12 reasons why you shouldn’t get carried away by PS4 hype

Opinion piece on why we shouldn't write off the Xbox One too soon.

[Neoninja]

Oh boy this is gonna start some mess.
Didn't know that about the Sony's licensing agreement.

Edit* By didn't know, I mean how its similar to others which I guess should be expected.
By now though people have made up their minds on what their getting.

[aceitman]

This article is a joke right. Someone tell me it's a joke, someone trying to justify xboxones bad features and trying to make it match Sonya's somehow. Really. What a joke, just sad.

[blackbeld]

Doesn't matter.

Still everybody knows it already. DRM is crap.

Only rich folks that want attention from the government will buy the XBone.

[scofios]

Stop trying and give it a rest .

@Fox.
I also remember when the M$ fanboys where crying atleast the 360 is cheaper because M$ didn't force us with Blu ray and WIFI .
Well now how does it feel to pay 100$ more because M$ froces you with a spy cam .

[Foxgod]

@blackbelt

I remember when the ps3 was just out, sony fanboys where calling xbox fans poor, because they bought the cheaper console.

Now all of a sudden you people insult xbox fans for being rich?

[komp]

Xbox forum poll

http://forums.xbox.com/xbox...

Even the forum fanbase have revolted.

[WarThunder]

I can't believe some people are defending this joke of a company MS

[Sitdown]

Wow.....don't know when it happened, but apparently I am now rich and want attention from the government. Funny how that happened.... I was just trying to play the next Halo, but now financially I am set for life. Anybody else want to join me on my yacht?

[HammadTheBeast]

"Destiny requires a constant connection too"

Gee, I dunno, what part of MMO did I miss out?

"You don't own your games because the terms and conditions prohibit selling games on PS3"

And that's why the Playstation man walked on stage and said "You will be able to sell used games".

You know what f*** it. I'm done with this ******* "leetgamers blog". Please get this **** off this site.

[DragonKnight]

I love these list items. Makes it a much more organized deconstruction of the fallacies present in the article.

1. Xbox One DOES let you trade games in.

Well, I was going to say something about this but I don't have to since the article already mentioned the huge problem with it.

"You can still buy, sell and trade second-hand boxed games as usual, but it’ll be up to publishers."

And

"Trade-ins can only be made at ‘participating retailers’."

'nuff said.

2. PS4 may require an online connection too

"We’re not saying that Xbox One requiring users to have access to the internet once every 24 hours is a good thing, but we are asking – is it really that bad?"

Yes, it is a bad thing. There is no good in a feature that bricks your ability to play games if you miss a check in. That's ridiculous.

"When Sony said during its E3 2013 conference that the PS4 wouldn’t require at least one online check-in every 24 hours, or a constant internet connection, it meant so for its first-party games and the console itself."

No it didn't. It meant that the hardware wasn't designed to force a connection. The Xbox One's check in feature is built into the hardware.

"Third-party publishers are free to come up with their own Digital Rights Management (DRM) for PS4."

They can do that already on the PS3. Where are those check-ins again?

"So the PS4 system doesn’t require the internet to work, but certain games will."

Proof?

"Do you think you own your PS3 games? Will you truly ‘own’ that copy of Killzone on your PlayStation 4? Think again."

Yes. Sony flat out said you do. You link the EULA but fail at understanding it. Sony own the RIGHTS to the product. This grants them the right to duplicate it and dictate who can financially benefit the intellectual property. That ISN'T the same as having the right to override first sale doctrine.

"Another part states: “You may not resell Game Software unless expressly authorised by Sony Computer Entertainment Europe. Resale and rental are prohibited unless expressly authorised by SCEE.”

And yet their own executives just flat out said you can at E3 without restriction. Did MS' Execs do so?

5. The controller

Complete subjectivity and irrelevant.

6. Price

More subjectivity. And idiocy, but still subjectivity.

7. The games

Read the previous two points.

8. The features

Let's just skip that Gaikai will allow for PS3 backwards compatibility shall we? No, we don't look like we're trying to sell the Xbox One at all by skipping that. /s

9. Xbox will be out earlier (probably)

Probably destroys this. Why bother adding this when you have no idea. Amazon lists PS4's launch as November 30th, what is Xbox One's?

10. Getting DLC first

"From Call of Duty to Skyrim and Grand Theft Auto, Xbox 360 still offers new downloadable content to its users months before PS3 players. You can expect this to continue on Xbox One.

Owning a PS4 and having to wait several months for the next add-on pack in COD: Ghosts or other triple-A blockbuster? That’s not for us, thanks."

No proof at all. FUD.

11. Big Brother is not watching you

BAHAHAHAHA! Microsoft is part of PRISM and Kinect requires filtering technology. 'nuff said.

12. It’s all subject to change, anyway

Which means it can get worse.

[360degrees]

Listen my fellow gamers this is truly set to be a fantastic next generation of gaming consoles in regards to both innovation and gaming titles. Currently it would appear that playstation's main advantage would rest specifically in its price point, while the Xbox One encompasses all other advantages in the fields of features and exclusive gaming titles. However, specifically referencing the above titles notion of "hype" let us see what the consumer truly prefers with their actual monetary purchases; a lower priced console, or innovative seamless features and a fantastic gaming experience.

[DragonKnight]

@360degrees: "Currently it would appear that playstation's main advantage would rest specifically in its price point, while the Xbox One encompasses all other advantages in the fields of features and exclusive gaming titles."

