PS4 Is 'Incredible To Develop For'

Warframe is coming to PS4, and the developer is really very happy with the console...

[mrmancs]

Yeahhhh haaaaa baby , great news , especially since I just pre ordered my ps4!!! :-)

[TimmyShire]

Waiting to see the prices before I pre-order, but I probably will go PS4. Everyone is saying how great the PS4 is to develop for...

[amiga-man]

A well thought out design with ease of development a huge focus that will really reap huge dividends as far as software support goes, as long as online remains free with no DRM then I will certainly be buying one.

[sengoku]

Wow all PS4 news is good news.
glad i pre-orderer back in march

[abzdine]

Greatness awaits guys!! Greatness awaits!!

EDIT: i saw the video and the game looks pretty cool! and one more PS4 exclusive, one more!

[PLASTICA-MAN]

I hope they will shift for UE4 on PS4. Not any number 3 on PS4.

Edit: I find this, looking like Warframe, and its graphics more appropriated for a next-gen PS4 than the UE3 of Warframe:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[miyamoto]

The PS4 is designed by a successful western and japanese game s designer/programmer/console hardware expert and consultant/industry veteran/ arcade game creator at 16 years old who knows how to make hit games/Naughty Dog collaborator/author of the Cerny method of game production....etc etc

So yeah PS4 is created by a a one man gaming genius. The modern Leonardo Da Vinci.
Get ready for an industrial wide revolution. Gaming Renaissance is coming come fall 2013.

PS4 is so powerful it will destroy the immense amount of.negative energy surrounding the industry and replace it with positive and good energy and it will be a generation of industrial peace, prosperity, productivity and progress hence the name PS4 - Positive 4 - the name you can trust this generation.

[thechosenone]

Sony is crushing it. I love this new and improved Sony. :)

"For now it seems likely that Warframe will remain exclusively on PS4, too, likely tying into Sony's freedom when it comes to publishers, whereas Microsoft requires a publisher to have a game on its Xbox platform."

[Bigpappy]

undeniably good press for PS4. Looks like a nice game pickup.

[titletownrelo]

all this great PS4 news
my reaction: buuuuuurrrrnnnnnnn Micro$oft!!!

[SpideySpeakz]

Hopeful I could save up the money to get it. If the price is below $500, I'll get two..

[ABizzel1]

I say $399 - $449, as proven by other members AMD 7000 series GPU PC's are getting cheaper when only considering parts needed to run the PC, and the PS4 fits that mold.

For $550 - $600 consumer cost you can build a PC similar to the PS4. And since Sony's literally buying million of these parts they should be getting anywhere from 20% - 50% off retail prices.

[Blackdeath_663]

a $600 pc with similar parts to ps4? i don't think that is possible unless you buy a really cheap CPU like a core i3 or amd bulldozer Fx-series but if you do that you will bottle-neck the performance of the video card. the pc version of the HD7850 that is likely to power the ps4 as far as i am aware is the best value video card in terms of price/performance but it will still take a large chunk or your budget around $180. add to that the increasing price of RAM for pc's because most of it is being used in other industries i just don't see it happening. you will also have to skimp out on other parts like getting a cheap case and a cheap psu you will probably end up with a bad machine. close to $1000-$900 i would say *including extra costs like mouse+keyboard oh and the worst part is? that is without OS windows 7 is like another $117 assuming you are doing everything legit

[ABizzel1]

@black

We proved in a previous thread that it's possibly to build a PC that's on par with the PS4 for slightly above $600.

All shopping must be done online with sites like Newegg and TigerDirect, but it's possible.

Specs were:

Intel Core i5 CPU
HD 7870 GHz GPU
8GB DDR3 RAM
1TB HDD
Motherboard
PC case
Power Supply
Cooling for CPU

All came up to around $650. A cheaper Motherboard, Case, Power Supply, and cooling could lower the price, but the range was $550 - $650 if you know how to buil it yourself.

