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Amazon ad proof that Microsoft is paying publishers to advertise games as Xbox One titles?

An unsubstantiated rumor by a trusted member of the NeoGAF gaming community mentioned Microsoft was paying big bucks to get publishers to show their titles as Xbox One games. If this Amazon ad is anything to go by, there's a chance that that rumor is not far off the mark.

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GamersHeaven3969d ago

They did this generation too didn't get them that far.

US8F3969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

Not surprised really, since most of the people like to be told what to think these days. I mean a herd of sheep can only be treated that way

I hope this console fails BIG. and if it doesn't blame yourselves when the shit hits the fan.

xHeavYx3969d ago

MS can pay as much as they want, what good has it done to them in the past? I know Playstation will give me quality games

JokesOnYou3969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

lmfao, proof? bwahaha you guys cant be serious, so now micro isnt allowed to advertise? So all those past ps3 amazon ads are called what?= Just a business deal. lol, What are you guys afraid of?

papashango3969d ago

wtf happened to Neogaf. When did it become so....

ZombieNinjaPanda3969d ago

But there is Playstation 4 and The Last of Us right there at the bottom too.

Army_of_Darkness3969d ago

All companies have these ads, the only difference is that MS goes to the extreme to make us think 3rd party games are only available on their console and I'm sure we all expected that anyways...
Live gameplay demos is what I'm gonna be looking for.

EVILDEAD3603969d ago

Both MS and Sony do it.

At the PS Reveal, there were games you never knew were on other consoles.

On stage, Sony did a good job in the regard with Diablo 3.

Last year, the TV ads for Assassin's Creed 3 took the same approach MS does with Call of Duty, as the game 'appeared' to be exclusive to the PS3.

At the end of the day, COD games is the biggest game on the PS3 as it is on the 360, and Assassin's creed 3 sold well on the PS3.

Evil

Tee7soo3969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

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Ritsujun3969d ago

JokesOnYou's joking on herself.

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The Meerkat3969d ago

They took 50% market share away from Sony. It DID work.
I don't agree with the tactic and I absolutely disagree with the direction they are taking now but you can't deny the effectiveness on the casual gamer.

MonkeyNinja3969d ago

"They took 50% market share away from Sony."

But remember that
- PS3 launched 1yr or later than Xbox 360
- PS3 launched at $100-$200 more than competition
- 3rd party games ran like crap on PS3 for long time
- (rumor) Microsoft added refurbished RROD consoles to overall sales, bumping up their numbers
- Microsoft spent TONS of $ on ads, timed exclusives, and PR

In other words, Sony screwed up and practically handed Microsoft this gen on a silver platter, but still came out on top in the end.

Qrphe3969d ago

>50% of the marketshare

It's like people want to forget about the Wii

B-radical3969d ago

agreed and to people who say ps3 released 1 year later who cares xbox had to build its name from 1 console before the 360 sheesh

Rainstorm813969d ago

@radical

It didnt hurt the PS1 or PS2...and looking at the path MS is going down they will never have a gaming console as successful as either of those

wiz71913969d ago

@MonkeyBootey Yeah but it took the a whole generation though it took them years to catch up.

Oh_Yeah3969d ago

@MonkeyBootey "(rumor) Microsoft added refurbished RROD consoles to overall sales, bumping up their numbers"

That's not a rumor that's a fact, as soon as consoles are shipped to retailer it's counted as sold...so obviously they had padded numbers, I estimate around 20 million... I know some people who have had 5! 360's this gen.

Hicken3969d ago

I could be wrong- I'm not- but I don't recall that the PS2 was at its current sales at 7 years old.

So, no, they DIDN'T steal 50% market share.

GrandTheftZamboni3969d ago

They took 50% market share away from PC.

ChrisW3969d ago

Both PS3 and Xbox360 have approx 77 million consoles sold. That's about half of the PS2's total sales. So, in a way, MS did take 50% of the market share for hardware. As for software... Well, that's a different story.

