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Pachter: PS4 price is 'genius,' Microsoft 'messed up' with Xbox One

XMNR: Controversial Wedbush Securities analyst Michael Pacther had a few choice words about the PS4 and Xbox One following the two E3 press conferences on Monday and clearly came out on the side of Sony over pricing and a lack of restrictions with the console.

mattmatt_3969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

"Well, well, well. How the turn tables.." - Michael Scott

blitz06233969d ago

Hey look, it's Michael Captain Obvious Pachter

Gandalf3969d ago

Pachter please, we already know it's over.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Relientk773969d ago

^lol Hydrolex

The Rock

Hey Microsoft can you smell what Sony is cooking?

Hydrolex3969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

Microsoft you jabroni candy ass roody poo.... CAN YOU SMELLLLLLL WHAT SONY IS COOOKIIINNNNN !!

God says Xbox GONE

x1: but my name's Xbox ONE

God: IT doesn't MATTER what your name is !!!

BattleAxe3969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

Don Mattrick......You're Fired!!!

@Hydrolex

Come on dude, don't stop there, do a Stone cold Steve Austin impression :D

Ausbo3969d ago

SONY is doomed now. You don't want him on your side. He is always wrong.

Shadow Flare3969d ago

Someone needs to make a gif of the ps4 snowploughing xbone out of the way

Blacktric3969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

The Sonysters send their regards...

http://i.imgur.com/jvmS3i8....

It was even worse than the red wedding to be honest...

Ritsujun3969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

Pachter tried to patch up MS's wounds.
However, Xbone's already turned into bones.

loulou3969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

Microsoft now have the ball in their court

they cannot go toe-to-toe with sony 100 more expensive... So they need to drop the price!

They cannot leave the drm in place so it must be on-line passes like this gen.

Always on-line needs to be rethought as well. The games that need on-line will just have to stay. To late to change that now. But future games need to have options.... Unless they are specific on-line only

Anyting else would be disastrous, microsoft know it. If they dont. This will be the quickest gen ever.

Sony should be thanked for what they have done. But, if microsft change those three things, sony will have a fight on their hands

Zabby913968d ago

"Pachter picks microsoft to win next console generation"

Pachter, go home.

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douevenlift3968d ago

lol For some reason I remember Michael Pachter predicting the next xbone would be 399, in that range, with PS4 being 349.... go home Pachter, you're drunk

Nafon3968d ago

Microsoft when nobody buys the Xbox One:

http://i.imgur.com/QknWd.gi...

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chestnut11223969d ago

Microsoft is down. call an ambulance. Wii u Wii u Wii u

KrisButtar3969d ago

Bubble up, couldn't help but laugh

Xer0_SiN3969d ago

scream laugh when i saw that, i aint even gonna lie ;).

ssj273969d ago

Hahahahah
Comment of the year!

Rivitur3969d ago

That would be a Francis joke but solid joke nonetheless.

theaceh3968d ago

The hardest thing to accept for corporate CEOs like Steve Balmer must be that, in the end, the consumer is the real master.

nosferatuzodd3968d ago

chestnut1122
very nice, very nice indeed lol

showtimefolks3968d ago

Lol good one wiiu wiiu lol

Boody-Bandit3968d ago (Edited 3968d ago )

I email and texted this to everyone I know that has any interest at all in gaming. That was really clever.

+funny

starchild3968d ago (Edited 3968d ago )

Yeah, but Wii U is even worse. How could they rescue anything?

Sorry, the DRM sucks, but I would still take that over a console that has few games. The exclusives are childish rehashes and it doesn't get very many of the big 3rd party games.

PS4 is the clear choice.

shuuwai3968d ago

thanks.. now I have to clean my keyboard..

RyuCloudStrife3968d ago

Copy paste from youtube still funny... I have the original version of the comment and will paste it on another post ;)

titletownrelo3968d ago

lol, seeing the same comment copy/pasted everywhere

RealtorMDandDC3968d ago (Edited 3968d ago )

You kind sir...

Very clever

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Doctor_Freeman3969d ago

Doesn't take a genius to figure that one out Pach.

famoussasjohn3968d ago

Wonder how long it took him to analyze this and determine the PS4 in general is genius and Microsoft messed up.

TheTwelve3969d ago

Pachter said Xbone would win this gen earlier. Remember with Pachter --- whatever he says go with the opposite and you'll be correct.

