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Sony PlayStation 4 Riding Wave Of Twice The Social Media Buzz Of New Microsoft Xbox

Forbes - Sony was smart to get the head start on Microsoft in a next gen console battle that figures to be a two-company race, as Nintendo struggles to build momentum for Wii U. According to Jen Handley, COO and co-creator of Fizziology, PlayStation is currently seeing almost twice as much social chatter as the next gen Xbox.

“Microsoft will have the upper hand after its official showcase next Tuesday IF they also present the design, but it’s rumored that they will wait until their E3 press conference,” said Handley.

jagiii3995d ago

Microsoft will lose the battle before the first fight if they go always-on.

NeverEnding19893995d ago (Edited 3995d ago )

Well luckily leaks have all but confirmed that to be false.

And the article has a good point. PS4 remained in the news for 3-4 weeks after the announcement and then naturally dipped in popularity. The next Xbox will very likely (unless M$ somehow train wrecks), ride that wave into E3. It'll be interesting to see how both companies maintain interest in their console from June until release.

yewles13995d ago

"Well luckily Adam Orth's firing assured it to be scrapped"

Fixed.

greenpowerz3995d ago (Edited 3995d ago )

@ neverending...

Yeah that's even with the PS4 revealed with info on it vs The unannounced Xbox with zero deteals LMAO

Xbox buzz is going to get alot louder once the 720 is on even and fair grounds with both consoles being announced with the xbox brand being more popular in the biggest market.

MSFT has has kept their plans secreton on a level not seen for any product that I can remember. They're in to win it and they must have something so mindblowing they can't risk copycats due to the investment.

Xbox fans will be buzzing about it and the media will follow along for hits. If you think the spin and hater media and fans caused almost equal buzz from rumors whait until fans and haters buzz about it 100 fold when it is announced and info is given. No one will be talking about PS4 or Wii U outside of damage control attacks and spin.

Muerte24943995d ago (Edited 3995d ago )

You more than 57% of Microsoft's hardware sales are from the US, right? RROD has alot to do with it. This is a bad strategy because if they loose American then they might as well pack it up. They better do something for the gamers. We see that with the Wii U now. If Microsoft doesn't bring the 1st party then they might be in trouble. I'll be getting both but I'm waiting to see what the Xbox:infinite has to offer over Ps4, if anything. But day one Ps4 purchase for me. I won't disagree with you because your statement has some truth to it.

M-M3994d ago

greenpowerz replying to NeverEnding1989 is just too funny.

MysticStrummer3994d ago

The funny thing is that some MS fans here have been saying PS4 buzz was dead and 720 has had more buzz for awhile now.

I'm pretty sure green is one of those fans. Not sure about NeverEnding but it wouldn't surprise me if he/she and Belking down there were included in that group.

JBallerX3993d ago

Wow...I see Sony fanboys are disagreeing with your post. There really is nothing in your post to disagree with. This is an interesting site. Also, I agreed with your post.

-SIXAXIS-3993d ago

@greenpowerz: You realize that they're not worried about copycats right...At this point, it's not possible to implement full new features into the consoles for either of them. That takes months of planning and even more development...

Jaqen_Hghar3993d ago

both will lose hype in July and August before it ramps up at Gamescom (at least for Sony not sure if MS will be there this year) and TGS (again not sure who other than Sony will be there) and of course as we get near launch.

nirwanda3993d ago

@muerte
If RROD has alot to do with hardware sales how do you explain the software attach rate at 11-1 when the ps3 has 9-1.
If it's true what you say then xbox games must buy twice as many games as ps3 gamers

imdaboss13993d ago

PS4 is still getting a lot of buzz and positivity..MS doing a unveil on the 21 doesnt make sense since e3 will be 2 weeks from that date..What are they going to show on the 21st? just the specs and where they want to take the console..they will be stupid if they show the whole system and third party games that will be on the PS4 and leave nothing for e3..Sony PS4 will win this E3..because its all about the games.Sony will dominate with their first party games also third party devlopers will be all over it..

miyamoto3993d ago (Edited 3993d ago )

as Yoda said, never under estimate the power of the dark side of the force

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maxgamehard3994d ago

I posted this in another article but I will say it again..

