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Jonathan Blow Criticizes Microsoft's Claim of Increasing Servers to 300K, Calls It A Lie

Game designer of Braid and now The Witness, Jonathan Blow is not very happy with the direction Microsoft is taking with the Xbox One.

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ZodTheRipper3984d ago

This is marketing. They probably didn't even lie directly, they just said it in a way that it's more awesome than it is in fact. Like that rocket science BS lol

Enemy3984d ago (Edited 3984d ago )

Jonathan Blow calling Microsoft liars. This s*** is getting real. As if I needed another reason to skip the Xbox One. Can't wait for The Witness.

sengoku3984d ago (Edited 3984d ago )

xbone unavailing is totally unraveling.
M$ never thought in there wildest dreams it would go down this badly. devs and gamers are revolting against much of what was unveiled.

on top of that they have as good as no time before E3 to do any radical changes to there presentation.

they cant show off any new gameplay that wasn't planed long before becasue it takes dev's months of time to prepare gameplay demos.

have to add that Jonathan Blow in my book at least goes down as a dev that dears to speak up while so many have yet to voice there opinion.
i can respect that.

Blackdeath_6633984d ago (Edited 3984d ago )

indie devs have been making remarks about MS for some time now because the still haven't allowed self publishing for independently developed games like sony and nintendo so i wouldn't be surprised at all if jonathan blow goes ahead and says something else.

Cam9773984d ago

This is hilarious! Never have I seen such a self destructive reveal.

JokesOnYou3984d ago

yeah seems he's really pissed over the self publishing policy, can't blame him, but he should look on the bright side, theres plenty of money he can get from sony and nintendos platforms.

Foliage3984d ago (Edited 3984d ago )

Microsoft is once again backing on the fact that their target audience has always been individuals who do not understand technology.

This has gone further with their exit from the hardcore gaming market; into the casual Kinect area.

They can bullshit about their 300,00 instances of virtual servers; passing it off as actual 300,00 dedicated hardware that doubles up as a magical CPU and RAM that will add to a 400% boost on the internal parts of the Xbone; but in reality most people know that such a fabricated system just isn't possible.

Blow is just one of many of us developers shaking our heads at this ridiculous crap. Not only have they shut many of us out; now they are fabricating specs. Good luck working on this horseshit platform.

aGameDeveloper3984d ago

Microsoft may have been including on-demand rented servers from the likes of Amazon, in case they are needed to meet the demand.

minimur123984d ago

'the xbox is the next watercooler'

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney3984d ago

loving all the positive xbox news!! lol

DonFreezer3984d ago

If he said the same for Sony you would curse him to his death so please shut your mouth ps fanboys.

Morpheuzpr3984d ago

Hmmm green tears are so tasty!!!! Teas, I mean green... teas.

Rhythmattic3984d ago

DonFreezer

But he didnt.......

showtimefolks3984d ago

E3 for MS can't get here soon enough, these indie developers who were with xbox360 and strong supports of MS now all of the sudden see Sony and Nintendo offering self publishing and they are making the switch

I have never seen such a bad console reveal in my 20 plus years of being a gamer, I know they are suppose to talk about it a E3 but I don' think they will change a lot

used games will have a fee
xblive is still a paid service no matter how anyone spins it of being better
you will need internet connection or no games after 24hrs

Cueil3984d ago

an egotistical asshat called Microsoft liars? There has to be some kind of amusing twist when the story comes out fully.

negative3983d ago

Oh you PSbore fanboys.....

nosferatuzodd3983d ago (Edited 3983d ago )

sony and microsoft is in a rap battle, xbox one said>> sony you suck we have more money this is the year of the duck .

sony said my turn >>> sony said >>microsoft isn't it evil to live backwards check it out << live evil backwards 359 step backwards oh

Hard liquor, y’all full of DRM, remember
I tried to give Microsoft the large picture
Your Microsoft wasn’t no gamer, they're just another lost money grubber
You think it’s gangster to let a gamer love that TV more than their FPshooter
used the kineck camera to watch his son even around the corner?
Or leave your son out here alone to fend for himself, knowin that the kineck camera is government surveillance stalker,
Is your money being long worth your lifespan bein shorter? Huh? Microsoft

Zodd the immortal said >>Wow

Alexious3982d ago

Finally, someone willing to point out their lies.

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jujubee883984d ago

If people stopped talking about Xbox One tomorrow, I sincerely wouldn't miss it. :)

jujubee883984d ago

Hey, I'm serious. I've lived this long without an Xbox in my life. Xbox One becomes obsolete tomorrow?

