Microsoft admits they lost the console war with Xbox One

SemiAccurate writes "Xbox One is just announced, while Microsoft admits they have lost the war against Sony PlayStation 4 in the most subtle way during their “reveal event” May 21, 2013."

[Godmars290]

Getting a virus alert from the link.

[Sky_Walker]

Me too...my Norton went off like the 4th of July.

Edit: You night be right...my Norton has went off on me for visiting CNN before so I would not be surprised.

[Godmars290]

Could as well just be your/mine settings.

[DarkBlood]

i have norton 360, the max best you can get i believe? instead of the antivirus second tier package

i havent checked the link yet but i could to see if i get if if you suggest so?

[xxV0rschlaghammer]

it's a false positive.

[deadpoole]

Someone please explain which console is better for gaming.

And I mean using hardware specs of both consoles as a comparison metric.

[CRAIG667]

Why do people use Norton? it's awful!

[morganfell]

Didn't notice site issues as I am on Linux (Ubuntu) with Chrome but the article is actually fairly informative with a middle ground tech breakdown (not layman and not engineer).

[Aquanox]

Don't worry. Nothing to see here.

We can't make our minds before E3.

[nveenio]

This is actually a nice write up. And I'm not getting a virus warning, but I'm on a Mac right now, and so I don't even have anti-virus...

[loulou]

because of my gf, we get free kapersky... and that just blocked the site

[Retroman]

lol, everybody know this article is fake and now talking about Norton anti-virus haaaaaaaaaaaa

I'll put it out there guys bluntly!!!!!! whoever buy X1 is a damn fool!!!! simple as that.

[PiTCHBLaCK]

I use Windows defender in Win 8, It works good for me and no Virus warning on that website.

[NatureOfLogic]

Anyone else getting their n4g submissions blocked? I seem to be the only one.

[pixelsword]

Even if there was a virus, it's worth the virus.

[Muerte2494]

proponents were saying that the ESRAM would push it pass PS4 176GB/s.

"All wrong. The devil is deep in the details, remember the large chunk of eSRAM for the graphics? So the Xbox One system uses 16 pieces of Micron “D9PNZ” DDR3 memory modules on-board, a little Google search give us the exact model number being MT41J256M16HA-093, which is 4 Gbit density modules running at an I/O frequency at 1066 MHz, that’s DDR3-2133 data rate for those who don’t know, and these modules will provide 34.132 GB/s bandwidth under a dual-channel configuration. And thus, the eSRAM contributes over 166 GB/s bandwidth. However, the two numbers were added up for obvious marketing purpose, and in reality the two numbers should be seen in parallel with each other because, as we mentioned earlier, the GPU will treat the eSRAM as a very-fast last level cache, so the bandwidth here doesn’t serve the CPU cores at all."

This was just a PR move, and actually misleading. CPU doesn't benefit from the extra bandwidth, only the GPU.

[Starbucks_Fan]

I got an alert too.

[iamtehpwn]

saw this after I clicked the link, have no virus protection, fml.

[TwistedMetal]

a lot of people bash nortons but it actually works. them other virus packages dont work that well because i got a virus using the other stuff and had to reinstall the os and such just to get rid of it. sometimes some little computer tricks work to get rid of a virus and such but you get tired of searching for it and getting rid of it manualy. with norton you dontn have to do a dang thing catches everything all the time.

with that said xbox one lost next gen just need ignorant gamer fanboys to realise this and get the better consoles. but some are so stupid they get tricked by tv crap and sports crap they already have and they get fooled by kinect crap to. how is milo working for you guys now?

[Godmars290]

There are free AV programs out there.

http://us.avira.com/

[LackTrue4K]

Get get Microsoft essentials it's free!!! And works great!!

[Arai]

That's because Sony planted Agent Phil to sabotage XBone's reveal event :P

https://twitter.com/KazHira...

That's a fake account btw, time will tell how MS/Sony's choices pan out for them.
Maybe they have a winning formula maybe they don't.

[hulk_bash1987]

It's too early to call, these "articles" are pure and undeniable flamebait. Lets give Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo a chance to clarify and show us their real plans for Next Gen.