I am very unbiased when it comes to games. I own two a wii, Wii U, a ps3, and Xbox 360.

Towards the end of a generation many gamers have both consoles, but not all.

At the end of the day us gamers have to choose a console that puts the priority on games. We are gamers and we want games.

The company that does the best job when it comes to gaming gets my money. I am not blinded by brand loyalty. On the other hand I do not give my money to the company who does the wrong thing which most people will probably agree with me on.

As of right now the next gen is a fresh start for both companies.

On May 21st we will have a taste of what BOTH companies have to offer and at the end of E3 we will have BOTH companies buffets and we can choose the one we want to enjoy.

There is no use bickering on unknown facts when we don't even know what one side is doing.

At the end of the day we are all gamers. We all want to enjoy games. As a gamer we should spend our hard earned money on the machine that caters to our gaming needs in the best possible way.

As of right now, I do not know which side is better and therefore I have not decided on which next gen console I will buy.

PS:

If anyone disagrees with me, please provide me with a reasoning. I value everyone's opinion and tried to make this post as helpful as possible.

ZeroX98763994d ago

nice to see someone else with all the consoles! :D
just like you said, I want to see all sides before taking my first pick. Most of the time, I took sony first, but last gen, I actually bought the xbox first.

I don't regret my choice, even if I bought way more PS3 games, but the 360 has it's charm too.

and the wii, well I bought it for all the great nintendo first party games.

whoyouwit043994d ago

Dude, you just gave one of the best responses ever on this site, bubbles for you. I too own all consoles, and have since the 16 bit era. However if you read my comments you would think I am a Microsoft fan-boy, but I'm not. While I do favor my 360 I love my ps3 and Wii/U as well. It's just the Sony fans on this site that are so childish, hateful and blindly loyal which makes you dog a company that you actually love. In their mind everything sony does is right and everything every one else do is a coping sony or isn't a real game.

maxgamehard3994d ago

@whoyouwit04

I wouldn't say its just Sony fans, I have seen childish, hateful and blind loyalty from all sides whether it be Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, and PC.

At the end of the day the company that does the right thing deserves your money and the company that does wrong DOES NOT deserve your money.

If we go around blindly supporting companies who do the wrong they will keep doing the wrong thing and we the gamer get the short end of the stick. If you support a companies wrong doings over and over again then that is fanboyism and that is wrong.

At this juncture lets look at Sony and Microsoft.

Sony
PS Plus - Free Games
PS3
The Last Of US
Beyond Two Souls
GOW Acension
Sly Cooper
GT6
Puppeteer
All Stars

Wii U Since Launch-

Luigi Mansion
Zombie U
Wonderful 101
Super Mario U
Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate
Lego City Undercover
Pikmin 3

Xbox 360 -

Halo 4
Gears of War Judgement

At the end of the day when you look at these three companies you see where the hate is coming from.

Its kind of irritating for me to not have that many exclusives on the Xbox as compared to the other consoles. I personally don't care for the early COD dlc because I don't see value in Live Gold as my PS3 and Wii U offer online for free. That's why I bought BO2 for PS3

(Off Topic: Mob Of the Dead is amazing. If you are a zombie fan you owe it to yourself to buy it :) )

Plus other than Dance Central the kinect games are terrible, trust me as i have bought many. In addition my girlfriend hasn't enjoyed any other than Dance Central as well.

Now this next gen can be a fresh start. Microsoft can realize its short comings and change their approach or they can churn away with less content for the hardcore gamer. Those who support Microsoft when they put the hardcore gamer in the backseat is the blind fanboy.

My advice to all the gamers. Wait for post E3 and choose the console that puts gamers first. If we support a company who doesn't have our wants aligned with their goals then we allow for them to get away with whatever they wanted.

Again I am not fanboy. Gears of War 3 was one of my favorite games of all time. Same with Uncharted 2 and Super Smash Bros Brawl.

We are gamers and we want games. How do we get games? We choose the company that offers the best selection. Simple.

