Devs express disappointment with Xbox One over Twitter

Microsoft's Matt Booty affirmed earlier today that digital publishing policies on Xbox One would be no different than they were on Xbox 360. Any hope that Microsoft would right the ship that has inconvenienced a good number of former XBLA devs went down the drain after we learned that indies still won't be able to self-publish their wares. Never mind that just about every other viable platform gives them flexible options, because Microsoft is having none of it.

[Qrphe]

The lack of self-publishing is really shocking. A year ago, I was expecting Microsoft to try to turn the system more open like the Windows OS's since they were integrating Win8 in some way or the other; it's the total opposite of what I expected.

[Snookies12]

I had some high hopes for the Xbox One... Maybe this is the wake up call MS needs though. If not, they're going to find themselves in a hole they can't get out of.

[I_am_Batman]

Same here. I wonder if the wake up call is too late for them though. The dev reactions are the exact opposite of the ones for the ps4. Microsoft has a lot of work to do if they want to turn it around (if that is even possible at this state).

[kneon]

Not necessarily, apart from the weaker hardware almost all other issues are software and business related and so can potentially still be fixed.

[MikeMyers]

Microsoft dropped the ball on indies, especially when you have someone like Tim Schafer (one of the most likeable people around) saying boo.

Sony should keep advertising how well they work with them.

What's sad is it looks like Microsoft is treating indies like they do with big franchises, wanting to only support indie games they think can sell well. That's not the attitude that will help them.

[BitbyDeath]

MS seem to have the same problem with the OS market as well.

Win95 - Good
Win98 - Bad
Win2000 - Good
WinME - Bad
Xp - Good
Vista - Bad
Win7 - Good
Win8 - Bad

Xbox - Bad
360 - Good
XbO - Bad

Maybe Xbox TWO will do better

[HappyGaming]

@BitbyDeath You forgot Windows 99, 98 was good for its time :P

I recently noticed the same pattern. People buy XP so assume the new windows will be worth it and buy Vista. It breaks their PC so much they are forced to wait and buy Windows 7 which is good and people assume the next one will be even better.

And the cycle continues!

[fr0sty]

@kneon

first impressions are key, however, and this hasn't been a good one. consumer confidence in the brand has taken a huge hit.

[xxV0rschlaghammer]

@BitbyDeath LOL I've been in the PC tech industry for years now and MS has always had major blunders, I do however think the first Xbox was pretty good, even though during that generation I actually preferred the Gamecube

[FTLightspeed]

@BitbyDeath how was the OG xbox bad? it was better then the PS2 AND the gamecube.

[Masta_fro]

I think every gamer should watch this...its hilarious!!

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[nveenio]

We were starting a new generation, and my pocket book was up for grabs. Everything was fair game. The PS4 impressed me, but I really thought Microsoft was going to lure me back. Instead, they pushed me away. Even when I watched the trailer for Ryse, I thought, "Eh...Crytek isn't the greatest, but this might convince me to pick up a new Xbox..." And then I saw that it was a Kinect game.

*sigh*

[darthv72]

Self publishing applies to games that would appear in the "Indie" games section. That has long been the norm and is even the same case for Indie games on the PS store.

If an Indie dev wants their game put into the bigger more lucrative sections, that is where they need to partner up with a bigger publisher. there is no blocking of an indie dev to release their game.

The problem with the way its all phrased is people are assuming that if a dev cant self publish, they cant get their game on the service. That is wrong. It only applies to "WHERE" their game is listed.

Its like in retail markets. A product is generally placed where it fits. If a company wants their product at the front of the line, they pay extra for that privilege. EVERY company has the right to do that but some lack the funds to do it.

There is a false representation going on here. By all means i support indie devs but that is why they are called indie devs. they have their own section in both the Live marketplace as well as the PS store.

These smaller devs want their wares put in the bigger sections of both services because of the higher volume of traffic those sections generally have. They CAN do that but it will cost them OR they make a deal with a bigger publisher to do it for them.

I dont know if its some sort of entitlement mentality they are trying to push. Meaning that because they make a game and want to sell it on the PS store and live that they deserve the same section as games from bigger publishers. well...no offense but that is why both services created the categories for "Indie" games. So those types of games dont get lost in the shuffle of other big dev/published games.

