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Sony’s Shuhei Yoshida Talks About the PlayStation Camera and on Why it Isn’t in the PS4′s Box

The fact that the PlayStation camera won’t be sold in the same box as the PS4 raised some questions between the playerbase, and today Sony Worldwide Studios Shuhei Yoshida shed some light on the reasons behind the decision, also giving further info on what the SualShock 4 can do without it.

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Blackdeath_6633964d ago

i agree with absolutely everything he said about motion controls " I believe, and this is personal opinion, that for a technology to gain universal acceptance a certain degree of maturity is required. For instance touch control has been introduced a long time ago in machines like ATMs, but it wasn’t as easy to use as in today’s smartphones and tablets.

I think natural interfaces will spread in the future, but I believe we to need identify proper uses for them first." my thoughts exactly

Abriael3964d ago

Same here. That was a very smart thing to say, and rather "gallant", as he didn't go out of his way to trash talk kinect.

Cueil3964d ago

Soooo... he's going to let Microsoft go through the growing pains and when they figure it out he'll use that to then creat something along the same lines? Art of War tactic

Baka-akaB3964d ago (Edited 3964d ago )

Well they went through the same process in the past by that logic , like sega , so why not ?

sashimi3964d ago

Well doesn't microsoft do the exact same thing with every industry they enter? I can't remember the last time they were the first to do anything relevant. They were always the enter the industry once someone else has established it kind of company.

Skips3964d ago

I swear to God.

It's like Yoshida KNOWS what we ALL WANT!!!

This man...

NateCole3964d ago

/\/\ @sonic

It's because he is a gamer himself.

Triforce0793964d ago (Edited 3964d ago )

Look i have Wii U so i get VGA camera on my controls and for gaming that will do me and it can scan your face and put you in games ie zombiU.

In fact all the features of GAMEPAD are amazing and to think when i buy a new GAMEPAD i have a second camera ect ect not to mention local 2 player with 2 GAMEPADS.

SecondSon3963d ago

@sashimi
*coughs* Windows *coughs*
Its just smart business.

baodeus3963d ago

@cueil

Art of War? You are funny. Look what happen to the tablet industry. Bill gate introduce it longs ago, but they didn't push it forward because they think it isn't good at the time. Apple did, and now MS is just want to hang themselves because they can't break into that market since apple dominate in that now. Being the first in the market has it advantage.

Cueil3963d ago

@baodeus Yes... I was making a funny, but it's likely they are waiting it out... it's really way to expensive to role into what Microsoft is doing... Microsoft is also selling this tech to the Military and science centers

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trickman8883964d ago

The SualShock4 is looking great.

DOMination-3964d ago

It's strange how they implement all that tech into the dualshock4 for the camera to detect them, but then only a small percentage of people will probably bother with the camera. Oh well, as long as the price of extra controllers isn't increased because of that, then it's a non-issue.

Otherwise, Yoshida talks sense for the most part, as he always does. A very sensible and humble guy.

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney3963d ago

Plus the controller, games and camera are all the same price.

$60..

:)

kupomogli3963d ago

PS+ is $50 for a year or $18 for three months.

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bub163964d ago

im glad its not in the box. motion gaming is something i have no interest in, it would just raise the price for something i wont ever use

Cam9773964d ago (Edited 3964d ago )

*Cough* XBONE *Cough*
The inclusion of a compulsory Kinect clearly raised the price; moreover, I rarely use my current PS EYE so making the Kinect compulsory is just ludicrous. Sure, it has voice commands but it's arguably easier without them because you can use a controller which is quick too. What's the point of voice commands except when you haven't got a controller in your hands? Somebody please tell me.

At least Sony have learnt their lesson from the PS3 - that is that high prices don't roll well with the consumer.

FragMnTagM3964d ago

The only thing I could think of is RPG's with big menu systems. If you know the names of spells or items, it could save you a pause and going through tons of lists and categories.

Other than that, I can't see it being better than a controller.

BISHOP-BRASIL3964d ago

But considering that both consoles will have headsets and (I belive both again) a mic on the controller, do you really need kinect for voice input?

