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Guerilla dev: Killzone Shadow Fall will explore who the Helghast really are

Speaking exclusively with OPM UK, Killzone Shadow Fall’s game director Steven ter Heide explained that the PS4 shooter will explain more about the Helghast mythology than in any previous game.

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DEATHSTROKE-cro-3991d ago

very good.
that's what we all want because we like them more than ISA
haha

Killzone, inFamous and Watch Dogs are must-buy for PS4.
at least for me :)

Knight_Crawler3991d ago (Edited 3991d ago )

Thats cool an all but why dont they just introduce more factions.

Does the KZ universe only consist on two factions the ISA and Helghans?

Also they need to explore the current universe more, where are the kids and women, where id the wild life, why are they only millitary buildings, where is the culture and do Helghans have feelings....the universe needs to be more alive.

abzdine3991d ago

yes but pleaaase, pleaaaaaaaase GG listen to the fans feedback about the multiplayer!! i wanna enjoy this game as much as i did with KZ2

Hicken3991d ago

Why introduce more factions? Killzone is about the conflict between the ISA- led by planet Vekta- and the Helghast. What would be the point in having some new side show up in their war, especially when that conflict is far from over?

dedicatedtogamers3991d ago (Edited 3991d ago )

I really wish Guerilla (or another studio @ Sony) would take the time to flesh out the Killzone universe. Behind the scenes, there is an incredibly rich backstory available. Reading through the backstory, you learn that the helghast are not necessarily the bad guys and that the ISA have done just as many terrible things. Of course, none of this is explained in the game and instead the helghast are space Nazis and your buddies keep shouting in your ear "hey bro! Shoot that f****ng helghast scum!" and the helghast kill your buddies, so they MUST be evil!

LAZL0-Panaflex3991d ago (Edited 3991d ago )

You're right isa is whack. Especially Rico...what a goob. Take off the masks! Take off the masks. And I wanna see some chick helghasts. I wanna see them with superhuman strength like Wikipedia said they have not pudgy little curly from 3 stooges knockoffs that die with one melee.

Maddens Raiders3991d ago (Edited 3991d ago )

I've played Kizzy since the PS2 days and I've always liked the ISA (mainly because I became attached to the four heroes since the story admittedly was from their point of view).

Also, I'll say KILLZONE, GT, and TLOU are must-buys for the PS4. So while we like the same things generally speaking, there remians a bit of variation therein, which makes everything work in the first place. :)

BTW - I also want to state that I love Rico, Jann, Sev, Lugar, Radec and Stahl in that order. (See I do like some Helghast guys as well). I get it to a degree (he killed Visari and got Natko and Garza fucked up), but I am really tired of the Rico hate -- I mean the guy is an integral part of the series and is just an all around bad ass and good hearted fellow imho. Despite his transgressions and shortcomings, Rico is a very "round" & believable character (the most by my count - and shows a bit of the unpredictability and chaos of WAR) and let's not forget w/o Rico, Narville and the rest of the extraction team in Kizzy3 would've been laid to waste on Helghan allowing Stahl to reign holy hell on the rest of the ISA with his Petrucite cannon!

With all of that said we do need an open door to look deeper into what "makes and made" the Helghast... the Helghast as my attention to detail of the ISA storyline above, demonstrates. So far we only have known bits and pieces of the Helghast people, it's leaders, cities, and people. Very good news here indeed.

ok all out of bubbles..

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OhReginald3991d ago

cool they are probably gonna make the helghast more villainous.

Dark_Overlord3991d ago (Edited 3991d ago )

Is that even possible? Rico proves the ISA are the most evil :D Seriously, he needs killing off

raztad3991d ago

Pretty much this.

And it saddens me :(. There is potential for something much more exciting than just your typical generic-isa-are-the-good-guyz and Helghast-are-the-Nazis tales.

Eldyraen3991d ago (Edited 3991d ago )

I actually disagree: I think they are going to make them more "human" as you are essentially playing a peacekeeper that is meant to keep both factions in check this time around. As it is also supposed to be a little more narrative this time around we will likely be seeing more of both sides outside of strict combat segments (such as the beginning--before the blow out you saw a city in its prime during peacetime with non combatant npcs "interacting" seperate from yourself).