[YNWA96]

The big 3 have different visions. I am a gamer, but want more from my machine these days. Interesting features, I will probably get Xbox One, eventually PS4 too. Was never really a Nintendo fan but they did have some games you just had to play. I am sure though Microsoft were close to a lot of develepors when designing this, so there must be more to come. Sony was in a bad spot after PS3, so they had to tend to the people more so.... next few months should be fun...

[FriedGoat]

I didn't see any interesting features. PS4 for me, I want games not TV and crappy motion control.

[pabadamus1]

The article itself was actually a good read. I wouldn't go as far to say that MSFT has lost any battles but their reveal does show a skewed focus towards television entertainment. I am not an alarmist so I do not believe MSFT has abandoned core games or gamers but it does appear that our interests have become a smaller portion of the pie.

[GamersRulz]

Haha,they called Xbone (The big bulky boring black box) BBBBB or 5B for short!

Funny

[MoveTheGlow]

Right? And here we were months ago, watching Microsoft pick on Sony for not showing a black box. And then theirs looks like some late 80's Betamax player that lost its wood-grain finish after someone took it from their Grandma's house and moved cross-country. Meanwhile Sony starts posting teaser videos about their box, and even the blurry thing's more pleasing to the eye. Nice try, Xbone.

[PtRoLLFacE]

and i though i was alone haha no!...

[shutUpAndTakeMyMoney]

The are rebooting xbox and want to forget what it was. Now xbox 1 is something else.

[Syntax-Error]

Last time I checked the PS3 had better specs than the 360 and we saw who won that one, so STOP with the mindless comparisons. No one is going to know shit until E3. You people don't even know what the PS4 will look like. It's not like they haven't drop the ball in that dept before.

[Hicken]

Last time I checked, PS3 was ahead of the 360 in lifetime sales, even with a year less time on the market,and with a few more years of support to go, so stop with the uninformed comments.

It's almost a month before E3, and we know quite a bit already. If you don't know shit, that's your fault for remaining ignorant, as there's information aplenty to be found.

They dropped the ball on console looks before? When was that?

[miDnIghtEr20C_SfF]

Lol.... so now it's sales over quality. Have to love sony fans. That was bound to happen when two Forzas spanked GT5 in rating scores. About to happen with a new gen Forza versus a last gen GT6.

Also guess by Hicks thinking that Uncharted sucked because it didn't sell as much as other 360 exclusives. Lol..

[Waller]

C'mon, Syntax-Error. You know sales mean nothing, especially since Sony didn't make it up until they drastically dropped the price. It also took Sony seven years to catch up to Microsoft, that one year headstart not withstanding. This isn't a simple numbers game, and once fans start pulling sales figures to justify which system is better, you know it's a losing battle.

[SexyGamerDude]

Yeah, sales mean nothing. But the fact that MS wants to put restrictions on the gamer does. This isn't about sales or specs. It's about who cares for the gamer more. MS loses.

[PiTCHBLaCK]

What people forget is that it was MUCH harder to develop for the PS3 then the 360, also price point was higher.

The PS4 is coming out around the same time as XBO and is equally much easier to Develop for.

[SegaSaturn669]

Nonsense! Godmars has nothing to fear from viruses!

Case-in-point: http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Godmars290]

-__-;;;

[IntelligentAj]

Firefox and NoScript work wonders

[FATALVISI0N]

My Kaspersky went off to saying it's a phishing alert

[Kaneda]

I am on a MAC.. I got nothing...

[malokevi]

LMAO.

Wen't into the article expecting a quote from MS... didn't see one. Just some guy making preposterous claims.

MS will win. PS4 may ALSO win... but MS will come out on top. At least here in North America.

Gaming is an expensive hobby. Some of us have the money/resources that will make the Xbox360 the ULTIMATE gaming console. XBL is already looking leagues better then PSO, not to mention the media/apps/dash/tv/multiproces sing POWERHOUSE that is the new UI.

This is innovation. Couple that with an amazing suite of games (and as of yet unforeseeable advancements in the persistent world MMO field that Xbox Live will allow), and there is nothing that will stand in the way of this console.

Certainly not a few people constantly complaining on the internet about how they need to always be on the internet. Certainly not people who bash an as-of-yet undetermined used game policy (for both consoles). Certainly not people who rely on borrowing their friends games to play. And definitely not from impoverished/3rd world peoples who can't afford the base costs, never mind the internet access.

This product is not for everyone. Its for truly modern people who are always multi-tasking and love videogames at the same time. People like ME!