[Diver]

A "Leet" game what? Thas right its a cheap blog. Also think about the person that submitted this. Thas desperate.

[pixelsword]

@ Foxgo:

Not for being rich, but for being foolish.

Also for the article:

"So the PS4 system doesn’t require the internet to work, but certain games will."

True: they're called online-only games.

Without proof your points look stupid as well.

[Gorilla_Killa_X]

I truly enjoy how they say at the beginning that they own both XBox360 and PS3 so have no bias toward either and then go on to try and talk up Xbox One while downplaying PS4. No bias at all. HA!

[rainslacker]

Guess I'll take a shot at it too DragonKnight.:)

1. It's been said it's up to the publishers for Xbox, which I think is now a good thing, because pubs are unlikely to implement this crap. However the participating retailers is unsettling. The fact Sony said explicitly that they will not allow publishers to restrict 2nd hand trade is a big point the author conveniently left out.

2. Nope, explicitly stated at the conference that PS4 will never have to connect online...even had a big ass slide for it. Online games or features will require a internet connection obviously.

3. Can't predict problems. True, but I'd put my faith in Sony over MS any day when it comes to hardware. Sorry but most MS hardware is complete and utter crap, even if you disregard the Xbox 360 RROD fiasco.

4. Yep. Will refer you to this comment I posted elsewhere. Also what dragon says is pretty accurate.
http://n4g.com/news/1282102...

5. Completely subjective. I personally love the DS controllers.

6. Price: I'd rather not pay an extra $100 for Kinect, since I don't really care for Kinect. MS didn't even show anything at their E3 conference to sell the Kinect in any way. If anything it was all about smart glass. But to each their own. PS+/Live fee is a wash, but I will say that PS+ is an incredible value...although the new paid online does kind of suck.

7. Games: Completely subjective. I personally have never been disappointed with Sony in the number of games they release since the PS1, nor am I disappointed in their quality

8. Don't care about most of those features. Sony also has a game DVR which allows you to upload. "Still better than PSN". Again subjective.

9. Care to inform us on the actual release dates? That would get you more hits over this fan boy tripe.

10. Exclusive/Early DLC: seemed Sony mentioned quite a bit of this in their conference. Guess it's subjective if you care about that stuff. I personally rarely buy DLC.

11. Kinect "spying" on you. I tend to agree, it's likely not going to do that. Given recent reports though you can't blame people for being concerned. Still not sure how Kinect spying on you has any effect on the PS4 hype though.

12. "It's all subject to change" Yep. MS made that abundantly clear in their "clarification" of these issues gamers have with them. Given the current status, those possible changes are worrying. Current hype isn't about what PS4 might do one day in this regard, but what it can do now. I also think it would be really stupid for Sony to come out so strongly on these issues, only to change the policy later...particularly since it was never their intention to implement them anyways.

[Kevin ButIer]

TRY harder bro...

[xxBiG_BoSSxx]

I keep seeing people say that the Ones price is not really more expensive because the kinect is bundled with it.

The kinect isn't bundled. It's part of the system. The One doesn't function without it.

If I buy a car, the engine isn't "bundled" with it. When I buy a TV for $1500, I don't think its a great deal because it comes with the screen.

[husomc]

we now know for a fact that none of the gangsters or criminals will be getting an xbox one :D

[gaffyh]

@Sitdown - The next Halo's release date isn't even confirmed, and is probably late 2014 at the EARLIEST. So why would you buy an Xbox One this year? You might as well wait until Halo actually comes out and you will most likely get the console A LOT cheaper.

Sorry if that is too logical, or makes too much sense.

[DARK WITNESS]

12 reasons why you shouldn't.....

1 reason why you should... Consumer friendly!

[dmeador]

I mostly just come on N4Gs comment section to laugh. Its pretty easy to take people on here with a handful of salt when any hint that you are talking about the X1 in a positive way receives a million disagrees, and any comments that talks of what garbage the X1 is (even if its completely untrue) are heaped with praise, haha.

Any time I see any remotely sane conversation about pros/cons/logic behind the next gen I do a double take. Also I'm pretty glad I'm rich too. Apparently a day and a halfs work at minumium wage makes me rich. Lucky me! Cant wait till Obama can watch me play Rsye in the nude

[Ragthorn]

@blackbeld
I know this might hurt the playstation community but PS4 is not completely DRM-free.

http://www.polygon.com/2013...

[defyenz]

Dude, who is sonya? Lol

[solidjun5]

I'm starting to think FoxGod or MikeMyers wrote this.

[s8anicslayer]

This argument is not valid!

[Retroman]

12 reasons why you shouldn’t get carried away by PS4 hype

REALLY?? MS paying off editors to down grade ps4 already? this surely not going to stop ps4 momentum.
as neoninja stated "by now people have their mind made-up on what they are getting" (PS4)
HEY, MS GO RE-DESIGN your lame ass console and stop biting SONY backside.

[nosferatuzodd]

no not you the author, come on man everything you say is true I'm just confirming it man sorry if i didn't make my self clear

[BattleTorn]

Is that all you Sony fans EVER have to say about those who support MS?
That MS must be paying for it...

Not trying to defend the article, but you make Sony fans look bad..