I am hoping and expecting something similar elsewhere in the game as you track down the true villains (which are likely a rogue group that is likely supported but not tied to either the Helghast government or at least key characters that are). Hopefully we see more into what makes both sides tick but as a third party in a sense. Without forcing it on people though it could be eluded to in npc conversations (whispers as you progress through streets) or from notes/intel that FPS often use for extra story tidbits.

The fact the ISA and Helghast now live side by side in some form should mean they were at least willing to cooperate on some level or were forced to do so. Its likely not accepted by many however and love lost would be minor (sort of N/S Korea--they are tied together by shared history yet at odds with each other constantly... or Israel/Palestine as its actually the more violent of the 2 and closer proximity). Naturally Germany and Berlin Wall comes to mind as well but just don't quite get that vibe for some reason although very "fitting" due to Helghast/Nazi similarities.

I think we will end up fighting the Helgast still of course but more of a new reich (as in Germany in WW1 and Nazi Germany in 2--similar yet fundamentally different). They are the extremist Helghast faction that has risen in from the ashes of the old although not supported by as many of the former (similar to Nazi's--they started off and spoke of national pride and resentments from post war depression and only after did they excalate to full blown "monsters").

At least that is what I hope to see--a less "generic" war shooter. It is the perfect time as devs have said its basically perfect time for a new direction. As long as they keep most of the mechanics, controls, and action it will be great but a more in depth story wouldn't hurt either. I just want next gen to be truly special and am hoping for the best. This gen had some phenomenal shooters that broke out of the mold enough to make me believe others will follow suit or continue to do so.

LAZL0-Panaflex3991d ago

That's what I'm talking about.

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Killzone After a Decade in Hibernation

It's been 10 years since Killzone: Shadow Fall arrived for PlayStation 4 early adopters, and there's no sign of another sequel.

Obscure_Observer154d ago

Sadly it was dumped by Guerrilla to focus on Horizon games only. Mainline, VR and Multiplayer.

Vengeance1138154d ago

lmao sadly? Are you pretending to have actually played the series lol Sorry bud, no Killzone on Xbox.

Cacabunga154d ago

With the downfall of COD and BF, Killzone def. has a chance to make a groundbreaking comeback

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Notellin153d ago (Edited 153d ago )

What a low-functioning reply here typical of the fanboy N4G community.

Rimeskeem154d ago

“Dumped”

I think it’s called moving on.

Barlos153d ago (Edited 153d ago )

They brought out 4 main games and 2 spin offs: one on PSP and one on Vita. That's a decent run for any series. I also understand that Shadow Fall wasn't a success commercially despite it coming out at PS4 launch, and as a big Killzone fan even I couldn't get into it, so I think Sony/Guerrilla could see it was time to move on.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love another Killzone game in the vein of KZ2 but it's just not happening. Hell, I'd even take a remake or remaster of the first 3 games.

I'd hardly say it was "dumped" though, it spanned 3 console generations and 2 handheld generations.

1Victor153d ago

@obscured:”Sadly it was dumped by Guerrilla to focus on Horizon games only. Mainline, VR and Multiplayer”

Happily it was dumped by Guerrilla to focus on Horizon games only. Mainline, VR and Multiplayer( edited to reflect the writer true feelings and allegiance)
Kill zone was a FPS far ahead of its glitched competitors with nauseating bad camera angles, 10 years old screaming curses like a drunk sailor and bot aiming assist.

ChasterMies153d ago

“Sadly”?

The Horizon games were among the best games of all time. Killzone Shadowfail wasn’t.

Shane Kim153d ago

True, but damn the memories of KZ2 multiplayer. Still no MP as fun as that to this date.

Mr_cheese153d ago

Dumped and shelved are two different things

Tacoboto153d ago

And Sony as a whole dumped the FPS genre so they wouldn't have products competing with COD and (until purchase) Destiny.