You can't handle it? WiiU and PS4 will be there for you to remain isolated from the ether.

[Psn800]

I used my Ipad4 no anti virus prob yeah crazy or what , yeah they have lost the console war when I went on to a hardcore Xbox site they all agreed barr one or two that ms have wrecked the Xbox .

[DivineAssault]

Great article.. I do believe it is intended for a different audience as well because they obviously turned their back on core gaming long ago & realize thats sonys playground

[iGAM3R-VIII]

agreed, it is more towards TV people who pay a somewhat to decent amount of games.

http://cdn2.dualshockers.co...

http://i.imgur.com/7tmSCjo....

http://playstationer.net/wp...

[gamelover5]

OMG I was dying of laughter on the last one I watched it in slow mo cause my internet was slow and it made it so much more hilarious

[Double_O_Revan]

Oh god that Airplane one was fantastic!

[CommonSenseGamer]

If Vita sales represent core gamer sales then I doubt MS could give a damn.

[Kingthrash360]

wow common why you always picking on the vita? go play with your tablet and save for the 5B

[KwietStorm_BLM]

How convenient that you use the Vita, a completely irrelevant system in context, in your argument lol.

[Objective]

Agreed that Vita is an irrelevant system.

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

Yeah no surprise he brings it up all the time considering...

http://n4g.com/news/1145528...

lol

[kenshiro100]

What does the Vita have to do with the article?

Go get some fresh air.

[AJ Hartley]

Commonsensegamer you are the biggest whoppa on here read your other comments haha utter nonsense your name should be.

[Ju]

Looks like that's the new baseline for the one expectation left ;)

True, it'll be tough to beat the Vita with that one.

[NarooN]

>mentions Vita even though it has nothing to do with 5B or PS4
>fails to realize even the Vita is a better console than the 5B

[Legion]

Leo Yim is saying that Xbox has already lost the console war with Xbox one... NOT Microsoft.

Totally speculative interpretation of events at the reveal that have been turned into some false claim that Microsoft has bowed out before the players have hit the field.

The web sight is called http://semiaccurate.com/ for a reason. They don't care about being correct.

[joeorc]

really?

They are saying it because of Microsofts focus!
"
The web sight is called http://semiaccurate.com/ for a reason. They don't care about being correct. "

read and learn

On Target Technology News

IS THE SLOGAN

About Us

SemiAccurate is a technology news site focusing not just on the new shiny stuff but the how and why behind the technology we use. We cover a wide spectrum of topics from hardware reviews, theoretical technology, production, security and enterprise products.

http://semiaccurate.com/abo...

and the breakdown is pretty d@mn correct, because they saw the system opened up, how else would they know the make and model numbers of the chip i/o or the exact freaking hard drive model.

they know more about the hardware than you..that is the truth.

THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT FROM A HARDWARE PERSPECTIVE NOT FROM A MARKET SALES PERSPECTIVE!

IT IS CLEAR if you look at the hard ware from bothe companies who built the machine mainly for gaming, and who built a entertainment box...that is the truth Sony' ps4 is a concentrated for games, Microsoft's hardware is concentrated toward living room entertainment, which does include games but is not the main focus! because if it was your box would not have three OS's running all at the same time eating system resources.

for a games machine!

[DeadlyFire]

I agree.

Halo 5 drops and Microsoft will survive.

To me just glancing at all three perspective consoles. It looks like PS4 will have a PS2 generation boom this time around. As all eyes are on Sony. Xbox One could do amazing well once its games are set for launch. Its graphics while yes less than PS4 will still be stellar to console diehards.

[ZBlacktt]

How about you learn to read kid. You like the guy who wrote the story is just saying they lost based on what MS talked about. It's his "opinion".

Seen your reply below.... Just go. You jump the gun and now look like a fool.

[Legion]

@joeorc

The title... "Microsoft admits they lost the console war with Xbox One" a totally false statement that Yim tries to make you believe by a few words here and a few MS decisions there.... but not a single truth to the fact that MS has admitted losing before the game started. It is bull shit. Regardless of what some of the hardware specs present the story itself is bullcrap.