Fine by me. Fine by me. ^^

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AsheXII3984d ago

Probably didnt lie directly? They said- Directly- They were going to have 300k servers worldwide.

Thats as direct as it gets.

kneon3984d ago

But did they say they were dedicated solely for use by XBox Live? They could just be part of their standard cloud offering, some of which is used by Xbox Live.

ltachiUchiha3984d ago (Edited 3984d ago )

They also said they expect to sell 1 billion xbox ones. That just showed me how delusional they are.

Elit3Nick3984d ago

@ltachiUchiha That comment shows how delusional you are, microsoft said a billion next-gen consoles, not just the X1...

nirwanda3984d ago

@elit3nick
They that just shows how delusional you are to beleave that.
You do relealize that when the xbone launches it will become current gen and therefore they won't ever sell any next gen consoles.

deafdani3983d ago

@Elit3Nick: you're absolutely correct. Still, I also think it's absolutely delusional to believe that it's possible to sell 1 billion next gen consoles in total.

Once sales for the PS3 and Xbox 360 have totally stopped dead in their tracks, the total of current console sales (including Wii) will amount to more than 300 million (which is already an insane number).

To expect next gen to sell more than TRIPLE numbers of what current gen sold is batshit insane, in my opinion. That's about 1/8th of the world's population! XD

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OC_MurphysLaw3984d ago

Not a lie... using Azure for their cloud...and its already a massive server farm. Blow is just a D Bag so honestly could careless if he believes its real or not.

ltachiUchiha3984d ago (Edited 3984d ago )

They charge ppl now to play on p2p servers. They have false advertising showing a multiplatform game saying, "Only on xbox 360" when you can also play it on other systems. Smh

PSVita3984d ago

@itachi- I may be wrong but I don't think I've seen any ads saying "only on xbox 360" for multi platform games. However they make it seem like that for a lot of games especially COD.

Cueil3984d ago

Blow is a DBag... 100 percent agree... people forget how he got angry at people enjoying his game for the gameplay and not for the meaning behind it

-Superman-3984d ago

Like Microsoft said: "Xbox 360 is best selling console 2 years row"

Yet he forgot to say only in USA, but worldwide it sold less than Wii and PS3

shadyiswin3984d ago

2 years in any region is a big deal,to be the largest selling region is an even bigger deal,i mean 2 years despite all those amazing ps3 exclusives all those discounted wii's and on top of a new system launch (wii u),2 years is an amazing feat,id boast and brag more if i was microsoft.

Dazzav013984d ago

Tell 360 wen it out sells ps2 and its only sold million more than ps3 so it's not that great considering it had a year head start and it makes most its sales cause every ones first two 360's broke so they rob people blind but I do like the 360 so I'm not a ps fanboy just stating the facts.

dantesparda3984d ago (Edited 3984d ago )

@shadyiswin

So if winning in one region is such a reason to brag about then by your logic, Sony should be bragging like a motherfvcker, they've been beating the 360 in every other region for well over 2 yrs now. Heck, even VGChartz has them tied worldwide, and you know vgchartz has always had the 360 ahead. So there goes 360's once 10 million consoles lead, gone and matched by PS3 in less time.

http://www.vgchartz.com/

jimbobbeers3984d ago

Correct, however the two biggest gaming markets in the world are the US & the UK, to which the 360 leads by some way. Other countries in Europe are small in comparison to the money made in the UK & US. Japan is the 3rd, to which Sony & Ninendo will forever lock out.

dantesparda3984d ago

I dont know exactly what the numbers in the US and UK are, but does it matter more that 360 is selling more in 2 countries? (even if they supposedly are the 2 biggest markets) or that its selling more worldwide? See this is the problem with "side-taking", you'll latch on to any fact to make yourself feel better. I see it everywhere (like politics for example)

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Gildarts3984d ago (Edited 3984d ago )

So avalanche studios (Just Cause) is lying to us too?

http://www.edge-online.com/...

Coming from an ACTUAL Developer not indie.

This guy is lying too,
https://twitter.com/JamesSt...
Wired is also lying. everyone is lying.

Jonathan Blows(see what i did there?) comes of as just another mad Indie Developer to me. because of no self-publsihing.

Microsoft will introduce self-publishing if enough people complain about it. I bet they are working their ass of right now.

http://arstechnica.com/gami...

forcefullpower3984d ago

Did you actually bother to read the links you just posted. they just confirm what Jonathan blow is talking about. Microsoft is bending the truth a lot.

