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Ubisoft aim to build for PC, Watch Dogs producer claims otherwise

Earlier this year, Yves Guillemot of Ubisoft told the Dutch gaming website InsiderGamer that Watch Dogs was being built for PC, and scaled back onto every other major platform:

“The team is developing it on high end PCs and next gen, after that other teams are looking how they can make it fit for the older generation. So the first approach is to see how they can take full advantage of the next gen consoles.”

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Crazyglues4006d ago (Edited 4006d ago )

You know I don't think people will get this, but this is actually how you want your games made... -(built for PC)-

PC First, then scale it down to hit consoles. People may not like that because if your on console and you version is going to make up the majority of sales, then you might prefer that the game was designed for your system..

But When you go PC first, Gamers are actually getting a better game. Because Your getting the game the developers are dreaming of making with all the ideas and no limitations.. -then after it's made you try to find a way to make it run on lower hardware...

What you don't want is a game designer working on the game and saying, "oh well the system can't do none of that so those features are out"

So Crytek's Cryengine 3 is a great example of understanding the problem Game companies face, and I'll try not to make this too long..

( When Crysis 1 came out it was the baddest thing on the planet and even high-end PC's at that time were brought to their knees. -Because they just made the game they wanted without limits-
-But It also put it out of the hands of a huge amount of gamers because they could not even run it or play it.

-So the question becomes does it really need such high detail can we tone that down a little so I can get it to run?

And here is the Balance of what Cryengine 3's real talent is -(Cryteks game engine used for Crysis 3)- Make a rock look really good but then re-do the rock so it still looks good but the graphics card does not have to cry to show it to the player..

-you the player really don't care about the rock you just want it too look good. And you don't want, it to give you a performance hit.. -So if the game has to slow down the shooting because the rock is at such high detail, then you want the rock toned down big time... (But you still want that rock to look really good, but more important you want the game to play fluid, with no slow down)

This is the best of both worlds, and this is why Crysis 3 looks really good on PC and that same game looks really good on Consoles.. This hit the balance of the two perfectly.. It's all about scaling it down in the right way.

WatchDogs seems to be on that same level - were the PS4 version will come so close to the high-end PC it will be hard to tell the difference... (This how we will get the best games possible)

And don't be fooled this is how all Third party games are going to be designed, PC first and then scaled down. -And then they will try to add things that maybe that console does well, but more likely they will just port the PC version. -NOT BAD BECAUSE these new consoles will be just like PC architect.

But for current gen consoles it won't be as good as they are not really designed as low end PC's

-Ok this went on way too long... LoL - I should have just made a blog post. But to sum it up it will be amazing on PS4 and Nex Xbox, but not so much on current gen.. sorry

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ssj274005d ago (Edited 4005d ago )

Crysis is a PSN game.. fact!
yes pc has it advantages like more fps and higher resolution but that's about it.. in the end is the same game.

Smoke and mirrors .. stop over hyping PC games just because your graphics card can't max it out..

Fact crysis uno runs on 2005 console technology and it could not run on hight end pcs for few years lol

Watch Dogs was the less visually impressive game bext to Destiny .. and that because they are not true next gen games but just updates from old gen games.
Watch Dog gameplay and campaign seem interesting, the visuals are ok but nothing impressive.

reynod4005d ago

"Fact crysis uno runs on 2005 console technology and it could not run on hight end pcs for few years lol"

Its running below 720p with most of the vegetation and foilage missing. Textures are really low res with hardly any AA at all.

They tried to run the game on ultra settings on high end PCs, two completely different scenarios.

Load up a 8800GTX today and it will play Crysis 1 in 1080p Medium settings 30fps. With none of the vegetation or foilage missing, The game was just significantly dumbed down for consoles.

aquamala4005d ago (Edited 4005d ago )

Did you think they look the same? Lol

When pc gamers in 2006-2008 wonder if their rig can run crysis, they don't mean in low to mid settings and only in 720p and low frame rates

Digital foundry has a comparison
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

Objects are downright removed in console versions, and missing one entire level . Ps3 runs as low as 12fps

RAYMEISTER4005d ago

Wow u really have no idea what u r talking about.

MikeMyers4005d ago

"What this means is that, contrary to Ubisofts initial word, the PS4 (and ostensibly PC) versions are being scaled upwards – meaning the game has been created with PS3 memory restrictions in mind."

And people still think consoles are not holding back PC gaming.

ssj274004d ago

I don't care if is running in low settings.. "it does not have as many leaves" are you kidding meeee? Like you will play the game and start counting the leaves? Lol wait the game is so boring that I bet you will do that..
What metter is that the game is playable less leaves.. less res less fps .. one small portion of the map was taken off who cares is not like the game is not playable and for a reason it was been sold for $20 because they knew it was poorly ported.

And you are telling me that PC do not hold back PC? Pc games are made to be able to run in low setting setup and is a fact.. don't blame consoles.. PC hold back PC and is the reality.
I'm as mad as you are that is gen has last so much .. it's annoying. But the PS4 is here and low end PC will hold it back and that's another fact..

Don't play the stupid guys and act lile you don't understand all this.. is clear and easy to understand ... you guys got owned by your own word's and that's another fact.

aliengmr4004d ago

@ssj27

PC games scale for lower end systems. Meaning you can adjust down from the highest possible settings.