[nosferatuzodd]

these Xbox fantards are really catching after straws nothing this guys says is fact just mambo jumbo that he hope is true wow

[Retroman]

im sure your not talking about me?? nosferat??

im pro SONY

[greenlantern2814]

i personally love how they keep saying the xb1 is better than ps4. on what standers they are judging that idk since the ps4 is more powerful, cheaper, more developer friendly and offers cloud as well. and the xb1 gives you foolish restrictions and the same features you can get on any smart tv and a higher price which say what every they want now that was used to bash us with ps3 so turn about as fair play.

[fermcr]

I'm not buying any console at launch. If a buy a console it will probably be a PS4 when Infamous launches (Q1 2014). By then we will know all the kinks about next gen consoles. I'm in no rush.

[Artificial_Ignorance]

Same here. I'm in no rush to buy a PS4 (no way in hell I'll ever get an Xbox One). I'm going to wait and see if Destiny releases for PC before I consider purchasing the PS4. I have a high-end PC, and would rather play games on it. I can see myself eventually buying a PS4 though (once exclusives that I really, really care about like UC4 or something come out).

[Cuzzo63]

DAMN IT! I feel bad for clicking on the link. Smh

[callahan09]

Form the article: "Third-party publishers are free to come up with their own Digital Rights Management (DRM) for PS4. For example, Activision’s Destiny requires a constant internet connection. So the PS4 system doesn’t require the internet to work, but certain games will."

That's an awful argument. The game is an online only multiplayer game! That's why it requires the Internet, not because of DRM! Good god how stupid can they be!

[showtimefolks]

you can feed this crap to the US market but don't expect people to believe any of this in Europe or japan or for that matter the rest of the world

no matter how the xbox defense force puts it, MS screed up now instead of defending them come join the darkside we have cookies

if the xbox360 couldn't hold back the ps3 with lower price point,better online structure at launch and more games than what makes anyone think now xbox one will do any better. Its destined to be in the 3rd place this gen no matter the spin MS or its fanbase will put on

I am tired of this crap, whenever sony or Nintendo does something right all the xbots have to come to an amercan company's defense.

MS this is called gaming business or maybe you wanted to be in the cable business instead

xbox one, one machine to rule them all, OH NOT SO MUCH

so you need a cable box plugged in so that's one cable

you can't switch the harddrive something sony allowed this gen so one more cable from external hard drive

its not a DVR so another box

so its not one machine, its just one big black box covered by may other smaller black boxes

[BallsEye]

Link doesn't work, anyone can re-link or paste the article if it's not too big? Thanks!

[MYSTERIO360]

There you go

http://www.leetgamesblog.co...

[MYSTERIO360]

1.This is true, but its very unlikely that publishers will except free trading and selling of their games, especially when MS has already built an infrastructure that caters for it.
2.True, but this only applies to MMO games not hardware which is whats applicable today. MS have built a very restrictive console which requires an internet connection just to even be able to play it OFFLINE.
3.I totally agree with this point, but it is worth remembering that Sony operated on a FREE service which meant they had to limit their costs. With the PS4 paying model they will be able to provide a much more secure service with dedicated fast servers. Sony aren’t stupid and have probably learnt from their mistakes.
4. Im on the fence with this one, Sony have stated numerous times PUBLICLY that gamers will own their games outright and do with it as they want. They have also built most of their advertising campaign around this fact. I personally don’t see Sony going back on this
5.This is personal preference
6.The PS4 + camera is still cheaper
7.Although MS lineup seems more enticing Sony did say that they will launch their PS4 with 20 Excl within the first year.
8.This is up to preference again but PS4 does have more features then whats listed.
9.This is pure speculation at this point
10.Sony showed more Excl content plus PS+ its likely they will have more funds to push forward more DLC.
11. Thats funny
12. Totally agree

[Bobby Kotex]

I see 12 reasons suckers clicked on that click whoring blog.

[adorie]

1 reason to get carried away with the PS4 hype... 1.) It's PlayStation 4.

[ziggurcat]

@neoninja:

"Didn't know that about the Sony's licensing agreement."

well, there's a little disclaimer right before the article even begins:

"UPDATE: This is an opinion article – do not read on if you’re expecting a fact-based news-style piece."

so...

and the EULA just talks about sony having the ownership rights to the IP, which *all* EULAs state, it has nothing to do with whether you lawfully own the physical copy of the product you've purchased. the author simply doesn't understand what the EULA is saying, and tries to spin it as though you don't own anything you buy from sony.

[Mounce]

Well, looky, they had to even update the article:

UPDATE: This is an opinion article – do not read on if you’re expecting a fact-based news-style piece.

do not read on if you’re expecting a fact-based news-style piece

[b]fact-based[/b](I wish I could Bold)

Case closed - They admit it's Emotive, Opinionated bullshit with Zero Factual statements. Because we know 'Opinion pieces' like these contain illogical declarations for Hits more than anything else.

[duplissi]

you do realize that technically you dont own any music/movies/games that you have purchased?

all media has had that "licencing" approach to purchases for more than a decade.

[TheLyonKing]

Sonys licensing policy is all software just incase they wouldn't implement it and te set up is the same as the ps3.

Damn fear mongerers.

[Mikelarry]

another MS RM. rather than spreading bull just go and fix your console

[Majin-vegeta]

Early DLC??lol it sure as hell didnt help M$ this gen it sure as hell wont help them next gen.

[KUV1977]

Yeah plus I don't get how 'early DLC' is somehow better than 'DLC only abailable on Playstation' as in Assassin's Creed or Batman. Not that I would weigh those to heavy but I believe later is better than never, but then again the whole list is kind of weired and, for lack of better term, wrong.

