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Opinion: Xbox One reveal proves Sony was right to conceal PS4

Microsoft's muddled presentation suggests it has been outmanoeuvred for the first time in the console war, writes Tim Clark. Pop quiz, hotshots: Who knows why Sony didn't show the actual box when it revealed PS4?

Put your hands down if you think the prototype wasn't ready. Of course it was ready. The console will be released this year, which means the case design will have been done a long time ago. It's not the sort of thing you can knock out on a Friday afternoon between crafty games of Candy Crush.

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MasterCornholio3990d ago (Edited 3990d ago )

I found it horrible that they showed off the XBONER and they didnt demonstrate any games on it. I mean sure the conference was mostly about digital television and sports but they could have had a live gameplay demo of something.

Well makes the Major Nelson look stupid for tweeting this.

"Announce a console without actually showing a console? That's one approach"

How about announcing a console without showing any games?

BlackTar1873990d ago

Announce a Video game console and show no gameplay footage

Shadow Flare3990d ago (Edited 3990d ago )

Rent a crowd to clap because the real crowd don't want to

That's one way to do it

Blackdeath_6633990d ago (Edited 3990d ago )

well you get criticised for showing games but not the console, and you get criticised for showing the console but no games you can't please everyone i guess. what killed the xbox for me anyways is what surfaced after the conference, like no used games, needs kinect to function, needs to be connected to internet every 24hrs, cannot change or upgrade HDD etc...

darthv723990d ago

they switched places this time around.

It had long been rumored that during the dev of the 360, they upped their specs at the last minute to compete with sony.

in the end both the ps3 and 360 were comparatively matched in terms of specs. PS3 had the better cpu and 256mb system ram / 256mb video ram, 360 had the better gpu and 512mb unified ram. with ms showing first

so now, both ps4 and xb1 have 8 core custom AMD cpu and 8gb of ram. sony upped their ram from 2 to 4 then ultimately to 8gb gddr5 where as ms seemed to have been set with going with 8gb ddr3 from the start. with sony showing first this time around.

this is a pretty good read actually: http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

MikeMyers3990d ago

"Quote from the article:

"Take a look at the third question again. Do you know what Sony's policy for pre-owned games is going to be? I don't. The best CVG's bloodhound of an editor could extract from Michael Denny, Sony's VP of Worldwide Studios after the PS4 reveal, was some bluster about doing "the right thing" by consumers and developers. Cool! Beyond that, Sony has largely got away scot-free ever since."

Exactly. Sony is now using Microsoft to try and answer these hard questions. Both of them won't say yet. So don't start saving for that PS4 just yet, they too might have something up their sleeve, and why not? They already adopted online passed and have DRM restrictive games on PSN.

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SirBradders3990d ago

Sony are smart now all eyes are back on them cos we know what the xbox looks like and we have seen just a small portion of games from the ps4 and i actually do wanna see the design even though its no importance.

One4U3989d ago

i cant wait for e3 , naughty dogs uncharted team is like almost 2 yrs into development ! cant wait for the other devs too !

LackTrue4K3990d ago

Ever gamer is waiting for E3, why are people bringing it up...?! O wait, you still think Mircosoft is gana "wow" us?! Haha

Killabites3990d ago

Don't live in hope my friend.

Y_51503990d ago

I say that for the Wii U. It's going to get better for the system. But PS4 is going there with some momentum and I bet if it doesn't end up like 2005 E3 reveal of the PS3. Then it would be fantastic!

TXIDarkAvenger3990d ago

I don't know why your getting disagrees. If MS went all out, what the fuck would they show at E3? I will be waiting with you man.

LOL, just remember there wasn't really any wow factor at the PS4 announcement.

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plaZeHD3990d ago

"XBONER"
Oh wow ouch
/sarcasm

sway_z3990d ago

MasterCornholio you are a TROLL...

LOOK AT WHAT HE WROTE JUST 15 MINS AGO ....

'Nope because XBOX fans are extremely happy with the direction that Microsoft is going with the Xbox brand.

Seriously if they didnt like it then they wouldnt have supported Kinect which sold boat loads of units'

YOU ARE A FAKE LIKE THE CROWD APPLAUDING AT X1 EVENT...

sourav933990d ago

I just looked at his past 10 comments, they're all negative comments towards xbox, just the one one here. So I don't see how he's a fake. I don't condone doing what he's doing, but he's definitely not in 2 minds about it.

sway_z3990d ago (Edited 3990d ago )

Ok, I take your word for it Sourav93...

