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Why Wii U is a Next Gen Console

Episode 1 of the new video series, The Game Capsule TV. The argument stops here as we learn what the word "generation" means, and why it makes the Wii U a "next gen" console

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jcnba283997d ago

Every sane person knows the Wii U is a next generation console. The people that say otherwise are just fanboys trying to hate, simple as.

LOL_WUT3997d ago

Still in denial huh? Developers have publicly come out and stated this there is no conspiracy going on it's the truth. ;)

lilbroRx3997d ago

No, some developers who have never made games for it have said.

Its as credible as me saying the same of the PS4 without working on it testing what it can do.

The people who have made good games on it say it is next gen. The people who work under EA or not on Nintendo hardware at all said it isn't.

I'll take the opinion of the person with hands-on experience.

-Mika-3997d ago

I agree. Insomiac and plenty of developers think the WiiU is a current gen console. If developers think it a current gen console, than nothing more needs to be said.

@ PopRocks359 and the fanboys with the Zelda avatars

When people think of next gen. They think of noticble improvement over the console they currently have. When ps1 owners saw the dreamcast or the ps2. They saw a next gen console. When ps2, xbox and GC owners saw the ps3 and 360. They saw a next gen console. When ps3/360 users look at the wiiU. They don't see a next gen console. To alot of gamers, in order for a console to be labeled as next gen, There needs to be a noticble difference in terms of power and features. The WiiU is lacking in both. This is why alot of gamers lable it as current gen.

mikeslemonade3997d ago (Edited 3997d ago )

Is IPHONE 5 a next generation system? No. If it's not playing the majority of the current gen games then it shouldn't be considered a next generation system along the likes of PS4 and Xbox 720. WiiU is current gen since it's playing mainly the current gen games out right now and is losing a lot of support from the next gen game development.

andrewer3997d ago (Edited 3997d ago )

Really, what is next-gen for you people? Why complicate it? It just means after the previous one ffs. It's called next-gen, not more-advanced-than-that-previo us-hardware-over-there, or even "better-one". If it meant "better-one" I wouldn't even call PS3 a next-gen because of the awesomenessessess(lol) of the PS2. God damn it.

Brasi19893997d ago

@-Mika-
The WiiU is classified, by your description, "Next Gen". Their is a noticeable difference in features. MiiVerse, the GamePad, Nintendo TVii, are just to name a few. The noticeable difference in terms of power has yet to be seen. Go back and look at end of cycle X-Box games and compare them to launch X-Box 360 games. These things do take time. But if we go solely by specs then, still, yes the WiiU should be considered "Next Gen". The CPU may be slower than the 360 and PS3 however with technological advancements the speed becomes irrelevant. Look at Intel vs AMD processors with the same speeds.

CouldHaveYelledUiiW3997d ago (Edited 3997d ago )

@-Mika-

1ST)

My Avatar is not Zelda-
Look closer-
it was created by a former games company whose name began with a "V"
in homage to the game you mentioned.

2ND)
We all know what you mean but it is an aberration of the meaning of the word "generation".

We have to fight the meaning because if we don't people push it even further.

-Some still can't admit that the WiiU is more powerful than current Gen.

-Companies have lied and then recanted stating that the WiiU can't run their "SCALABLE to SMART Phone" Engines.

The thing that is clear is that some companies have decided not to put the work in- Fine- They just shouldn't trash the WiiU in order to justify their personal choices.

All last Gen many games were designed for PC max specs but received a downgraded version for consoles- so how is it now impossible to do the same thing for WiiU.
Ex. Watch_Dogs is on PS3- PC... how is this possible?

Developer choice that's How.

jameson123453997d ago

Some have said it is(Activision and Ubisoft for example, and even EA at one point), some say it isn't (Like EA now, and a couple others)

Legend_Killer3996d ago

developers who have never attempted making games for it call it a current gen console. all they do is port old games that can be enjoyed elsewhere and dont even release DLC. If WiiU's first party games show next gen graphics then we'll see the truth abt these devs.
E3... Can't wait

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MEsoJD3997d ago

Wii-U sure feels current gen to me.

To me a gen represents a certain range of graphics/hardware across systems.

- Sega Genesis, super nintendo

- Saturn, Playstation, nintendo 64

- Dreamcast, Playstation 2, Xbox, Gamecube,
mid- wii(graphics capibility around the same, but better online functionality)

- Playstation 3, Xbox 360, WiiU

- Playstation 4, Xbox ???