[ltachiUchiha]

Exactly & plus sony knows that & is why im glad they have a strong relationship with ubisoft, who have tons of games im interested in like watch dogs, the division, assassins creed & splinter cell which most likely all of them will have exclusive dlc to the ps4. Not sure about splinter but u can count in all ubisofts new projects plus destiny from bungie which are all heavy hitters from 3rd party studios.

[lucaskeller1]

I remember when they payed 60 million us dollars for the lost and the damn to come out early, killzone 2's budget was only 40mill and that was a really expensive game to make! They need to learn where to invest their money better

[jessupj]

Exactly.

It doesn't entice me to buy an xbone at all.

All it does is piss me off that ms throws money around to impede on DLC availability on sony consoles.

They pay money to stop content from coming to their competitors consoles. I just think there's better ways to entice people to buy a console.

The difference between sony is that they invest in developers to create extra content.

[Moonman]

FUD

Nothing to see here.

[Booyah]

i always wanted to know what FUD meant...

[Moonman]

Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. :)

[Booyah]

ahah thanx

[Jac5al]

The position of the stick argument on the dualshock is so played out. How does the asymmetrical layout of the sticks on the xbox controller lead to more faster paced online gameplay??? I don't get that...

[MonkeyNinja]

I've been wondering the same thing for years now.

[kneon]

You don't get it because there is no logicial reason for it being better. If swapping the left analog and dpad is better then why are the right analog and buttons not swapped? Perhaps Xbox fans have asymmetrical hands.

I often hear the complaint about the loose sticks, yes they are loose and therefore require more skill to use, but they are more responsive. So they are hard for noobs to use but are better once you learn to use them.

[IAMERROR]

Did you really just say that the Playstation analog sticks take skill? I'm literally laughing right now

None of them take skill, this is just fanboyism

[kneon]

Sorry to burst your delusion bubble but yes tighter sticks are easier to use. The trade off is that they are less responsive.

The looser sticks must be harder to use otherwise there wouldn't be so many xbox users whining about them. And if they are harder to use then by definition they take more skill.

[sAVAge_bEaST]

DS4 has been completely redesigned ,.. with help from bungie..(fanboy halo)..

con-caved tighter sticks, springy and longer triggers. touch pad with dual click., share button.., heavier, longer, w/ better rumble..., gyro. and blue-tooth no latency with inner battery.

[RiPPn]

In the GiantBomb daily podcasts they were talking about the controllers and actual said the new Xbox controller took a step back siting squishier triggers, clicking shoulder buttons and an uncomfortable agronomic curve. They also said the PS4 controller has made huge improvements and the really liked the controller.

If true this is just another positive for Sony.

[sAVAge_bEaST]

DS4 has been completely redesigned ,.. with help from bungie..(fanboy halo)..

super-ergonomic

con-caved tighter sticks, springy and longer triggers. touch pad with dual click., share button.., heavier, longer, w/ better rumble..., gyro. and blue-tooth no latency with inner battery.
standard 3.5 headphone jack and speaker on deck.

http://i1356.photobucket.co...

[Benjaminkno]

This is all desperate damage control.

[shutUpAndTakeMyMoney]

Cuz u want drm??

[DivineAssault]

Haters gonna hate..

[Chapter11]

The logic of this article seems to be "another reason, if Hitler were alive, he would have bought a PS4 so its bad"

[HammadTheBeast]

Lol.

[SpinalRemains]

True.

I saw a YouTube where he was screaming about xbone.

I thought it was Downfall, but then he started talking about next Gen and he even said he's getting a ps4.

[SonicRush15]

Sorry, but there's plenty of reasons for me to get carried away by the hype, and I am okay with that.

[isyourhouseonfire]

As we've already learned, you can cut Sony's hype in half to see what the end product will be like. For Microsoft, you can usually quadruple their hype to see what the end product will be like.

[DxTrixterz]

Wait Sony didn't state what kind of games we will be able to play used no problem did they? It could be that you can play first party games used no problem but they might let publishers put their DRM for third party games. No only online modes but single player could be blocked as well in used third party game. God I sure hope that you can play both first and third party games offline. I'm beginning to panic now,

[NihonjinChick]

Here is something to calm your nerves.

http://www.gamefront.com/so...

[Virtual_Reality]

First Party games won't have online passes on PS4. 3rd Party games may have online passes, that is the whole DRM on PS4 when it comes to used games, just as PS3 and Xbox 360 games.

Is already stated and confirmed.

[DxTrixterz]

Oh that's cool then.

[jdktech2010]

It is literally the exact same thing as this generation with online passes, etc.

[rainslacker]

EA even said they aren't going to re-implement the online pass program in their future games. They said it wasn't worth the customer faith they lost based on the returns they saw.

To further ease your doubt, Ubisoft late last year removed DRM from their PC games because they saw no benefit to using it. On PC it was mostly to stop piracy, and was completely ineffective, only hurting actual paying customers.

Now, consoles themselves have always acted as a sort of passive DRM to piracy. For the most part you had to actively modify them to play pirated games. However it was just like that, and publishers didn't take extra DRM measures to circumvent that(online passes were a response to the used market).

One more thing worth mentioning, most publishers are distancing themselves from MS and their DRM policies. They see what gamers are saying, and they don't want to be any part of it. This bodes well that restrictions will be minimal at best. What we're seeing is more online and multi-device integration in the next gen, and that may be behind a secondary paywall like online pass, but as to what extent, it's hard to say right now.