Maddens Raiders3990d ago (Edited 3990d ago )

...

Sony is doing amazing things.

Y_51503990d ago

Picture never gets old.

maniacmayhem3990d ago

I don't even think Sony had a live gameplay demo. So why expect MS too?

Raccoon3990d ago (Edited 3990d ago )

Shut the hell up! We expected games and core specs not TV, NFL and 5 billion transitors....

S_C3990d ago

Killzone: Shadow Fall ,need i say any more

maxgamehard3990d ago

Knack was a live game demo as well.

maniacmayhem3990d ago

Don't remember Knack so that must tell me something and Killzone from what I remember looked like a demo as well since I didn't actually see anyone playing.

Adva3990d ago

What a nut job. Killzone was LIVE, Knack was live (On the vita aswell), pretty sure Drive was demoed though not sure about that title. Watch_dogs aswell.

HeroLv93990d ago

Jimmy Fallon played killzone Shadow Fall on his show...go watch it on Youtube.

raytraceme3990d ago (Edited 3990d ago )

Killzone shadowfall was played by jimmy fallon LIVE and it was gameplay because the other guy with jimmy sucked at it.

also knack showed off gameplay on both the ps4 and the vita with remote play.

And we expected ms to because they are showing the reveal 3 months after the ps4 reveal. Which could prove the leaks about x1's developement being delayed.

And don't give me bs that is was played on a pc because we actually know the full whereabouts of the ps4's architecture while we got lame vague specs from MS.

Guerilla also has a full slideshow presentation on how kz:sf was made on the ps4 MS has nothing.

maxgamehard3990d ago

@maniacmayhem

I am sorry but i just have to.

http://cdn.dualshockers.com...

Qrphe3990d ago

>dis amount of denial

Turn off the damage control

The_Troll_Whisperer3990d ago

One phrase: Killzone: Shadow Fall

I have spoken

(P.S. you usually defend Sony...)

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shutUpAndTakeMyMoney3990d ago

they should have never shown the box. Not even when e3 comes. It's ugly.

bestofthebest3990d ago

it looks like my cable box

One4U3989d ago

well it is the X"box"

Biohazard88603990d ago

Major nelson's is microsoft's puppet.

FamilyGuy3990d ago

"with that big hardware reveal still tucked under its skirt"

I lmmfao at this line

horndog3990d ago

So they didnt show forza or remedy's new game?? True that ghost and ea's are third party games but still games never the less. I hough it wasmade clear tht e3 would be about games. Look forward to it

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Majin-vegeta3990d ago (Edited 3990d ago )

Xbox:Sony where's your console?

Sony:Yea but what's the point in showing a console if you ain't got no games to demonstrate??

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yesmynameissumo3990d ago

Sony's focus was on...wait for it...GAMES. Coming out with that as the only topic (outside of tech specs, etc.) showed PlayStation as a brand is about video games. Microsoft showed the world the Xbox brand is about whatever can make Microsoft money. Glad it played out the way it did personally.

esemce3989d ago

Yeah now us real non fanboy gamers don't have to worry about choosing between two consoles at launch it's simple.

Hate Activision
Hate EA Sports
Hate Kinect
Hate TV
Hate Paying for simple MP
Hate Timed exclusives and dlc
Hate the lack of exclusives MS has given us since Kinect.

That's a lot of hate and I've still got some more.

cleft53990d ago (Edited 3990d ago )

Dude the xbox reveal proved you shouldn't make a console look like a betamax player. Seriously, what was Microsoft design team thinking. If Apple teaches us anything it's that you don't sacrifice form, you figure out a way to make form and function work.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

PassNextquestion55m ago(Edited 53m ago)

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

Profchaos54m ago(Edited 54m ago)

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto33m ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos9m ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg2h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos1h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion50m ago(Edited 47m ago)

I think if used correctly it could work well

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10111d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref10d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde10d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197210d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville10d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218310d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos10d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai11d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref10d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan10d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0079d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197211d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197210d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref10d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde10d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197210d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197210d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier10d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto10d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218310d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto10d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman10d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts10d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts9d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic9d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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