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Major Nelson on Twitter: How long is the XboxReveal event tomorrow? The show will be an hour long

Not 2 hours, but just 1.

MrBeatdown3991d ago

The Spike TV listing says it's an hour too.

http://www.spike.com/tv-sch...

There's a half hour GTTV thing after.

GameCents3991d ago (Edited 3991d ago )

Just bring the darn thing already

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Cueil3991d ago

The Xbox 360 is also nearly 8 year old and long past it's natural cycle... Microsoft has been ramping up for the next system for the past year or so

MurDocINC3991d ago

Too bad it's at 1pm EST, middle of a work day. :(

evilunklebud3991d ago

ps3_pwns

isn't it your bedtime? run along, now.

EVILDEAD3603991d ago

Watching everything on Xbox Live and DVRing the Spike/GT stuff on cable just in case.

1 Hour pre-show on GameTrailers pre-show w/ Keighley & crew

Followed by...

1 Hour Xbox Next Gen Revealed main show

Followed by...

1 Hour GameTrailers com post-show Keighley and Don Mattrick interview

Followed by...

1 hour Twitch.tv post-show live show with Major Nelson & guests.

Can't wait to finally get this show on the road

Evil

chrismichaels043991d ago

@evildead360 - Pretty funny when the post game show is longer than the actual event lol.

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nirwanda3990d ago

@murdoc
I know I'm lucky its on when I'm not in work in the UK, you would have thought something as important to MS would have been planned for a Saturday or a sunday

chrismichaels043990d ago

@SMGP - I appreciate the metaphor, but this isnt Game 7 of the World Series. Its a video game conference. And in the world of video games, its pretty disappointing that Microsoft is going to be spending more time talking about the conference rather than actually showing us games in the conference itself. Id rather have Microsoft spend that extra time actually showing us more next gen games. Honestly, what real gamer is more interested in hearing about tech specs and apps over actual games?

EVILDEAD3603990d ago (Edited 3990d ago )

'Pretty funny when the post game show is longer than the actual event lol.'

Nah, if you actually looked at what's scheduled to be shown it's between 3 different sources.

GT, MS, and Twitch. They were just smart enough to not have them coincide. The post even interview from GT is standard stuff.

But, I'd rather the event go an hour and have nothing but content than to have two with a lot of fluff.

Either way, the event is on Spike and I'm assuming it's commercial free. That costs an arm and a leg. Compared to just streaming it over the net.

E3 is where the magic is going to happen for both consoles.

Evil

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Conan-O-Brady3991d ago

Did spike cover the PS4 reveal or is this just a personal favor for MS?

pixelsword3991d ago (Edited 3991d ago )

That depends if Sony wanted Spike to cover the reveal.

And who watches Spike?

minimur123991d ago

this is the first time i've heard of spike, what is it?

Blacktric3991d ago

"And who watches Spike?"

Target audience of Xbox.

3-4-53991d ago

People who like to fight other people watch spike.

snipes1013991d ago

Man this place is just a wealth of original Xbox and Microsoft jokes.

Wenis3991d ago

My favorite show from Spike is MXC.. too bad they never show it anymore :(

FITgamer3991d ago

People use to watch spike when UFC was there. Now they have Bellator which is the only reason i watch it.

Docknoss3991d ago

Spike had covered the MS E3 for the past two years maybe three. But not Sony or Nintendo

Blackdeath_6633990d ago

sony streamed it themselves

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solar3991d ago

only 1 hour? Sony win next gen confirmed!

zeddy3991d ago

55 minutes of kinect 2 followed by 5 minutes of cod.

imdaboss13991d ago

epic meltdown tomrrow i cant wait lol

malokevi3991d ago

Something something xbox360 something something else always online something something Kinect something something PS4 something else chicken sandwich.

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Prcko3991d ago

There will be a 1 hour post stream on Twitch with Major and Guests.
that is probably second h

Evil_Ryu3991d ago

i just read a article that said 2....what is it damn it!??!?!??!

greenpowerz3991d ago (Edited 3991d ago )

The TV broadcast/live stream is an hour with post events going on after.

