a second job to buy it" thing with its over blown price tag... Now ms is saying, if you want offline, there's an xbox360.... No stupid, there's a ps4!! Lol, Sony will outsell ms, by a large margin, but lets not start talking crazy numbers.... But hey! I hope it does!

[Ju]

7M PS4s will probably not be possible. 1M/month is quite a number. If they ramp up to a full 1M/month in Sept they will have a max of 4 (maybe 5M) units available this year.

[Martywren]

And so it begins, I cant wait.

[TheTwelve]

Looks like we won't have to wait long.

[PositiveEmotions]

Thank god im saved lol ps4 here i come!!

[CaptainFaisal]

SONY want to release at least 7 million consoles but their goal is 13 million by the end of the year, however i hope that the increase in production speed does not affect the quality of the consoles!

[hkgamer]

They will need to be carfeul with they strategy though. Pushing out too many consoles at one time could be a bad move strategically. Consoles need to be out of stock to create buzz, too much stock can take away some media attention and some people will not find the urge to buy it if they know that they can probably buy it anytime they like.

With low stock every so often they could potentially get someone who was unsure if they wanted one to quickly purchasing one just in case there is no stock left.

[DJ]

I agree with you HK that having too much stock can lead to bad press, but based on the pre-launch hype and the huge demand for PS4...they should sell as many consoles as possible.

This launch is starting to resemble the battle between Blu-ray and HD-DVD. If Sony can manage to get a 2:1 sales advantage during the first year, they'll be able to lure even more developers and put a stop to certain Xbox exclusives. Such as Titan Fall or Ryse.

[CaptainFaisal]

Hope so :) i really want too see all the Xbox One games on PS4 like TitanFall, Ryse, Sunset OverDrive, Dead Rising 3, plant vs zombies that would be awesome! i know you guys want that to ! lets hope their all time exclusives and not permanent!

[gazgriff2k12]

I believe titanfall 1 or 2 will come to ps4 anyway its published by EA anybody remember mass effect 1 never coming to ps3. The rest of the games exclusive to xbox 1 looked meh

[dc1]

Titan Fall is confirmed to be a 1 year timed exclusive for the Xbone ; so yeah..its coming to the PS4 to join a host of other third party titles and pure console exclusives.

[Williamson]

Wasn't a fan of the ps4 design when it was first unveiled, but it just looks so good now. A silver/ white color would be badass at launch.

[Talamak]

Silver all the way, I at least hope to bag a silver DS4 controller at launch

[hkgamer]

Silver looks tacky after a while. I regret purchasing a silver PS2 after my launch PS2 died on me.

Not to say you won't like your Silver PS though.

[elhebbo16]

a lower price makes everything look good.

[jay2]

Yep, it's happening then :D

[CaulkSlap]

This just means they're working out the supply chain for internal components and stockpiling them. Good to get an early start to be ready for when mass assembly of the final units begins in a few months. Worst thing that can happen is an unanticipated bottleneck in one component.

[mikeyphi]

M$ has gotta b sh*ttin bricks right about now...they're gonna beat them to launch with a lower price point and no restrictions...some heads are gonna roll in Redmond, Washington

[jmc8888]

Well that will help with Bill Gates depopulation agenda.

[ger2396]

Sony will definitely try to ship in early October. Just in time for battlefield 4 and cod.

[Polysix]

Good. I'm waiting Sony. Take my money please.

[BelieveinGhosts]

Sony better delay it or else a lot of kids are gonna be crying when their Brand New PS4 keeps freezing and crashing like we saw during e3

[carmelo43]

What game was freezing bro, you mean the beta lol, beta not full game you know the difference when a game and or system freezes I don't think you do

[BelieveinGhosts]

Assassins Creed Black Flag, Destiny, The Evil Within and Knack all suffered from freezing, crashing or both. I had a PS3, so I have experienced this before on a Sony console.

[carmelo43]

None of those games are even finished all those games u wen were beta mode, the system itself didn't freeze, I don't have to buy a launch ps4 I know I am alone with 999999999 other people you can just buy a xb1 which is in fact having hardware problems as we speak lol

[BelieveinGhosts]

At this stage of development. None of those launch tiles of PS4 are in Beta. They are all either Alpha or Pre-Alpha.

[BelieveinGhosts]

Another thing to add, one of Xbox Ones games also crashed and it was LocoCycle. Complicated technology can encounter problems, lets hope it is fixed by launch

[nosferatuzodd]

Indeed and it was the stream they were streaming the game from u stream
That's why it was crashing its a Internet problem not the ps4
And what about Xbox playing games off a high end nvidia card something that's not in there console lol

[hkgamer]

We all know that most developers/publishers will not delay their games release date. Most of them just prefer to release it and then patch it afterwards. Works out to be alot cheaper that way.