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GoodGuy09154d ago

I loved the KZ2+3 campaigns and MP in 2. There could be so much more done with the franchise. Horizon although good, I wish they'd go back to this wonderful IP. Take a break from Horizon please.

Flawlessmic153d ago

Agreed dude, I would absolutely love a reboot of the series, one can only hope that either resistance or killzone makes a return.

Have nothing but great memories, especially of the first 3 games, but all 4 were show stoppers graphically.

blackbeld153d ago

To making it a successful reboot they have to change that buttons layout! Make it playable like the cod button layout. Otherwise I’ll skipping it again.

Rynxie153d ago

And that's the reason why many fps games failed. Instead of being original and catering to it's fans, they tried to make it like cod. No, kz doesn't need cod button layout. It needs to be like it was on kz2 or balanced liked kz3.

Lightning77154d ago

I think Kill Zone would do great in Sony's LS push. As well as MAG reboot and bring back Resistance into LS.

Sharky231153d ago

@Lightning77

I think WarHawk would have been a great Live service game.

thorstein154d ago

Killzone games were so polished. The gameplay was just simple joy. MP was one of the best experiences.

I remember KZ3, just staring at how awesome they animated the water and then getting wasted because of it.

P_Bomb154d ago

It’s been a decade? Now I’m sad.

LiViNgLeGaCY153d ago

I hear ya bud. We're due for a revival.

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20 Years of Guerrilla: The Story of a PlayStation Studio

The Amsterdam-based studio reflects on its humble beginnings, beloved franchises, and growth through the years.

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SullysCigar344d ago

Up there with the top tier in the industry. Love Guerrilla Games - Horizon Burning Shores is simply STUNNING.

1Victor344d ago

Can’t wait for their next franchise

SullysCigar344d ago

Same. They nailed it with Horizon. The trouble is I also want a new Killzone! Can't I just have it all?!

jznrpg344d ago

I’m with you I want Horizon 3 , Killzone and new IPs

badz149344d ago

I have yet to play Burning Shores as I just started Forbidden West (bought at launch, just unwrapped last weekend LOL) and playing on PS5.

man...I still can't believe the graphics especially now I'm playing it on my LG OLED. that graphics and with stable performance backing it up, GG really is the master of their craft!

Vengeance1138344d ago

32.7M sales in the Horizon franchise! With 8.4M coming from Forbidden West alone! Truly a hugely successful game and franchise as a whole. Looking forward to Horizon III

Shane Kim344d ago

That's kind of a huge drop though. It's only been two games.

VersusDMC344d ago

One year after realease HZD sold 7.6 million.

https://www.noobfeed.com/ne...

So not a drop off.

Unless you're saying a HFW should have sold as much now as HZD sold in 5 years?

Vengeance1138344d ago

It's been 3 games, this includes Call of the Mountain. Also no, its a great improvement over HZD.

solideagle344d ago

lol you are comparing:

HZD: 28 February 2017 - May 2023 (6 years+)

HFW: 18 February 2022 - May 2023 (1 year+)

We will see if it surpass original number.

Phoenix76344d ago

@shane, 2 full main games, 2 DLC add ons, 1 VR spin off game, oh and a an official LEGO set.
Not too bad for an ip that's only been on market for 6 years

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REDGUM344d ago

Wow, very impressive. I didn't know the numbers were so high for Forbidden West. Still playing through it myself

thesoftware730344d ago (Edited 344d ago )

Yooo, when I first saw that Killzone 1 footage at E3, my friends my brothers and I were like, Holy shit! When it came out, it didn't look exactly like it, but we sunk so many hours into 1 & 2.

I even liked Killzone: SF, it was a spectacle to look at, and even today it looks good. I hope they make a new one. Can you imagine how that will look, and they can get some modern FPS pointers from Bungie.

blacktiger344d ago

thank you fps lover, I'm with you

talocaca344d ago

Such a wonderful studio. They deserve all their success.

The Decima Engine is absolute 🔥 I'm just mad they have abandoned Killzone.

OzzY-waZZy344d ago (Edited 344d ago )

Kinda wish they move on from Horizon tbh.

potatoseal344d ago

They are probably working on mutiple projects. One of them is Horizon 3, but another is a multiplaer game and probably somehting else.