To each his own. I just may purchase a WiiU if Nintendo changes it's network policy to have games tied to accounts, a price drop, making the gamepad optional in system purchase(the thing cost like 120 to replace and I have no interest), announce original ip and revive neglected. Unlike past Nintendo consoles, Smash Bros is not going to be enough to warrant a purchase.

JuleyJules3996d ago (Edited 3996d ago )

i like how you conveniently leave wii out of last-gen and toss in wiiu lumping the wii in the previous gen. It was the next-gen over the gamecube. the last gen was wii/ps3/360 as they came out in 2005/06. Next-gen for consoles is WiiU/PS4/Xbox 720 (or whatever). They're out in 2012/13. It simply has to do with when they're released. For Nintendo the Wii U is a big leap forward over the Wii - their last-gen console.

MEsoJD3996d ago

@JuleyJules

This is how I've always viewed gens pertaining to systems. A gen for me consist of systems hardware/graphics that are similar or not too far apart from each other. Given the specs and released footage of ps4 and the soon to be announced xbox, their leap is obvious. Anyone I think my first comment was pretty self exclamatory. Oh wells... :)

slaton243996d ago

to MEso this is not directed to you....guys next gen means the new console release in two years lets say the wiiU2 comes out than its a next gen than the wiiu will be current gen...specs and power isn't the next gen just the console release....by the way cant wait for ps4 and after that I still plan on buyin a wii U.

PopRocks3593997d ago

It's part of the eighth generation of video game consoles while its predecessor was in the seventh. That's really all that needs to be said on the matter.

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Kingthrash3603997d ago

of corse this is next gen! just the weakest of the next gen and slightly stronger than the current.....I dont remember this convo with the wii and it was basically the same difference in power.
I see it like this if apple calls iphone 5 the next gen phone after iphone 4 the wiiu is definitely next gen...
last point look up at both the comments above these guys have it right 100%

Gr813997d ago

Not Next Gen..anymore. It is current gen, as Wii/PS3/360 are last gen. And PS4/Infinity will be current gen once released.

CouldHaveYelledUiiW3997d ago

It's a shame when you have to break-out the dictionary-
especially for such a common word a "generation".

Hicken3996d ago (Edited 3996d ago )

Generation has an additional meaning when speaking of technology.

Yes, the Wii U is part of the eighth generation of consoles, and is Nintendo's next generation of console. Therefore, chronologically, it's next gen.

However, from a technological standpoint, the Wii U is closer to consoles in the chronological generation before it than the consoles it'll be competing against. Therefore, it's also current gen.

Both sides are right, in this case. It's simply a matter of the two sides realizing this.

Edit: Honestly, though, if this question REALLY needs asking so frequently, then it's not as simple a "yes" as many people want to make it seem.

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Wii U games that still haven't been ported to Switch

The Nintendo Switch is potentially nearing its lifespan, and several Wii U games haven't found their way over as ports yet.

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Vits2d ago

I think it's better to leave games like AC: Amiibo Festival and Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash forgotten on the Wii U. Best case, they are mediocre games; worse case, they are very bad. It was a dark time for the Wii U, and the first only exists to sell Amiibo cards, whereas the second was put together in a couple of months with a shoestring budget, and it shows.

The rest of the list does have some really cool games, though. I would love to see a remake of Star Fox Zero with decent controls, and Xenoblade X doesn't require that much modification to work.

Z5012d ago

How would XCX work without dual screens functionality?

Cacabunga2d ago

Same as Paper Mario color splash. One of the best wiiu games and getting even better with dual screen. Same reason why i prefer Splatoon 1

Profchaos2d ago

This article leaves out Nintendo's most controversial game to date devils Third.
I personally found the cover system really fun in that one compared to at the time most fps games completely lacking one.

Stevonidas2d ago

Devil's Third is HIGHLY underrated.

repsahj2d ago

They should remake Starfox to the switch 2. Very beautiful game during gamecube days.

Chocoburger2d ago

Kirby is always ignored or forgotten by people, so good to see it mentioned here.
Play Kirby Canvas Curse on DS, and then play Rainbow Curse on Wii U, they're really fun and unique 'platformers' without any actual jumping.

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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PS5 Pro specs leak video taken down by Sony

Sony is taking actions as video by Moore’s Law is Dead, has been issued with a copyright claim.

