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Is There Room for the Shield? NVidia Needs to Learn from the Vita.

BNR: While I’m honestly not the biggest fan of the Shield’s design (it looks like the folks behind the N-Gage never stopped working), I’m curious as to how well it’ll sell in today’s market. The trouble is, it’s not exactly easy to sell a handheld with beefy innards- while at PAX, I saw hundreds of people carrying around the Nintendo 3DS, Streetpassing and gaming and having a good time. As for Sony’s Vita, I think I saw about four or five. It’s not a bad console by any stretch of the imagination, but right now I couldn’t name five great Vita games to save my life. It’s not that they aren’t there, it’s just that barely anybody knows about them. The 3DS, meanwhile, has been doing comparatively well, both in hardware and software sales. Why? Because people know it exists. What does any of this have to do with the Shield?

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ai_nui3989d ago

dont know that there is another handheld?
but to me there are more than 5 great vita games for me.. that i can play.. ;_;
maybe you are just chosey when comes into games..(^__^)y
(sorry for my grammar, not native english (^_-)y)

murdock553989d ago

this thing is going to be useless. pc gamers are hardcore gamers who wants full experience meaning the best resolution and graphics. they dont want to play on a handheld that cant disconnect from they're pC.

reynod3989d ago (Edited 3989d ago )

Pretty much true, I am a PC gamer id never consider Nvidia Shield. While i have a monster rig. I also have a Laptop for my portable gaming needs.

I dont like handheld gaming, if i have to play i want the full experience. Having a good laptop means i can pretty much play all my game Steam games on it. I can also plug it onto a HDTV and play on it like a Console when i am traveling.

monkeyfox3989d ago

I think there is room in the market for an android hand held with TV out functionality (maybe not at this price though...)

Jourdy2883989d ago

A TV out functionality may help Shield sales to a degree- the thing is, if you have a PC, don't you have a much bigger, nicer screen somewhere in your house attached to a more powerful machine?

FragGen3989d ago (Edited 3989d ago )

You can have that today with High End android phone and the Moga Pro controller for fifty extra bucks.

Honestly, I just don't think there is that big a market for hardcore handheld gaming, especially for something which is that big and can be essentially put together trivially by the user with off the shelf hardware. That's the beauty of an open architecture like Android. This thing has failure written all over it, it'll make the Vita look like it is a huge marketing win by comparison. LOL.

The PS4+Vita combo with streaming, where the handheld is like a companion to the set top machine is more appealing to me as a serious hardcore gamer than something which is basically redundant to the phone already in my pocket.

Microsoft should try to couple the windows phone os to streaming on the XBOX 720 then let manufacturers come out with controller cases and accessories. Then let the hardware compete in the market place. That might be an edge for them.

Anyway, glad I have a Vita and looking forward to using it with PS4.

monkeyfox3989d ago (Edited 3989d ago )

I agree with you however Tegra 4 urinates over any/most high end phones currently available at twice the cost. I have an S3 which i sometimes use with a hdmi mhl adaptor and a wireless PS3 controller. Have a few emulators running on it etc but the experience is fiddly and jarring at best.

The market is ripe for a solid android based gaming platform. Maybe it wont be shield or Ouya but someone needs to do it. So many startup developers have flocked to android recently but its plagued by compatibility issues with different phone manufactures (not the case with ios obviously) - If there was an industry standard for the actual hardware then you'd get a huge amount of games coming out.

I think microsoft would be extremely foolish if they DIDNT try to make their phone software work/stream with their latest console...

Bigpappy3988d ago (Edited 3988d ago )

What are some of these hot android games that people can't wait to play on a big screen. Most handheld gamers don't care to have a bigger and those droid games were designed to be played with out a controller.

Now, if they can sell enough to attract some top developers who are willing to put some amazing games designed specifically for it, it could catch on down the road. But as it is right now, I really don't see a market for any of these droid consoles. People will just stick to their phones and tablets.

If I had to make a prediction, it would be death by neglect.

r213989d ago

At $350, it could do well. It's nice to see some companies jump into the handheld race. Also, dual sticks design is much appreciated IMO.

CEOSteveBallmer3989d ago

Only for PC gamers who have an expensive gaming rig. But how many of them are there in the world compared to console gamers?? This is expensive. its nearly enough for me to buy a minimun-medium range PC

MGRogue20173989d ago (Edited 3989d ago )

It depends on what games are available that are dedicated exclusively to the system. No one's going to be buying this device solely for playing casual touch-screen titles like Angry Birds or Fruit Ninja on it XD might as well just buy a cheaper smartphone if your only going to be playing those lol

Shield will also depend on how successful Tegra 4 will be.. & how many of it's games will make full use of the game-pad & triggers.

I would like to see this handheld being successful.. but I believe it will only be successful when lots of dedicated games are available for it & when NVIDIA lowers the price a lot.. Only then will we see people actually buying this beast.