[BelieveinGhosts]

You are right, If there is a problem hopefully it is a soft ware issue and not a hard ware issue. We don't need any red Ring or yellow Light Fiasco again

[Sharius]

or MS should beware of the backlash if xbone refuse to launch the battlefield 4 because it get boner and think evey copy it the used game

[sway_z]

8GB GDDR5 Ram, and the GPU is Radeon 7850M equivalent, but customized for Sony requirements I think, respectable....PS4 is ready!!

[mochachino]

I'd love for September but seeing how GTA5 is coming out then I'm guessing earliest late October.

[WeAreLegion]

I'm not sure that's enough systems to meet demand. Haha. I have mine pre-ordered, luckily.

[fr3d0]

M$ getting annihilated on all fronts....this is an absolute slaughter...

Put $50 down on my PS4 preorder yesterday.

[Akuma2K]

I hope sony meets the demand but seeing how they pimped slapped microsoft at E3 it looks to be an uphill battle, i'm glad pre-ordered my PS4 from gamestop last week.

One thing is for sure, Xmas shopping is looking good for sony and the PS4 right now.

[S2Killinit]

how do we know whether Sony and microsoft have started production. I ask because I want to know whether it is too late to change any of the specs, since the way it stands xbox has no chance of matching PS4's power output.

[DJ]

The specs were finalized months ago. The PS4 retail units are ready for full production, but Xbox One needs a few more months apparently. It's the main reason there were so few Xbox One development kits at E3. They're in short supply.

[jmc8888]

If they were to switch GPU's or CPU's, they'd have to rework all the final end customizations as well.

In other words, Xbox One is stuck with an overheating 1.2 TFlop $60-80 (in late 2013) PC graphics card that they may have to downclock.

It also means to keep a keen eye out for RROD or other failures.

Seems like MS still hasn't learned how to make working consoles yet.

If they were to redo everything, you'd be looking at next summer at the earliest for release.

As is it would not surprise me to see them not make their launch date. I can even see it pushed back until early 2014 AS IS! Like Jan or Feb.

M$ is so fucked it's unreal.

[Thomaticus]

If you release a system on Black Friday the world will end....in chaos!

[DivineAssault]

Cant wait to get mine!!

[DJ]

What this means is that, as the rumors suggested 3 months ago, the PS4 is ahead of the Xbox one's manufacturing schedule. Sony will most likely stockpile 3~4 million consoles ahead of launch in October. Microsoft will be lucky to have 1.5 million consoles by their launch in November.

[fooltheman]

Microsoft has pushed the release to an earlier date in response to ps4

[CaptainFaisal]

its comming out on my B-DAY :)

[Ukdude]

Gotta say that im guessing for Sony to officially start production from about the start of August,say 4-6 weeks preparation from now with logistics/orders etc.
Everyone knows 1 million is the max units that can be made per month.
August-500k units (they would never go full out until everything is running smoothly)
Sept-Nov-3 Million units (remember-prev its been stated that once a console is made it takes roughly 2 weeks to get in the stores)
So taking that into account if the console launches on 1st Nov then I expect a max 2-25 million units available.
If launched late Nov then 2.5-2.75 million units.
Get ya pre-orders in people!

[jmc8888]

I wish someone would have asked at E3 when these consoles were going into production.

Microsoft is saying 3rd quarter? That's july-august-september.

I wouldn't be surprised if they don't make that deadline.

PS4 is on track, Xbox One is stuck offroad in a ditch.

[dantendo]

If history repeats itself yet again, there will never be enough PS4's to keep up with demand for the first 6 months..

PS2 did it
PS3 did it

PS4 will as well.. Its a simple matter of factory capabilities.. By the time engineering is done and marketing says "announce announce announce." The manufacturing guys are under the gun... The market does not allow for a buffer room to stock pile come release day

[FullMetalTech]

Good to hear. They already have the HDD and most of the specs already to go into production. They launched PS3 in Nov in US so i would think theyd go the same route and move some more units before the holiday rush.

[isyourhouseonfire]

I can appreciate that Sony wants to be in a position to battle Microsoft as effectively as possible but after seeing the debacle with the PS3 I wish they would just slow down and think first. They're going up against one of the world's most well-oiled machines - Microsoft - in the area of development as well as distribution. Slow down and think first.

[reko]

"well-oiled machines"? say what? lol

[H3ADWOUND81]

Isyouoncrack?

[H3ADWOUND81]

Rockstar putting GTA V release date back 4 months is beginning to make more & more sense, ps4 for 17th September maybe? I'm holding out for my ps4 GTA V bundle (of joy)...

[Chase51]

I really hope that's true I want mine soo bad I can't wait!

[mrmarx]

just have my parts assembled and ready to be picked up on release day :)oh and you can keep the xbox parts i won't be needing them

[solinox]

I still think this launches in October. Expect a TGS announcement.