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Boody-Bandit3968d ago (Edited 3968d ago )

That was before he knew MS came in at $499 for the XBOX ONE. When Pachter was interviewed after the MS E3 event, he said if Sony can come in at $399 and not have restrictions that it would be game over for MS.

I'm not a Pachter fan or anything. Quite the opposite actually. In that I think he is a pompous ***hole. But it's not exactly rocket science to say Sony has a HUGE advantage going into next gen. The only chance MS has of even being competitive is to 86 DRM and possibly even the price of the X1. If not, Sony will roll over them like a bulldozer.

Pachter, as usual, is just pointing out the obvious.

lilbrat233968d ago

This feels la deja vu, and the tables are turned.

T23968d ago

I agree, and I am kind of amazed.. Is anyone else kind of shocked that Sony kind of went the 360 launch route, and it kind of worked? Seems the 399 price is a bit subsidized by online pay, which is pretty smart cuz kids will ask their mom for a 399 present for xmas, then hit them up for the plus sub later... good intro price.
Where MS went the other way, lots of extra toys (which half people don't even want), higher price, still pay online though??? Jeez what were they thinking, they would have been better to go 549 and announce free online forever and say "you will save 400 dollars in the long run"... they did a bad job, pure and simple.

ravens523968d ago

Why does this patcher have any credibility if anything he shuld b blocked frm n4g. He really grinds my gears lol. Neway a def blind mute can make better predictions than him smfh get him out of here...horrible

JBallerX3968d ago

Great quote! After seeing Microsoft's press conference I was very excited about the Xbox One.

HOWEVER, after seeing the Sony press conference...wow. I was an original PS owner way back in the mid 1990's, and loved my PS2. I grabbed an Xbox and then a 360 and never looked at Sony again. However, given MS policies regarding DRM and used games, this is the generation where I will indeed be switching back to Sony. I've been on Xbox Live for over 8 years, and it is a bit hard to do, but MS made it a lot easier with their anti-consumer policies...and weaker system in general...and price. So I hope to see you all on PS4 next gen, as I will not be getting an Xbox.

strifeblade3968d ago

hey isn't patcher supposed to be wrong? i heard that all of his predictions in the videogame industry are wrong. LMAO

stage883968d ago

Pachter talking sense.... what!?

And bubbles for you for quoting The Office!

IRON883 3968d ago

Well we all know who won this generation :) preordered my ps4 2day!!!!

FunkMacNasty3968d ago

Wow. Pachter finally gets one right...

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xPhearR3dx3969d ago

Well, if you for some magical reason love Kinect, the price of a next-gen console with Kinect at $499 isn't bad at all. I think we can all agree that Kinect is more advanced than the PS Eye, however no ONE cares. Let's also remember the PS3 alone launched at $599. However, Kinect can gladly fuck right off. Make a SKU that doesn't require a Kinect purchase or functionality, then we'll talk. Until then, good luck selling the Xbone.

Gildarts3969d ago

Kinect 2 bundled with Xbox One is great for developers as they can count on it always being there. They didn't mess up the price. The price is just right for what you can get out of the Xbox One.

devwan3969d ago

Unlike millions of users willing to pay a license to play their games...

airgangstarr3969d ago

i dont agree bein that ms is takin thing away with there restrictions a weaker console power wise shouldnt cost more cause it can spy on u no one wants it but ms an bein there having such a pr nightmare there price point was yet another chance to gain support back an they done fucked that up too theres no reason besides a few exclusives to even bother with that anti conumer nightmare.. what happens if ur kinect falls an breaks u cant play ur xbox for like 2 to 3 weeks till u get it replaced ...for what so i can say xbox on cmon i can grab my controller

RiPPn3969d ago

I'm not sure the Kinect is better. The PS4 eye has 2 cameras and can record 3d video. I also imagine this helps it sense depth, etc. Though if the Kinect can see in the dark and sense a heartbeat as perfectly as they say then yeah it would be better. Guess we will see when reviewers can actually play with the hardware.

xPhearR3dx3969d ago

But here's the thing. I don't want Kinect in house. I want NOTHING to do with it, let alone being forced upon me.

And the devs always counting on it being there is even worse. Then we'll get even more wasted development on hand gestures and voice commands.

MS spouted about 40 innovations with the new Xbox controller. How about letting gamers put those innovations to the test instead of throwing Kinect in our face.

KwietStorm_BLM3969d ago

That's exactly the problem. Nobody is arguing value, but not everybody wants a TV tuner, dvr, and mandatory Kinect in the first place. It's funny how PS4 is more powerful yet costs less because of these exact decisions Microsoft made.