Jourdy2883989d ago

Agreed- I think Tegra 4 is a nice idea for mobile devices, but frankly? How many developers are going to rush to make the next Skyrim for a handheld barely anybody knows about? There's more money in making Bejeweled knockoffs that beg for money every five minutes than there is in making worthwhile experiences on Android, and until people start putting their money down on the unfortunately obscure, worthwhile games on the platform, it's not going anywhere fast.

That's not to say that there aren't any good games on Android- the aforementioned Angry Birds and Fruit Ninja are fun, Four Pics One Word will stretch your mind at times- there are lot's of other fun games for the platform. Trouble is, there isn't much depth and there's lot's of money-grubbing. Couple that with the fact that most people's Android-based devices can aren't Tegra 4-based, let alone particularly powerful. For gaming to seriously take off on Android, somebody needs to take a big risk with a game that has depth. Otherwise, the platform will be stuck in a rut.

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GameStream End of Service Notification

Starting in mid-February, a planned update to the NVIDIA Games app will begin rolling out to SHIELD owners. With this update, the GameStream feature will no longer be available. SHIELD users can continue to use GameStream until that time.

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DaReapa485d ago

For sometime, I'd been contemplating getting a Shield to replce my Steam Link hw as the Shield is a more capable 4K/60 device for streaming. Happy they notified us before I finally decided to pull the trigger on getting one.

amazinglover484d ago

You can still stream using the shield just not natively, you'll have download and use the stream link app on the shield.

They likely are not supporting it natively to save money on developing and maintaining the feature and letting valves app do it instead.

AirRevenant484d ago

I hope this doesn't end the Moonlight service functionality

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Nvidia Shield: firmware update brings support for PS5 controllers

The firmware update 8.2.2 for Nvidia Shield with some interesting changes is now available for download. It is now possible to use the controllers of the PS5 and Xbox Series X on the device. Further details can be found in the message.

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RaidenBlack1180d ago

... and yet no support for PS4

Cernunnos1180d ago

PS4 controller works just fine with mine.

Vits1180d ago

It's nice to have the support. But without the unique functions of the DualSense I wouldn't go for it unless you already have a PS5 laying around. As there are many other controllers compatible with the system that will also cost much less.

1nsomniac1180d ago

I don’t think anyone would be planing on buying the PS5 controller for the shield specifically. The idea is that if you have a ps5 with the controller and would prefer to use it on the shield instead of the supplied shield controller, then you can.

Vits1180d ago

Is more of general advice. For PC gaming is exactly the same thing, while the DS4 was a fairly popular option for having a good quality/price ratio the Dual Sense is better to be avoided as you are not going to get anything out of it's special features. But will be paying the premium anyway.

Also only older models and the Gaming Edition of the Shield have a supplied controller. For all the rest including the newer cylindrical and Pro editions you have to supply your own if you plan on doing any gaming at all on it.

1nsomniac1179d ago (Edited 1179d ago )

The cylindrical one doesn’t come with a controller. The rest do, there is no gaming edition. I have one.

Vits1179d ago

Yeah you either got a old model or got the Gaming package and didn't notice. The newest 2019 version of it does not come with a controller.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...
https://www.anandtech.com/s...
https://www.androidheadline...

1nsomniac1179d ago

According to that your right the newest pro version doesn’t come with a controller, which seems ridiculous to remove a bundled item and still charge the same if not more for it.

I have the 2017 version.

Vits1179d ago (Edited 1179d ago )

To be fair. They did also change the SoC of the units.
Both 2019 versions use the X1+ that is a 25% performance bump over the normal X1 of the older versions. And it really makes a difference for some things like GC/Wii emulation.

But it is worth $60 (controller price)? It's very debatable.

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thesoftware7301180d ago

Just ordered my Shield T.V (new tube looking one), coming tomorrow, it should pair nice with my pc. This is great news as I have both PS5 and Xbox controllers no need to buy another controller.

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GeForce Now Impressions: Nvidia’s Service Works…But Is It What You Want?

Nvidia's GeForce Now streaming service is currently in beta, but the company hopes it will compete with Google Stadia to change the future of gaming. See how it works.

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FullDiveDerail1532d ago

ouch that home hardware is lacking

Mr_Writer851532d ago

But the content is not. And that's the key.

I'm going to try this simply because my laptop is old and I have no desire/room/time to buy/build a gaming PC.

Yet I have a big library of Steam games my laptop struggles to play. I can simply dip in and out as and when I choose and play these games for a small fee.

When I've had my fill, I can cancel, no extra cost.

Google hardware and even tech is superior. However, cost and content wise, it blows it out of the water.

VincenteFox1531d ago

I didn't mention it in the piece, because it wasn't really relevant (since I was downscaling to take the comparison image) but the home hardware is a 5700XT, a 3700X, 32 gb ram at 3600 mhz and an X570 board.