KwietStorm_BLM3963d ago

I don't care for motion controls either, and I'm glad they kept the camera separate to keep the cost down for everyone, but I'm getting it for video chats and live streaming.

CaptinzLee3964d ago

Thank God Sony Has A Brain Cause I Would Barely Use The Camera. But I Will Get It In The Long Run

nukeitall3964d ago (Edited 3964d ago )

So you will get the camera, but don't plan on using it?

If you are paying for it, don't you want practically universal support with it both from third party and first party?

See that is the thing, as an accessory the support will most definitely be subpar from everyone including Sony. I'm not saying if that is good or bad, but that is the reality of it.

Having the camera in the box, guarantees better support and increased value. The only real question is the value worth it for consumes?

The previous Kinect sold gazillion for $150, something nobody thought it could so first impression it is, but we will have to wait to see, but if you ask biased n4g, then they will definitely say no.

panbit863964d ago

The thing is though that by not having it in the box you can have a better price for your main product without shoving it down everyones throat and flooding games with pointless gimmicks just to give meaning to their decision. Also shovelware is a big concern with Kinect while with an accessory like Move and Eye they have to strive for more quality titles and additions to make gamers want it. All in all i think Sony is doing everything right this time around!

Temporary3964d ago

The previous kinect sold well initially because of the fake videos put out in ads showing smoke and mirrors and making people think it worked much better than it really did.

There's no need to pack it in with the console, it DOES get more support and thats the problem. No one wants kinect shovel ware and no one would care if the PS Eye didn get support with every title released.

I just want to pick up my controller an play games. Thats it. The gimmicks don interest me, and Sony knows thats how most true gamers feel.

Why o why3964d ago (Edited 3964d ago )

C'mon Nukeitall... stearing wheels aren't included with any console yet they're supported very well but dont get used all the time. Just more false talk especially when move was implemented into many of core games available in a more precise way. You could actually play killzone with the move controller alone.....that couldn't be done with kinect on any fps and I doubt you can with k2 either.

Granted, the support for move was pushed mainly on 1st and 2nd party games but there were a few outside of those that utilised it. Integration for integrations sake isn't a benefit if it adds nothing to the game.

Kinect 2 may actually do what ms demoed all them years back but the question is will games now be forced to tack it on or will 3rd party devs start making core level type games with it in mind...not as an extra feature but the controller.

NateCole3964d ago

There are many flaws with your argument.

1. Kinetic sold because the entery level cost of owning it was 299 with the x360. The X1 will cost $200 more so it will be significantly more expensive for casuals that may be looking at buying it.

2. Forcing kinetic will drive up dev cost and add gimmicky motion gaming that add little or no value to core gaming.

3. Having PSeye optional forces devs to build better motion gaming games that will attract PS owners to buy a PSEye because the experience is worth it.

Redempteur3964d ago

Nothing prevent sony or any third party to have a bundle with the camera in it ...
Just like some copies of sports champions had the pseye in them.

giovonni3963d ago (Edited 3963d ago )

@pinbit, no one had an issue when ps3 forced Bluray down people's throats... I heard no gripe about those issues, Bluray was one of the Main factors why ps3 came out on the steep end. There were no worries there. If we gonna complain about the xboxone than complain about Sony Pratices too. People are just reaching for things to make them feel better about there purchase. We have been living in a always on Internet world for years. Download a game from the playstation store and try and trade it in and see what happens.

I like how Xbox is taking a risk and banking on kinect. No risk no reward. Gamers have killed Sony's ideas for example the boomerang controller. We had no idea what it was able to do, so we said we hated it with out fully understanding it. And Sony comes out with the sixth controller that didn't even get supported. Someone has to take risks or this industry will never evolve.

Hicken3963d ago

Give it a rest, nuke.

nukeitall3963d ago

@giovonni:

I wasn't going to bring it up, but Kinect can be far better value than blu-ray ever was to the PS3.

That said, the full potential of Kinect is likely to unfold with Xbox One. Based on what MS has shown, I think it will be a huge game changer.

Once you walk down the path of as an add-on that decision practically stays with you the entire generation.