NeoTribe3968d ago

Lol give it up man. Crap like that is suppost to be seperate and a choice of the consumer. They knew if they didnt ship kinect with it nobody would fall for there useless gimmick again and buy it.

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DJMarty3969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

Kinect 2 runs at 30fps, compared to PSeye 60fps-240fps depending on res.

4>1
60fps-240fps>30fps(LOL)

Legion3969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

Eye = 1280 x 800 pixels x 2 @ 60fps
Kinect2 = 1920 x 1080 x 16 bpp 16:9 YUY2 @ 30fps

Hmmm... Which is better?

We don't know what the Eye's depth stream is, Registration nor it's Infrared Stream (IR) does it even have it? What about it's latency? Big issue if it is poor as the first eye was. (though I am sure it will be much better)

And we don't know the eyes resolvable depth... but we do know it has a 15 degree more field of view (@85*)over the Kinect 2 (@70* horizontal 60* vertical). We don't know the vertical field of view of the eye.

But the biggest thing is the software. And that is were the Kinect 2 has the current real advantage. As MS has put much more support into the Kinect then Sony has put into the eye.

nukeitall3968d ago

@Legion:

You put the nail on the head.

You can't just look at the fps, but also the resolution of the depth sensor and the software magic behind it.

At this point there is so much technology inside the Kinect One that I think Sony can match up, both in hardware and software.

That is of course besides the fact that the PS Eye is an accessory. Accessory rarely get real support, just look at PS Eye and the first Kinect (the latter had the most 3rd party support ever for a peripheral).

kayoss3968d ago

The Eyetoy cost only $70 the Kinect can not cost that much more.
The problem with the Kinect is that its built in with the xbox one, I'm not sure if microsoft can remove it without releasing patch or something.

T23968d ago

totally agree, have no interest in a camera, always on or not, NOT getting ps eye either, don't care how advanced either is...

...Actually I can't add anything more than what you said, great post.

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jujubee883969d ago

Namely because he went on Spike TV today and declared VITA dead and said, "3DS and mobile conquers the handheld market!"

Yeah, you freaking called the 3DS D.O.A. awhile back. Damn it, why do you make me mad?!?

Today was suppose to be a wholly good day. :(

yess3969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

He even called the Vita "to hardcore" 0_o

Wtf is to hardcore?

But got to give him some credit though, he did get something right for once.

ZoyosJD3968d ago

"Too hardcore" is when your product is aimed at such a small portion of the market that it's own relevance in specialty begins to limit prospective buyers.

Honestly, Patcher's predictions are either so out out there or so painfully obvious that the average N4G user could do his job better, without any insider info.

jujubee883968d ago

Well, I'm not going to tell the man how to do his job. I just respectfully disagree with his analysis on the basis of many reasons (being that I follow a lot of Sony and VITA specific news and trends).

theDECAY3969d ago

That one made me cringe...

Inception3969d ago

Oot:
I just read Shingeki no Kyojin (Attack on Titan). Great manga. Can't wait what they can do with live action movie :)

On topic:
Poor MS...they shoot themself in the ass. It must be really hurt T_T

King-Prodigy-X3969d ago

Ain't this the guy, who was hollering about how M$ was going to win.

Cueil3969d ago

He thought they were going to be agreessive and that Sony wasn't going to be a loss leader... He felt with the issues Sony is facing that the Playstion couldn't afford to take a big hit. He was wrong on both counts. What seems to have happened is Microsoft knows they're not going to have a lot of console avalible for launch window and so they price their system high because yields are bad on their chips right now. This is a problem that could last into next year. That allows them to then make an agressive price drop in 2014 to align them with Sony who probably wont be droping the price of their system.
A good old fashion Console War is about to be launched and I'm looking forward to se how each console's chosen path pans out in the future. I'll try and get my PS4 pre-ordered, but I'll probably have to work and it'll get hammered at gamestop... not to upset should be able to grab one early in 14.

T23968d ago

that may be true, but it seems a price drop by xbone in the first 6 months would be a real sign of weakness, may drum up some interest though.

Cueil3968d ago

I doubt in the first 6 months... thinking more around Sept-Nov time frame next year... yields really are going to hurt them in the short term... they've sold out nearly every Day One console so who knows

Salooh3969d ago

I think he wanted to make people expecting a lot from the ps4 to destroy it but he got lucky . Or he already knew about the price ..

