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Sony WWS President Trolls Everyone

For the past few days, passionate PlayStation fans have been waging a campaign to convince Sony not to restrict used games on the PS4.

This morning, Sony Worldwide Studios president Shuhei Yoshida, one of the few Sony execs who is active on Twitter and hasn't addressed the campaign yet, responded in the best way possible: by trolling everyone.

sherimae24133978d ago

yeah they want to bring "DRM" to ps vita....
im not gonna oppose with that ^_^

blackbeld3978d ago

Hahaha.

Sony is going for another WIN!

abzdine3977d ago

i love Yoshida! this guy is great! well done

irepbtown3977d ago

I'll be all over that DRM.

daedra3977d ago (Edited 3977d ago )

another win? they didn't "win" anything last gen.

TheGreenMan3977d ago

@Daedra

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't a few Sony exclusives "win" GOTY? That's what game consoles are supposed to do - produce great games, right? Or is it all about the number consoles sold or market share?

I'll go ahead and clear it up for you by beating a dead horse - gamers play games NOT sales.

zeroskie3977d ago

@daedra, you shut your filthy mouth.

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TheTwelve3978d ago

Death Ray Manta would normally get no press but now I bet it sells quite a bit!

Maddens Raiders3977d ago

I wonder if Shuhei Yoshida's wallet says, "Bad motherfu**er" on it. Dude is a stone cold player.

harkki863977d ago

this game looks pretty cool! hahah i know they were trolling but it made me check out the game. i do love arcade games. too bad arcades arent around any more :(

SHORYUKEN3977d ago (Edited 3977d ago )

Yep,

Lucky I still have the real arcade machine with Street Figther Alpha in my living room. That thing is huge with the monitor.

It's €0,50 cent one match :)

I still enjoy it more than SF4 on PS3. Real Arcade nothing beats that!

mxrider21993977d ago

there are a few just mostly in movie theaters or laser tag or bowling alley places

showtimefolks3977d ago

lol world wide studios president trolling lol

ps4 won't have DRM, not after all the executives on Twitter basically supported their fans and said they hear us loud and clear

something i copy from neogaf

"Tretton: And here is..."
-- pause --
"Tretton: Is the disc not in the console?"
-- Yoshida runs on stage and hands Tretton a disc --
"Tretton: Is this my copy?"
"Yoshida: Nope, it's mine!"
"Tretton: Oh, ok thanks!"
-- Tretton inserts disc into the PS4, game starts --
"Tretton: Shall we continue?"

-- FINAL FANTASY XV --

and the whole internet will be explore

adorie3977d ago

Very nice Scenario. SquareEnix Logo appears and Nomura walks out on stage with translator.

Metfanant3977d ago

i do have to admit...if this actually happened it would just be icing on the cake for Sony...it would be the PERFECT way to start their E3 presser...

stragomccloud3977d ago

I have to wonder though, if they were always thinking of their fans. Why did they even try to put forth DRM to begin with? Good thing Sony is at least being open. I wonder how EA will react on this one.

showtimefolks3977d ago (Edited 3977d ago )

stragomccloud

yeh that's the dark horse EA, no wonder why they dropped the online passes because why charge only $10 when you can charge full price again and again

i think in a way we should be glad sony announced ps4 first, in a way it kind of forced MS's hand so all the rumors were true and that games were 6 months behind schedule

DRM
Used games prices
must be connected to kinect 2

anyone know the major differnce between GDDR5 that ps4 has and DDR3 which xbox one has along with most pc's?

PiTCHBLaCK3977d ago

DDR3 is bought off the shelf, GDDR5 is leaps ahead of that, 8GB GDDR5 cannot even be bought off the shelf yet.

GDDR5 = Ferrari
DDR3 = Pinto

BISHOP-BRASIL3977d ago (Edited 3977d ago )

@showtimefolks

Basically GDDR5 advantage is that it has higher bandwidth and runs in lower voltage, while DDR have lower latency in its favor.

PCs use both DDR3 (as system memory) and GDDR5 (as VRAM, integrated with the GPU), for their different characteristics, trying to get the best performance possible. How this compare to next gen consoles is a bit tricky though...