If sony abandoned the core gamer i wouldn't support them at all, the same holds true for Microsoft.

Lets wait for the 21st and we will see who will offer the most for the hardcore gamer. If Microsoft offers more for the hardcore gamer than sony then I will choose Microsoft but if Sony offers more than Microsoft than i will choose Sony.

Come on everyone. Choose the company that puts games first.

Again I tried to be honest and unbiased. If they are any disagrees please reply as i will always value someone's opinion.

cedaridge3994d ago

I agree wit you. I say if you like them all well get them all. Do what makes you happy! psn: cedaridge / xbl: Mr. Skittles405

SDF Repellent3994d ago (Edited 3994d ago )

@maxgamehard

Do what is best, get the ones that you like, that is why I am getting the next xbox becuase I like Halo, Gears, Forza, Fable, the controller, and the online setup. Some people might prefer Sony or Nintendo games or the the way the system works, so good for them.

The point I don't agreed with you is that you listed the Wii U and its launch lineup with multiple third party games but failed to list Forza Horizon, and other Kinect exclusives while listing a Move game in Puppeteer on the list and putting false information like Free PSN+ games, when in fact it is subscription based and you can't play them when you canceled the subscription. And what is the point of you constantly proclaiming that you are an unbiased gamer, yet come off as quit bias in my view.

Ayabrea1233994d ago

@SDF Repellent

Stop with the BS now. PS+ Is a subscription that gives you free games that you don't pay monthly or out of pocket individually for. It works that same as all subscription because you pay to have access. If you don't pay you don't play, watch or read. If your subscription you are paying for is worth less than what your actually getting, then it'spretty 'free' to me. Stop trying to downplay the service.

Vames3993d ago (Edited 3993d ago )

Your list is very biased. You made a point in listing Move games for the PS3, yet refuse to list Kinect games for the Xbox 360. You're one of those person's who had bad things to say about Kinect motion controls, yet you like Move motion controls it seems. Furthermore, you missed out on some other 360 titles as well.

Also, the Wii U list has multiplatform games.

Very biased as I said, stop pretending so you can gain bubbles, it's a website. Bubbles or no bubbles, it won't affect your life.

Bigpappy3993d ago

Max you are everything but unbiased. Arrogant, pompous and self-righteous would better describe you based on your comments. Even if you are being truthful about owning all consoles, what makes you thing that people are sitting around waiting for you to tell them what to buy with their own money. You can only speak for yourself.

You guys always try and push one aspect of a console because it suits your purpose. When I buy a console I don't look for how many exclusives a system has, I look to see if there is enough support and what is unique about the architecture, controller, the way you communicate with friends on it, how it looks and sets up, what it offers to others in my household... All these things matter to must buyers. If you want the system with the most exclusives, the would probably be the iphone.

maxgamehard3993d ago (Edited 3993d ago )

@SDF Repellent

I was being kind by showing what games i had from last holiday forward.

I would like fix my list to show you the exclusives I have "this year" minus move and kinect content.

Sony
The Last Of US
Beyond Two Souls
GOW Acension
Sly Cooper
GT6

Xbox 360 -

Gears of War Judgement

I see that Microsoft has dropped in content for the current console in trying to support a new console.

If you support the above list of games this year for Xbox 360 over PS3 you are a fanboy.

On PS3 I will have exclusive games to play after the PS4 games come out whereas on 360 I won't have exclusives to play when the console is not even out.

@Vames

You mentioned move "games" can you show me the second move game.

I do not hate kinect controls nor do i hate move controls. Resistance 3 had a great implementation of move controls and dance central 3 had a great implementation of move controls. Just because ONE game i listed has move controls doesn't mean i support move. At least I have hardcore experiences with my casual experiences.

An argument I see very often is when you put facts on the table people call you biased. I have told you what I have seen for my consoles and have listed facts. There is no bias. I will not blindly support any company.

@Bigpappy

"Max you are everything but unbiased. Arrogant, pompous and self-righteous would better describe you based on your comments."

Thank You!!

As i recall i haven't called anyone names, yet i have been insulted by people. Seems like a nice place to have a discussion.