Ritsujun3969d ago

LOL @ ChrisW's kindergarten logic.

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fermcr3969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

"Amazon ad proof that Microsoft is paying publishers to advertise games as Xbox One titles?"

So ?

Don't particularly like Microsoft, but lately they are getting all kind of crap from gaming "journalists". A lot of stupid and pointless articles. Do you expect Microsoft to pay Amazon to advertise a game and say it's on the PS4 and X1 ?

Sony does the same thing where i live. I've seen advertisements of FIFA on the TV, and they say it's a PS3 game (no mention of other platforms). Where is the article bashing Sony ?

US8F3969d ago

@fermcr, Prove it!? your full of it and you know that. I have never seen it or xbox either other than exclusives. What I have seen is the type of consoles it would be on at the end of the trailer. I swear these Microsoft fanboys going around calling us fanboys when we reason with them.

fermcr3969d ago

@US8F
"Prove it!? your full of it and you know that."

Let's see if you are man enough to apologize!

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

FIFA ad that only mentions the playstation platforms.

green3969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

He is right. I don't understand what the problem is here because it is standard industry practice.

In the UK, i have seen adverts for Assassins Creed, Battlefield 4 and FIFA that only made mention of the PS3.

EDIT: I can see that fermcr has already backed up his claim.

US8F3969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

@fermcr I did not see this on my tv but you proving it makes me wrong. So i appologize for calling you a fanboy. Sorry, I have been attacking fanboys for a long time, I over reacted + bubble for the proof

vega2753969d ago

http://www.youtube.com/watc... fifa

http://www.youtube.com/watc... assassin's creed

http://www.youtube.com/watc... frycry

now there's your proof that sony also does the same yet don't get half the flak MS does for what's call business.

RM-TatoTiburon3969d ago

@US8F buddy i invite you to see the Fifa 13 ads in europe

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

and i want you to tell me if you can see any xbox logo or even the controller.

Sony does it too or do you think EA made this ad for free?

You have to understand that sony as microsoft it's a company who works for money no for you

US8F3969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

@vega @RM Ok guys I admit I was out of places, and over reacted. I hate fanboys and seeing it everywhere made me be blinded on who is genuine and who isn't.

Again Sorry Fermcr

JokesOnYou3969d ago

US8F, as much as I dont like your attitude I still respect anyone who can man up and apologize.

Why o why3969d ago

Ha ha.....games makes us bond like nothing else..ha ha. Nice 1 guys

duckmysick3969d ago

The CONSOLE WAR IS IN FULL EFFECT BITCHES!!! LOL...bro's and soldiers of (console) war! Only half the battle has commenced.. Sony's is around 8'o clock. I personally didn't feel M$ E3 as much as some guys on here....BUT IF YOU THINK FOR FUCKIN SECOND THAT BOMBS WON'T BE DROPPED AT SONYS PRESSER..THEN YOU ARE FOOLISH!! p.s theres nothing wrong with being a fanboy..stand up for what you believe in!

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Godmars2903969d ago

Worldwide. Was another matter in the US.

And all they seem focused on is the US. In all three generations they've been gaming, no matter what they've said or done.

ThatCanadianGuy5143969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

I'll just leave this here.
http://n4g.com/news/1275859...

#teamCboat

DragonKnight3969d ago

now we know what to look for.

stuna13969d ago

But this could also give substance to the fact of why Amazon is saying XBone pre-orders are supposedly higher than the PS4's

malokevi3969d ago

Microsoft payed money for ads? OMFG WHAT IS THE WORLD COMING TO WHEN A CORPORATION CAN USE THEIR ASSETS TO PROMOTE THEIR PRODUCT!?!

stuna13969d ago

I think the difference is here we're talking about the biggest gaming event in the country! Running a 30 second tv spot is really not comparable IMO!

Stage presence trumps air time every time!