Imalwaysright344d ago

There were rumours that they were working on a Socom reboot.

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Guerrilla Announces Shutdown of Servers for Killzone: Shadow Fall and More

In August, online servers for several PlayStation games will shut down, leaving their multiplayer functions unplayable.

purple101635d ago

whrere on earth is the next killzone, im soooOOO thirsty for some proper weighted, (but still fast when running/sprinting) fps gamplay, it felt sooso so good on ps3, with that, lets be honest, very small, quite uncomfortable sixaxis dualshock controller, that was just too small for western sized hands, ok for japanese kids i suppose was the point>??

now with PS5 controller, it would be totally masterfull.

ClayRules2012635d ago

I hear you. I want some NEW Killzone, especially on PS5, with the PS5 DualSense controller with that ever so impressive DualSense of an experience Haptic feedback!

Knowing how far Guerrilla has come since Horizon: Zero Dawn, Killzone can only benefit greatly from their ever growing talent!!

Bobertt634d ago

I think Sony has given up on their exclusive shooters. They haven't released a remaster for the Resistance series or a new SOCOM game either. I don't think Guerilla is in a rush to make Killzone since they have Horizon now too :(.

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Outside_ofthe_Box635d ago

All I want is for them to build Killzone 2 with multiplayer included from the ground up, keep the gameplay the same, and I'll be happy.

GG with KZ3 and Shafowfall haven't been able to match KZ2 so I don't really have faith in another sequel.

Unfortunate that KZ2 came out during COD era where every game that didn't pay like Modern Warfare was deemed garbage. KZ2's multiplayer is definitely an all time great.

Michiel1989635d ago

since when was kz2 deemed garbage?

MizHDTV635d ago

Right on dude
KZ2 was just a special game to me

sinspirit635d ago

I'd love KZ2 multiplayer again. I also think they could easily incorporate a mode to compete with Battlefield style game modes

Seraphim635d ago

KZ2 was one of maybe a handful of games I actually put time into online. What a blast!! And the campaign was excellent as well. I certainly miss that dark world. Still ashamed I never buttoned up that Platinum.

Storm23635d ago

A remake of Killzone 2 with the same grittiness and feel on PS5 would be f*cking incredible. The SP and MP were just perfect. I played the sh*t out of that game. Would happily pay a lot of money for that.

DarXyde635d ago

Honestly, I don't like FPS games. They're not for me, but I do agree that there was something about KZ2 multiplayer that even someone like me enjoyed.

Sony really needs to get better about tearing down servers. I don't like that they shut them down.

shadowT634d ago

agree, KZ2 was a masterpiece

Muigi634d ago

KZ3 multiplayer was better imo.

Outside_ofthe_Box634d ago (Edited 634d ago )

@Michiel1989
"since when was kz2 deemed garbage?"

As with anything, things don't get the appreciation it deserves until way after it's release.

KZ2 got a lot of flak for it's weighty controls that many mistook for input lag. People didn't like that it wasn't a twitch shooter like CoD. You also had people saying things like "it feels like you're controlling a midget", "enemies take too long to die" (you can't pray and spray in kz2. You have to shoot in bursts for your shots to be more accurate), people complained about the sniping, etc.

This led to a lot of changes in KZ3 that turned the vets off like reducing the amount of variables for bullet damage, getting rid of spawn grenades, etc.

BISHOP-BRASIL634d ago

@DarXyde

I don't think there's much Sony or any other company in that position can do much different about it... Keeping servers running simply cost money, these gomes don't generate none anymore, so eventually they need to pull the plug.

Astrokis634d ago

KZ2 was definitely better then KZ3, but the third one still had strong suits. It’s been many years but I remember something about Shadow Fall being made by a team at GG that did NOT do KZ2 and KZ3 multiplayer which is why it felt different. I remember when I found that out it made a lot of sense about Shadow Falls multiplayer feeling so off.