@hick:

ditto, especially since you really have nothing intelligent to share!

Hicken3963d ago

What's the point of sharing something intelligent with someone who wouldn't understand it?

Your whole argument is about it being in the box universally and thus seeing better and more support, but you talking about the first Kinect, which WASN'T in the box universally, and yet was still successful.

You don't explain how Kinect could be a better inclusion than Blu Ray- not surprising, since that'd be a hard sell, even to Microsoft.

Really, you just say a bunch of stuff, and expect people to take it as gospel.

Problem is, nothing you say rings true.

nukeitall3962d ago

@Hicken:

"What's the point of sharing something intelligent with someone who wouldn't understand it?"

Yeah, if you talk BS, surely I won't understand it. Yet you spend time sharing with all of the n4g.com a worthless comment. Congrats!

"you talking about the first Kinect, which WASN'T in the box universally, and yet was still successful."

Yes, but success doesn't exclude Kinect from being a better success with a higher adoption rate.

"You don't explain how Kinect could be a better inclusion than Blu Ray- not surprising, since that'd be a hard sell, even to Microsoft."

It is pretty obvious, but I will spell it out to you. Blu-ray was purely used for two things a) play movies b) extra storage. For a) people were for the longest time not really using it much, when the adoption of blu-ray kicked in the standalone players became cheap i.e. you paid way extra for something vast majority don't utilize a lot, but when you did the price gap had reversed i.e. you paid more for the blu-ray capability early on.

For games, it was clear there weren't many issues and there were plenty of workaround.

Why is Kinect potentially a better inclusion?

It enables the gamer to have a different gaming experience, allows you to have a video chat, communicate without a microphone and allows for gesture based interface among other things. The full extent of it, we don't know yet.

Now, it's your turn. Tell me why you think that is a hard sell (i.e. the opposite of what I said)?

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NateCole3964d ago (Edited 3964d ago )

Its the right thing to do by consumers.

There is no reason to force every PS gamer to pay $60 extra for something that they don't want.

If a PS gamer wants it then they should buy it.

Options is good.

giovonni3963d ago (Edited 3963d ago )

Now choices are good? When xbox360 was giving choices it wasn't ok.People complained that the Xbox was giving choices " nickle and diming" with its different price levels. Now it's smart business ?

DVAcme3964d ago

SMART. Sony understands that gamers value choice over everything else, and that we're adverse to being forced to do anything. Not only that, it also makes the Sony camera dodge the HORRIBLE stigma the Kinect has.

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Building Final Fantasy XVI with Producer Naoki Yoshida | AIAS Game Maker's Notebook Podcast

Shuhei Yoshida chats with FINAL FANTASY XVI Producer Naoki Yoshida.

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PS5 Exec Doesn't Want To See Gaming's Future Dominated By Live-Service Games: "Boring"

PlayStation boss Shuehei Yoshida wants the gaming industry to continue to chase its creative dreams.

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Obscure_Observer355d ago

"Got that one right, Shu!"

Kind of ironic when Sony is focused on GaaS like never before.

Flakegriffin355d ago (Edited 355d ago )

Companies evolve overtime. Sony has implemented themselves in the single player space relatively well. Now they can expand further by doing more all while still giving us single player experiences. Obviously Shu is speaking on GaaS games being the main dominance of the gaming space and if that’s the future then that indeed sucks.

You can have that mindset all while still creating some GaaS titles.

InUrFoxHole355d ago

They have 10 in the works right now.

Crows90355d ago

Absolutely! Man all the freaking gaas games theyve been releasing...wait. Not a single one.

sinspirit355d ago

Did you read? It says "dominated". That word means something.

RedDevils355d ago

They don't want to be Blockbuster, too stubborn to adapt with time.

tagzskie355d ago

kinda ironic when it comes to xbox you xboys can even defeat einstein in explation why its good, when it comes to ps you guys became dumb and dumber..

FinalFantasyFanatic355d ago

How so? They're only after one or two good GaaS games, they're throwing crap at the wall until something sticks, alot of those games in development are going to languish and die shortly after release. They're still predominately focused on their core strategy of great single player games (look at the previous interview where they admit they cancel alot of games).