Support the indie developers by buying their wares and word of mouth. The more popular their title becomes, it would naturally escalate up the ranks in the service and could help them get picked up by a larger publisher which can lead to them being put into the same category as the bigger arcade games on both services.

[andibandit]

@DarthV

quite a wall of text, but i read through it like a Dan Brown book. Nicely written.

[blackbeld]

@masta

Hahahaha that was funny awesome!!

Thank you for the laugh.

[Ashlen]

Windows 8 is the most closed version of Windows to date. Most people agree that the direction Microsoft wants to move is towards a more ap based system where they can control what makes it onto there system like Google and Apple.

[maxgamehard]

It looks like M$ is no longer competing with Sony and Nintendo rather they are competing with Google and Apple.

[showtimefolks]

sony and nintendo both offer developers to self publish so its shocking that ms isn't allowing that with xbox one

but also i think MS is testing the water and will make the proper changes at E3, atleast i hope because some of their moves are head scratches to say the least

[Godmars290]

Sony and Nintendo are largely following the example MS set. Which still doesn't excuse MS's inflexibility.

[Darrius Cole]

Microsoft isn't going to right any ship, they are doing exactly what they have wanted to do all along. They want to eliminate the used games market. In order to do that small developers must be forced to play ball or else. Can't have them going off the reservation later.

[jetlian]

what does the used market have to do with indie devs Darrius? indie game would be dled anyway so there is nothing to sell used.

I think it has to do with people like phil fish not being able to pay to fix their game! If phil fish was backed by EA or Activision they would have payed the 30k or whatever it cost to fix the game so as not to stir the pot

[maxgamehard]

Look at what the creator of Minecraft said.

https://twitter.com/notch/s...

And even Tim Schaefer is upset.

https://twitter.com/TimOfLe...

Did M$ not see what Sony has been doing. Or have they seen what they are doing but just don't care because they are making this console for a different crowd.

[RandomDude655]

You're talking about the company that had a funeral for the iphone when windows 8 phone was about to launch.

They are a bit delusional and are suffering a large amount of groupthink.

[shutUpAndTakeMyMoney]

Die MS Die!!!

[Tsar4ever01]

Ya'll should look at these 2 guys rants at youtube, Sooo hilarious!!

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Pintheshadows]

I like the angry metal head.

[WayneJ360]

Its gonna be running 3 OS's you guys need to listen to everything they say Im sure Windows 8 will be one of the 3 since im running Win 8 now and has some functions on 360 already :)

[otherZinc]

I'm not buying a next gen console for indie games!

[TheLyonKing]

Missing out. Indie games are amazing and well crafted like Fez, journey and bastion.

[Cueil]

Journey was published by Sony and Fez and Bastion initially got their starts through Microsoft who clearly wasn't draconic and made them stay exclusive. Most indie games are on PC and even with a basic rig you'll be able to play 99 percent of them. I'm holding out hope we see some verion of XBLIG as well as the ability to publish apps through the Win8 store to Xbox One.

[PiTCHBLaCK]

You're truly missing out!.

[Cueil]

seems Major Nelson was hinting at something as did Aaron Greenberg... perhaps we'll see some form of XBLIG come to Xbox One also there is the Windows side that theoretically you can put your Win8 game apps on. There are still a ton of things and this is software based so maybe the voice is loud enough that the people who want it in Microsoft will get the boost to give it the go ahead.

[SexyGamerDude]

I really had high hopes for this system. All it has turned into is Microsoft forcing their crap onto us. The fees, the forced installs, and the internet requirements are all crap. Now they do this. They want to be another Apple or Google.

You could have at least worked with Google, so One buyers (whoever they are) wouldn't have to use that crap IE.

[FlameHawk]

Lol even the Console exclusive dev are talking bad about it; Super Meat Boy and Fez. Lmao what a blow to Microsoft.

[SexyGamerDude]

The creator of Minecraft even commented. Do you know how popular Minecraft is? Every time I hop on my dashboard I see a Mine craft add. What's going to take it's place now?

[itz_zombies]

Fortress Craft. :3

[Sarobi]

"But honestly, after their reveal yesterday, does anyone really WANT to make games for it?" - Terry Cavanagh

Indie support goes a long way, and right now MS doesn't seem to be getting it.

[M-M]

It's amazing how rumors and developer praise for the PS4 are all coming to together and are starting to make sense. I honestly can't believe what Microsoft is doing, what were they thinking?