[gamer2013]

Who are the majority of these publishers exactly that are supposedly distancing themselves from MS as you say? Please provide a list of names.

[rainslacker]

EA, Ubisoft, and Activision are all saying they don't feel these policies are very good for the market. Konami and Capcom haven't really said anything about it. But 3 of the biggest publishers are keeping their distance on the policies. Not saying they won't publish games for the X1, just that they seem to be siding on the consumer side...at least from a PR perspective.

[Virtual_Reality]

Most of the points are not even right and are based in opinions, not facts O_O

[SonicRush15]

"PS4 may require an online connection too

We’re not saying that Xbox One requiring users to have access to the internet once every 24 hours is a good thing, but we are asking – is it really that bad?

Sure, if your internet goes down for more than a day, you’re not going to be happy. But don’t think that the PS4 will be the immediate solution to this problem.

When Sony said during its E3 2013 conference that the PS4 wouldn’t require at least one online check-in every 24 hours, or a constant internet connection, it meant so for its first-party games and the console itself."

That is reason number 2 to no get carried away by the hype.. Are you serious? Sony said it doesn't require an Internet connection to play games. That's it.

What do you guys think about this? lol

[Foxgod]

If it goes down for more then a day, which hasnt happened once to me for the past 5 years.
Il simply use the internet on my mobile to login.

The chance il have to is very small tho.

[zeroskie]

I moved into a new apartment a few months ago and getting the internet set up was a total clusterfuck. Plus our region's internet provider has a monopoly and are total dicks about everything. So yeah, definitely played game offline for a good while. Some of the people in the building are using freaking ATT DSL. That connection can't handle more than one browser tab at a time. If any of them are gamers, I'm betting I know which console they'll choose.

[Foxgod]

If that happens, one flick on a slider on a mobile phone will solve it.

[HammadTheBeast]

Rural areas, countries with lower internet service, and people with just no access to internet (military, mobile, business) are screwed.

It's great that it doesn't affect you (no sarcasm) but for some people the situation is different, and MS's BS about "cloud" and "connected Worlds" isn't swaying anyone.

[PiTCHBLaCK]

@ Foxgod

Quit being so blind, not everyone has a Good service provider or any at all. And my mobile is only 2G speeds. Besides, I shouldn't have to worry about the Internet when I'm gaming.

[Hicken]

Good thing the only person that matters in gaming is you, Foxgod. None of the hundreds of millions of people who don't have internet but still game matter; just as long as you can play, all is well.

[sAVAge_bEaST]

I feel sorry for you Reputation Control types.. Microsoft have given you very little to work with.

[strigoi814]

So which hype are we gonna hop on to?? Microsoft?? Lolz your kidding right?!

[Williamson]

To be honest I don't really care if ps4 sells more than the X1, I played so many great games on the ps3 this gen. The ps3 was so good that I expect the ps4 to be better, so me and others on this site will get the ps4 for that main reason.

[zeroskie]

I still have games to play on the PS3 coming up and backlogged.

[fsfsxii]

Dedicating this summer to complete all of my backlogged games, and then the Last of Us came out, all of my plans were like *POOF*
No seriously, i think thats what i like ost about Sony Playstation, they don't ditch their old system once a new one comes out.

[SephirothX21]

What a complete fanboy article. Doesn't mention future PS4 exclusives tat will come from ND. Doesn't mention the fact that the Xbox One has inferior hardware. The license thing with Sony is out of context. Sure the consumer does not own the software as in having the right to sell the software or license it. But they do own that particular build of the software which is the game. In other words, if you buy Star Wars VII on blu ray, you won't have rights t the Star Ward film franchise but you will own the disc with the movie on it and you can resell that or give it to a friend. I'll take consumer rights and better game performance over a fancier online service any day of the week.

[CPTN MITCHELL]

I have more than that for Xbox one

[karl]

Ill give u one reason

-Because seven months is a long time to wait

[Chase51]

Sounds like major fanboyism to me

[sashimi]

get ready for more of these blogs and such, the closer we get to launch the more that M$ ad/PR money will show lol

[rainslacker]

Sad thing is they don't even have to spend money on these types of articles. There are people who will do it for them completely free.

I don't really care about their decision to buy an X1, but if they're going to try and bring Sony into MS sinking ship, at least do so with well informed articles/blogs that accurately show the differences between the systems.

It is possible to write an article talking up the good and bad points of each system, and still be able to put everything in perspective and show why you may prefer one over the other even if you don't care about all the stuff MS is doing. Hell I could do that now for X1 if I felt it deserved it.

[b_one]

1.‘participating retailers’ - show them to me outside US in Russia, Poland. Every title? Not sure? Point number 1 invalid.

2. invalid. Execs told otherwise.

3. Games run(e3) from PCs with GForces - this predicts problems, months till launch and they dont have devkits? Sure they started developing console in 2010...goooood...

4. UE law apply in Europe...

5, 6. WHAT?! Dude Winners dont use drugs....rly.

Rest is crap....

and LAST, History, past years shows who supports gamers better.

[zeroskie]

worst. article. ever. never visiting this site again.

[mt]

hahaha if you want to laugh at him read his justification about the prize.

"We’d rather pay £429 for the Xbox One rather than PS4′s £349 asking price, for a number of reasons (see them listed in this article), not just for the Xbox One’s controller shape alone (obviously)."

yea right the shape and geometry of the controller that sealed the deal for me.