[joeorc]

" Yim tries to make you believe by a few words here and a few MS decisions there.... but not a single truth to the fact that MS has admitted losing before the game started. It is bull shit. Regardless of what some of the hardware specs present the story itself is bullcrap. "

Look while i agree from a stand point of Microsoft PR not out right saying it, that does not take away from the fact in a Q&A with microsoft engineer's stating what the chips GPU instruction/ clock cycle was. that was specific enough to state what it could do.

in the Q&A engineering event, you know the guys who developed and designed the d@mn hardware stated

"So the GPU can do 768 operations in a single cycle, that means 768 scalar ALUs based off the GCN architecture."

that is 12 compute unit's! while Sony's system has 18 compute unit's you cannot be any more direct to the point then that.

Look the fact that Microsoft did not come right out and say from a hardware perspective that their system is not as robust as the PS4 does not mean it does not take away from the fact that it is!

does that take away from the system's enjoyment, no, but it does show you or give you a guage of performance of the system.

on paper the PS3 was a more powerful system but unless 3rd party development studios has a Game engine made for the cell, it was not going to take any real advantage of such processor's functionality!

you can call it how ever you want it, but the truth of the matter is Sony's PS4 is concentrated as a games machine, and Microsoft's is an all in one computer entertainment system. Nothing wrong with that, hell the PS3 is an all in one computer entertainment system and at the very start you seen all the flack it was said about the PS3 right from the start and exactly what is being said about the XboxOne aside from not being hard to develop for. which is a good thing that its not HARD TO DEVELOP for

[Legion]

@joeorc

Listen to yourself.

The point is not wether MS or PS3 is going to win or which is more powerful. The point here is that he stated "Microsoft admits they lost the console war with Xbox One" which they did not in any fashion. he might think they are going to lose... but in no way. Zero, Nil, did MS come out and hold a press conference to say they were admitting defeat. It just didn't happen.

Did Nintendo admit defeat when they presented the Wii to the public against the Ps3 and Xbox 360 specs? No... because they knew what they focused their product on and what they were going to be able to accomplish.

Thinking Microsoft might have some clue what they are doing... even though I myself might not agree with many portions of it.

[longcat]

Microsoft has been stepping down their gaming focus for a while now. Also, it was always known that the xbox was a trojan horse for them to eventually deliver media content to the living room.

I just wonder if the market has changed and their plans have not....i haven't watched tv in years

[Godmars290]

The only Trojan Horse that worked in recent history was the DVD drive on the PS2. Because it was applied subtly. Unconsciously. Not rammed down the public's throat like MS has done with Kincet and everything else.

[adorie]

Blu-Ray trojan horse also won. It was such a victory for Sony and the BDA that even the Xbox One has it inside.

[SegataSanshiro]

How's the Kinect shoved down our throats? Nobody is forcing you or anybody else to buy it or play it. Everyone knows its for casuals and its games suck.

[xursz]

To answer your question, Segata, XBone apparently doesn't work without Kinect. So if you want the console and not Kinect, it is by definition "shoved down your throat".

[Waller]

Xursz, it's not shoved down our throats. Just because it's included with every Xbox One and (possibly) required to operate, doesn't mean you have to use it. Just have it sitting on your TV and be done with it. Nobody is forcing you to buy Kinect-only titles or even forcing developers to put Kinect in their games.

[Godmars290]

...

http://youtu.be/XbQVaupPS80

How...how do you even...

[PiTCHBLaCK]

@ Waller

Forcing you to HAVE something you may not want or use is Forcing it down your throat.

[WitWolfy]

The title is so misleading!!!

[ShoryuSwordsman]

I always look at the article pic at the bottom right corner of the article. The title actually threw me off as well, then I saw that it was an opinion piece, and set my expectations accordingly :p

[NameRemoved0017]

Seriously a 500GB laptop harddrive with 8MB cache 5400 rpm thats so shitty.

[Axonometri]

Didn't they admit they were shooting for average?

[Bumpmapping]

GAME OVER.

[dark-kyon]

flawess victory.

[BLKxSEPTEMBER]

Screw MS I am now a proud PS4 fanboy!!!! When I get home I'm Gunna jump on my 360 and tell all my friends to kiss my PS4 Loving Xbox 1 hating ass!

[Sky_Walker]

And when COD Ghost is released you will back on Live telling bad mom jokes LOL.

You kids are like a broken record.