If you're paying $900 - $1,000 then you're getting screwed over or buying the PC pre-built.

[d0nT wOrrY]

Already got money saved up for this beast. Cannot wait to see it first at E3 ;)

[Honest_gamer]

i guess the xbox fans will be saying "ugh ps4 is to easy to develop for" now instead of to hard lol

[Hanso]

lol

[Why o why]

"Don't call it a comeback, I've been here for years"

[elhebbo16]

you're talking about the remaining xbox fans right? because after the X1 reveal im sure more than half the fans jumped ships.

[Honest_gamer]

dont say that they might be more than happy watching tv, doing more watching tv, and if they are lucky can do more tv :) /s

[vigilante_man]

You can still love your 360 and get a PS4!!

[TheBrit]

who really cares? So childish.

It's a console, not a cure for cancer. The Xbox one, just like all other Xbox's is just as easy to develop for. The reason these guys are all coming out and saying this is because they have not been used to this ease of use when it comes to the play station brand because Sony always made things so difficult.

[TheFirstClassic]

Well Sony making things difficult has only been for one generation, the ps2 and ps1 were developer friendly, so no sony has not always made things difficult. Ps4 will be better to develop for though, not only because of the way it is structured, but also because it gives devs access to a good bit more ram than the xbox one.

[TheBrit]

yeah, depending on how they FINALLY decide to divvy up that ram it should for sure. And I totally agree they definitely made things easier this time around, especially for porting to/from p.c games - hopefully their ports will be much better represented this gen.

The arguments between the two systems really is silly though. I bet there are people well into their late teens and older on here arguing like 8 year old kids on a playground - pretty sad when you look back at it.

A consoles a console. They will both be pretty similar but with their own uniqueness that makes them an Xbox or a play station. seeing daily rants slamming each one is just nuts.

[VaporCell]

@thebrit Avalanche studios already shared that ps4 has more mature an better DEV tools than xbox 1

[TheBrit]

@VaporCell yeah I know, but as they said, that's just temporary and the Xbox one will catch up because they are very good in that area.

The dev kits they had for the 360 were raved about also, the software tools etc.

Definitely going to be a back and fourth thing throughout this generations life span.

[ABizzel1]

All I can say is congratulations Sony. This is how you launch a new console and turn prior misfortunes around.

[level 360]

Will be waiting for which retail store brings out the best deal on offer for PS4 before putting my money down.

I'm quite certain a couple of shops out there are going to go bonkers just to bring in customers.

Great to hear/read about a lot of positive vibes from game devs about PS4.

[Honest_gamer]

allot of UK companies have recently faced bankruptcy so im sure some of them will do highly competitive deals to try and get the online sale's or atleast i would hope so :/

[Fishy Fingers]

One of the more enjoyable F2P games out there, good level of content and great presentation. I'm sure like any other you get to a point where micro transactions become a necessity to progress without pulling your hair out.

[KingPin]

hmmm, does this mean the console will be maxed out in couple of months?
im not bashing it, im just curious. will devs be able to squeeze as much out of it as they possibly can now that they wont be struggling with programming from the start.

[Why o why]

Not that quickly. Use xbox 360 games as a barometer gen start to now. Good start from gears 1 but never made a massive jump by gen end. No discredit to gears though. When I first saw that game in motion I knew I'd arrived in the 'next gen'....I was oresmacked. Games improved but that had a lot to do with talent. I believe naughty god, santa monica et el would do very well on the 360 compared to the devs they currently have at their disposal

[joeorc]

"hmmm, does this mean the console will be maxed out in couple of months?"

That is a really good Question, And one Mark Cerny went over with in this interview.

"Many of the teams take about five years to develop a game. As a result, they need a stable specification during that period and that is what a console provides, ie about one hundred million devices that share the same basic specification.

