Some of us miss the days when we could just press a button and play a game. Xbox One seems specifically designed to KEEP us from playing games.
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Waiting a decade for new instalments in franchises as massive as Fallout and Elder Scrolls feels like a waste.
Microsoft have Obsidian but I feel it's Bethesda who just don't want to play ball as they've always said they want to do it themselves.
Once MS bought Zenimax in 2020 they should have put the Outer Worlds 2 on the back burner, allow Bethesda to finish off its own Space RPG with Starfield (despite totally different tone why have two in your first party portfolio with two developers who's gameplay is a tad similar) and got Obsidian for one of their projects to make a spiritual successor to New Vegas.
When the Elder Scrolls VI is finished Bethesda can then onto the main numbered Fallout 5 themselves.
The Outer Worlds 2 started development in 2019 so putting it on the back burner wouldn't have been the end of the world, they'd have always come back to it once Fallout was done and it would have been nicely spaced out from Starfields release once they had most likely stopped supporting it and all the expansions were released.
If they did this back in 2020 when they bought Zenimax and the game had a good, steady 4 - 5 years development, you might have seen it release in 2025.
We are literally going to be waiting until 2030 at the very earliest for Fallout 5 and all they seem bothered about is pushing Fallout 76.
Its not just only Todd not playing ball.
Obsidian have made a name for themselves in delivering stellar RPGs, but most famous once have always been sequels/spin-offs to borrowed IPs like KOTOR 2, Neverwinter Nights 2, Fallout: New Vegas, Stick of Truth etc.
Obsidian wants to invest more in their own original IPs like Outer Worlds or Pillars of Eternity with Avowed.
Similar to what Bluepoint & inXile wants to do or Kojima is doing (i.e not involving anymore in Konami's IPs).
So yea, even if New Vegas has the most votes from 3D Fallout fans, Obsidian just wants to do their own thing, like any aspiring dev studio and MS is likely currently respecting that.
But a future Fallout game from Obsidian will surely happen. Founder Feargus Urquhart has already stated an year ago that they're eager to make a new Fallout game with Bethesda, New Vegas 2 or otherwise. Urquhart was the director of the very first 1995's Fallout game after all.
And don't forget Brian Fargo and his studio inXile, as Brian Fargo was the director of Fallout's 1988 predecessor: Wasteland
Obsidian should take over the FO IP. They're do far better with it than Bethesda who hasn't made a great game for almost 15 years
I disagree. Part of these games is the support for the mod community. If they move to releasing a "next game" every 2 or 3 years, the modding support plummets and the franchises turn into just another run of the mill RPG.
Make the games good enough to withstand the test of time, to keep people coming back to them and expanding on them with mod support.
I dont think anyone is saying they need to come out every 2 years (not to mention almost no game is released that quickly anymore)
By the time Fallout 5 comes out, it will be more than 15 years since Fallout 4 came out (same with ES6 coming out 15 years after Skyrim). Even if you want to use F76 as the metric for the most recent release, that one came out in 2018. It will be a miracle if F5 comes out before 2030
The point is that for a studio that doesnt seem to operate with multiple teams doing several projects at once, that their projects normally take 4-5 years as a minimum, and that now they even added Starfield to the rotation, it becomes a 15+ years waiting period between releases for each series, which doesnt make sense. Imagine that Nintendo only released a mainline Mario or Zelda game every 15 years…
They either need to start developing more than 1 project at a time, let someone else take a crack at one of the IPs or significantly reduce their development times
Why should someone else take a crack at one of the IPs? Look at what happened to Final Fantasy as a recent example - there is pretty clear FF fatigue setting in because they are now pumping out titles in the franchise every few years. Pumping out more games faster doesn't always make a series better.
There are plenty of options to make new games, not just create more titles in the same universe at a faster pace.
Yeah I’m going to say it, who cares about the modding community when making a game? Half the time developers only tolerate modders because they fix there game for them.
Yeah, let's all advocate for smaller gaps between series' releases, then we'll probably get headlines about how the series have dropped in quality and they could have benefited from more time in the oven. Let them cook.
"how the series have dropped in quality and they could have benefited from more time in the oven" So every Bethesda game then? Got it.
Listen, I would agree if this was about From Software or something, but Bethesda?
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C'mon now. What timeline are you from?
Think about it, they're already bug filled messes on their current schedule, can you imagine how much worse it would be if they rushed things?