If someone step on stage for a product unveiling, it kind of gives the impression that they are actively supporting the product!

People tend to gravitate toward the product that more support is shown for! In the case of Microsoft I definately don't think that's a good idea.

malokevi3969d ago

@stuna

So... what's the problem^ If thats the case, then MS is doing exactly what it should be doing... putting its assets to work.

Putting its money where its mouth is.

1b in games, endless cash spent on whooing developers... seems like Sony will have its work cut out for them.

feeter3969d ago

@ stuna1 so I guess Destiny is only coming out for PS4 since Bungie was at the PS4 reveal... So Sony should get as much flack as M$... maybe not as big as E3 but similar... all companies do this bs

nosferatuzodd3969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

thats microsoft going down kicking and screaming and trying too take sony and nintendo with it thats the reason why i hate them so much

killacal133969d ago

Who cares if they buy what ever advertisement space they want, I never buy out off seeing a regular advertisement, I always look 4 the best product, informing myself before I make a choice, like it's supposed to be done, therefore PS4 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

daedra3969d ago

didnt get them that far? microsoft didnt pay for nothing last gen in these terms and yet they came out first place

Jazz41083969d ago

Who gives a crap what ms spends there money on when it comes to advertising. I only care about the one billion spent on exclusive games. Not being a fanboy here but I dont believe sony could even afford one billion just ont exclusives right now. Correct me if im wrong please.

titletownrelo3969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

there should be "rules" for E3, lol. Only exclusives allowed for SONY and M$, let third party developers display their games on the platform of their choosing.

Flames763969d ago

When you look at the PS3 loss of over 5 billion and the Xbox 360 bringing in billions of profit since september 07 looks like it did well for them.They both have shipped over 80 million consoles worldwide.The Xbox 360 owns america where 60% of the gaming market is.Yea you may want to get them facts straight

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Rearden3969d ago

Microsoft is resulting to all sorts of shady tactics now.

yugovega3969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

i've seen this from sony as well when some multiplatform games commercial is on and at the end you see ps3. it's business and if it lets people know it's on your system then there should be no issue.

@rdneoz3
granted it seems bad but it's the developers that are agreeing to it, and the developes are making the business choice so if it works then why be mad at the one giving the money? just like the doritos king. everyone still loves doritos but call him he sellout. think about it.

rdgneoz33969d ago

There's a difference between paying to have your name highlighted in an ad for a game, versus paying a pub to not bring the competition's version of the game to a gaming expo.

"The rumors are that PS4 versions of multiplats, by those who do take the money, won’t be shown AT ALL. Not on stage and not on the show floor."

Hopefully its not true at all.

Godmars2903969d ago

Except MS has repeatedly been know to do so more. FFXIII, when the game still sold more on the PS3, is perfect example of such even though it failed.

Death3969d ago

If Microsoft is paying for the ad, it will be for the Microsoft platform only. If the publisher is paying for the ad, it is for all platforms. Sony is just as capable of helping their publishing partners out. Advertising sells games.

Raoh3969d ago

"Microsoft is resulting to all sorts of shady tactics now."

What do you mean now? I always wondered why people never noticed that this is how MS gets down. This has been the case since as far back as I can remember in the days of windows 3.1.1 transition to Windows 95 and currently to date.

This is not a new MS this has always been MS.

greenpowerz3969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

I have proof MSFT has a brainwashing machine programed to make retailers and developers to block out PS4. Whenever PS4 is shown people see nothing and hear nothing when it's mentioned.

Neogaf isn't allowed as a source for the millionth time already.

mario193969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

Downgrade all of his bubbles before the big stories come out. This guys bull**** is on par with Microsoft PR

yugovega3969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

why is his opinion less important then yours?

edit: just because he supports msft in all his posts doesn't mean that isn't his real opinion. most the people on this site defend sony with every word they type am i to believe they all work for sony? like everyone calling polygon and msft troll reviewer and they were paid off by msft? some of what he says does make sense without fanboy glasses. since i hve been on this site i see alot of conspiracy theories from sony fans and i really don't see it. then again there are those people who steal think 9/11 was an inside job too.