LackTrue4K3984d ago

I can't believe that Xbox One is a all in one console, but!!!
It can't play it's old 360 games?!?

xDHAV0K24x3984d ago

Gotta move forward with the tech. Wanna play old shit keep ur old consoles. PS3 have been dicking the bc lovers for yrs!

Muerte24943984d ago

PS3 disagrees with you. I guess it pays to be an early adopter.

OC_MurphysLaw3983d ago

PS4 isn't backwards compatible either but to be fair Sony is looking to use Gaikai to offer up all those PS3 games again through their stream service... and most likely put that either behind PSN+ or just resell them again to you.

3-4-53984d ago

as long as dev's and gamers are on the same side, we as gamers win. Winning = more good games

It's like Microsoft wants us to think it's just A....yet we know B,C,D & E are involved somehow but they won't tell us everything.

Then they go blame the media for us speculating on things they themselves never cleared up.

They keep saying " so and so cleared this up earlier....but then they go on to say things that unclear it right back up again"

Ego can destroy a company. When those running the show think they are smarter than they really are, things like this happen.

xxxxx013984d ago

you have to love n4g.
went you need a good laugh n4g is here to help with you.

https://twitter.com/JamesSt...

http://www.wired.com/gadget...

dale_denton3984d ago

yeah, more severs for kinnect to spy on you is what they meant

malokevi3984d ago

Lol. I think this is the... 4th time, Johnny Blow has come out of the woodwork and lambasted Microsoft over rumours/speculation. Somebody's on the Sony payroll....

ChrisW3984d ago

The thing that's getting me here is the "x86 architecture"... which on PCs can only utilize up to 4Gbs of RAM. I'm interested to see how this'll be different for consoles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

CoLD FiRE3984d ago

You're misunderstanding this. The Xbox One and PS4 will both be 64bit. The limit you're talking about only applies to 32bit systems and even then that only applies to non-PAE modes.

Anonagrog3984d ago (Edited 3984d ago )

There's nothing special going on here. For years we've had 64-bit processors that use the x86 instruction set, but with 64-bit extensions. That's what will be inside the PS4 and XB One.

ChrisW3984d ago (Edited 3984d ago )

@Cold Fire,

What I understood was:

X86 = 32bit
X64 = 64bit

Which is why I was confused...

@dogdirt2000,

Okay, that I didn't know. I just found this via a Google search:

"x86 started out as a 16-bit instruction set for 16-bit processors (the 8086 and 8088 processors), then was extended to a 32-bit instruction set for 32-bit processors (80386 and 80486), and now has been extended to a 64-bit instruction set for 64-bit processors."

Thanks for pointing this out.

Syntax-Error3984d ago (Edited 3984d ago )

This guy is tweeting that MS is lying, but has no PROOF that it was a lie. That's a guy venting on twitter instead of finding out for himself if those numbers were fabricated. I too am pissed at the reveal because they dropped the ball, but I am not going to a cast a stone at them without knowledge. This seems like another senseless attack just to join the TREND

@Itachi-You are a complete idiot. MS never said they would sell 1 Billion units. If you read the article like an adult instead of look at the pretty pictures you would have seen the title said NEXT GENERATION CONSOLES(not just X1) WILL REACH 1 BILLION. Read next time you moron

Nocando3984d ago

Wouldn't you agree that this is going too far? It seems like a mob embellishing stories until its a wildfire of dumb.

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Queasy3984d ago

I'm sorry but Blow is coming across as increasingly unhinged with his hatred of all things Microsoft. I know he feels like he got a raw deal with Limbo but he doesn't have anything to back up this assertion. And, even if Microsoft reaches the 300k claim in part by using virtual servers...so what?

JP13693984d ago

Blow made Braid, not Limbo.

HammadTheBeast3984d ago

Virtual servers are not even close to real ones. It's a blatant lie meant for the uninformed.

Queasy3984d ago

Depends on how it is setup...which we and Blow know nothing about at this point.

ColinZeal3984d ago

Queasy:
If they were physical servers, they would´ve showed that down our throats...
That´s from 101 marketing.

caseh3984d ago

@HammadtheBeast

How do you figure that exactly? Virtual servers are no different to physical in terms of functionality as long as the host specs are sufficient.

On top of that, everyone seems to forget that MS are first and foremost an IT company...not a gaming company. They can do this sh*t with their eyes closed if needs be.

MysticStrummer3984d ago

Hammad is right. This is something MS has been talking about since at least 2008. They are virtual servers in Chicago. If you live near there, congrats. If not, it won't make much difference to you.

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3-4-53984d ago

Just because a comment is negative, doesn't mean somebody is going all Jim Kramer and spazzing out.

