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Gran Turismo 6: a commitment to PS3′s installed base

During the Gran Turismo 15th anniversary event at Silverstone Circuit today, VG247′s Sam Clay posed a few questions to SCEE president Jim Ryan, such as why the Polyphony racer is heading to PS3 when PS4 is just around the bend.

ltachiUchiha3990d ago

GT5 with 10 million copies sold im proud of them. Put so much into one game so they deserve it.

darthv723990d ago

sony has been developing a hybrid game in the sense that it is playable on the ps3 as well as the ps4 then GT6 could be that flagship title.

i can see how the bd would be supported on both platforms and depending on the system you put it into, it either runs in ps3 mode or it runs in enhanced/improved visual ps4 mode.

one game to be there for the ps3 owners but also the same game for the new ps4 owners as well. It is very possible and has already been done before.

If sony doesnt create these combo games and pattent the idea then a rival company could.

ThatCanadianGuy5143990d ago

This is why i like Sony.PS4 is right around the corner, they could be putting all their time and devotion to it, but they still support PS3.Ni no Kuni, Beyond, TLOU, GT6.Three AAA new IP's and a megaton in the final year.

Then you look at microsoft and it's like, damn,A barren wasteland.Leaves a bitter taste because it's exactly what they did with the original xbox.I'll never forgive them for that.Buy a year of xbox live, they start closing servers on all games, 360 comes out, no support for xbox, no new games, nothing.It'll be exactly the same again.

NYC_Gamer3990d ago

The original Xbox died because of issues between MS and Nvidia..

Bathyj3990d ago

Nvidia stopped them from making games?

Who stopped them this gen?

Persistantthug3990d ago (Edited 3990d ago )

Microsoft has basically abandoned XBOX 360's core game while it's still in motion and has good life potential......

Same with XBOX 1.

Different reasons.....Same'ish result.

darthv723990d ago

there was no way in hell Ms was going to turn things around for the xbox. We ALL knew that. so their risk to do what they did paid off in the sense that they went full support for the 360.

I have no bitterness towards them because i'm not that shallow to hold any grudges.

If there is one smart thing MS has done with their strategy is not having to compete with themselves. nintendo and sony know that all to well.

Direct competition isnt always black and white (meaning one company vs another). sometimes it is competing with your other products on the market. Every ps2 (or wii) sold is a loss of a sale of a ps3 (or wii-u). obviously it still represents a sale in the overall scope of things but these companies are really wanting to sell more of their latest and greatest product.

If Ms comes out and says the 360 is officially dead and moves forward with the 720 then so be it. I will support it just like i support the wii-u and will the ps4.

MoonConquistador3990d ago

@DarthV - Correct me if i'm wrong, but £1 of profit on a PS2 is the exact same value as £1 of profit on the PS3.

Whilst you argue that it demonstrates focus on the new product, why are you advocating a company forcing you to upgrade.

Sony continue to support those that buy their consoles until they are ready to make the choice to upgrade. If you cant see the difference then you are a blind consumer

darthv723990d ago

no you are not wrong. there is a difference between hardware support and software support.

keep in mind that the slower the adoption rate the slower the release of titles specific to that next platform can happen.

Pulling the plug on the hardware does not automatically mean the software support is dead as well. The games would generally be forward compatible so long as the new hardware was backward compatible.

the same game can serve two platform bases. halo 2 is a good example as it came out near the end of the xbox and beginning of the 360. it was right in the middle and was playable by both sides on the same maps on the same service.

Its only a forced upgrade when the game you want isnt available on the platform you have. that has been the same throughout console history.

MoonConquistador3989d ago

@DarthV - Exactly, you've just proved my point about being forced to upgrade.

My point on supporting the platforms even though you have a newer model out was related to software, not that they keep manufacturing the hardware.

What about Halo 3. Was that made available for both, or did they forget about the people who had bought the original console.

Whilst you make a good argument for having backwards compatibility (and nobody's arguing that), you don't really make any good points on MS continuing to support their original console with games when releasing a new platform.

There will still be big releases for the PS3 even after the PS4 releases.

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SDF Repellent3990d ago (Edited 3990d ago )

Lol at DayZ.

If that helps you sleep better at night, then so be it. Over 300 original Xbox games were Playable on the X360 and Halo 2 was playable online on x360 and it's community was still thriving years after the the release of the x360. Second, speaking of barren wasteland, have you check out Killzone 3 or Uncharted 3 online server lately? Also, with the Next Xbox being BC with the 360, the server for Halo 4, all COD , Gears, and every other games with online multiplayer will be playable on both x360 and the next Xbox. One thing is for sure, since PS3 games arnt compatible with the PS4, so alot of PS3 owners feel cheated by Sony because their Achievement, gamer scores won't be carried over with them, it is like your career record was stolen and you have to start all over, and most likely, a lot of servers for their favorite games will be closed due to the lack of BC to justify the continuation of these servers.