The console also tends to have higher performance than would be expected by the cost due to a lightweight operating system and the fact that developers enjoy many years to study the specific architecture. Regarding the performance issue in the context of Moore’s Law, our strategy has been to create a console with a number of features for the short term and others for the long term. We have a family basic feature set that allows a wide range of games at launch, and we’ve done a great job of matching the GPU that we believe will allow the system to grow over the years.

To give just one example, we have adapted the ‘hardware’ to allow the ‘shaders’ computing are used in traditional graphics interface. This is the kind of technique that we believe will be used within three or four years of the life cycle of the console to increase the graphical quality of the games. -Cerny"

http://gengame.net/2013/06/...

[WitWolfy]

Not necessary the console, but the gaming dev engines might be maxed out in a matter of months to a year.. Remember even Kojima Productions' "Fox engine" looks next gen but is aimed for 360 and PS3.. So its all upto what the engine can do when the consoles eventually release

[MikeyDucati1]

lol everybody is taking their chance to take potshots at MS.

[Bathyj]

they make it so easy

[MysticStrummer]

There are lots of chances lately, and it's MS's own doing.

[sandman224]

I will pre order a ps4. I just hope that the third party developers treat Sony with priority so we never get a shit version of there game. I don't want to play a bad version of call of duty ever again on a playstation.

[Honest_gamer]

can you PLEASE point me in the direction of where these "good" cods are coming from? as i have played them on xbox, ps3 and pc and i can tell you, i have yet to find a good cod since mw

[jaredhart]

Sony has marketed the PS4 perfectly so far. Let's hope it continues.

[WitWolfy]

De ja vu!!! Im sure every other Dev said the same thing about the Wii U too before it released.

Choo choo!!! Everybody aboard the hype train!!!

[MasterCornholio]

""It is awesome, and I don’t want to speak disparagingly about any existing or prior platforms, but we showed Warframe for the first time to our entire studio, and everyone had their jaws on the floor, how 1080p, silky smooth and beautiful it was."

Sounds good to me

Oh and for some odd reason the PS4 is getting a ton of FTP games.

1. Warframe
2. Planet Side 2 (SCE said they had a FTP game for the PS4 and this will probably be it)
3. Black Light Retribution
4. War Thunder

"For now it seems likely that Warframe will remain exclusively on PS4, too, likely tying into Sony's freedom when it comes to publishers, whereas Microsoft requires a publisher to have a game on its Xbox platform."

This is why i love the freedom that Sony gives their developers.

[PANTHER1030]

Planetside 2 would be AMAZING at PS4.

[IcicleTrepan]

I am excited to see more information on Deep Down. I play a lot of RPGs and I'm hoping there will be at least one in the launch window. I like both systems and it's always good to hear good news like this.

[cleft5]

Love me some Warframe, it kind of runs a little slow on my laptop so this is a big deal for me.

[gazgriff2k12]

LOL the 1080 penis of it.

[Thomaticus]

I haven't seen any develops say anything about their experience developing on the x1.

[PANTHER1030]

Mark Cerny is a genius. The Ps4 is powerfull and easy for develop games, not only big companies could launch games at the new system, too small companies can easily port theirs PC versions at PS4 and most of these games are Free to play. The PS4 also doesnt requires DRM's stupid restrictions and can be played offline, only waiting for the price.

First day for me!

[vigilante_man]

Up to now, despite the more powerful CPU/GPU of modern PCs, the best crafted and optimised games have been on consoles. Its easier to max a system when you know its specific hardware.

But a strange thing may happen with the PS4 being such a gaming beast and adopting a PC-like architecture.

We may get more PC developed games. And even more new PC games actually being ported to the PS4. With Sony's developer focus we may get an exciting explosion of games from all areas.

I sense a new-found friendship between game developers on all platforms emerging.

[S2Killinit]

wow the graphics are good, I figured since its free that it would be shitty graphics but no, it looks awesome.

[reko]

great news

[hellvaguy]

Of course it is, they ditched the cell cpu. Also a lot of the reason why we see a $399 price (8 years later mind you, even slightly cheaper with inflation), instead of a $599 price. ftw!