[Rusty515]

Haha. I read the last sentence in the avgn's voice.

[Akira2020]

I would like to personally thank Microsoft for saving me a shit load of cash.
-Akira2020

[SexyGamerDude]

I'm glad they did this. Saved me the trouble of not knowing which console to pick.

[3sexty rulzzz]

they pretty much didn't gave a shit for their loyal customers and gave all of us the finger and I can't be mad at sony fans for enjoying the moment. I'm disappointed! O well, at least i still have my 360

[majiebeast]

So Sony has Indies,F2P devs,third party,second party and first party support. Yeah this is the system for gamers and developers they promised.

[supremacy]

you are right, but guys like greenpower seem to always find ways to spin the negative press, which is why MS doesnt need to care because they got guys like him around.

Here is if we can all agreed a better way to kick off a gaming conference or in this case a reveal http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Here is how not spend 45 minutes of your reveal... http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Count]

So, wait, you think Microsoft cares about greenpowerz?

The delusion is amazing.

Some people actually thinks he works for Microsoft!

Then we must have the entire Sony roster on this website.

[ceballos77mx]

@count.

You're wrong he's saying the opposite of what you think, since there are many blind and loyal supporters like green, M$ doesn't give a $#!t about what gamers want they know they will buy whatever they release.

[DivineAssault]

I thought all the PR talk was gonna hype up every console cuz its just "PR" talk.. But its clear that devs are praising PS4 & down talking wii u & now X1 as well.. SMH but ppl will still say "just wait til E3 & there will be so much more games for X1" Even though they had a hour long reveal using 45min of it to talk about TV & Sports. Microsoft is clearly telling the world what theyre offering them yet ppl seem to have hope that something else is coming..

Ill be keeping my Wii U & getting PS4 day 1 without hesitation..

[Lucreto]

Not a good start for Microsoft. Compare this to PS4 conference. Developers were out supporting it, Indie Developers the same. Very little in negative press.

If I was Sony I would do a nintendo direct type show just for indie developers.

It will give these developers a spotlight so people will buy their games. It is hard to get an indie game the time of day during E3 so little snap shots would be good for them and might get more developers to consider Playstation 4 and Vita.

[majiebeast]

Go tweet @ShahidKamal about it im sure he would love the idea of a pre E3 indie blow out. Also Sony did focus on indies at GDC and gave them the entire spotlight.

[Lucreto]

I was thinking beyond E3.

The developer gets interviewed or talk to us directly about what the game is about, show some Gameplay etc. I would be more likely to buy the game if I know more about it.

[Count]

Sure, go tweet guy who gets tons of ideas each day your idea, and expect him to give enough of a shit about it to actually implement it.

Sony loves every gamer like Jesus loves every man!

[Snookies12]

@Count - Someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed...

[adorie]

@Snookies
I heard Stone beds will do that to you.

[PiTCHBLaCK]

@ Lucreto

Well from what I heard on the PS4 you can try a game before you buy, so thats just as good.

[saint_seya]

@count: talking the way u do.. have u though in taking the "o" in your name...

[merciless]

Unless MS' next move is there best move. I strongly believe that the xbox brand will have a really rough time trying to compete with PS4.

It's confirmed 50% less powerful and unless they bring out all 15 of those 15 next gen exclusive games, it might just be a wrap. Microsoft have cut other malignant ventures from their structure regardless of how successful they were previously.

E3 this year is going to be something special to watch. Personally I'll be watching the foreheads of both MS and sony execs for precipitation because if MS come out with an arsenal and every gun blazing... Sony execs might sweat and if Sony comes out using every last bit of that 50% more raw power...

We might hear tears...

VGchartz console preorders numbers may just end console wars for a generation.

[tuglu_pati]

@merciless

"It's confirmed 50% less powerful" that statement is wrong.

The PS4's GPU is 50% more powerful than Xbox's.
The Xbox's GPU is 33% less powerful than PS4's.

Imagine the Xbox One has 100 power units and the PS4 has 150 power units.

The PS4 is 50% more powerful than the Xbox One. 150/100 = 1.5
The Xbox One is 33% less powerful than the PS4. 100/150 = 0.66

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

[merciless]

My statement

"and if Sony comes out using every last bit of that 50% more raw power"

You seem to have missed the fact that I had already acknowledged the 50% more power to the ps4?