MSFT is not going to pay for two hours of TV time to announce things they are saving for E3 spots.

This reveal event is not E3 showing off games it's just a console reveal and some basic displays of its hardware with some software showing it off.

MSFT isn't going to waste money on TV time trying to fluff up their reveal with things they need to talk about in later shows and or things they would like to do later on. An hour on hardware using games to do so can still be much more than a hour of mixed bags.

There seems to be many PS3 fanboys happy about this but it means nothing. There will be interviews and websites still sharing on it after the reveal and the developer embargo will be lifted as well which is more important.

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ma1asiah3991d ago (Edited 3991d ago )

@ WeMilk

ummm nope you would be wrong

To get the hype train steaming along, Aaron Greenberg has teased “tons of exclusives” and “world premieres” for Microsoft’s E3 conference, stating the presentation will be “all about the games.”

The 21st/22nd depending on where in the world you are is all about the console, illumiroom, Kinect 2.0 and maybe apps....the games might be teased in a sizzle roll but MS are saving the game reveals for E3.

This has been common knowledge for like the best part of a week now.

ziggurcat3991d ago

"This reveal event is not E3 showing off games it's just a console reveal and some basic displays of its hardware with some software showing it off."

you mean exactly what the PS4 reveal was, which you consistently trolled.

chrismichaels043991d ago

@greenpowerz - don't blame people's disappointments on "fanboyism". For weeks, all we've heard on these forums from Xbox fans was "wait until May 21st". Now that May 21st is here and people don't like what they are hearing, the excuse is changing to "E3 is for games, wait until E3". If MS disappoints at E3, what will be the next excuse? "Wait until the system launches"? "Wait until the system reaches its 1 year anniversary"? People don't want to hear anymore excuses. People want to see exciting next gen games.

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andrewsqual3991d ago

This isn't news. It was always 1 hour long.
I feel sorry for the people tomorrow at 7pm who are going to be saying "Is that it?"

_-EDMIX-_3991d ago

I'm sorry but I'm starting to get a feeling .that you're absolutely correct. with the rumored 20 minutes being spent talking about SmartGlass it's starting to make me really worry about the amount of games we going to see.

I'm starting to lower my expectations by a lot. this is not the same Microsoft that was trying to beat Sony core games, this is the Microsoft that is casual and is trying to beat Nintendo.

I mean many of you guys should have guessed smartglass would be there did anyone really believe it would be for 360? with what games? 360 is dead to Microsoft.

GalacticEmpire3991d ago

Not long enough to give us much really is it? There's still going to be lots up in the air after the event tommorow. Wish they went all out with a two hour show like sony, hopefully we'll at least get a new IP or something.

GameCents3991d ago

By us you mean whom exactly? I mean lets dispense with the pretences here.

GribbleGrunger3991d ago

Actually, I don't think there's a whiff of bias in his comment. Sounds like a genuine guy to me

CEOSteveBallmer3990d ago

By us gamers genius. I think your trying to find negative bias in his comments because you know hes a Sony fan. What matters is what he said in his comment, not what his thinking on the back of his head.

ma1asiah3991d ago

Like I just posted tomorrow is about the console NOT about the games that is what E3 is going to be about, Aaron Greenberg has already confirmed this. So an 1 hour to talk specs and apps is a lot really.

duli143991d ago

why not talk about the games at both events? Sony is doing it. Personaly I think MS don't have any first party games to show because they are not up to par. Seems like the rumours about MS falling behind with their games are true.

torchic3990d ago

Sony spent two hours giving tons of info about both the console and the games, and yet they have much more to show at the E3 show regarding both.

1 hour is disappointing. I was hoping they'd spend a bit of time on Illumroom and tell us more about it.

oh well.

denawayne3991d ago

Like Sony showed off tons of games. I remember a lot of social crap and a lot developers talking about what the PS4 can do.

B1663r3991d ago

IIRC Sony only showed three games. The rest were engine sizzle reels, but no games.

Also, there was very little in the way of exclusives...