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Tomb Raider Remastered just quietly censored one in-game detail

Tomb Raider 1-3 Remastered players are ticked off by the game’s most recent patch, which censors in-game pin-up posters of Lara Croft.

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rlow16h ago

This is why gaming is screwed. When people change things to fit someone’s agenda, it’s a slippery slope downhill.

Christopher6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Even if that agenda is of the developer? Way to remove developer rights.

***One player called it a “huge problem with modern games,” saying they can now be “ruined AFTER people buy them”.***

The level of drama. Yes, I recall sitting there for more hours than I did anything else in the game. These two pinups are the core of the game, after all!

coolbeans4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

rlow1's cringe catastrophizing aside, I do think developers *ought* to strive to maintain an original work to the best of their ability. The language of a "remaster" tacitly implies that - for good or ill - what's being resold is what fans remember but better.

Profchaos4h ago

Games can be ruined after purchasing them yeah we know this not from this but from GTA IV which had half it's radio content patched out due to licensing expirations and to me that was a huge deal.

This pin up poster is a bit of nonsense but the whole argument of modern games can be ruined post launch is Absol true.

DedicatedDark3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

It's not their work to censor. They are incharge of restoration & remastering the work, not overwriting it.

Barlos2h ago

It's not the agenda of the developer though, they're pandering and trying to increase their ESG score.

Way to support censorship...

victorMaje2h ago

It’s not the end of the world for sure, but I understand the hate towards this kind of change. I believe it’s also a matter of principle.

Imagine a Picasso painting being restored & the restorer deciding there aren’t enough strokes, or some lines aren’t straight enough or curved enough…not sure it would/should sit well with people.

Have all original devs signed off on this change? Even if it’s the case, are we saying older gamers are better mentally equipped to process what was there than current gamers, hence the change?

Enough time ago the case was made that games are an art form. We’re supposed to have won that case.
So which is it? Are games art or not?

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Eidolon2h ago

Hasn't this been happened for over a decade since remasters? I can't see that it's any worse now. Maybe if Sweet Baby starts getting their hands on remasters we will definitely have a problem.

Rebel_Scum5h ago

tbh I dont see something like this as censorship. Does anyone else not find it strange for someone to stick pin ups of themsleves in a locker room?

Now of it was a pin up of some half naked firefighters it might make sense as Lara might like that, and if they removed that I would cry censorship. But removing pin ups of the main character, yeah I get it.

Barlos2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

It's a game, and they were placed there for the audience. It's not real life. If it was, she wouldn't have fought a T-Rex now would she?

Yes, it's censorship but it's a bit less in your face. If they were in the original game, then they should have been in the remasters. It's bad enough that they have that ridiculous unnecessary warning at the start, but then they start removing things post launch. I don't care how small the change, they shouldn't be doing it. It's nothing but ESG pandering but in a subtle way.

Rebel_Scum1h ago

Look bro, if you have pictures of yourself naked on a bear skin rug up in your house let me tell you, its not normal.

SimpleDad1h ago

By the year 2030, this remaster collection will totally be changed and censored. Probably will remove Lara as a playable character. It's ridiculous. Glad that my family didn't buy this.
I still have Tomb Raider 2 PS1 as a memory.

CobraKai1h ago

It’s mentioned in the article, and it’s a point i 100% agree with, it’s the fact that they can censor a game after you buy it. That’s total bullshit.

Killer2020UK1h ago

Whilst it's an overreaction to say this has "ruined" the game, it's still problematic that this has happened post launch and for many, post-purchase.

I don't want someone to change a product for the worse after I've bought it. The same goes for implementing micro transactions after reviews.

I wonder why they did this? Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

maykhausonninh1h ago

Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

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Final Fantasy III Pixel Remaster Review – You Are Your Job, Apparently

Gary Green said: In a time where an enhanced, 3D remake of Final Fantasy III already exists, it’s hard to argue that Final Fantasy III Pixel Remaster is the definitive version we were expecting. With Final Fantasy III already being the last in the series to be translated and make its way west, this is something of a slap in the face for the fans. Still, let’s not be disheartened. There may be many shortfalls in this edition of Final Fantasy III, however there’s no denying that this classic JRPG still holds some nostalgic value, even if it struggles to break away from its original hardware limitations.

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FACTUAL evidence6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

It’s funny I’m seeing these articles about pixel remaster, and I just platinumed 1-4 within 8 days lol. I’ve been on FF5 for about a week now. Let’s just say 5 was the start of FF having content like crazy. I should have the plat within 2-3 days.

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