MrBeatdown3990d ago

"alot of PS3 owners feel cheated by Sony because their Achievement, gamer scores won't be carried over with them, it is like your career record was stolen and you have to start all over,"

Are you just making stuff up and hoping it sticks, or are you really that clueless?

PS3 trophies even carried over to Vita. And you think it won't carry over to PS4? Sounds like you've been breathing in a little too much "SDF Repellent".

Shuyin3990d ago

You're a sore douchebag.

trouble_bubble3990d ago (Edited 3990d ago )

"...speaking of barren wasteland, have you check out Killzone 3 or Uncharted 3 online server lately?"

You mean those 2011 games? Nope. Too busy playing 2013 exclusives like NiNoKuni, Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time, GOW Ascension, Guacamelee, Dust514, and gearing up for The Last of Us next month and Beyond Two Souls/Puppeteer/Until Dawn/GT6 later this year. No time for KZ3 with Shadowfall coming too. New games. Wotta concept.

"...so alot of PS3 owners feel cheated by Sony because their Achievement, gamer scores won't be carried over with them, it is like your career record was stolen and you have to start all over"

I see u forgot when Sony merged up a universal SEN network last year. No one's losing anything between systems. Even PS Vita trophies show up on the PS3 trophy system. They all add to your overall. Some games like PS AllStars and Sound Shapes even give you two platinums. If u had a PS3 or Vita you'd know this.

Root3990d ago

Thats nice but won't those die hard PS3 owners who bought one at launch be getting a PS4 at launch...the ones who were the start up base of your audience on the PS3.

I mean if thats the case then I'm sure they would of bought GT6 on the PS4 aswell

I really hope they go through with the PS4 version since I'm going to hold off to buy that one instead. Least when I finally do play it the time gap between that and GT7 will be reduced.

Minato-Namikaze3990d ago (Edited 3990d ago )

Those die hards will probably still have their PS3's so it wont be much of an issue. I mean this has been sony's track record with both of their transitions, why are people acting like this is something new that they just started.

Gran Turismo 1997/1998 PlayStation
Gran Turismo 2 1999/2000 PlayStation
Gran Turismo 3 2001 PlayStation 2
Gran Turismo 4 2005 PlayStation 2
Gran Turismo 5 2010 PlayStation 3
Gran Turismo 6 2013 PlayStation 3

PS2 released 2000
PS3 released 2006

Root3990d ago

"why are people acting like this is something new that they just started"

Probably because times are changing...no one expects the same formula to keep repeating after a while. I mean each gen is going to get longer and that will unsettle these kind of release traditions from certain developers.

NateCole3990d ago

root . longer gen means more iteration so in that case it is perfectly logical to have 2 gt for this gen.

Hicken3990d ago

There will most likely be a GT6 for PS4, so feel free to hold off if you want.

But yeah, the people who got PS3s at launch may well buy PS4s at launch; I don't see why this seems to automatically equate to people getting rid of their PS3s with the acquisition of its successor. No offense, but dumping off your old console because a new one came out is a rather casual gamer-type thing to do.

It seems plausible they could do what darth mentioned earlier, having the different versions of the game on the same disc, and whichever console you plug it in is the version you'll play.

I'll probably get both, if it comes out separately. I'm a GT junkie like that.

NateCole3990d ago

When Sony said 10 years they didnt just mean to keep it alive for 10 years. GT6 will not be the only major release left for the PS3. The PS3 is still not 199 yet people.

Me-Time3990d ago

I was skeptical about the 10 years comment, but hmm...nice.

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Comparing the New Grand Valley in Gran Turismo 7 to the Original

A detailed look at Gran Turismo 7's new track Grand Valley, judging its evolution from its former design and layout in Gran Turismo 6, side by side.

SullysCigar421d ago (Edited 421d ago )

Wow, crazy isn't it? The draw distance is vastly improved, the background textures too and there's ZERO shimmer now. And the replays are night and day!

EIDT: @below, Haha I didn't notice that!

IRetrouk421d ago

Yeah, theres a massive improvment all round, Looks amazing with the time of day transitions too, me and a couple online buddies jumped on earlier to try it out lol, did you notice the beach full of seals?

closed_account421d ago

That coastline looks amazing and I can only imagine it in VR! Looks like an entirely new course as far as scenery goes.