Edit: Come over Steam and stop stressing your young life on consoles ;)

[BLKxSEPTEMBER]

Oh man your making this to easy...first of all I can guarantee that I'm ur age or older. Second I can guarantee that I've been a live member as long as u if not longer. (Gamer tags DeexThaxGee and blkxseptember). Third I am a member of steam (gamer tag deethagee) so u can miss me with that "kid" bullshit. As far as me sounding like a broken record about me hating Xbox I challenge u to go thru my 200+ comments and show me where I bash or troll the 360 or MS...never assume anything because u only make a ass outta you...

[AJ Hartley]

Sky walker got served lil biatch haha

[Neonridr]

@BLKxSEPTEMBER - I think you give off the impression of being young because you use words like ur instead of your. Based on the way you do converse, I would be interested to know how old you are. How do you know you are older than Sky_Walker?

[gazgriff2k12]

no one on here cares about pc's on this site GTFOOH

[Waller]

I'm...I'm pretty sure this is why anyone who's not a Sony fanboy/girl doesn't like this site.

[Skate-AK]

I just want games. My TV already has YouTube and all that

[Bonerboy]

My god that article made my brain hurt.

My PC already does all that extra crap that I don't need or want, and 99% of TV is complete shit.

Ms sure is taking a beating at every turn. I havent seen one "positive" yet. Its all quite captivating.

[KingKevo]

That's why it's called 'One'. Of course one reason is that it wants to be the 'one' thing that all entertainment devices in your living room are connected to, but also because it's a new start for Xbox and an Xbox for an all new audience. Xbox One marks the begining of the Xbox brand as an entertainment brand rather that the previous gaming brand it used to be.

I'm glad everyone realised it so quickly and that most people on here are very vocal in expressing their thoughts. We have a right to be pissed, BUT we, the gamers, are just a small part of their targeted audience and they can very well give a fuck about us. So the only thing we can do is say 'fuck you' to MS and don't buy that thing. I'm done with MS and it won't change at E3. This event was their chance and they failed, because they are not gonna change their long-time concept. They will now try to trick us a bit at E3, but a few years down the road games won't matter to theam at all. Look at the 360 and you'll know what I'm talking about. Get a PS4 and be a happy gamer again and let's forget about the PS3 vs. 360 'console war'. We happily welcome you on PlayStation to build the best and biggest gaming community out there.

[JackBNimble]

Amen brother

[DeadlyFire]

One ring to rule them all? I vote we throw it in Mordor. :P

Hardware isn't always the deciding factor in a generation. PS2 had slightly inferior hardware to Xbox and Gamecube, but it did way beyond both consoles. If Microsoft could pull something like that out of their hat then they will do okay. It depends on how well WiiU/Xbox One fight over the casual market. Sony has a mix of everything on their console. Casual, Indie, and hardcore.

I expect Sony to rule this generation with sales though. WiiU and Xbox One are nothing like what consumers have expected. PS4 is exactly like what consumers want. Controller redesigned, XBL like Network features hinted, most diverse IPs on a console some new and some old.

[PiTCHBLaCK]

And much easier to Develop for than the PS3, thats a plus for developers.

[DeadlyFire]

True.

Still though Microsoft needs to do more than throw EA Sports, Kinect, and Call of Duty out there for me to buy their console.

Froza is nice, and Quantom Break was a split second of game footage.

[MuhammadJA]

It will, however, outsell the PS4. Casuals eat that stuff up.

[Shadow Flare]

Nintendo thought that with the wii u

[ThatCanadianGuy514]

The casual have been slowly migrating to Phone games and tablets.About the same pace as the wii has been fizzing out.

Don't count on them dropping $400 to switch channels with their voice.

[Shadow Flare]

-double post-

[yewles1]

Isn't this a parody site?

[SpartanQ8]

"Is PlayStation 4 really more powerful?"

Yes it is.

But what about microsoft core gamers ?

Microsoft : "deal with it"

.. Hate you m$ :) you ruined xbox for me

[Prcko]

so i guess that's it
ps4 all the way then

[C0MPUT3R]

4 > 1 simple.

[DeadlyFire]

I thought they understood that when they launched Xbox 360 to compete against PS3.

I was expecting Xbox 420 or something like that to compete with PS4.

[claud3]

Finally, they reveal something worthy off attention

[SegataSanshiro]

Get a saturn, don't be a casual

[JimmyDanger]

I've got two!