Next gen consoles will use shared memory like current ones, but this time around they don't have really separated CPU and GPU processors but an APU instead... Actually, by definition, WiiU GPGPU is a kind of APU and PS3 used Cell (an APU) combined with a dedicated GPU. But this time what we have is dedicated CPU and dedicated GPU combined on the same die. Righly different from traditional PC architecture and what we have already seen on consoles... PC (much) probably will still have the upper hand (as it uses both to either advantage, although the split memory can create a bottleneck, everything there is upgradable, so it's not really a concern), but to pinpoint which system will be more efficient with its RAM is highly debatable.

Even as far as games on those consoles go, is yet to be seen what will benefit the unified processor more, high bandwidth or low latency. In theory lower latency will be specially important for multitasking and CPU heavily operations, while higher bandwidth is better for pure graphical power, so graphically Sony may have the upper hand, but AI may be better on MS's console for example... But this is only hypotethical for now, as APUs may make up for the latency problem by being on the same die (which would help Sony) or games may be programmed to run some usual GPU aplications on CPU instead (which would help MS). So it's really a wait and see scenario as of now.

Numerically, the advantage is with Sony, as the GPU part of their APU is more powerful and they have more RAM available to run apps and games (both have 8GB RAM, but Sony only uses 1GB for OS, while MS hypervisor + 2 OSes take 3GB). But if we look at what current consoles do, 5GB and Xbox One GPU may still look like enough for high quality gaming.

Also it's yet to be seen if MS can really pull that Cloud stuff (and whether Sony can't simply do the same with Gaikai, afterall the hardware on both machines is really similar, if anything, Sony have some advantage, which means it could easily be implemented through software if they have the servers).

So, to sum it up, both consoles are not just using similar architecture, they have really similar hardware in general, so it's hard to make a prediction on how far the differences in RAM alone will affect the systems considering the whole gaming APU is new territory. We can't tell for sure how far it will be noticeable and in which area would either (if any) be better.

subtenko3977d ago

That would be one of the most HILARIOUS E3 moments in HISTORY! I mean E3's arent what they used to be but man...We need a twitter campaign for Jack to do that,lol. I hoped thats a leaked script

Come on Sony! :D

HonestDragon3977d ago

That scenario would be so full of win. Just reading that made me laugh.

Dj7FairyTail3977d ago

I wont because FF is irrelevant now after XIII

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titletownrelo3977d ago

Through their upcoming ad campaign, SONY NEEDS to remind everyone that they support GAMERS. They need to remind everyone of all the amazing exclusives only available on Playstation, and that PSN is completely FREE.

Some subliminal messages trolling "XBOX ONE" at E3 would be nice as well. Take that M$.
4>1

jujubee883977d ago

URGGG! DRM RAGE!!!

Oh, nevermind. Games. Yay! ^_^

nosferatuzodd3977d ago (Edited 3977d ago )

Microsoft fans are really push overs Microsoft can bend them over any way they like and they just take it

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jcnba283978d ago

Sony just trolled all of their fans lol

joeorc3978d ago (Edited 3978d ago )

"Sony just trolled all of their fans lol "

No, Sony just trolled the gaming media on the internet, even asking if they were going to employ DRM...its like a MEME. How many ways do they have to answer it before people get the hint?

Sony clearly stated they were leaving it up to 3rd party publisher's what type of DRM to employ if any. Sony is not themselves employing it.

this is just a funny way to get back at the Media!
ooh look were bringing DRM over to the PSVita...Irony is lost on some i think!

LMAO

the Media asked Sony this how many time's? reworded ,asked over and over again in one shape or form or another. Sony's people who were interviewed gave a clear response. The Fee question never came up until after Microsoft confirmed there would be one for the xboxone, now its being asked of Sony. thats like saying for how many years now, but..but Sony must make playstation network a premium service.. PSVita has cross game chat and party chat but yet still no required pay service. Ps3 has been getting increased benefits to the network service but free to play is still here even after 7 years. but..but the next generation Sony has to charge a fee for online.

lets see if that is true..lmao 7 years the same thing has been stated, many gamer's seem to think just because Microsoft does something , Sony has to follow suit.

LostDjinn3978d ago (Edited 3978d ago )

It is kind of funny.

What "some" media outlets/sites and diehard fans are trying to do is hold Sony accountable for MSs' actions. It doesn't matter what the truth is. It's an attempt to divert attention and blame away from MS. These are the same people who were told point-blank what MS had planned by MS employees. Seems a little strange that now that advertising revenue is making its' way through to sites everything's suddenly different. Even though nothing has changed.