MonkeyNinja3969d ago

@ yugovega

Obviously you haven't been on this site long. He is either an extremely dedicated troll or works for Microsoft PR.

http://www.cinemablend.com/...

mario193969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

Opinion? Lol have you seen his comment history?

JokesOnYou3969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

yugovega....because he's a self conscious sonyfanboy who's threatened by anyone who disagrees with him.

I agree he might be over the top but no more so than about 500 other sonyfanboys yet you dont see them asking anyone to censor their comments.

greenpowerz3969d ago

Breaking news. My same sources from Neogaf state that this brainwashing machine also has a mode that renders Sony helpless. It is said it will make Sony powerless to advertise their own products and make their own deals or book Streaming or TV for their presser etc.

The game Destiny reveal was a glitch, it worked its magic for Sony but was suppose to work for MSFT.

mario193969d ago

-1 Bubble again on greenpowerz

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brave27heart3969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

How did green "One bubble" powerz get all those bubbles? The mans been downgraded more times than anyone on this site.

On topic what MS is doing is simply called business. Might sound underhand or shady but dont blame them, it clearly works.

Now planting people in the audience to cheer your press conference, thats worse in my opinion.

wenaldy3969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

Dont you love all these rumors, smug? It came from Neog*f..!!

I just rephrase on what tetsuhana (scroll down) mentioned to us already.

1. Confirmed Microsoft is actively attempting to get developers to not mention PS4 versions. If they don't say "OUR GAME IS EXCLUSIVE FOR XBONE" expect a PS4 version. #truthfact

2. More DRM messaging at Gamescom. There is no rental strategy. Try to sweep it under the rug and hope people don't remember.

3. Cloud power was designed as DRM. Period. DRM was Microsoft's idea. EA and Ubisoft are supporters, Activision slightly less so.

4. DRM plans are actually worse than what they've stated.

5. Mirror's Edge 2 at MS conference.

6. Prince of Persia (reboot?) at MS conference.

7. Secret Phil Spencer game = World of Tanks

8. Live paywall still there.

9. Dead Rising 3, and exclusive DLC for another Capcom game at MS conference.

10. No online paywall for PS4. Unconfirmed.

11. No DRM info for PS4.

Redempteur3969d ago

"Neogaf isn't allowed as a source for the millionth time already. "

Thanks for the laugh..

You do know that many web-magazines are just Using GAF as a source of their news since god knows when ?

SpideySpeakz3969d ago

XBL Gold is required, also. No more XBL silver

M-M3969d ago

This is why you don't give greenpowerz more bubbles, now his posts are even more delusional than before.

KwietStorm_BLM3969d ago

Why are you so anxious to lose all your bubbles again? What is your real purpose on this site?

kingPoS3969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

Now it's time to prop that shield of your up and deflect.

Deflect I say... [reloads laser rifle and takes aim]

DEFLECT!!! [Pew! pew pew.]

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Wizziokid3969d ago

Of course MS are going to do moves like this, it's how business works, Sony just need to counter them

Mikelarry3969d ago (Edited 3969d ago )

seems amazon has taken the page now

edit: op link is what does not work. link below

http://www.amazon.com/b/ref...

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Tomb Raider Remastered just quietly censored one in-game detail

Tomb Raider 1-3 Remastered players are ticked off by the game’s most recent patch, which censors in-game pin-up posters of Lara Croft.

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rlow15h ago

This is why gaming is screwed. When people change things to fit someone’s agenda, it’s a slippery slope downhill.

Christopher4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Even if that agenda is of the developer? Way to remove developer rights.