[tuglu_pati]

I did not missed it. I was just correcting you. You said the XB1 is 50% less powerful and that is incorrect. The correct way is 33% less powerful.

The XB1 is 33% "LESS" Powerful

The PS4 is 50% "MORE" Powerful

[sway_z]

Xbox One is the CIA's console of choice...it seems like a console designed by globalists...

Should have named it Xbox One Elite.

Even Peter Molyneux is struggling to express excitement...in fact IGN have a 2hr post reveal interview on youtube where they seem to be mocking the Xbox One.

Peter Molyneux is struggling to work out who the X1 is actually for....wasn't this guy linked to MS?

Xbox 1984 edition - Big Brother IS Watching you, now log in every 24hrs....

"Go Home Xbox" - Classic :)

[Klad]

I agree! Xbox one will not work without Kinect attached!!! BIG BROTHER IS ALWAYS WATCHING YOU!!! - Watch this new IGN Video - http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Gamer-Z]

MS should just get out of the console business seriously

[BitbyDeath]

I agree, after the stunt they pulled with XbO.
I can't tell if they are actively trying to ruin console gaming for everyone or if they are really just that dumb!?

[sway_z]

@BitbyDeath....

They're not ruining it for everyone...I am PS4 all the way, and what are you talking about? the PS4 doesn't require always online?? IDC about Xbox One?? You are confused, I'm all for privacy, thats why I don't want kinect??..really dude, are you making this up as you go along? And we're discussing NOW, NOT YOUR FUTURE..get with it...!!

@Gamer-Z

Don't worry, I think this is MS' way of getting out of the console business.

@BitbyDeath

Make up your mind and quit editing to conveniently switch your argument....confused you are or just really upset that your console makers have abandoned you?

#xboxgonehome

[BitbyDeath]

@sway_z, If this becomes accepted then their is a chance PS5 may get the same treatment. It will eventually ruin gaming for everyone cause MS are setting the standard.

[BitbyDeath]

Edited, cause i re-read and thought maybe you weren't that serious with your response.

Anyways if you give them an inch they'll take a mile. And not just MS, others will join in. Stop it while you can.

[PS4isKing_82]

I couldn't agree more. Devs hate it. gamers hate it. The press hates it. For everyone saying the wiiu is a failure need to look at the Xbox one. Now THAT is a failure if I've ever seen "one".

[Count]

Why? Because you don't like them? Who cares about you? They're successful enough. Enough people liked their product. Like their products.

Why do they need to go?

They have plenty of good stuff to offer.

If you don't wanna buy it, then don't.

[PiTCHBLaCK]

I Gladly won't buy it, not being a fanboy but It just has nothing I want or need.

[Akira2020]

I went to the store today and actually gave Nintendo WiiU another look. Who would've thought.

[Oldman100]

Yeah it's weird. After watching the MS conference I now have this strange urge to go out and buy a Wii U.

Wait, maybe this was Nintendo's plan all along?

[starchild]

I've been saying the same thing lately: Sony made all the right decisions and MS is making all the wrong ones.

Oh, and for all those people who are suddenly praising the Wii U just because the Xbox One sucks, drop it. The Wii U still sucks.

PS4 is going to dominate like nothing we have seen in a long time.

[yesmynameissumo]

Devs aren't the only ones disappointed...

[nigelp520]

Guys this means more exclusives for Wii U and PS4. As long as Sony doesnt ban used games at all they are going to the system of choice

[jdktech2010]

If I remember right (which is certainly up in the air), I think Jack Tretton said the used game issue will be up to the publisher (i.e. online passes) but PS4 will not block used games in any way.

They said the same thing about always online as well.

[nigelp520]

At long as the system itself cant block used games thats all that matters. EA tried to do that online pass nwo its cancelled. sumthing similar could happen next gen

[GreenRanger]

I'm beginning to think that the Xbox One reveal was just a joke by Microsoft and they'll go out on the stage at E3 and say something like "LOL, WE WAS ONLY JOKIN'".
I don't think the Xbox One can get any worse at this point.

[DARK WITNESS]

Watch as they get out the big guns for E3. DC2 with Justin B on stage dancing away.

it's funny, I kept telling all my friends that the conference was going to be shit and they will prob talk a load of crap and show like 3 games and show cod at the end.