Look at the number of users on this site that haven't used their accounts for years ((these users are from 2006-2008)the darkest days of fanboy trolling known to N4G). They've suddenly became active in the last week or two. What a funny coincidence that is. Not to mention that these (or accounts that are days old) are the accounts attempting to use the excuse that Sony didn't deny the DRM MS has said they (MS) will implement.

Another funny thing is that after the 7 years of BS you've pointed out one thing escapes these people. It's now a diminishing return. We've put up with an entire Gen of FUD and misdirection. It's not going to work as well the second time around.

The most funny thing though, is that MSs' E3 conference is before Sonys' so they'll have to blink first or bite the bullet and come clean. Otherwise it's going to get worse.

Why o why3978d ago (Edited 3978d ago )

Despite this...some will still try and group sony with Microsoft......oh oh, because sony said they would leave it up to the developer.. . Laughable, but not surprising these 'you too' types

rainslacker3978d ago

I think it's a good sign that they aren't considering DRM, or at least not heavy DRM. They wouldn't be doing this if they were, because that would just piss a lot of people off.

I know Sony has been arrogant at times, but I don't think they would every intentionally do something to piss off it's fan base. Particularly when this is such a hot topic.

DragonKnight3978d ago

If Sony leave DRM up to the publishers to create and implement for their own games, and at the same time DO NOT implement DRM on their first party games, then Sony will have effectively put publishers like EA in a position where they have to either look like the bad guy, or let the used games situation go.

Either way, Shuhei Yoshida is an awesome exec. This troll was hilarious. I would love to see how Geoff Keighley responds to this. Imagine his "source" was telling him about this? That would be really funny.

titletownrelo3977d ago

wow
SONY: Is hilarious on Twitter and makes fans smile.
M$: "Deal With It"

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mario223978d ago

Yeah now they lose all sales. Buguguaga

bicfitness3978d ago

You clearly missed the joke. They're trolling MS and the media. The "fans" - the smart ones anyway - are taking the piss.

What is more interesting, is that this is essentially a confirmation that with few publisher expectations (EA), games and game sharing should remain relatively unchanged on PS platforms his coming gen. SCE would look ridiculous implementing Draconian DRM after taking a jibe like this. Good news for PS fans and spectacular trolling on the competition.

I don't think I've ever seen Sony so hungry for it. Should be an awesome gen.

LOL_WUT3978d ago

Looks like jcba28 is not one of those people you speak of ;)

ZBlacktt3978d ago

XBox fans wished they only got trolled. Instead, that got nightmares that came true.

thechosenone3977d ago

xBone users are getting always on/connected DRM and no used games and we're the ones getting trolled. xD

http://i.imgur.com/cUvANl4....

MazzingerZ3977d ago (Edited 3977d ago )

The difference between all 3 is that:
Nintendo executives plays their 3DS during coffe breaks, SONY's their PS Vita and look forward to get home and play on their PS3 and MSFT's drinks coffe, talks about business and look forward coming home and watch some TV.

Both Nintendo and Sony don't lose focus, they are ruled by gamers, Both have their philosophy and follow it yesterday, today and tomorrow. MSFT just used gamers as a trojan horse, they let it clear since 3 years ago...you choose, keep waiting for the E3 that will shut mouths or get a gaming console, not worth it to try to bash the ones delivering the experience for gamers.

Kojima will let clear where the gamers are at.

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Skeith3978d ago

Why Sony have so many cool people ???
LOL

JoGam3978d ago

Because they are true gamers at heart.

NarooN3977d ago

Because they're the best company, duh :P

Plagasx3977d ago

Because they're not wooden with a strict set of rules unlike Microsoft.

Kyosuke_Sanada3978d ago (Edited 3978d ago )

Would be hilarious if this was a true update did insert a random "Death Ray Manta" boss in the current game played.

When you damage it, the boss bleeds pre-owned games....

http://www.creativeuncut.co...

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Obscure_Observer355d ago

"Got that one right, Shu!"

Kind of ironic when Sony is focused on GaaS like never before.

Flakegriffin355d ago (Edited 355d ago )

Companies evolve overtime. Sony has implemented themselves in the single player space relatively well. Now they can expand further by doing more all while still giving us single player experiences. Obviously Shu is speaking on GaaS games being the main dominance of the gaming space and if that’s the future then that indeed sucks.

You can have that mindset all while still creating some GaaS titles.