InMyOpinion3990d ago

And they didn't even show their console.

AngelicIceDiamond3990d ago

Yep pretty much. Some games, the controller and the specs. Good show but it got its point clear.

Btw I love how allot people have this mentality "think like Sony."

they're not Sony. There's a reason why both MS and Sony have install bases and its fans.

I'm tired of this "Sony did this" and "Sony did that" "How come MS isn't doing what Sony doing"

whah, whah, 90% of people here are gonna troll and spin everything that they show off tomorrow. Why watch it? Why, why waste your time?

And how does anyone know if an hour is enough or not? MS can have great pacing at its conference and I'm pretty sure they'll get to everything just fine. They built a campus for godsakes.

rainslacker3991d ago (Edited 3991d ago )

@denawayne

Sony showed off 9 games, mostly in depth, at their reveal. 4 are definitely exclusives, with two of those exclusives being new IP's. So not really sure what reveal conference you were watching.

@galactic

It all depends on how they use that time. Sony took it's time during their reveal to talk market strategy and importance of new features to their ecosystem in detail, as well as showed off quite a bit of actual running gameplay. MS may be presenting differently to focus just on the games, but not get to much into detail with hardware or ecosystem. For instance, everyone is familiar enough with XBL to not have to explain it too much.

I wouldn't doubt that some rumors are put to rest though.

Edit @ below
Obviously they didn't go all out, but they sure did start with a big wager. If they had gone all out, their recent console teaser wouldn't have been as effective.

Sitdown3991d ago (Edited 3991d ago )

Hahaha.....Sony went all out? If that was truly the case we would have a release date, I would have been able to preorder my ps4,and Sony would have limited to no new information to present at E3. Gone all out, and we don't even know what the console looks like. I enjoy Sony, but will turn a blind eye to the facts....they have about left to reveal, and so will Microsoft.

Cueil3991d ago

seems from what I understand that E3 will be totally about games so I'm guess a couple of world premiers and that's it for games they'll use this to show off the new features of XBL and maybe to announce specs and any kind of info to get us reved up for E3

DOMination-3990d ago

Sonys show was two hours long because they talk a lot of tedious corporate garbage instead of showing stuff. They talked about Vita for ten minutes at the start before even getting to the point. Then 15 mins talking about what gaikai might do if it ever gets developed. They didnt even show anything.. probably because it had only just been greenlit in their own words.. pointless!

MS won't have five montages, or idiots like the guy who announced the infamous trailer. They won't talk for ten minutes only to show a tech demo of a face or a year old final fantasy video. MS will just show stuff. And you can show a lot in one hour.

Kingdom Come3990d ago

You'd have proffered a two hour conference full of unnecessary video montage's...?

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BabyTownFrolics3991d ago

who cares how long it is? as long as its enough time to detail hardware specs, show games, and dispel any untruths.

Kaizin5143991d ago

You're right, this isn't E3, but BabyTownFrolics is right. Essentially, they could detail hardware, show a few games, and dispel some stuff in a single hour given they don't go crazy talking about how successful Xbox 360 was and fluff up their event with it.

Although yes, we will likely see a lot more in terms of actual games at E3, Microsoft still should show off a little something so as to not ignore the fact it is still a gaming console.

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-Foxtrot11h ago

Microsoft have Obsidian but I feel it's Bethesda who just don't want to play ball as they've always said they want to do it themselves.

Once MS bought Zenimax in 2020 they should have put the Outer Worlds 2 on the back burner, allow Bethesda to finish off its own Space RPG with Starfield (despite totally different tone why have two in your first party portfolio with two developers who's gameplay is a tad similar) and got Obsidian for one of their projects to make a spiritual successor to New Vegas.

When the Elder Scrolls VI is finished Bethesda can then onto the main numbered Fallout 5 themselves.

The Outer Worlds 2 started development in 2019 so putting it on the back burner wouldn't have been the end of the world, they'd have always come back to it once Fallout was done and it would have been nicely spaced out from Starfields release once they had most likely stopped supporting it and all the expansions were released.