[Foxgod]

Well, i have to agree with him, i also rather pay 100 more for the XB1, but for Dead rising, Forza and killer instinct on launch.

I really dont wanna miss out on those, not even to mention what is down the pipeline.

[rainslacker]

Why not just buy it later when the price drops and then pick up those games? I mean it's not like they will not be available later.

[fsfsxii]

DR3 belongs to crapcom to expect it to come out for other platforms when it bombs hard,it already bombed lol, its now focusing at the DUDEBRO type of people, lost all of what made it DEADRISING.
Forza is alright, i'd rather have GT instead. KI i can't comment on that because i haven't played a KI game before

[jessupj]

As much as I completely and utterly disagree with foxgod for supporting such a draconian console and suspect he just has blind love for ms instead of genuinely wanting an xbone, I could try for a moment to put myself in his shoes.

If Dark Souls 2 was exclusive to the xbone, I would be tempted to get one. Definitely not on launch, but DS is my absolute favorite game this gen and it would be hard to go without playing the sequel. If MGSV was also exclusive I would definitely cave.

So if foxgod truly loves these games so much that he can't live out them, I can understand.

But I think it's likely Dead Rising is a timed exclusive.

On another note, I find it depressing foxgod has 5 bubbles and I have 2. I think just because I passionately tell me point of view, some people mistake that for arrogance and not being able to see all sides.

[secretcode]

I was all ready to bash this guy until I read article #12 and I realized he's doing this just for attention and views.

Piss off.

[Foxgod]

And of course opinion articles from sony fans full of lies about the XB1 is absolutely not for the hits.

[PiTCHBLaCK]

What Lies?

[patsrule316]

I currently have 2 xbox 360s and a PS Vita (never had a PS3 or PS2), but I preordered a PS4 after weighing the pros and cons of each system for my needs.

That being said, there certainly were some good reasons to by an Xbox One. If the family circle thing is really the way IGN, Forbes, and a few other sites are saying, and you can really share your games with any 10 friends, that is huge, and really outweighs the drm for me (although I am still not convinced it will work the way it has been reported) The new match system sounds like a big improvement in who you will be able to play against, plus being able to set your desired match and then do other things on the system while you weight for your match conditions. The ability to watch tv in the corner while you play is a positive. Plus they do have some cool looking exclusives.

For me, it came down to my trust in the hardware that Sony is using, the value of PS+, the ability to remote play on my vita, the courting of the indies, the price, and I worry about the need for connection every 24 hours (not because I cannot connect to the net and not because of what happens 10 to 15 years from now when they turn off the serves, because I would expect a software update before they shut them down to take care of that, but because I expect the xbox live service to be down from time to time, and if there is some kind of cyber attack on the service with an extended delay, I would hate to not be able to use my system at all).

But all that being said, there certainly are reasons to buy an Xbox One, just I didn't think they were enough for me to go with them over PS4.

[mantisimo]

hmm gentle MS trolling?

coming down on the side of ps4 yet still making positives for the xbox?

pat something smells fishy to me.

[patsrule316]

So you consider listing the pluses and minuses of both consoles trolling? I thought I was providing legitimate discussion, looking at things from both sides, and not saying anything inflammatory at all...the exact opposite of trolling.

[BattleTorn]

N4G: where anything pro MS, under a MS article nonetheless, is automatically trolling....

Have you ever paused to consider you in fact may be the troll?

[jmc8888]

Well if the article author is going to be correct about his plusses and minuses he has to get beyond the following things.

1. He has to actually get the correct info, so far there are numerous errors.

2. He assumes things and uses that as a 'reason'. He thinks the Xbox One will be out first. Everything that's out there says the PS4 will be out first and that the xbox one might not even launch in 2013.

3. Subjective things. Like Dual Shock 4 controller. Hey I prefer the 360 controller to Dual Shock 3, but neither of those controllers will be used by Sony or MS. They are both being changed, and in the end whatever they turn out to be, it's entirely a subjective reason barring some weird hardware problem with one of the controllers.

Or he thinks the xbone is a better deal and longer staying power because of Kinect?

The reasons he listed are so bogus it's crazy.

So he makes the leap of faith judgement that the Kinect 2 won't be spying on him because he links to Xbox's page.

They've already said they'll follow court orders and give the gov't info. Except it never said WHAT kind of court. The answer is simple, FISA court, which is unconstitutional.

Now for those of you that don't understand why the FISA court was created, especially the current iteration used for the fake war on terror, does not need to meet constitutional standards. It's a lower bar. Meaning anyone can be spied upon. THey don't even need a court order as they have even lower things like a 'letter of national security'.

So besides MS happily giving over your info, it is ALSO a means for where the NSA can take the stuff even if MS doesn't want to give it over. So even IF, and that's the mother of ALL if's, MS wanted to say NO...they can still go outside of MS's wishes to do it anyway.

But why should even trust MS?

1. They gave gov't backdoors into Windows since Windows 95.

2. They hand over the web information and email..think like hotmail and bing.

3. They already stated they would comply with any court order, like I stated above, even the Kangaroo FISA court order...or even less...by their words, which will include anything XBone related, which means KINECT 2 people!!!

4. They just came out today and stated that they purposefully told the gov't about security flaws (i.e. bugs) in Windows and other software so that our gov't could use those holes to spy or do malicious things to people and then would hold off on fixing them so the gov't could use those flaws. (didn't you ever wonder why suddenly you would here of 15 holes in Windows that needed to be patched? why that many all at once?)