IRetrouk421d ago

Yeah, those views are going to be crazy when we are "there" can't wait!

PureBlood421d ago

Just got confirmation my PSVR2 is shipping by 24 hour courier, so I should have it tomorrow! I know nobody else cares, but I had to tell someone lol

GT7 will be my first game, as I want to test out my wheel - so excited - it's going to be awesome!

Deathdeliverer421d ago

I got my confirmation and date (22nd) showing for the charging station. The headset itself has been in “shipped-processing” status since last Friday. I’m like dang can I see the date? I was in the first round of preorders. Whenever it does get here, I’m ready. Going to go update everything and try to get over this cold.

PureBlood421d ago

Wish you better, bud, fingers crossed for your order too.

@S2Killinit - Thank you!

IRetrouk421d ago

I care👊🏻, mine is still saying prep for shipping😔

PureBlood421d ago

Thanks man 👊

Word of advice: be ready for the impromptu jig that happens when that email drops, it can be embarrassing..

DaReapa421d ago

Just got my second shipping confirmation email as well.

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S2Killinit421d ago

Man i caant wait. One day left!

Flawlessmic421d ago

I know you and a lot of people are excited for VR but dont sleep on sophy, sophy is the real game changer here!

After giving sophy a run last night, i can safely say the actual racing in future GT's is going to be Fu***** amazing!!!

even on intermediate on some tracks the AI was coming back at me on my waiting for me to slip, attacking the space if i left the door open for them, honestly felt like i was racing against people and not some very limited AI that once i passed them they may as well have been eliminated from the race like GT ai normally is.

pump it up to expert and its a real challenge to stay ahead, the next level up from expert man the AI kicked my ass, like badly.

i remember when sophy was first annouced all the nay sayers said its a pipe dream and we will never see it implemented and here we are a yr later and sophy is being tested in game for us to try out and is every good as whats been promised.

VR plus racing against sophy and wowww your not gonna feal like your actually racing for real anywhere else outside of gt.

sophy will change the game in gt8

S2Killinit421d ago

Hm I didnt realize it was like that. I didnt even know why there was so much hype about it. But thanknyou for explaining that. I mean I get it now.

But I’ll be seeing it in action tomorrow! Woot woot.

Flawlessmic421d ago

It's only for a limited time and only has 4 races but I encourage you and everyone else try it and see the difference compared to the normal Ai.

Sophy has slipped completely under the radar in this latest uodate

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Father__Merrin421d ago

Wow gt6 was awesome under appreciated because of time it came out

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What Happened To Gran Turismo?

When thinking about simulation racing games in this console generation, it’s not unreasonable for your first thought to be “Forza”. Microsoft’s first-party sim-racer series has been wildly successful, and for many of us, it’s been the go-to franchise for quite some time. But simulation racing games weren’t always synonymous with Forza; there was a time when Polyphony Digital’s hardcore series, Gran Turismo, reigned supreme. While the long-time franchise continues to sell exceptionally well, there’s no doubt that it isn’t the young, spry series it used to be.

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darthv721699d ago

It doesnt suck but I would love to see a return to form with GT7. Sport is such a departure that it can turn some people off. It has gotten better over time but it's still no match for a proper GT7.

Rude-ro1699d ago

Sport is awesome for what it is...
However, polygon built a whole new engine and the tech is still being worked on...
I understand it is easy to praise a cookie cutter because it release the same game over and over with rotations of maps and cars...
But this engine polygon has designed does more for things other than gaming.

Repetitive old engines with new makeup does not make anyone king.

Gt7 will be most likely in two years with 120fps and ray tracing because their new engines are ready now.

LordStig1699d ago

It decided to focus on racing rather than cars and in the gaming world, racing = gameplay.

Imalwaysright1699d ago

What complete and utter BS. GT has always focused on racing and gameplay.

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neutralgamer19921699d ago

Good I guess selling millions of copies and have OFFICIAL FIA license races and Esports means it sucks

We just don't get it every year which is why ms also delayed next forza. You can't keep making yearly sequels. Quality and innovation takes time

GT sports at launch to now it's a different game and support has been free

Imalwaysright1699d ago

GT games have always sold millions of copies and what's so innovative about GT sport? It's a racing game FFS.

IRetrouk1698d ago

The online championships and tournaments alone offer more innovation than any racer this gen🤷‍♂️ then you also get the live ones in New York etc with proper race like commentary, something else no other sim has done before. It sells millions because it's the best, simple really.