InUrFoxHole355d ago

They have 10 in the works right now.

Crows90355d ago

Absolutely! Man all the freaking gaas games theyve been releasing...wait. Not a single one.

sinspirit355d ago

Did you read? It says "dominated". That word means something.

RedDevils355d ago

They don't want to be Blockbuster, too stubborn to adapt with time.

tagzskie355d ago

kinda ironic when it comes to xbox you xboys can even defeat einstein in explation why its good, when it comes to ps you guys became dumb and dumber..

FinalFantasyFanatic355d ago

How so? They're only after one or two good GaaS games, they're throwing crap at the wall until something sticks, alot of those games in development are going to languish and die shortly after release. They're still predominately focused on their core strategy of great single player games (look at the previous interview where they admit they cancel alot of games).

Bathyj355d ago

God why do Xbox gamers always love the thought of PlayStation being as crappy as Xbox.?

DarXyde355d ago

"Like never before" regarding GaaS is like saying "PS3 is a console that launched with HDD space like never before": it's a very low bar to clear because there isn't much precedent.

I happen to agree with Shu here. I don't think being a GaaS title is a scarlet letter, but I can't think of any live service games that have been great at launch either. Naughty Dog is looking likely break that trend. I'd say two love service titles at a time is the sweet spot. I suspect people can only deal with a limited number of live service games contemporaneously.

TheCaptainKuchiki355d ago (Edited 355d ago )

Lmaooo
People always criticize Sony because 90% of their exclusives are single player games. People say they are too expensive because of low replay value.
And you wanna pretend like Sony is focusing on Gaas? Their biggest games aren't Gaas unlike MICROSOFT.

ModsDoBetter354d ago (Edited 354d ago )

How are Sony focused on GaaS?

They own Bungie and have Destiny but the majority of their titles are far from GaaS.

Why, if you are such a die hard Xbot, do you rush to comment on Sony related articles?

1Victor354d ago

@obscure
Are you ok now we was worried about your mental health state when you disappeared for almost a week from bashing PlayStation articles.
Is the word DENIED still triggering you?

I haven’t read the article as my spam blocker always red flags that site and I don’t t want to risk it so a general comment it is 🤦🏿
We all know live services game and quality rarely goes together but some of them are fun to play

derek354d ago (Edited 354d ago )

@Obscure, Sony is starting from a place of zero which requires a big initial investment to establish themselves in the live services market.

Vengeance1138354d ago

It's very much the opposite, Shu said this damn well knowing Sony is going hard on GaaS. This is Shu confirming that Single player games won't be effected at all despite them going into Live service.

Extermin8or3_354d ago

Except they aren't really- they have what may be a live service game from Haven studios and firewalk studios, they have another from a second party dev and an fps game with multiplayer focus by deviation games, they counted Gt7 as a live service game but really it's not much different to how recent GT titles were treated, they have the last of us factions, a Horizon multiplayer game in production at guerilla alongside horizon 3, a new ip from Bungie. The rest of their studios seem to be hard at work on traditional singleplayer games that may also have a multiplayer mode or may not. So their live service titles are mostly in development from either new teams setup at existing studios or from acquisitions they have made which really just replace the capabilities they once had through Sony Online Entertainment until they sold it half a decade ago. Only I'd argue their new capabilities in this space would appear to be better and have higher quality talent than it did back then.

Sonic1881352d ago

And what is Xbox focused on? Redfall is so bad, it's worse than Forspoken 😂😂😂

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S2Killinit355d ago

Thank god for actual gamers in the industry.

neutralgamer1992355d ago

Shu I agree but right now Sony themselves are working on more than 5 live service games

Redemption-64355d ago

He never said they were not working on any. He said, he doesn't want to see Gaming's Future dominated by live-Service Games. Sony currently has 25 games in development. 10 being live service games, with the other mostly likely being single player games and that is honestly a very good balance

neutralgamer1992355d ago

I agree I just hope their live service games are not simple money grabs and try to do some good interesting things

-Foxtrot355d ago

"and that is honestly a very good balance"

The issue is, whether people want to admit it or not because it's Sony, but once a company gets a taste of that money GaaS games make the chances of them going money crazy becomes super higher

I know what you'll probably say

"bu bu but Sony wouldn't do that"

NO COMPANY is immune, even the best can fall and I really don't want to see that happen here.