If they did this back in 2020 when they bought Zenimax and the game had a good, steady 4 - 5 years development, you might have seen it release in 2025.

We are literally going to be waiting until 2030 at the very earliest for Fallout 5 and all they seem bothered about is pushing Fallout 76.

RaidenBlack9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

Its not just only Todd not playing ball.
Obsidian have made a name for themselves in delivering stellar RPGs, but most famous once have always been sequels/spin-offs to borrowed IPs like KOTOR 2, Neverwinter Nights 2, Fallout: New Vegas, Stick of Truth etc.
Obsidian wants to invest more in their own original IPs like Outer Worlds or Pillars of Eternity with Avowed.
Similar to what Bluepoint & inXile wants to do or Kojima is doing (i.e not involving anymore in Konami's IPs).
So yea, even if New Vegas has the most votes from 3D Fallout fans, Obsidian just wants to do their own thing, like any aspiring dev studio and MS is likely currently respecting that.
But a future Fallout game from Obsidian will surely happen. Founder Feargus Urquhart has already stated an year ago that they're eager to make a new Fallout game with Bethesda, New Vegas 2 or otherwise. Urquhart was the director of the very first 1995's Fallout game after all.
And don't forget Brian Fargo and his studio inXile, as Brian Fargo was the director of Fallout's 1988 predecessor: Wasteland

KyRo5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

Obsidian should take over the FO IP. They're do far better with it than Bethesda who hasn't made a great game for almost 15 years

Duke195h ago(Edited 5h ago)

I disagree. Part of these games is the support for the mod community. If they move to releasing a "next game" every 2 or 3 years, the modding support plummets and the franchises turn into just another run of the mill RPG.

Make the games good enough to withstand the test of time, to keep people coming back to them and expanding on them with mod support.

--Onilink--2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

I dont think anyone is saying they need to come out every 2 years (not to mention almost no game is released that quickly anymore)

By the time Fallout 5 comes out, it will be more than 15 years since Fallout 4 came out (same with ES6 coming out 15 years after Skyrim). Even if you want to use F76 as the metric for the most recent release, that one came out in 2018. It will be a miracle if F5 comes out before 2030

The point is that for a studio that doesnt seem to operate with multiple teams doing several projects at once, that their projects normally take 4-5 years as a minimum, and that now they even added Starfield to the rotation, it becomes a 15+ years waiting period between releases for each series, which doesnt make sense. Imagine that Nintendo only released a mainline Mario or Zelda game every 15 years…

They either need to start developing more than 1 project at a time, let someone else take a crack at one of the IPs or significantly reduce their development times

Duke191h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Why should someone else take a crack at one of the IPs? Look at what happened to Final Fantasy as a recent example - there is pretty clear FF fatigue setting in because they are now pumping out titles in the franchise every few years. Pumping out more games faster doesn't always make a series better.

There are plenty of options to make new games, not just create more titles in the same universe at a faster pace.

mandf2h ago

Yeah I’m going to say it, who cares about the modding community when making a game? Half the time developers only tolerate modders because they fix there game for them.

Skuletor4h ago

Yeah, let's all advocate for smaller gaps between series' releases, then we'll probably get headlines about how the series have dropped in quality and they could have benefited from more time in the oven. Let them cook.

SimpleSlave3h ago

"how the series have dropped in quality and they could have benefited from more time in the oven" So every Bethesda game then? Got it.

Listen, I would agree if this was about From Software or something, but Bethesda?

🤣

C'mon now. What timeline are you from?

Skuletor1h ago

Think about it, they're already bug filled messes on their current schedule, can you imagine how much worse it would be if they rushed things?

Duke191h ago

I mean you aren't wrong. People are going to complain about anything

isarai3h ago

Hows about you focus on quality, just a thought 🤷‍♂️

Sciurus_vulgaris2h ago

Bethesda [or Microsoft] would have to reallocate internal and external studios towards fallout and elder scrolls titles. Bethesda has the issue of developing 2 big IPs that are large RPGs on rotation. If you want more Fallout and Elder Scrolls, development will have to be outsourced.

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