Bethesda [or Microsoft] would have to reallocate internal and external studios towards fallout and elder scrolls titles. Bethesda has the issue of developing 2 big IPs that are large RPGs on rotation. If you want more Fallout and Elder Scrolls, development will have to be outsourced.
I see absolutely NO benefit to owning one.. With PS4 i will have what i buy systems for.. GAMES.. Plus a newly designed UI & a powerhouse nx gen console.. Owning a xbone, ill have a powerful console that gives me nothing but more ways to control what i already have..
I think the PS4 will still offer this. Infact: I bet it will offer that instant kinda simplicity alot of us oldschoolers love - even quicker! The PS4 is supposed to have nearly instant start-up, a lickity split fast menu, a better UI, and it's Bluray Drive is reportedly a 2nd or 3rd gen bluray drive! Sony's eluded that it's so fast, there is no need to 'install' most (I assume some will though) games to it's HDD. This means the games will startup faster, load faster, save faster, and not need (or require) a mandatory 45+ minute install time like... *cough* PC.. *cough* and *cough*.. Xbox One *cough*!
I'd also point out that alot of oldschool developers are working on titles for the system too - so I imagine things shouldnt look too different from what where used too already. I'm also pretty sure used games are playable on the system - so that's a hitch we're most likely going to avoid in most cases. And as neat as Sony's various social ideas for it's nextgen PSN are; I assume most of that will still be a 'work in progress' when the actual system lauches later this year - and even that vision, isn't in anyway an obtrusive, or complicated thing. It just looks to me like Sony is simply making the PSN network a bit more fuller in content and making little touches to it's social features to acomidate what is expected to be a massive influx of multiplayer focused gamers who migrate from the XBOX 360 to the PS4.
Infact; It kinda boggles my mind that Microsoft would simply make this big of a blunder so close to the release of it's new system - and do so while adimatly defending it's mistakes, and ignoring the undenyable outcry of it's own fanbase!? The next-generation hasnt even begune yet & Micrososfts new system has more so much bad PR around it, that it's hard to imagine there being many people willing to be early-adopters of it!?
It's hard to imagine too - especially when I think back to how the original XBox came literally out of nowhere, and did the one thing Nintendo hadnt been able to do for a decade: put up increadible competition against sony. Then how Microsoft scored a game winning blow against sony when it released the nearly perfect XBOX 360 a whole year before Sony - and then with greater fortune; sony's PS3 flopped due to lact of software & poor quality ports. It all literally drove maybe 90% of the people who owned PS2's to adopt a XBOX 360!?
Now here we are: just two or three years ago, people said Sony was dead here in the west - and where seeing Microsoft literally throw away what could have been the single greatest fanbase in videogame history. And all while we watch sony claw it's way out of the rubble of it's terrible decissions (cell processor!?), and reinvent itself as a modernday 'Playstation 1' (I mean that in the goodway). I guess it's really true: "you don't know what you've got till it's gone." It may have took nearly financial ruin, multiple presidents steping down, multiple iterations of it's console, and the near total loss of a generation of it's fans; but Sony has finally realized who is their future: us - the fans!
I was just speaking to the manager of my local chapter of GAMESTOP, and he said noone is wanting to preorder the XBOX One! And all I can think is: "Microsoft what have you done!?...Oh, how the the mighty have fallen". If they don't get ride of the 'required daily internet-check', and the used games fee - I'm pretty sure they will have drawn a line, most game consumers arent willing to cross, and promised the future dominance of Sony in the next generation of gaming markets.
^^ Your first paragraph was enough to ignore rest of your comment.
yeah, yeah, ok MS, you have some mildly interesting, quirky and gimmicky new tech built in to your spiffy new box with your voice commands and hand gestures and what not....but thats all it is.... a gimmick. A stupid (and sure to be utterly annoying) gimmick that will die out faster than some shitty catchphrase from some shitty reality TV show.
People dont want to "swipe" to their skype (who the hell likes face to face voice coms anyway, no one I know, sadly they all 'text' or FB mssg now) or do they want to "voice command" over to watch some shitty sports while playing a videogame (thats most likely why we are playing a vg, so we dont have to watch shitty sports). Who the hell does your market research? Fuck this box is the epitome of retarded gimmicks. God god I'll eat a plate of my own crap if this thing succeeds.