So yes MS/XBone/Kinect 2 will be spying on you.

Fool me once shame on me
Fool me four times (and no doubt more) shame on MS fanboy

That's whats really funny and sad. PRISM is but a drop in the bucket of what's going on. Yet already we see this much info of how much MS sold you out. No doubt they were also one of the thousands of companies that traded your data with gov't so they could get their hands on other data.

So really that's like 5 ways they've screwed you over (no doubt more)...and they dare ask you to 'trust them'.

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.

[QuickdrawMcgraw]

Yawn

[Wedge19]

Poorly written article trying to spin things in ways that they can't be spun. For example, yes your games work on up to 10 Xbone systems, but that's because of limited trade and resale games (only once per disc). Sony's CURRENT console is 2, because you can trade and resale a disc as often as you flippin' want.

That's just one example. Article is full of the author comparing apples to orangutans which you can't do. Failure to mention PS Plus when talking about Xbox Live. Talking about timed exclusive DLC on Xbone but failure to mention ACTUAL exclusive DLC on PS4 (Ubisoft titles). And trying to say that online multiplayer games requiring an internet connection is the same as the PS4 requiring internet is stupid and absurd. The argument is about single player titles, not about online games that people already know will require a connection online.

This article is spun like a true fanboy, next time compare your facts straight across, rather than from your skewed Microsoft mountain.

[BattleTorn]

I actually think the ability to share your game library with up to 10 friends is quite an invaluable feature.

I buy TONS of games, and my friends are realizing that with X1 they would get to play all my games. (Which they otherwise would likely not buy themselves)

They also can play newer games that I wouldn't loan the disc yet. I would only loan disks when I was positive I would come home with an urge to play them.

With X1, they can play my newest games, while I currently am not, and I can still return home and have the same games to play.

[Ju]

The voice of desperation.

[SpinalRemains]

Lmao!

So you think you own that Killzone?

Perhaps not the content for massive redistribution, but I own the disk.

You know, the same disk on which I can play the game from!

This article was the worst spin job I have ever seen. Ever.

[Hozi]

I realize I'm in the middle of a Fanboy warzone but please take in what I have to say.

Xbox and PS fanboys need each other just like MS needs Sony and Vice versa.....It's just a matter of time before Sony follows through with this DRM thing, it's just that this time they got an opportunity to seize the spotlight. They gonna let MS be the guinea pigs of this DRM stuff.

If we didn't have multiple consoles from different co...then gaming might have been really boring and un innovative. We need competition in order to keep improving.

[merciless]

The single most butt hurt article i've ever seen posted here.

[WeAreLegion]

WTF and No to this horrible site.

[SonyPS4]

Give me 2 reasons why I should cancel my PS4 pre-order and buy an XOne.

[SpinalRemains]

You want to look like a moron

You want to contribute to the death of console gaming.

Those are the first two that I could think of.

[MisfitsInc]

who ever wrote this bullshit needs to have his floor riddled with legos and all his shoes and socks taken away

[LordDhampire]

This article is pretty blind fanboyism

Terrible points

[urwifeminder]

What hype I just ignore anything that has playstation in the headline on this site or a photo even mentioning it I see no hype at all well done ms.

[Jeff257]

1 reason to get a PS4 over the XBOX One. Sony owns Naughty Dog.

For those that don't know. They are the creators of a late gen brand new IP that is impressing most critics even more than most over games released this gen. I for one cannot wait to see what they have in store for the PS4.

[Orionsangel]

I hate these sort of articles.

[NeoTribe]

The xbots still cant seem to understand that the ps3 has officially won this console gen. Keep trying to twist things around, you are the minority.

[Steadyhndz]

1: The trade-ins with the Xbox One are VERY limited. We want it to be as free as it is with current gen games. That's the point. We as the gamers do not want some clustered, complicated system.

2: Actually several Sony Representatives said that the way the PS4 and it's connectivity will work is just about identical to how it is today with the PS3.

3: Your examples given are 2 completely different concepts. One is a physical problem with the hardware given to the customer, the other is a security concern. 2 very different concepts, and should not be used as examples of flaws within each system.

4: Actually every game system has done this since the PS2, Xbox (Gamecube maybe). The only way I explain this is that you're being leased the game to be used. Meaning you do not claim full ownership of it.

5: Are we really going to argue the design of controllers now? Besides we have many 3rd party companies coming in and offering new creative controllers for both systems. Personally I like the Sony Playstation design though.

6: $100 difference. It's as easy as that. If you're going to use the Kinect as an excuse, then why not have a system that doesn't come with it for less?

7: This is entirely personal preference. I enjoy many of exclusives from both Xbox and Playstation, but in the end coming out for the next year, Sony has Microsoft beat by many many games. I believe the count is at 144 for PS4, and 60 something for Xbox One?

8: A lot of the features for the Xbox One are features that most gamers are going to not really care about. However the PS4 and it's features are "dull". At the same time though, both systems are aiming for a more interactive system when it comes to social networking, and sharing what you have on your system. Which is a direction that both companies needed to make.

9: You're basing this off of the spew you spit. Regardless, they're coming out this holiday season, end of story.

10: PS3 users are already used to this, and most of them just think of this as "meh". Is this really going to be a selling point to anyone? no...

