And The Winner Of The PlayStation 4/Xbox One Console Wars Is...The PC?

Forbes - “X-Box One: Because that’s how many we’re gonna sell,” gamer Paul Sposato wrote on his Facebook FB -0.67% page when he saw the Microsoft MSFT +0.44% and Sony announcements at E3. Sposato is an Xbox enthusiast, an Xbox loyalist. But after last night’s presentations, he does not plan on buying the new-generation console, Xbox One.

[Majin-vegeta]

So no, this isn’t the best news, but it’s not as bad as it could be either. If Sony allows access to non-gaming internet apps without PS Plus, that will make a lot of people content with the new system. And though yes, it was great to play online for free with the PS3, a PS Plus subscription does offer quite a lot for the money, according to those who currently have it.

Umm is this clown for real??SOny already said stuff like this won't be blocked if you don't have PS+

http://n4g.com/news/1278114...

[Hatsune-Miku]

is this a contest about pirating games? or wasting money on upgrading parts every year to two years? probably its a contest about system viruses that prevents you from playing games or being forced to be connected online 24hrs a day to play on steam, origin or some other gaming services on pc. what did the pc win? the new consoles will now get all pc exclusives and more games because they actually get a lot of exclusive games.

ps4 won e3 and playstation has been winning since entering the gaming market because they always brought the best exclusives in abundance. people can go and waste money on titan and such video cards now when ps4 will out do anything pc will be doing for a few years. look at killzone shadow fall and youll realize how pointless it is to have a 4k pc to play high end games if youre a smart gamer.

[AntoineDcoolette]

someone sounds computer illiterate

[NameRemoved0017]

You don't need Internet to play games bought through Steam :D and also PC has way more exclusives coming out, more than the xbox one, ps4 and wii u combined. You don't need a titan to run games max anything over a gtx 770 for 1080p is overkill, titans are for people doing triple monitor or 1440p+. The only way your going to get a virus is if your not using anti virus and you download porn off/fake prgorams all day.

http://i.imgur.com/3uZQpxB....

If you have the $ though your best setup would be get a PS4 for the console only games and exclusives and a PC for everything else.

[ZeroX9876]

@hdshatter

my setup was PC and PS3 (I have every console this gen, but my primary ones were the PS3 and my PC).

[starchild]

You don't have a clue.

[SITH]

As a recently returning PC gamer, you definitely have no damn clue what you are talking about. I have been gaming on Pc since August last year, and nothing you said makes any sense. And my GTX 690, i7-3960x gaming PC straight T bags the xbox one and Ps4. And steam has an offline mode high-speed. I will not abandon my xbox-live account because of $499.99 My day one xbox one will sit right next to my PC which cost 8 1/2 times the cost of xbox one.

[dedicatedtogamers]

Let's consider the XBox 360. Yeah, it is third place in sales, but it still sold nearly 80 million (and it's still selling). We know that out of those 80 million, at least 30 don't even go online, and the remainder are made up of people who are Silver (free) and Gold members. Obviously, there are people who choose not to play online and to not pay for Gold, even on The Online Gaming Console(tm).

So, I'm not justifying the requirement for PS+ for online multiplayer, but there are a lot of people (myself included) who do not use their PS3's online multiplayer. I haven't played my PS3 online in...probably 18 months. Now, it's still connected. I still get messages and demos and friend requests, and I am already a PS+ user, but it's just food for thought.

[mp1289]

"Xbox gamer Akil Hill, who is disappointed in the Xbox One’s upcoming titles (“Minecraft…. At least make it Minecraft HD!”) won’t be buying the Xbox One…or the PS4, either. “I will stick with the Xbox 360 until it is no longer supported.”

Theres a lot of people like this guy, but eventually theyll convert and not to the pc.

[hellvaguy]

@mp

I want your magical know it all crystal ball so I buy me a lottery ticket and get some monies.

[mp1289]

@hellvaguy

try,

2 24 30 35 40 25

meanwhile, ill take my chances on the PS4 like i did with PS3

I didnt use a crystal ball btw. I Just thought the xbox one wasnt gonna do too well because of the price and restrictions and people would eventually upgrade from the 360 to the ps4. As for the lottery numbers, theres a 1 out 176 million chance that it will be the next powerball number. good luck.

[showtimefolks]

most pc exclusive titles even MMO's will be out on xbox one and ps4 so in a way we the console gamers get the exclusives plus the PC titles but pc gamers only get pc games and not console exclusives

[starchild]

There are lots of PC exclusives that consoles don't get.

Plus PC is now the only system that:

1. Has full backwards compatibilty with tens of thousands of games.

2. The best graphical quality by far.

3. The best frame rates. Solid 60fps or higher vs a stuttery 30fps on consoles.

4. Mods.

5. Way more freedom and choice in every regard.

6. Don't have to pay a monthly fee to play games online.

And a bunch of other stuff Im not going to bother going into right now.

[aliengmr]

There are PC games out there that even dedicated PC gamers (like myself) aren't aware of. The PC has exclusive genres.