"When I buy a console I don't look for how many exclusives a system has, I look to see if there is enough support and what is unique about the architecture, controller, the way you communicate with friends on it, how it looks and sets up, what it offers to others in my household... All these things matter to must buyers. If you want the system with the most exclusives, the would probably be the iphone."

That's your opinion and I respect that. I would love to have my console to have all the bells and whistles too. But if my console doesn't play as many games or offer as much variety of games as the competition than I have a box with bells and whistles and less games.

In reference to iPhone games, quality over quantity. Plus you just brought a mobile device to a discussion about home consoles. Your point is invalid.

Again I do not have bias nor care for bubbles.

I want to buy a console that tailors best to the hardcore gamer.

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Docknoss3994d ago

Ps3 had allot of sales this gen bc of its blu ray. Now that nextbox will have blu ray and a tv receiver system, You will most likely see a xbox in every bed room and living room once this generation is over with.

ZeroX98763994d ago

bluray and netflix are easily usable without a gaming console nowadays.

the games will make the difference.

MysticStrummer3994d ago

Early PS3 sales were certainly helped by Blu Ray, but it wasn't long before cheaper players were available. At this point, Blu Ray won't help 720 or PS4 sales much at all.

There are also plenty of other ways to watch TV already.

Clarence3994d ago

Yeah ok so the games had nothing to do with it.
M$ will pay royalties to Sony to use blu-ray in their new console.

HammadTheBeast3994d ago

You do realize, outside of US everyone has a PS2/3?

imdaboss13993d ago

Games will be the deciding factor this gen..if MS dont show any exclusive game they will lose..Its not like last gen no more..People want new games they cant play on another system. MS is not known to make exclusive games i bet you that they will money hat for some exclusive dlc or pay million of dollars to third party developers to make it time exclusive..

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Docknoss3994d ago

I'm not saying the games won't make a difference and if ms goes the same route as this last gen I could be bad. But as a buisness perspective its something like the wii had to drive sale to the casual market. With more money comes more business investment options for new game development.

Docknoss3994d ago

Sony isn't the only ones that own bluray but yes some of the royalties will go to bluray. But Sony should want ms to use bluray bc then bluray disc and player will go down in price and will eventually become cheaper to mass produce.

JoGam3994d ago

Why do MS have to be losing a battle? Why cant it just be Sony did a good job. MS did a good job?

TwistedMetal3993d ago

they already lost. yeah ms was the first to the whole social network of gaming but so was myspace and we seen what facebook did to it because it was just better and thats what the ps4 is gonna be doing to the x720. like facebook its gonna take over and you will have a few xbox fanboys try and stay on that myspace experience untill they understand ps4 will not be stopped. just jump on to the ps4 early guys theres no reason not to. your achievements are worthless dont even think about carrying them over its best we start fresh in the new gen so people can actually have a chance to be number one in the achievements/trophies.

JsonHenry3993d ago

That is because Sony did exactly what they should have done- take everything that was good about the PS3 and learnt from their mistakes and made a dev friendly console.

DA_SHREDDER3993d ago (Edited 3993d ago )

. Damn the hype train!

3-4-53993d ago

They have more media buzz because they've revealed already....duh

Microsoft will pick up as well.

It won't be a 2 player race though as no matter what Sony & Microsoft show off at E3, a lot of the attention will go to 3D Mario, Mario Kart U, LoZ U, Super Smash Brothers Wii U/ 3DS....

There is going to be tons of info no matter what company you support.

In my case, I like all of them, because I like games, regardless of company, so there is going to be so much good info to process for the next month or so.

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ThatCanadianGuy5143995d ago

PS4 hype train is intense.No other console comes close.
And all they did was talk some specs and show a controller.

Can you imagine when they show the console itself? Brilliant on their art.

Blackdeath_6633994d ago (Edited 3994d ago )

true the information sony gave us at their conference doesn't complete the whole picture how much more do they have left to give i wonder. you would assume they would have enough left to make a strong appearance at E3 (amidst the xbox announcement) but they already announced a couple of games already so does that mean they have many more yet to announce? if so then greatness does indeed await us at E3

Majin-vegeta3994d ago

Yet we still don't know everything of the PS4.Sony has stated many times they still have many more surprises left to reveal for the PS4. Can't wait for E3.