Imalwaysright1698d ago (Edited 1698d ago )

IRetrouk

I'm not even sure why think that having proper like race commentary or championships and tournements is innovative but I'll play along... GT Sport was released in 2017 so how do explain that this video https://www.youtube.com/wat... from 2016 exists?

Dark_Knightmare21698d ago

Spoken like someone who hasn’t played sport

Imortus_san1697d ago

And those Paid demos, that fans try to hide and not talk about it.

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SCW19821699d ago

It became the best online racing community for console players and its an amazing achievment.

Keltech1699d ago

"Forza?" HaHaHaHaHaHaHa!! good joke!

kayoss1699d ago

Too early for an Aprils fool joke.

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ElementX1699d ago

@solidgamerX That's really not very impressive. Somebody with an interest in cars plays racing games and becomes a race car driver. That's like saying "look at this guy, he played COD and now he's in the military"

Imalwaysright1699d ago

SolidGamerX

You must think that we're all stupid enough to believe that a game will turn anyone into a professional racing driver.

Prince-Ali1699d ago

FORZA!!! AAHAHHAHA !! Haven't i schooled you on this already before! You're still spewing nonsense on this threaddd looool

mcstorm1699d ago

Forza has always been better online than. GT and still is. Great to see PD try something different with GTS but let's face it this gen sonys racing games have been poor this then compaired to what Microsoft has had to offer. Forza 7 is one of the best racing games on xbox and pc but for me Horizon 3 and 4 have set the bar this gen. Of all the things microsoft got wrong this gen 2 of its racing games got a lot right and others are now playing catchup.

DarXyde1699d ago

It's debatable which is the better game. To me, Forza has the upper hand.

But in terms of online community and events? Ha. Don't lie to yourself just because you don't like Playstation.

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Dark_Knightmare21698d ago

Lol not even close have you even played gt sport online?

Imalwaysright1698d ago (Edited 1698d ago )

SolidGamerX

You didn't need to confirm what I already knew: if you didn't think that we're all stupid you wouldn't make such stupid comments that only those that are dead from the neck up will agree with.

IRetrouk1698d ago (Edited 1698d ago )

Did he say gt could turn anyone into a racer? No he didnt, he asked what game has done it like gt has, which is true, gt academy done it throughout gt5 for a start. You need to do some research fella, cause your wrong.. again.

And lmao at element and the downplay, not even similar you crazy man, not even similar🤣 you realise gt has turned gamers into drivers from gt5? Go look at gt academy and tell me how that would be anything like someone playing cod and then joining the army, the downplay in gt articles is funny.

ElementX1698d ago

So you think he learned the required skills playing video games? I remember when people claimed children were learning how to operate guns because of video games, do you think that's also true?

IRetrouk1698d ago (Edited 1698d ago )

Two completely different things and you know it, it is a fact that gt has helped real gamers become real race drivers, the proof is easily available online and I'm not going round searching for links that has been posted many, many times before on this subject, Go and look at gt academy like I mentioned and you can see for yourself, they start out on gt and go from there, so yes the game gran turismo teaches you some driving techniques, now if you can find me a link where someone has been playing cod and went on to become a war hero, please let me know because I couldnt find anything, also do you have a link to where cod has a program to train soldiers? Like cod academy or something?, I couldnt find one of those either, maybe when you do then your comparison will actually make sense.

Imalwaysright1698d ago

IRetrouk

You mean the GT academy that provides training and licenses for a person to become a professional racing driver? The GT academy is how you go from being an average driving joe to become a professional racing driver not GT the game.

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xRacer74x1699d ago

Forza owns the racing game scene in my area as far as video games go.

dekke1699d ago

Forza = Arcade
GT= Sim

why u ppl keep comparing those 2 games every time..

Keltech1699d ago (Edited 1699d ago )

GT owns the console sim racing scene in my area and around the world. Just ask a real race car drivers

https://youtu.be/2pC3-eCAdv...

LordStig1699d ago

Forza isn't a racing game. It's a car game.

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Hungryalpaca1699d ago

I’ll stick to sims. You keep playing with your hot wheels.

King_Noctis1699d ago

You forget that there are two Forzas, Forza Motorsport and Forza Horizon, which aims at different audiences.

King Nezz1699d ago

The usual response from someone insecure that feels their favorite racing game is nowhere near as good as it once was. I really liked Gran and played them all. Loved the Vector from part 2. But the franchise is not the same.

Gaming4Life19811699d ago

Yea Forza took over and is now the best sim racer with motorsport and the best arcade racer with horizon. GT was the best but it has been falling short for a long time and I'm not saying gt games are bad but no where near king like it used to be. I'd say forza motorsport 3 was the forza that really upped the franchise and forza 4 was when forza became #1.