11: Technology is not completely flawless when it comes to accessibility and security. We've proven this before, we can still hack the newest webcams with the latest security on the computer it's connected to. We can hack cell phones to listen in even when the phone is not being used by it's owner. I'm sure someone will find a way to access the Kinect to be usable without the owner being aware of it.

12: The main concerns of the Xbox One have been addressed by Microsoft at E3. The main concerns are DRM, 24-hour check in, and the trade-in system. Multiple reps from Microsoft have said that regardless of the communities response, they will not be changing these features because it is "The Future" of this industry (to them). Sony has said the same thing about their system. They do not plan to change anything with any issues regarding the PS4 or if they'll change their ways to some of the Xbox One ways...they clarified that it is not going to happen.

[Sam_Seed]

This article says it is not biased, but after reading it is heavily biased towards XBONE. I think we can tell which is the better gaming product from the E3 conference.

[llMurcielagoll]

And so it begins... The clash of the opinion pieces.

[bunfighterii]

N4G is just full of these BS articles from crappy sites "5 reasons to X" and "10 reasons to Y" etc etc. They're all bullshit hit grabbers.

[TheGrimReaper0011]

On the subject of controllers
Why the hell is Microsoft STILL using batteries?
Why not use bluetooth technology?
Oh, that's right! Sony owns part of that, just like blueray
So I gues with every blueray disc that microsoft sells, sony gets a share so ... thank you microsoft XD
Also, the fact that we need to overcome so many obstacles makes this a fail for M$, they will lose.

[GentlemenRUs]

When a websites name has "leet" in it, Then you know you have gone too far!

[Roper316]

all I need is 1 reason to be hyped and that is......

Sony allows me to own what I pay for.

What else matters? Not owning what you pay for like MS is doing?

[Saleem101]

Lol xbox fanboys still trying spin the situation... Ps4 has better GPU and Ram and better price there is no way to spin the situation Microsoft got caught with there pants down being greedy. oh yea word is getting around Microsoft paid developers to not show up at sony e3 conference or not mention ps4 version of games shown off at Microsoft conference... titanfall is one year exclusive to xbox one meaning the game will be on ps4 in 2015 :)

[Chucky2003]

i got only one reason that i should,PS4 will launch in my country while X1 won't

[-Gespenst-]

I'm not a fanboy, and I definitely prefer the Ps4, but I'd encourage people to read my blog entry: http://n4g.com/user/blogpos...

[shinrock]

So let me get this str8.
PS fans don't play online
PS fans don't think that they should pay to play.

And with all this free to play and free give a ways(although you don't get to keep the games)talk, it sounds like PS gamer Have no plans on really buying any games.

For me the online check isn't a problem,as my systems haven't been without a connection since the Dreamcast.

[HugoDrax]

Funny how I can't open the article, is anyone else having issues with this?

[Enigma_2099]

It's gonna take more than an opinion piece to fix Microsoft's f*** up.

[XxZxX]

The tide has change. To protect Microsoft interest, like Sony protection group in the launch of PS3, I give you Microsoft Defense force for XBOX 1.

[T2X]

I think everyone needs to settle down. Buy whatever the hell you like. I couldn't care less, and neither should any of you. It's a game system, a toy. Buncha nerds!

[XxLakersxX]

Personally for a next gen console I'll start with the ps3 due to price and graphics then wait for an XBOX one price drop and purchase then

[kingPoS]

We’d rather pay £429 for the Xbox One rather than PS4′s £349 asking price...

What??????

Willing to pay more for what???

[Blakhaze999]

I stopped reading this article once it said he rather spend more money for the xbox. Made the rest of the article seem pointless because that is straight horseshit and no one believes that. Probably a m$ employee in disguise. Fuck outta here wit that bs!!

[KingKevo]

Let's break this down:

1: But it's way too complicated and you can't just lend the game to a friend or sell it online.

2: OMG!! Online games do require an online connection? Really?! I thought I could play an online game offline as well. /s

3: So you basically say you can't predict the future. Lol. I'd be surprised if anyone could...

4: The paragraph is about the System Software. And that's how it is everywhere. Thanks.

5: People say the controller is very good [Edit: The PS4 controller]. Rumble on Xbox One is great when correctly implemented, though some had problems with the bumbers.

6: Better value? Not many people want Kinect, so why pay for it? PS cam is optional, and that's a good thing.

7: Yeah yeah, games. Sony still has better 1st party exclusives and great support from 3rd parties and indies. However, MS is rich!! And Titanfall? Get it on PC or 360 if you are interested.

8: Whatever..

9: So what?! Get a bad console because it's out earlier? NOOOOO!!!

10: Oh wow, MS money again. Does anyone really care. And Sony has these deals as well. Think about BF3. And Ubisoft games come with additional content that WON'T be anywhere else.

11: And well, I think he is. MS is analyzing me and using the data for their own good. Ads, licences on content, etc. Thanks 24 hour check-in. Thanks for sending the data you collected to your MS servers for further analysis.

12: Not really. Most things CANNOT be changed at all or not completely and definitely not from one day to the next and easily. But you do know it all anyway.

[THEMIGHTYDOOVDE]

I think these types of articles are designed to show just how desperate Sony fans are for a PS product to reign supreme again.

What with 3rd parties LOVING M$ cash, I can't see Sony pulling it off.

I look forward to popping back in 30 mins to see this comment hidden for trolling!

[Blankolf]

This must be a comedy/sarcasm article, i love how he doubts about stuff that is already confirmed for PS4, but hey, jornalism and attention whores are hard to diffirenciate..