On topic - for such a negative headline, most of the article actually made me pretty interested in the hardware side of things. And he did a pretty good job of making the OS triforce sound like an appealing approach. True parallelism. Whoa.

I'm really looking forward to seeing how the different architectures perform.

[joeorc]

"On topic - for such a negative headline, most of the article actually made me pretty interested in the hardware side of things. And he did a pretty good job of making the OS triforce sound like an appealing approach. True parallelism. Whoa."

The site looks at it from strictly a software and hardware perspective, and i like you am very interested in seeing what Microsoft intends to do with the 3 OS's software, and what app's we can expect on the new XboxOne, for the slagging Microsoft is taking right now, this is exactly the kind of slagging that sony went through with the PS3. when you make an all in one entertainment device you will indeed get this kinda perception, about the product and Microsoft must have expected this. I wish them luck in their development of their new platform.

[lilryanps3]

I also have a Saturn :D Microsoft's xbox one conference was hilariously bad.

[JohnDread]

Great article. Expresses my thoughts on the Xbox One exactly, plus it delivers explanation on a technological level, which I myself couldn't provide. I'm actually surprised that it has already been proven that Sony indeed created the more powerful machine, although you could assume so, given the fact that Xbox comes with that semi-useful peripheral Kinect. To me it's curious that Sony once again put focus on sheer power as it did with the PS3 (and we know PS3 didn't quite take the top spot in sales).
On a side note, I suddenly have huge hopes for the Wii U. I believe this presentation is pretty much the best thing that could happen to Nintendo at a time like this.

[gazgriff2k12]

SONY hasn't focused on power far from it. its focused on games, the ps4 is more powerful than its xbox 1 but thats only because microsoft focused on entertainment

[Brazz]

yep... for all info that i read microsoft sacrificed power for 1 fuction to get more multi-task power... plus, they have made a hevy OS (some say 3gb memory, other say 2gb memory), they got ddr3 (good for multi task and cpu, inferior for GPU)...
In the other hand, Ps4 got DDR5, great for GPU, and focused in 1 task at time whit a simple OS... (not saying that the ps4 can't do multi task, multi task isn't the main focus, but sure ps4 will be able to do multitask.)

I realy want to see Multiplat. games, Ps4 is loking easyer to work then Xbox one... Easyer to work + more power = better game? or will things be at the same level?

[Upbeat]

HDD is pretty slow for next gen

[1nsomniac]

No they didn't! That would be commercial suicide before its even started.

Yes they have lost it so far, but they havnt admitted that at all.

[ZBlacktt]

What a total misleading title. I went looking for MS saying they lost to Leo ( guy who wrote this already done 20 times over story ) saying they lost. Way to get hits Leo. Way to get hits.

[FrigidDARKNESS]

lmao t these ridiculous fanboy articles nd thread. desparate times for some folks.

[isyourhouseonfire]

MS has lost next gen, just like they lost the current generation. Nevermind the higher sales figures in both consoles and games as well as the overall higher customer satisfaction rating....

[titletownrelo]

hey Microsoft, since you no longer give two f*cks about your gaming audience, why not give Halo to Playstation? (NOT gonna happen, I know XD)

[GoldPunch-TR]

This: http://i.minus.com/iBzvb2JS...

[BLKxSEPTEMBER]

@Neon....So because I used the word "ur' instead of you're in a internet gaming thread that makes me seem young? Ur logic is seriously flawed. This is not English class were I need to use correct grammar. On top of that I never used the word "ur" in my original post which is the one he replied to which kind of makes ur point null and void. And obviously ur reading comprehension is not all there because I never said that I was older than him it was more of me making a point that I'm his age or older thus not a "kid" as he assumed. Maybe you should ask him why he would think I'm a child. I am a grown man with a grown man job, a wife, and kids of my own. Trust me when I tell you that I use proper grammar were it counts and n4g ain't it!!! And one more thing, his user name is sky walker...no grown man will have such a childish name. My user name has a real meaning behind it that most people wouldn't know about unless they google its true meaning. Most 'kids" have no idea what or who black September was...grown man shit.

[monkey nuts]

Black September? Were they not a disco group from the 70's?

[Saints94]

The title is misleading but from the other sites I check on it's all saying the same thing for me. Xbox One is a entertainment system, and I want a true gamer system.