Still, it managed to be even worse then what I imagined.

[Pillsbury1]

Everybody hates Microsoft just like when you turned evil.

[josephayal]

Xbox one is a let down, from a gamer perspective

[stuna1]

Aliens tapped into the conference feed, and now even they feel bad for us!

[jukins]

lets hope microsoft changes stances after all the negative attention. we shall see

[younglj01]

Wow and I thought those videos Sony was releasing with developers was just because they announced their console first now it seems like indie developers are about too jump ship...

[jdktech2010]

It's not that the Xbox One is a terrible piece of equipment. The TV switching thing is really cool, the voice searching is kinda cool, the sports and nfl deals are neat and all of it sounds great.

The problem is I have a TV and cable box that can watch TV already, I can check my fantasy juts fine on my tablet or phone, I have a TV remote to switch inputs and while it's not as fast or "easy" as the Xbox One, it's nothing that's gonna make me spend 400 dollars and subscribe to Live (would be shocked if the TV thing is free).

It's all about the games and so far we have:

Forza - Good exclusive game

Quantam Break - What is it? Is it a shooter? Story game like Beyond?

Ryse - looked ok when it debuted but that was 3-4 years ago...how much has it changed? What is it now? Fully kinect or controller and kinect?

My point is we know NOTHING about the exclusive games other than there's 15 in the first year which could be anything from XBLA games to full AAA games. I've seen nothing that urges me to buy the system after the first reveal. Now the indie devs which put out some quality content are basically saying they aren't a fan (putting it lightly) and may not develop for it at all which just puts more money and games in Sony's court (like Blacklight Retribution, etc.)

This is almost a complete reversal of last generation's reveals where Sony made all the mistakes thinking they were invincible and would sell consoles on their word alone and Microsoft who showed games and why we needed a 360 with Gears, etc.

Now there is a lot of time left and a lot to be said by both camps at E3 but Sony has 3 quality exclusives that we know what they are. They have two quality (at least in Blacklight) indie type games that we're getting. They have The Witness and the support of every dev out there.

I hope even the Xbox fanboy can understand some of the cautiousness and concerns here. I would love to discuss in a civilized manner why I shouldn't be concerned as I would love to own an Xbox One but right now I'm waiting until Halo 5 at the earliest (if ever).

[Nodoze]

I think it is pretty clear from the actions they are taking that MS think the days of the traditional console are over. They are moving towards the Apple/Google model and don't appear to be looking back.

I think they are in for a rude awakening. The console still has some life left in it.

Also am I the only one who thinks that the idea of having to have BOTH a cable box/DVR AND an Xbox one to watch TV is ridiculous? It is 2013, who in the hell still watches live TV??

There is no cable input, which means now you have to have two devices to control your cable if you bought any of the stank MS was peddling yesterday.

Also I find it odd that every time that guy who was presenting wanted to interact with the X, he put his hands in his pockets...HMMMM

It did seem like things were working a bit too well.

[ziggurcat]

bu-bu-but i though MS was the best for the indie devs

/sarcasm

[Godhimself_In_3d]

Thing is m$ is doing what sony did last gen there feeling them selfs right now and they feel they can do what they want cause they got some legs under them right now

[DARK WITNESS]

kind of, but sony had the good sense to correct themselves as soon as they could see it was not going down with the fans.

Does anyone remember the price of the ps3 when it was announced for the Japan market. The backlash was so bad that sony put a price drop on it for japan before the console had actually launched !

When it then released in the US and UK and still it was not selling, within the first 6 montsh I think, or 8, they dropped the price for those markets as well.

You think MS has the ballz to admit they were wrong and actually change their policy on locked games etc? I don't think so.

[FrigidDARKNESS]

lmao fanboy thread fo sho.

[Snookies12]

Indie devs are fanboys?

[medziarz]

hey, Mr FEZ guy and other - so why aren't your games on Playstation?

[xursz]

Coming soon I expect.

[PiTCHBLaCK]

PS3 was very hard and time consuming to Dev for, I'm sure that was one reason. PS4 will be much easier to Dev for.