Negative comments can be stated while in a completely relaxed and calm state of mind.

I think he recognizes something isn't as it seems and has informed us the gamers, that we were probably mislead.

He is looking out for gaming as a whole if anything.

nix3984d ago

Braid. the game that screwed my brain. lol.

if he made Braid, i'm so looking forward to "The Witness".

TheDivine3984d ago

He's a hypocrite. He liked MS when they put him on and made him a success. Without MS he'd be just another Indy dev.

Whatever you think of MS they have made many Indy devs household names. There wouldn't be Indy sections on consoles without MS blazing the trail. They made an affordable dev tool available for 100 bucks and gave a lot of people a platform to release games on. This guy seems bitter tbh.

Hercules1893984d ago

It seems like a cool thing to hate on microsoft right now, its like when people watch the news and they feel like they know every thing there is to know about the world. Sometimes the less you know, the better you feel.

malokevi3984d ago

So true, queasy. Its getting stupid...

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Godmars2903984d ago (Edited 3984d ago )

Given MS's history of misrepresentation this wouldn't be anything new.

Edit:
So he's asserting that basically MS is trying to do a pyramid scheme? That given forced online connection the spare CPU power of systems not in full use will go towards ones which are?

In other words, if three X1s are regularly used only for TV while one is more for gaming, the spare system power of the three other consoles gets distributed to the fourth.

Sounds like what they did with online.

headblackman3984d ago (Edited 3984d ago )

what exactly did Microsoft actually misrepresent?

let's be real here. this is something that sounds a little far fetched, but with the right dollars anything is possible (which Microsoft just so happens to have). its a show me situation. not a bash it situation. bashing something before its proven to be true or false simply shows ignorance and the desire to be a fanbot. don't be a fanbot.

Godmars2903984d ago

That they're going to sink money into a 300k server farm when the actual servers will be the X1s they sell to people. That people are going to be contributing to it whether they know or want to, and then very likely will have to pay to access it.

And Kinect is just as worse: people will have to use, be measured and recorded, and MS will use that information to sell advertisers who in turn will pay MS for ads which are then targeted towards Kinect users. They make money of the deal in all forms.

Consumers may not get much out of it, but MS certainly will.

Foliage3984d ago (Edited 3984d ago )

Microsoft is counting their current Azure servers and misrepresenting them to pretend as if they are exclusive to the Xbox One. If they were using Azure; they would not have access to 80% of those servers. Even then; I'm being generous.

Next, they are fabricating the server count to suggest that they have 300,000 physical servers. In actuality; they are likely running hundreds to thousands of virtual server instances on a much more reduced amount of physical servers.

Keeping this simple; it's a marketing ploy. Anyone can create hundreds to thousands of virtual servers; then claim them as a "large amount of servers". Then after they are done with their marketing gimmick; reduce the count down to something that would actually function (that amount of virtual servers would run horribly).

It's complete smoke and mirrors; most people are not falling for it.

I'm not even going to touch on the ridiculous notion that the cloud would give a 400% performance boost. It's quite the contrary; as you would be bogged down by network speeds. Ultimately relying on the cloud would worsen your performance.

InTheLab3984d ago

"what exactly did Microsoft actually misrepresent? "
E3 2009 Kinect, Kate, and Milo. It's not like doing a bullshot or calling CG in game footage. It's flat out lying to the consumer.

Hell, there's speculation that the K2 demo at the reveal was staged.

Rusty5153984d ago (Edited 3984d ago )

Jonathan Blow is starting to sound more butthurt than nvidia...

GiantFriendlyCrab3984d ago

i would not be surprised if this is true

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How to recruit Lam in Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes

Lam is among the 120 characters available for recruitment in Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes. While she is one of the many straightforward recruits, a known bug may prevent players from recruiting her if certain conditions are met. Despite developers’ assurances of fixing the bug, some early access players still encounter issues with recruiting Lam despite attempting the standard method.

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Tomb Raider Remastered just quietly censored one in-game detail

Tomb Raider 1-3 Remastered players are ticked off by the game’s most recent patch, which censors in-game pin-up posters of Lara Croft.

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rlow19h ago

This is why gaming is screwed. When people change things to fit someone’s agenda, it’s a slippery slope downhill.

Christopher9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

Even if that agenda is of the developer? Way to remove developer rights.

***One player called it a “huge problem with modern games,” saying they can now be “ruined AFTER people buy them”.***

The level of drama. Yes, I recall sitting there for more hours than I did anything else in the game. These two pinups are the core of the game, after all!

coolbeans7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

rlow1's cringe catastrophizing aside, I do think developers *ought* to strive to maintain an original work to the best of their ability. The language of a "remaster" tacitly implies that - for good or ill - what's being resold is what fans remember but better.