***One player called it a “huge problem with modern games,” saying they can now be “ruined AFTER people buy them”.***

The level of drama. Yes, I recall sitting there for more hours than I did anything else in the game. These two pinups are the core of the game, after all!

coolbeans3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

rlow1's cringe catastrophizing aside, I do think developers *ought* to strive to maintain an original work to the best of their ability. The language of a "remaster" tacitly implies that - for good or ill - what's being resold is what fans remember but better.

Profchaos3h ago

Games can be ruined after purchasing them yeah we know this not from this but from GTA IV which had half it's radio content patched out due to licensing expirations and to me that was a huge deal.

This pin up poster is a bit of nonsense but the whole argument of modern games can be ruined post launch is Absol true.

DedicatedDark2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

It's not their work to censor. They are incharge of restoration & remastering the work, not overwriting it.

Barlos1h ago

It's not the agenda of the developer though, they're pandering and trying to increase their ESG score.

Way to support censorship...

victorMaje1h ago

It’s not the end of the world for sure, but I understand the hate towards this kind of change. I believe it’s also a matter of principle.

Imagine a Picasso painting being restored & the restorer deciding there aren’t enough strokes, or some lines aren’t straight enough or curved enough…not sure it would/should sit well with people.

Have all original devs signed off on this change? Even if it’s the case, are we saying older gamers are better mentally equipped to process what was there than current gamers, hence the change?

Enough time ago the case was made that games are an art form. We’re supposed to have won that case.
So which is it? Are games art or not?

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Eidolon1h ago

Hasn't this been happened for over a decade since remasters? I can't see that it's any worse now. Maybe if Sweet Baby starts getting their hands on remasters we will definitely have a problem.

Rebel_Scum4h ago

tbh I dont see something like this as censorship. Does anyone else not find it strange for someone to stick pin ups of themsleves in a locker room?

Now of it was a pin up of some half naked firefighters it might make sense as Lara might like that, and if they removed that I would cry censorship. But removing pin ups of the main character, yeah I get it.

Barlos1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

It's a game, and they were placed there for the audience. It's not real life. If it was, she wouldn't have fought a T-Rex now would she?

Yes, it's censorship but it's a bit less in your face. If they were in the original game, then they should have been in the remasters. It's bad enough that they have that ridiculous unnecessary warning at the start, but then they start removing things post launch. I don't care how small the change, they shouldn't be doing it. It's nothing but ESG pandering but in a subtle way.

SimpleDad38m ago

By the year 2030, this remaster collection will totally be changed and censored. Probably will remove Lara as a playable character. It's ridiculous. Glad that my family didn't buy this.
I still have Tomb Raider 2 PS1 as a memory.

CobraKai7m ago

It’s mentioned in the article, and it’s a point i 100% agree with, it’s the fact that they can censor a game after you buy it. That’s total bullshit.

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Final Fantasy III Pixel Remaster Review – You Are Your Job, Apparently

Gary Green said: In a time where an enhanced, 3D remake of Final Fantasy III already exists, it’s hard to argue that Final Fantasy III Pixel Remaster is the definitive version we were expecting. With Final Fantasy III already being the last in the series to be translated and make its way west, this is something of a slap in the face for the fans. Still, let’s not be disheartened. There may be many shortfalls in this edition of Final Fantasy III, however there’s no denying that this classic JRPG still holds some nostalgic value, even if it struggles to break away from its original hardware limitations.

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FACTUAL evidence5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

It’s funny I’m seeing these articles about pixel remaster, and I just platinumed 1-4 within 8 days lol. I’ve been on FF5 for about a week now. Let’s just say 5 was the start of FF having content like crazy. I should have the plat within 2-3 days.

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Warframe's Protea Prime Access launches on all platforms on May 1st, 2024

"Digital Extremes are today very happy and proud to announce that Warframe’s next highlightly anticipated Prime form launches soon with Protea Prime Access arriving on all platforms on May 1st, 2024." - Digital Extremes.