GO SONY GO ;D http://img.gawkerassets.com...

DOMination-3994d ago

The stuff shown on ps4 is mainly features that catch up to the 360. The reason MS are showing so late is because they are bringing it to the next level and now the only way Sony can copy is by shoehorning it via firmware updates.

Discuss this statement.

ThatCanadianGuy5143994d ago

PS4 showed

*Gaikai Tech
*Play as you download
*Instant play anything - full play & pay later via Gaikai
* Download / update in backround /even if console is off
*Fully intergrated social network - option for real photo avatars and real names
*Can livestream your gameplay to friends
*friends can comment directly to you as you stream, in lobby chatroom
*Directly record video and upload instantly through a click of a button.
*You can take direct control of a friends gameplay from your own console, if offered.And vice versa.

Those are all features not on xbox.The reason Microsoft is so late, and didn't hold their event in april as they were supposed to, is too scramble and try to play catch up to Sony.

#Dealwithit

GameCents3995d ago

An announced console has more hype than one that has no official announcement except an announcement date?
Heck I'm suprised the Xbox hype is even half of that of the PS4 at the moment.

whoyouwit043994d ago

Heck I'm suprised the Xbox hype is even half of that of the PS4 at the moment

That half the hype for in unannounced console alone shows that the 720 is already a real threat to the PS4.

Ayabrea1233994d ago

Did you forget something? The PS4 does not have an official body. There's still more hype to build

Jaqen_Hghar3993d ago

and a man knows that Sony saved plenty of games for E3. ND's second team hasn't done anything since Uncharted 3 so they'll have had a couple years come this fall...

McScroggz3994d ago

Hype is built around the unknown more than anything. It's not surprising the NextBox has so much hype - it's the prominent console in America. After the 21st the hype will be huge, good or bad. What really matters is the hype after E3, because then pretty much all of the big news and announcements will be out and there will be little anticipation for the unknown. Then we will see which console has the most hype.

Kingthrash3603995d ago

too many bad rumors I think. if they would have cleared it up people would be more excited. but since they didnt people are believing it or are unsure. all will be clear on the 21st but its hype has suffered. ill be watching for sure but I was more excited and counting the days for ps4's conferance.

put it this way....people want to see if the bad rumors are true or not , more than wanting to see its games or features. just because they may not buy it if the rumors are true. I say they should clear these rumors before the conference so people will come in with their heads clear of negative bs....but they havent so we really dont know if this is true or not...I mean whats so bad about officially stateing the rumors are false? plus you have a guy saying deal with it n shit. yeah you fired him but still didnt state that he was lying or clear the air on tge subject of always online no used games and such.....so less hype, more negative rumors and speculation.

Vames3993d ago

Only the weak minded and trolls gravitate towards rumors when by now all gamers should know the best option is to wait for an official announcement. It's 2013, gamers should by now have an idea how things are done and stop jumping around like chickens without a head. It is very immature and demeaning to the gaming community.

Kingthrash3603993d ago

weak minded or no these weak minded people are potential buyers and they are selling. how about satisfying the customers...or not and lose them.

Blackdeath_6633994d ago

really good read they broke the data down to a couple of key point and while statistical data should not be used as proof it is still interesting to see how people have reacted to next gen consoles. i'm surprised that social media is mostly neutral it certainly doesn't feel that way on other internet sites but that may be caused by the varying amount of information about the next gen console. like she said in the article, comparisons can only be drawn as we are heading into E3 and then a few weeks after that.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere4h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

PassNextquestion3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Profchaos3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto3h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos2h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

XiNatsuDragnel2h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos40m ago(Edited 40m ago)

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg4h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos4h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

I think if used correctly it could work well

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10111d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref10d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde10d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197210d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville10d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218310d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos10d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai11d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref10d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan10d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0079d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197211d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref10d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde10d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197210d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197210d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier10d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto10d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218310d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto10d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman10d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts10d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts9d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic9d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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