Bathyj355d ago

God why do Xbox gamers always love the thought of PlayStation being as crappy as Xbox.?

DarXyde355d ago

"Like never before" regarding GaaS is like saying "PS3 is a console that launched with HDD space like never before": it's a very low bar to clear because there isn't much precedent.

I happen to agree with Shu here. I don't think being a GaaS title is a scarlet letter, but I can't think of any live service games that have been great at launch either. Naughty Dog is looking likely break that trend. I'd say two love service titles at a time is the sweet spot. I suspect people can only deal with a limited number of live service games contemporaneously.

TheCaptainKuchiki355d ago (Edited 355d ago )

Lmaooo
People always criticize Sony because 90% of their exclusives are single player games. People say they are too expensive because of low replay value.
And you wanna pretend like Sony is focusing on Gaas? Their biggest games aren't Gaas unlike MICROSOFT.

ModsDoBetter355d ago (Edited 355d ago )

How are Sony focused on GaaS?

They own Bungie and have Destiny but the majority of their titles are far from GaaS.

Why, if you are such a die hard Xbot, do you rush to comment on Sony related articles?

1Victor355d ago

@obscure
Are you ok now we was worried about your mental health state when you disappeared for almost a week from bashing PlayStation articles.
Is the word DENIED still triggering you?

I haven’t read the article as my spam blocker always red flags that site and I don’t t want to risk it so a general comment it is 🤦🏿
We all know live services game and quality rarely goes together but some of them are fun to play

derek354d ago (Edited 354d ago )

@Obscure, Sony is starting from a place of zero which requires a big initial investment to establish themselves in the live services market.

Vengeance1138354d ago

It's very much the opposite, Shu said this damn well knowing Sony is going hard on GaaS. This is Shu confirming that Single player games won't be effected at all despite them going into Live service.

Extermin8or3_354d ago

Except they aren't really- they have what may be a live service game from Haven studios and firewalk studios, they have another from a second party dev and an fps game with multiplayer focus by deviation games, they counted Gt7 as a live service game but really it's not much different to how recent GT titles were treated, they have the last of us factions, a Horizon multiplayer game in production at guerilla alongside horizon 3, a new ip from Bungie. The rest of their studios seem to be hard at work on traditional singleplayer games that may also have a multiplayer mode or may not. So their live service titles are mostly in development from either new teams setup at existing studios or from acquisitions they have made which really just replace the capabilities they once had through Sony Online Entertainment until they sold it half a decade ago. Only I'd argue their new capabilities in this space would appear to be better and have higher quality talent than it did back then.

Sonic1881353d ago

And what is Xbox focused on? Redfall is so bad, it's worse than Forspoken 😂😂😂

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S2Killinit355d ago

Thank god for actual gamers in the industry.

neutralgamer1992355d ago

Shu I agree but right now Sony themselves are working on more than 5 live service games

Redemption-64355d ago

He never said they were not working on any. He said, he doesn't want to see Gaming's Future dominated by live-Service Games. Sony currently has 25 games in development. 10 being live service games, with the other mostly likely being single player games and that is honestly a very good balance

neutralgamer1992355d ago

I agree I just hope their live service games are not simple money grabs and try to do some good interesting things

-Foxtrot355d ago

"and that is honestly a very good balance"

The issue is, whether people want to admit it or not because it's Sony, but once a company gets a taste of that money GaaS games make the chances of them going money crazy becomes super higher

I know what you'll probably say

"bu bu but Sony wouldn't do that"

NO COMPANY is immune, even the best can fall and I really don't want to see that happen here.

The fact people will completely blow that off and pretend it's not even a possibility is worrying to me because that's how we end up shits creek.

They might be fine...they might go too far but at the moment I don't think it's a bad thing at all to be sceptical with the shit this industry has gone through in the past 10 years alone.

FinalFantasyFanatic355d ago (Edited 355d ago )

The thing is most of those 10 games won't even be viable, out of the 10 that actually get released, probably only 1 or 2 will make the big bucks worth continuing support. I think Sony even knows that, look at all the other GaaS games that release and die shortly after. Personally I'm okay with that because I don't want the market dominated with these games.