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andy856d ago

And people say it's all fake because Sony haven't said anything 😂 conveniently forget the PS4 Pro was only announced 2 months before release.

BeHunted6d ago

It's fake. There's no factual evidence other than his own made up specs.

Hereandthere6d ago

What were the specks Sony was afraid of showing?

Shikoku6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Digital foundry put a video out saying what he leaked was exactly what they also knew about the PS5 PRO. So no it's not just stuff he made up

Babadook76d ago (Edited 6d ago )

If it’s fake what copyright does MLID infringe upon?

😂

andy856d ago

Aye because they'd go to the effort of copyright claiming it if it didn't exist 🙃😂 you'd have to be a special kind to be thinking its not a thing by now

Cacabunga6d ago

They need to reveal it with uncharted killzone or a heavy hitter like this

Ironmike6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

U mean the specs that we'll established digital foundry which said these are the actual specs published a video on 2 weeks ago I mean they are only one of most trusted sites for tech information but they just made up a video for the sake of it

Christopher6d ago

I would love for it all to be fake, but lots of people are saying they've seen/heard the same thing. But, man, we 100% don't need mid-gen upgrades when we're failing hard to optimize current hardware.

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Seraphim5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

if I recall Sony lowered sales expectations for PS5 earlier this year. if that is the case we won't hear anything about a Pro until next year or shortly before/when it's dropping. After all, if the Pro was dropping this year/fiscal year they wouldn't have lowered expectations.

As for squashing rumors. Yeah, shit like this prevents potential buyers from adopting now, just like slim rumors in the past. It only makes sense to keep things under wraps from a business perspective. Despite living in a technological age of unfettered access to information we don't need to know whats going on behind closed doors be that at Sony, Nintendo, MS, or amongst any development studios. When the steak is done we shall feast.

JackBNimble5d ago

By the time games are actually made to take advantage of the pro spec's the ps6 will be released or close to it.

jznrpg6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Just announce it already! I want to preorder one asap. But in reality they don’t want to lessen PS5 sales until Pro is ready to launch so I understand the business part of it. September is probably when they announce it with an early November launch like the PS4 Pro

Ironmike6d ago

Pro won't lessen sales sames ps4 pro never and the ps4 pro was more relevant at the time cos move to 4k this not needed

RaidenBlack6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Yea, my brother got his PS4 (coz of a good deal) after the PS4 Pro's release.

darthv726d ago

^^same here. I got a base 4 for only $100 off a guy who bought the Pro. then a few months later I found a guy on craigslist selling a pro for $100 because it was left behind by his former roommate who moved out. That was the beginning of my obsession to buy up the different variants of the PS4 that were released.

As of now I am really only missing the 500m one and the gold slim but otherwise I have pretty much all the other retail ones. https://consolevariations.c...

crazyCoconuts5d ago

Anyone with 4K that appreciates 60fps is gonna disagree about it not being needed.
DLSS is a god send for Nvidia, and there's been nothing like it for AMD...yet ...

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DeadlyFire6d ago

They will announce it around E3 timeframe about May-June whenever they do a showcase for the year.

neutralgamer19926d ago

Just announce it this thing will sell well

Ironmike6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

I don't think it will pll still haven't seen the potential of ps5 yet

Cacabunga6d ago

agreed, but it might sell if they announce some 1st party games to lead the way. if people see the difference with the base version they can move on. for my sake I am still gaming mainly on PS4 (still not finished with RDR2 due to lack of gaming time). I have a huge backlog on PS5 I am hoping to get into.

mark3214uk6d ago

why? game makers havnt even come close to maxing out current spec yet, were getting al lthese new TFlops and game maker are making crappy remakes not worthy of the ps3

Minute Man 7216d ago

The guts of the 5 and X are 5 years old

fr0sty6d ago

People keep saying that, yet we still have games running at near HD resolutions, 30fps, and ray tracing features turned off.

PRIMORDUS6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

I would take that video and upload a torrent of it, fuck that copyright bullshit. If your going to do something that has a chance of being taken down, make a torrent first share it. Then Sony or any other company is helpless and you can laugh in their faces, taunting them to try to take it down 🤣

LoveSpuds6d ago

With kind of analysis and advice, you could be a lawyer for Trump!🤣

tronyx126d ago

As much as the PS4 Pro didn't represent a major % in the playerbase, announcing a 'better' model will hinder sales from the 'base' model. They are right, business-wise.

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