Profchaos7h ago

Games can be ruined after purchasing them yeah we know this not from this but from GTA IV which had half it's radio content patched out due to licensing expirations and to me that was a huge deal.

This pin up poster is a bit of nonsense but the whole argument of modern games can be ruined post launch is Absol true.

DedicatedDark6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

It's not their work to censor. They are incharge of restoration & remastering the work, not overwriting it.

Barlos5h ago

It's not the agenda of the developer though, they're pandering and trying to increase their ESG score.

Way to support censorship...

victorMaje5h ago

It’s not the end of the world for sure, but I understand the hate towards this kind of change. I believe it’s also a matter of principle.

Imagine a Picasso painting being restored & the restorer deciding there aren’t enough strokes, or some lines aren’t straight enough or curved enough…not sure it would/should sit well with people.

Have all original devs signed off on this change? Even if it’s the case, are we saying older gamers are better mentally equipped to process what was there than current gamers, hence the change?

Enough time ago the case was made that games are an art form. We’re supposed to have won that case.
So which is it? Are games art or not?

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Eidolon5h ago

Hasn't this been happened for over a decade since remasters? I can't see that it's any worse now. Maybe if Sweet Baby starts getting their hands on remasters we will definitely have a problem.

Rebel_Scum8h ago

tbh I dont see something like this as censorship. Does anyone else not find it strange for someone to stick pin ups of themsleves in a locker room?

Now of it was a pin up of some half naked firefighters it might make sense as Lara might like that, and if they removed that I would cry censorship. But removing pin ups of the main character, yeah I get it.

Barlos5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

It's a game, and they were placed there for the audience. It's not real life. If it was, she wouldn't have fought a T-Rex now would she?

Yes, it's censorship but it's a bit less in your face. If they were in the original game, then they should have been in the remasters. It's bad enough that they have that ridiculous unnecessary warning at the start, but then they start removing things post launch. I don't care how small the change, they shouldn't be doing it. It's nothing but ESG pandering but in a subtle way.

Rebel_Scum4h ago

Look bro, if you have pictures of yourself naked on a bear skin rug up in your house let me tell you, its not normal.

jambola2h ago

I wasn't aware censorship was based on what made sense to you

Rebel_Scum2h ago

Likewise, what a stupid comment.

jambola2h ago

I agree
Your comment was pretty stupid

Rebel_Scum1h ago

I never said censorship is based on what I say dumbass. Just because I dont see this as censorship doesnt mean I’m saying others cant.

How about you come at me with your opinion rather than snarky comments with no thought on the matter.

SimpleDad4h ago

By the year 2030, this remaster collection will totally be changed and censored. Probably will remove Lara as a playable character. It's ridiculous. Glad that my family didn't buy this.
I still have Tomb Raider 2 PS1 as a memory.

jambola2h ago

Those shorts are a little revealing
Should probably make them snow pants

Barlos2h ago

They'll probably make her trans

CobraKai4h ago

It’s mentioned in the article, and it’s a point i 100% agree with, it’s the fact that they can censor a game after you buy it. That’s total bullshit.

Killer2020UK4h ago

Whilst it's an overreaction to say this has "ruined" the game, it's still problematic that this has happened post launch and for many, post-purchase.

I don't want someone to change a product for the worse after I've bought it. The same goes for implementing micro transactions after reviews.

I wonder why they did this? Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

maykhausonninh4h ago

Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

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Final Fantasy III Pixel Remaster Review – You Are Your Job, Apparently

Gary Green said: In a time where an enhanced, 3D remake of Final Fantasy III already exists, it’s hard to argue that Final Fantasy III Pixel Remaster is the definitive version we were expecting. With Final Fantasy III already being the last in the series to be translated and make its way west, this is something of a slap in the face for the fans. Still, let’s not be disheartened. There may be many shortfalls in this edition of Final Fantasy III, however there’s no denying that this classic JRPG still holds some nostalgic value, even if it struggles to break away from its original hardware limitations.

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FACTUAL evidence9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

It’s funny I’m seeing these articles about pixel remaster, and I just platinumed 1-4 within 8 days lol. I’ve been on FF5 for about a week now. Let’s just say 5 was the start of FF having content like crazy. I should have the plat within 2-3 days.

MrBaskerville27m ago

The game being an accurate represantation of the original was not a slap in the face to the fans. The 3D remasters looked like ass (visually) tbh.