[Clarence]

They don't care about developers. M$ sees more money in TV subscribers. Their betting that they will be able to get the sports crowd along with old 360 owners to buy the Xbox 1

[Bonerboy]

I really dont understand this entire xbox fiasco. It seems that MS's arrogance over their 360 success has gone to their heads. "Fuck 'em, we're almighty and the droves of sheep will buy our new system no matter what we do" Even if they manage (in some miracle) to turn their PR and system around, the damage is done and they have lost a huge huge share of gamers money. I wonder what devs will do?

MS has slipped in shit and hit their heads on the sink. I gave them too much credit in hoping they would make it work. Instead they have alienated gamers devs journalists etc etc. Who the fuck does their market research? Brutal.

[MysticStrummer]

' It seems that MS's arrogance over their 360 success has gone to their heads. "Fuck 'em, we're almighty and the droves of sheep will buy our new system no matter what we do" '

They didn't learn a thing from Sony. Sony had a similar attitude about PS3. Of course, PS3 ended up outselling 360 so maybe MS is copying Sony on purpose.

[xxV0rschlaghammer]

Wow, as someone who is actually going to school for game design, programming and computer science, this is pretty ridiculous, I actually had always dreamed of getting my game onto consoles, but now it seems like it'll be a hassle, at least on Microsoft's system which sucks because I've been messing around with XNA dev kit for months now for the 360.

[cell989]

well now you know to stick with IOS or Sony or Android

[strigoi814]

xbox go home...lolz

[silvacrest]

i think "xbox, turn on ps4" is my fav

[strigoi814]

Yah if i can run my cable box to the xboxone maybe there is a possibility i could connect my ps4, ps3, or 360 to it via HDMI

[SITH]

Looks like I am sticking with my 36o and PC. Microsoft has plenty of time to right this ship or put it back in dry dock, but the holes are right in the open promising to sink this ride.

[3sexty rulzzz]

I will buy a ps4 in due time. Never thought I would be saying that. Microsoft did it to themselves

[urwifeminder]

I am hoping for a new amped game as I am so amped from the reveal even though pc has got its hooks in to me I am on board.

[silvacrest]

developers and gamers collectivley dont like the xbox 1

i wonder what MS will do to address this at E3

i can honestly see them doing nothing while ploughing ahead

[Prcko]

i just hope we won't have worse graphics because of xbox one,ps4 has more power to spare!

[S2Killinit]

problem with Microsoft isn't that they wont have any games. Come E3 they will show plenty of games. In fact I bet they will have one game that everyone will be interested in. Kind of alike what Gears of War was for the 360, it was a "must have" game. The real problem is that their true goal is to move away from gaming as a whole. They will only cater to gamers so long as they aren't on board their machine yet. Once they are, they will stop catering to them (exactly what happened with the 360, remember the second half of this generation?) Microsoft wants the causal, they want the mom's and kinect players, but at the expense of leaving out the core gamers that made the xbox popular to begin with.

[OniXRuleZ]

A long, long time ago they said de same sh....t about Ps3!

[TemplarDante]

3rd console curse, OniXRuleZ..
Im not superstitious...
*whispers*
Its real..

[Galaxy_Legend]

Now stop using ps3's reputation to defend xbox one's SHORTCOMINGS

[TemplarDante]

Im a hardcore gamer.
I was disappointed in it too.

My mom and dad, however, were all smiles..

[FlyingFoxy]

Well i guess people will now look at getting a Wii U, i already own one but have barely used it due to lack of games so far. But one of those & a PS4 should fetch quality games.

[GoldPunch-TR]

In conclusion: http://i.minus.com/iBzvb2JS...

[hankmoody]

Really surprised to say this but my initial excitement about this new Xbox is just dwindling lower and lower. And now, reading these quotes from the indie developers really just took the wind out of my sails. Really hoping that MS starts listening to these guys and playing ball because like one of the indie devs said, they're basically handing indie gaming over to the other companies on a silver platter.

[izumo_lee]

This has been such a stark contrast that occured after the PS4 reveal when almost every developer big & small was praising the PS4 for days & still are.

Everything Microsoft has shown & discussed has alienated a lot of developers...you know the ones that a console is dependant on to make games for. Oh wait...the XboxOne isn't about games anymore that is why Microsoft is ignoring the developer. Success has really gotten to Microsoft's head & now just like the early days of the PS3 they think they can call the shots.

The advantage that Microsoft has built this gen to take a large chunk of the marketshare is slowly shrinking cause of their different attitude & that is gonna bite them in the ass next gen.