[SuperSteve]

I suggest you go buy a PS2, because that was the last of the "true gamer systems".

Both the PS3 and Xbox 360 have evolved into multi-purpose devices this generation, and that trend is only going to continue with both the PS4 and Xbox One, so you had better embrace it, or find another hobby.

[zippycup]

i think the ps4 being more powerful wont make a difference deves will still make the game to run on all platforms and then tweak it a bit per system

its simple if you like halo,gears of war have cable and love sports get an Xbox if you love PS+ god of war uncharted get a ps4

me i love my ps3 so will be getting it because i use netflix hulu and crunchyroll and everything else i download from eztv i don't even have an antenna on my TV

don't worry about people saying this system better than that one just get what you want based on your wants or if all your friends are getting a Xbox one and you like playing whit them then get a Xbox one or vise a versa whit ps4

[MikeyDucati1]

EDIT: mistake

[Jek_Porkins]

Wow is the title misleading, Microsoft never said anything about losing anything...lol

If you don't want to use anything apart from the gaming aspects, then don't.

[VitaOwner]

They don't mean Microsoft explicitly conceded defeat. They mean that their actions and the direction Microsoft seems to be moving is away from just trying to compete with systems with games as the main focus (PS4, but trying to beat out all devices in the living room. They are putting too many eggs in their basket and they are alienating the hardcore gamers in the process.

[Jek_Porkins]

I said it was a misleading title and it is, I don't care what some people think, I think for myself. I want to get an Xbox One, it doesn't really matter to me what some people on the internet thinks about that, or how many consoles A sells compared to B.

[daedra]

jerk_porkins shhhhhh the sony fanboys are delusional, and thick headed.

the one will come out first just like 360, and the sony fans will still be saying, nahhhh it came in last

[Highlife]

@Jeb
Jeb says
"Backwards compatibility is a huge factor for me, I own a lot of games and will still go back and play them all from time to time. When the new consoles launch, I cant have 6 or 7 consoles hooked up, so I'm glad Wii U has backwards compatibility. Hopefully we'll get confirmation on the next Xbox and PlayStation having full, true backwards compatibility.

It might even be a deal breaker as far as I'm concerned, because the first year or so of a new console doesn't really offer the best games, so I'll want to be able to play current gen games on those new systems for while."

So are you still getting one???

[Jek_Porkins]

Of course! I mean it sucks, but I want new consoles, I have a Wii U, and I'll get an Xbox One at launch and a PS4 next year most likely, as Sony has quite a few solid titles coming to PS3 this year, so I'm not in a hurry to upgrade that.

My Xbox One will just go in the living room, put the old Xbox 360 in my room or office I guess. Since nobody but Nintendo are offering backwards compatibility, we're all equally screwed with the new consoles in that way.

Oh and it's not Jeb, it's Jek.

[kingPoS]

Even my PS3 had a wig out over security certificates.
Dem darn script kiddies... [shakes fist angrily in the air]

The article was fairly non biased. MS seems to be gunning pretty hard for the livingroom. All the kinect and dvr like features seem point towards that.

Question is... can the console function meaningfully at all with a complete lack of an internet connection?

[MikeyDucati1]

Since when gamers look to E3 as the last word? That's foolish

[azazel665]

I'm scared of the virus warning. What does the article say?

[PurpHerbison]

False positive or not. You take the link down IMMEDIATELY. What kind of joint you running here N4G?

[STGuy1040]

This is the best write up I've read so far. Good job!

[forum67]

Congrats ! you got virus !

[PiTCHBLaCK]

There is no Virus. Wasted a bubble for this comment LOL

[forum67]

Yes , bubbles are very precious just like lollipop.

oops , I wasted again. Really :/

[ninjahunter]

Lol, Console war hasnt even started....

[vigilante_man]

No trailer in 3 months in response to PS4 awesome trailers. I was suspicious. But there was a glimmer of hope. That has been well and truly dashed this week.

We will see many cool integration trailers but not spectacular from MS. I also expect many new features and cool PS Vita integration from Sony but with kick-ass new trailers.

The WiiU & PS Vita have been offered a lifeline.

I love awesome game trailers and hope to see many at E3 from both sides.

I do think MS can create some innovative entertainment features over the next 5 years or so with the One. But just for now I'll concentrate on games.