I'd actually rather the resources go on to making some more top-tier JRPGs, I feel like we don't get enough of those in the last couple of gens.

neutralgamer1992354d ago

Final Fantasy

But keep in mind when those games fail many of the studios are shut and there are layoffs

NotoriousWhiz354d ago

I don't want a Gaas game. I just want a new socom. A strong multi-player title with no purchases beyond the initial purchase.

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-Foxtrot355d ago

Yeah exactly what I was thinking

Not 1

Not a cheeky 2

But freaking 5

Like it’s not even a “we’ll try doing one and see how it goes”

__SteakDeck__355d ago

@-Foxtrot What do you have against live service games. I’m not a fan of live service games, but multiplayer games can be done right just look at Titanfall before EA killed it. As long as PS’s core studios keep making single player games, everything should be fine.

Redemption-64355d ago

Sony said they have 25 games in development. 10 being live service games, with the other mostly likely being single player games. They have more single player games in development

-Foxtrot355d ago

@__SteakDeck__

Urm....that they are a cancer in this industry

That the majority of them fail and the developers have then wasted years on them rather than other things.

They turn developers and publishers into thirsty little money grabbers where that big money is still not enough for them.

I could go on, defending GaaS games is not a hill to die on man, it's really not

"done right just look at Titanfall before EA killed it"

Titanfall 2 was not really a GaaS type of game compared to what we are getting now so that's a really bad example.

__SteakDeck__355d ago

@-Foxtrot Yeah it seems like you just have a hatred for multiplayer games. I’m not the biggest fan of multiplayer games, but like I said they can be done well. Also Titanfall 1 had no single player it was multiplayer only and it’s now a dead game, but it was still good. So yes that is a good example.

FinalFantasyFanatic355d ago

@_SteakDeck_,
I'm still salty about Titanfall 2, it was one of the only multi-player games I actually liked.

NotoriousWhiz354d ago

Multi-player games don't have to be Gaas games. Look at Mario Kart, Splatoon. Nintendo's games most likely don't have Gaas because they're behind the times, but this is one area where it's better to be behind the times.

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blackblades355d ago

And? They still have single player games. Domination would completely ruled with live services which Sony should know to still do single player. On a side note they should also do a few 1st party smaller games like indie or AA. By the way is indie a single A game.

Philaroni355d ago (Edited 355d ago )

To be fair, so has many other companies aka Ubisoft for example and many of them they decided to end development on. Just because something is in the works does not mean it will release if they do not feel it will pan out. ATM all of the GaaS we know of from Sony are The Last of Us Factions, and some kind of Horizon (Monster Hunter like) game. Also keep in mind, they do own Bungie, and Destiny and there new project be it Destiny 3 and there new IP will likely be that. So just that on its own is near half of what we can best assume.

Main issue with GaaS now days is that its very over saturated. Keep in mind as well Battel Royal games are GaaS by nature also, hell CoD is GaaS. Halo Infinity, ditto. Really now days unless something is an honest to god single player game only the GaaS term gets over used.

Not sure if many played it (I loved it) Gun's Up was a GaaS for a long while, it was going to shut down till some youtubers gave it a bit of new life for another half of year. We know Sony Mobile is working on things and it not shock me if some of this stuff is targeted to the mobile market.

Right now Sony's biggest weakness I'd say is MP games. With that Firewalk studio from lots of vets they just acquired its quite likely there game will have GaaS stuff as part of it, that is still years down the line. I think everyone needs to chill out some and just wait and see what comes. We have not really got a real honest GaaS from Sony before this or even last gen really... At least as we know them now days. Such a broad term now.

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The face of PlayStation: Shuhei Yoshida on the joy and future of video games

He’s been at PlayStation since the beginning, and seen the games industry transform beyond recognition. He talks unlikely successes, AI, and gaming’s future.

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Workshyskiver360d ago

A titan and a legend of the industry.

autoglope360d ago (Edited 360d ago )

Shue is great. .. He even mentioned Miazaki and Ueda,..

victorMaje360d ago

What a Legend. I salute you.

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