I remember the glory days of gt but those days are long gone but it's still a good game just not the best. Of course ps fans will never admit it because they will die before giving MS credit.

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Nacho_Z1699d ago

I do think they need some new creative heads in to give them some new perspectives, they seem stuck in a rut. It's a very high quality rut but they're still stuck in it.

LordStig1699d ago

The USA leg of the Gran Turismo World Tour is going on in New York right now. Go watch it guys, there's some damn good racing and crazy updates to come.

Nacho_Z1699d ago

I've seen some of it before and to be fair it's not much different to watching real motorsport so credit to them for that.

Heavenly King1699d ago

the MACH 5 :) GO SPEED rACEr!!

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Gran Turismo 5, Gran Turismo 6, Wipeout HD, God of War 3 and more running on PC via the latest RPCS3

DSOGaming writes: "It appears that the best Playstation 3 emulator that is currently under development, RPCS3, received a new update recently. kd-11 has implemented new Surface Cache fixes to RPCS3 that reportedly improve the appearance of car reflections in Gran Turismo 6, and fix various graphics glitches in other games."

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gangsta_red1736d ago

If someone out there in internet land could make a decent PS3 emulator imagine what Sony could actually do if they put the time and effort in to make this happen for their next console?

It's definitely not impossible as we can see here. It should definitely be done since BC seems to be very important to Sony this next gen. Imagine PS+ free game offerings from Sony that could include the whole catalog from the PS console family..fantastic.

Silly gameAr1736d ago

Why waste time and money on it? Some people want to move forward, not go back.

Eonjay1736d ago

It's not a deal breaker but having the feature would be amazing. I would rather have it than not have it.

gangsta_red1736d ago

Not everyone feels that way and if Sony is making an issue of supporting PS4 games for PS5 why not support their other past games for people who still have them or a means to buy them and play them.

KwietStorm_BLM1736d ago

You literally just said some people. So I'd imagine you can comprehend that there's a larger subset of people not in that same "some" group. PlayStation used to be known for backward compatibility. Xbox made a big deal about support for their entire catalog. What's the issue with PlayStation, who has an even more substantial history in gaming, tapping into that market? We don't have this problem on PC. It's only a good thing for consumers to be able to bring their games with them through generations on console.

Silly gameAr1736d ago (Edited 1736d ago )

@kwietstorm

Yes, I said some people. What I said was MY opinion. I'm one of those people that couldn't care less about bc, but im not saying ALL people don't care about it. I think they should spend that time and energy for future features and games, but like I said, that's only my opinion.

Imortus_san1735d ago (Edited 1735d ago )

Not every body trows their games way every time the new gen cames along, and everybody that likes games like to be able to play their favorite games in the best possible way.

PS: Retrocompatability is the most requested feature in Sony Foruns, even Sony said so.

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frostypants1736d ago (Edited 1736d ago )

The question is would the return on investment be worthwhile? Are the number of additional consoles PS3 BC would push be enough to justify the cost of developing the emulation (and it would have to be bullet proof)? I like the idea of having it, but for my part not having it won't effect my purchase decision.

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Eonjay1736d ago

You are asking the right question but the wrong way. For me, the addition of PS3 BC would add value as a customer and make it even more likely for me to buy a PS5. If it is valuable to the customer it is valuable to them.

Also, the way they are doing it would be way cheaper than a program like Microsoft had. The are emulating the hardware. Not the software.

gangsta_red1736d ago

"The question is would the return on investment be worthwhile?"

Sony could definitely make some extra profit selling PS3 games through their marketplace (the same way they have their other classics available). It's not about whether or not it will effect anyone's purchase decision, it definitely didn't do so for the PS4. But as others have expressed, it would be a nice addition to have for PS5 if Sony could open up their whole library digitally and physically to users.

ShadowWolf7121736d ago

Racing games should be some of the easiest to emulate and they're still not hitting 60fps with it, to say nothing of image flickering and occasional sound issues.

Still gonna be a bit yet before they have it fully up and running, it seems, and even then it may only work for part of the library. :/

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Gwiz1736d ago

Is it possible to have PS3 emulation on PS5?yes depending on what kind of power it really has.
An i7 9700k is no slouch and the PS4 already has a God of War 3 running much better with less
power required because they converted CBE to X86 which is not something you want to be doing in the long run.

What power would be required to play these games emulated at said PS4 version?.
It's not an easy situation Sony themselves created and ultimately I believe they are happy this way because they
want you to use PSNow,that service is why you will not even get it. (let's not forget that it was a huge investment)

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