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elazz635d ago

Horizon zero dawn sold more copies than all of the killzone franchise combined including spin offs on handheld. I guess that's the reason why won't see killzone from guerilla soon. There is at least one more mainline horizon coming out and their second team is working on horizon VR I believe. So it's gonna be a while unless another studio takes over.

Profchaos635d ago

I've been playing a lot of Killzone 2 on rpcs3 with a duelsense combined with the ability to remap controls to a modern standard and bump the game to 60fps it shows that we really need a remaster to probably the best killzone game to date although shadowfall technically beats it in the graphics department art style was so different that they are incomparable

MizHDTV635d ago

I’d be happy with a release of KZ2

John_McClane635d ago

Killzone went to the same place as Socom and Mag, more money in 25 hour single player games with no servers to maintain. Socom was literally the reason I bought a PS2, Resistance FOM the reason I bought a PS3, all gone now.

senorfartcushion634d ago (Edited 634d ago )

Killzone has never been weighted correctly, the jumping never worked.

A new properly-weighted shooter in the Killzone series would be great. More like Killzone 1 and 2 than SF.

I think the issue comes from the fact that the Helghast side is sympathetic while looking like Nazi stormtroopers. The Trump age has led artists to avoid this look entirely.

ironmonkey634d ago

I feel something may be announced soon

ManMarmalade634d ago (Edited 634d ago )

The sixaxis felt fine in my hands since they're small, but the ps5 really made me feel the difference. So ergonomic.

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Gardenia634d ago

Killzone 2 was/is so good and it still looks good today. The multiplayer was fun as well. If they make a new Killzone I hope it is the style of Killzone 2.

Hauntedasylum8635d ago

I wish Sony didn’t abandon Resistance and Killzone. Those are some of my favorite series on PlayStation. If they’re not gonna make anymore, then maybe a remastered collection of each could be negotiated.

DefenderOfDoom2635d ago

KILLZONE 2 was my reason for buying a PS3. If a new KILLZONE or RESISTANCE was coming out in 22 I would try to buy a PS5 immediately.

Lightning77635d ago

SSOD2 would be big for Sony. The only reason they would be interested in it is if they can turn it into a live service game.

In which I can see that happening.

Hauntedasylum8635d ago

Hell yeah, brother. You and me both.

VanDamme634d ago

For anyone trying to understand @Lightning77’s comment, they had a typo, this should clarify:

SOD2
Superoxide dismutase 2, mitochondrial, also known as manganese-dependent superoxide dismutase, is an enzyme which in humans is encoded by the SOD2 gene on chromosome 6.

Profchaos635d ago

After 5 killzone games including portable Sony felt it needed a break I wouldn't say its abandoned however I believe we may randomly get a ps5 remaster with improved lighting to test the waters and eventually a full blown new game after all you can't just leave shadowfall on that ending

SeTTriP635d ago

Horizon is priority now its a mega franchise for them maybe after Horizon they might revisit.

Imalwaysright634d ago

I refuse to play for online play but there is one game that would make pay for it and that's Resistance Fall of Man. That's the only game that would make me throw my principles out of the window without feeling ashamed of myself.

jBlakeeper634d ago

Remember in the mid 2000’s when nearly every developer started to do FPS or linear third person? Now nearly every developer wants to do open world exclusively because it’s the easiest type of game to leave things out and then expand upon the world with DLC.

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deleted635d ago

So many fond memories of both Shadowfall and Mercenaries Vita online! Shadowfall's SP may have been weak, but the MP was still a ton of fun. I had a lot of time in both, and it's especially tough seeing the Vita's best mp experience get shut down.

RIP my old friends.

LoveSpuds634d ago (Edited 634d ago )

In my opinion, I thought the single player games was really decent too and was treated quite harshly by the critics, but then, I think the Killzone franchise as a whole was kinda under rated by the critics. I always enjoyed the story in these games and I liked the slower, more deliberate gunplay too.

I remember getting my PS4 on day 1 and the first game I installed was Killzone Shadowfall, my workmates and I would play it for hours on end, the mode whish switched between game modes was brilliant.

P_Bomb635d ago

A world without Killzone Online. That it’s come to this…

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