The fact people will completely blow that off and pretend it's not even a possibility is worrying to me because that's how we end up shits creek.

They might be fine...they might go too far but at the moment I don't think it's a bad thing at all to be sceptical with the shit this industry has gone through in the past 10 years alone.

FinalFantasyFanatic355d ago (Edited 355d ago )

The thing is most of those 10 games won't even be viable, out of the 10 that actually get released, probably only 1 or 2 will make the big bucks worth continuing support. I think Sony even knows that, look at all the other GaaS games that release and die shortly after. Personally I'm okay with that because I don't want the market dominated with these games.

I'd actually rather the resources go on to making some more top-tier JRPGs, I feel like we don't get enough of those in the last couple of gens.

neutralgamer1992354d ago

Final Fantasy

But keep in mind when those games fail many of the studios are shut and there are layoffs

NotoriousWhiz354d ago

I don't want a Gaas game. I just want a new socom. A strong multi-player title with no purchases beyond the initial purchase.

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-Foxtrot355d ago

Yeah exactly what I was thinking

Not 1

Not a cheeky 2

But freaking 5

Like it’s not even a “we’ll try doing one and see how it goes”

__SteakDeck__355d ago

@-Foxtrot What do you have against live service games. I’m not a fan of live service games, but multiplayer games can be done right just look at Titanfall before EA killed it. As long as PS’s core studios keep making single player games, everything should be fine.

Redemption-64355d ago

Sony said they have 25 games in development. 10 being live service games, with the other mostly likely being single player games. They have more single player games in development

-Foxtrot355d ago

@__SteakDeck__

Urm....that they are a cancer in this industry

That the majority of them fail and the developers have then wasted years on them rather than other things.

They turn developers and publishers into thirsty little money grabbers where that big money is still not enough for them.

I could go on, defending GaaS games is not a hill to die on man, it's really not

"done right just look at Titanfall before EA killed it"

Titanfall 2 was not really a GaaS type of game compared to what we are getting now so that's a really bad example.

__SteakDeck__355d ago

@-Foxtrot Yeah it seems like you just have a hatred for multiplayer games. I’m not the biggest fan of multiplayer games, but like I said they can be done well. Also Titanfall 1 had no single player it was multiplayer only and it’s now a dead game, but it was still good. So yes that is a good example.

FinalFantasyFanatic355d ago

@_SteakDeck_,
I'm still salty about Titanfall 2, it was one of the only multi-player games I actually liked.

NotoriousWhiz354d ago

Multi-player games don't have to be Gaas games. Look at Mario Kart, Splatoon. Nintendo's games most likely don't have Gaas because they're behind the times, but this is one area where it's better to be behind the times.

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blackblades355d ago

And? They still have single player games. Domination would completely ruled with live services which Sony should know to still do single player. On a side note they should also do a few 1st party smaller games like indie or AA. By the way is indie a single A game.

Philaroni355d ago (Edited 355d ago )

To be fair, so has many other companies aka Ubisoft for example and many of them they decided to end development on. Just because something is in the works does not mean it will release if they do not feel it will pan out. ATM all of the GaaS we know of from Sony are The Last of Us Factions, and some kind of Horizon (Monster Hunter like) game. Also keep in mind, they do own Bungie, and Destiny and there new project be it Destiny 3 and there new IP will likely be that. So just that on its own is near half of what we can best assume.

Main issue with GaaS now days is that its very over saturated. Keep in mind as well Battel Royal games are GaaS by nature also, hell CoD is GaaS. Halo Infinity, ditto. Really now days unless something is an honest to god single player game only the GaaS term gets over used.

Not sure if many played it (I loved it) Gun's Up was a GaaS for a long while, it was going to shut down till some youtubers gave it a bit of new life for another half of year. We know Sony Mobile is working on things and it not shock me if some of this stuff is targeted to the mobile market.

Right now Sony's biggest weakness I'd say is MP games. With that Firewalk studio from lots of vets they just acquired its quite likely there game will have GaaS stuff as part of it, that is still years down the line. I think everyone needs to chill out some and just wait and see what comes. We have not really got a real honest GaaS from Sony before this or even last gen really... At least as we know them now days. Such a broad term now.

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Workshyskiver360d ago

A titan and a legend of the industry.

autoglope360d ago (Edited 360d ago )

Shue is great. .. He even mentioned Miazaki and Ueda,..

victorMaje360d ago

What a Legend. I salute you.

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