[Solo227]

Its suprising how much flack MS is taking over that crappy reveal... LOL I expected more but folks gotta realize that its still early..

They claimed 15 exclusives are in the works... Maybe they will suprise everyone and inform us that more than 5 are AAA titles. That would definitely regain the lost ground for them. So stop giving them a hard time right now... And lets just wait an see..

If more than 5 are Kinect titles at E3. Its gonna get ugly. LOL

[Galaxy_Legend]

PS4 stands on top of xbox one. Now the only thing between ps4 and success is competitive pricing. Once that is done ps4 rules next gen !!!

[daedra]

nobodys about to jump ship, that's just dumb, sonys online infrastructure sucks, xbox live is solid and structured, everybody games on xbox live.
^galaxy le
ya you wish buddy, keep dreaming

[Cryptcuzz]

It is quite odd how Microsoft should be the one that should be open and more welcoming because of their PC roots, but slowly they have shown signs of wanting to be closed and controlled like Apple has been.

Windows 8 and its app and services, Xbox and its approach to Indie developers and so forth points to this revelation.

[Leio]

One right move and they think they are already in charge.

Whoever in charge of their business strategies must have been sitting in a Hittler bunker

[Tzuno]

Do not buy their product simple as that. This is where it hurts "MONEY" and you can choose what to do with your money, this way you can get attention because right now we are perceived by ms like some addicts that tremble in front of their drug. Think about it. i used to love Ms but this is going to far.

[maniacmayhem]

Has anyone noticed that devs are upset with MS over the indie-self publishing issue but not one tweet about the used games?

Makes you wonder about next gen doesn't it...

[airgangstarr]

it sucks because ive had such a bad experience on ps3 that i cant find myself ever buyin another ps but xbox has lost there mind there focus is on enhancing tv i barely watch tv unless its sports or a movie.. like what the hell are they thinking tv ,,, tv is dead! heres a idea lets jump on the dinosaur which is tv an ride it into extinction.. why try an battle with google or apple there product is around 100 bucks u cant win when ur product is 400 bucks.. my biggest turn off is kinect i really doubt my roommate wants to hear me yellin at my xbox all night

[snittolo]

I wonder if any gaming websites will do a sit down with multiple devs across the platforms to see what they think about the Xbox one news?

[vigilante_man]

I was surprised watching the PS4 reveal just how game & developer focused Sony were. I mean they have bent over backwards to listen to developers when making their new console and even took tips from their studios over the controller.

I do respect Sony for quality hardware but never expected just how focused these guys seemed over bringing the best possible console and gaming system for the money.

Is it a Japanese thing that they have love for their creations? I ask because I didn't see any love from MS this week towards their many millions of loyal gamers.

It seemed instead a bit of a snub. I got the impression they were saying "This is what WE think you will want - we do know best!". Where was the talk about games or developers?

I am still a little bit stunned by it all. It was a surprise, after all - just not the kind I was expecting...

[Ragthorn]

No wonder they only revealed one exclusive (Quantum Break) lol.

[Ragthorn]

Oh I'm sorry Forza 5 and Quantum Break.

[KentBlake]

Terry Cavanagh, creator of VVVVVV and Super Hexagon:

"But honestly, after their reveal yesterday, does anyone really WANT to make games for it?"

Ouch.

[Snookies12]

I also felt the sting of the Thomas Was Alone's creator saying that he'd probably never even be a blip on Microsoft's radar. That's just sad that such talent is overlooked because MS has their heads too far up their rear.

[Shane Kim]

Don't worry guys!! Shane Kim will suck Cliff Bleszinski willie so hard his soul will come out of his urethra. That would at least cover us a future Gears of War!!

[eddvdm]

Anyone who watched 30 minutes of this year's Google I/O ( here, extremely recommended: https://developers.google.c... ) will get why the company is where it stands: developers. Android? Developers. IOS? Much (a lot) because of apps (developers).

Now Microsoft is just blind (my 2c), lazy (hm take 2 more, here) or f*ing pretentious (total 6c) when trying to ignore the future of games. Lobbies, AAA industries, etc I guess we'll have plenty yet, but to mistreat indie game devs like it's doing is just industrial stupidity.

[TBONEJF]

Yep because they can't PLAY USED GAMES NUFF SAID