There are no barriers to entry on PC. If you can make a game, you can get it on PC.

[titletownrelo]

I don't think you can create a PC at 400 dollars that does what the PS4 can. Not trolling, just my thoughts...Feel free to prove me wrong, its all good.

[aliengmr]

You're right, which is why they get the money other ways.

[showtimefolks]

also unlike the PC's these gaming consoles are meant to do one thing and that's gaming

gaming consoles went from 512MB to 8GB ram lol, its a huge jump and looks like next gen we will see some gorgeous looking games

i am not expecting my console to do what a medium/high end pc does gaming wise but it doesn't have to because i am satisfied with 60FPS with 1080P(which i am hoping most of the games will be able to do)

[-Mezzo-]

We're talking Console, aren't we.

[Hatsune-Miku]

ps4 is the winner of e3

[2pacalypsenow]

PC is not a console , When people talk about Home consoles Were talking about Wii,PS4,Xbox 1 . Just because you can plug in a PC to a TV does not make it a console

[Corpser]

You tell me what the difference is. I have a pc connecting to the same tv as my consoles and I use a 360 controller. 80% of the games you have in your console I can play on my pc, and when gaikai comes to pc, all the playstation library will too

[2pacalypsenow]

Because a personal computer is customizable and expandable ,re configurable Its Personal . Consoles are statics and can't be personalized or customized like PC's .
Pc's are always evolving and getting better.
Back in the Ps1-Ps2 days No one called a PC a console , Why are they doing it now?? so they can compare it and say PC is always better??

And do you really think Sony will let people plays all their Games on Pc ?? Gaika Is exclusive to PS4

[Dynasty2021]

Well technically the new consoles, especially the Xbox, are PCs now.

X86 is the most common architecture in the world. Why? Because it's PC architecture.

I'm not saying PCs are better than consoles as that's a futile argument with console owners, but not a single person can say that consoles are not PCs now.

They just have a different OS/interface.

[Parapraxis]

Consoles are not PCs.
There, I just said it.

[Corpser]

^^^. Gaikai is not exclusive to ps4, it's coming to pc and tablets

[2pacalypsenow]

I apologize i did not know Gaika was on PC and tablets too

[starchild]

But nobody said we are talking about consoles. We are talking about gaming systems, which the PC definitely is.

[2pacalypsenow]

The title says "And The Winner Of The PlayStation 4/Xbox One CONSOLE Wars Is...The PC?"

[green-cigarettes]

Here we go again...

[SoapShoes]

You know who's paying Forbes' bills. They keep putting out articles that downplay how terrible the Xbox One is and articles that twist the truth of the PS4 to put doubt into it. lol They are trying too hard.

[WeAreLegion]

Most gamers own at least a decent PC. Steam makes it impossible NOT to game on PC. That being said, we also usually own at least one console.

My setup this generation will be PS4/Vita/PC/Wii U. I just wish the Wii U had more games coming out.

[aquamala]

I don't want to hear the argument that PC gaming is expensive anymore now that you need to add the cost of the $50-60 subscription per year for either next gen consoles.

free cloud saves
free online multiplayer
free automatic updates
free to play games
free infinite backward compatibility

[PurpHerbison]

PC gaming has never been expensive. Never. I guarantee you that your average console gamer spends more on games alone than the cost of your average PC gaming rig. No need to factor the cost of the console into the equation.

[AceofStaves]

But don't you have to regularly upgrade PC hardware specs every couple of years in order to play the newest PC releases? I have a laptop that's only a couple of years old, and it couldn't even play the beta for the Marvel Heroes MMO without lag and frame-rate issues.

That's why I prefer consoles for the majority of my gaming. One purchase price, and I can play the games released on that platform even years after it stops being manufactured. No need to constantly check and upgrade the unit's specs.

And since I prefer single-player games, I won't need to pay the subscription fee to play the games unless the added features of those subscriptions are worth it to me.

[aquamala]

"But don't you have to regularly upgrade PC hardware specs every couple of years in order to play the newest PC releases?"

laptops are different, unless you have a gaming laptop, otherwise they are just not meant for gaming.

I'm talking about gaming PCs here. and no you don't need to regularly upgrade to play the latest games, you may well need to do that to max out the latest games. But if you're a console gamer you are already not maxing out games, console gamers are still playing in 720p, not even maxing out the resolution of your TV...

[Tundra]

No, you don't have to upgrade on a regular basis. An 8800 GT (6~7 year old GPU) is perfectly fine to run every game this gen. 1080p 60fps Ultra isn't a requirement when dealing with PC. It's there if you want it.

Laptops without a discrete GPU aren't meant for gaming.

[PurpHerbison]

Even gaming laptops aren't really meant for gaming in the long run.

[SoapShoes]

Infinite bc, huh? Try playing a Windows 95 game on Windows 8 and tell me how that works out for ya.

[aquamala]

have a look at

http://www.gog.com/

I can even play DOS games

and you can run any programs in "Windows 95 compatibility mode" in Windows 8

[TechnicianTed]

You can still play a lot of them through compatibility mode, and for the rest that don't work you can setup a virtual machine to run them. A bit of messing around in some cases, but still doable.

[MrDead]

So paying for something like PlayStation Plus is a bad thing?
Heres a list of what you are so against for £39.99 a year.

Free games list of what Plus members have got so far.

Hitman Absolution
Joe Danger 2
Dead or Alive 5
Sine Mora
Velocity Ultra
Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning
ICO and Shadow of the Colossus HD Collection
Rayman Origins
Coconut Dodge Revitalised
Super Street Fighter IV (Arcade Edition)
Little Big Planet 2
Demon’s Souls
BioShock 2
Vanquish
Resident Evil 5: Gold Edition
Sleeping Dogs
Borderlands
Infamous 2
Just Cause 2
Darksiders
Saints Row 2
Spec Ops: The Line
King of Fighters XIII
Ratchet and Clank: All 4 One
Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine

PlayStation Vita retail games
Gravity Rush
BlazBlue: Continuum Shift Extend
Uncharted: Golden Abyss
Wipeout 2048
Disgaea 3: Absence of Detention
Ninja Gaiden Sigma Plus

PlayStation Network games
PlayStation 3 and Vita
Zombie Tycoon 2: Brainhov’s Revenge
Knytt Underground
Retro City Rampage
Foosball 2012

PlayStation 3
Double Dragon Neon
Pac-Man Championship Edition DX
Lara Croft and the Guradian of Light
The Walking Dead (Ep. 1 & 2)
Virtua Fighter 5 Final Showdown
Closure
Renegade Ops
Dungeon Defenders
NFL Blitz
Quantum Conundrum
Rochard
Anomaly: Warzone Earth
Joe Danger 2: The Movie
Mega Man 10
Mega Man 9
Scott Pilgrim vs. The World
Starhawk
Hard Corps: Uprising
Guardians of Middle Earth
Sideway: New York
The Cave
Gotham City Imposters
Choplifter HD
Payday: The Heist
Bloodrayne Betrayal
Labyrinth Legends
Zombie Apocalypse: Never Die Alone
Malicious

PlayStation Vita
Jet Set Radio
Chronovolt
Tales from Space: Mutant Blobs Attack
The Pinball Arcade
Plants vs. Zombies

PSP
Final Fantasy Tactics: The War of the Lions
Tekken 6
Soul Calibur: Broken Destiny
Mega Man Maverick Hunter X

PS One Classics
International Track and Field
Hot Shots Golf 2

PS Mini
Ronnie O’Sullivan’s Snooker
Farm Frenzy 2
Kaleidoscope

And huge discounts on new releases and access to early beta.

I'm sure I've missed something but I would say its worth the money.

[aquamala]

all the multi platform games on that list are worthless to me because I rather play them on PC and already own most of them.

the few good ps exclusive games on that list I already own before they came to ps+ (I have a ps3 and vita).

so no these "free" games are not worth $50 a year to me. they are worth more to people that don't play games on other platforms, and don't buy many recent games.

[MrDead]

@aquamala

So because these free games, discounts on new titles and early beta access are worthless to you must mean they are worthless to everyone else?

[mrmancs]

Is it true if your account on steam gets banned you lose all your games...
Ouch.
Ps 4 xbonepc 1

[mrmancs]

... Last time I heard PC sales was down by 33% or more , ps4 will revive console sales and game sales , I for one hardly never buy games for my ps3 any longer , but plan on spending large amounts on games lined up for the ps4 system and no doubt games to be released in the future.
I'm excited again! :-)

[aliengmr]

Sales for pre-built PCs are down because:

1. Non-Gaming users buying mobile devices.

2. Gaming PCs are much easier and cheaper to build yourself.

PC hardware for gaming has been rising. Non-gamers have no real reason to own a desktop or a gaming console.

[Asilayhasteoath]

I knew this article was crap as soon as PC was called a console. Funny how t(is delusional clingy supporter/haters have nothing at stake yet they cling like a baby to a nipple. It's common sense and more importantly fact that PC is POTENTIALLY stronger. Honestly as a fan and supporter of Sony Yes I may be biased but I'm not blind or mentally unstable. PS4 has the best to offer me and I think overall. I grow tired of these ” Why xbox didn't lose” ” Sony let me down at E3”. There is a PC forum on N4G so please stop grasping straws and taking up space on CONSOLE forums. Thanks a lot.

[starchild]

They never said the PC is a console. But it IS a gaming system that does largely the same things as a console, only better.

[C0MPUT3R]

PC isn't a console.

[Kaneda]

PC can play games. They both do the same sh!t! and you can SHARE and skype without monthly..

[creized1]

The title doesn't even make sense

[pop-voxuli]

Um when you went to write "Is...The PS4!" you accidentally wrote PC, I'm sure you'll wanna fix this asap so as not to look like a douchebag

[mrmancs]

Butt hurt , that's all I will say...

[Artificial_Ignorance]

I have a high-end gaming PC. I will be playing on that and the PS4 this gen. SUCK IT MICROSOFT (even tho my comp runs your excellent windows 7 lol...)