You don't seem to understand the concept of scalability.

ssj274004d ago (Edited 4004d ago )

Well by your logic and this is a fact..
this is how PC gamers think and is sad, because graphics are not equal to resolution or frames per second are mot equal to fluidity.

Example one.. I got a sexy slim camera that does 20mp and I got a professional camera that does 10mp, the way PC gamers will think is that the 20mp camera will give you better picture quality but the reality is that the professional camera is the one who does that thanks to the more advanced technology.

Example two.. by your logics tetris runing at 4k will look better than Killzone shadow fall running at 1080p 30fps and Tetris been 120fps3 runs smoother.. that logic do not apply to smart guys like me, since I have eyes and KZSF clearly looks and runs better than Tetris, you don't need numbers to know this but eyes to see the fact.

Stop saying crysis 3 a current gen game is next gen because it can run 4k at 120fps on a high end PC.. it does not magically make a current gen game next gen, is like me saying MGS 2 hd is current gen game just because they update the resolution fps and some visuals.. it will be stupid if I say such and thing and you guys are such a thing because you guys keep saying current gen games are next gen just because you can go higher on fps and resolution .. it's not..

I close this case you guys got owned by a smart guy and just learn something new, you are welcome.

Don't fight a fight with lies because the truth always wins..
love.live.play.lol!

Peace out fellow gamers.

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aliengmr4004d ago

Queue the rage disagrees.

Spot on. Being able to scale back on certain features while keeping others is the right approach.

Neixus4005d ago

isn't atleast as a big issue compared to last gen, next gen is more pc like architecture

Agent_hitman4005d ago

This game is good for crossfire or SLI build PC.. Looking at the vfx of this game, it looks stunning indeed.. We'll be needing a powerful PC hardware to run this game on 60fps all setting tweaked to ultra high.

gamernova4005d ago

Scale down to the upcoming next gen consoles. This is a powerful statement for those who insist on thinking that the ps4 will come close to a high end PC

TheUndertaker854005d ago

"What this means is that, contrary to Ubisofts initial word, the PS4 (and ostensibly PC) versions are being scaled upwards – meaning the game has been created with PS3 memory restrictions in mind."

Didn't read the article did you

kevnb4005d ago

Try not to get caught up in pr talk...

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The entire WatchDogs series is 87% off and it's not even Black Friday

If you are looking for a bargain, check out the huge discounts across the entire WatchDogs series on Steam.

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Watch Dogs Deserves A Remake, More Than Ever

With the world of information and technology, privacy and security growing every day, Watch Dogs deserves another chance in the spotlight, now more than ever.

RaidenBlack1001d ago

The only Ubi title that deserves a faithful remake right now is Splinter Cell 1.
All 2014+ Ubi titles are just underwhelming. Especially ones from 2016+ are just cancer.

LucasRuinedChildhood1001d ago (Edited 1001d ago )

Seriously, are we so far removed from Ubisoft actually making good games that people now praise Watch_Dogs in retrospect?

"Watch_Dogs has remained one of my favourite games of the last ten years." Jesus Christ.

HankHill1001d ago

I remember being so disappointed in Watch Dogs when I played it at release. It was alright, but I think I fell for the hype and I needed a game to play on my new PS4.

obidanshinobi1001d ago

This is what happens when mediocrity gets praised as good.
Standards are slipping across the whole entertainment industry.
What was once considering rubbish is now considered as OK, what once was OK is now being praised as good etc etc.

LamerTamer1001d ago

Everyone has their own likes. I liked it a lot myself. I played through it twice and liked the car chases and the open world with fairly decent environments and missions. It suffered from the whole downgrade thing where they showed graphics that weren't actually there. No game will appeal to everyone but it was still ambitious for it's time.

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gantarat1001d ago

assassin's creed 1 should get a remake.

ExBee1001d ago

For certain! AC1 was brilliant at the time but with new graphics and gameplay it would be amazing! Do you prefer old combat or new though?

RaidenBlack1001d ago

I'd say a reimagining of AC1.
I direct AC1 remake would be a bad idea. It'll need better story pacing and significant better world building.

BlaqMagiq11001d ago

Old. Let it play like how it did with AC2-Syndicate style gameplay but refine the setting and story.

Profchaos1001d ago

It would need a lot changed for it to be enjoyable again as even back in 2007 on launch we were all complaining about it's repetitive gameplay go here perform one of three side quests repeat then assassination now do it over and over until a big battle with a unforgiving checkpoint system.

BlaqMagiq11001d ago

Absolutely. It needs it. The only AC I truly didn't enjoy.

chicken_in_the_corn1001d ago

I'd prefer it didn't. Ubisoft would make it so bloated, it wouldn't be anywhere near the original

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smolinsk1001d ago (Edited 1001d ago )

Absolutely, this watch dogs legion was terrible boring.

Profchaos1001d ago (Edited 1001d ago )

As a fan of the franchise legion was garbage and I regretted my purchase for the first time in the franchise the entire thing felt like an experiment in NPC behaviour and released without the writers input on what makes a good story.

I don't think I'm alone in that feeling though as wrench and Aiden are brought back and the campaign was rewritten to fit them.

I am tempted to buy the season pass to play it again with Aiden but fool me twice shame on me I'm waiting for a deep sale

camel_toad1001d ago

Agreed. Despite the annoying hipness of the characters in part 2 I thought it was a really fun game. I was extremely disappointed and surprised at how many steps back they took with Legion. You'd think it was made by an entirely different team. Or was it?

It was just so devoid of fun.

LamerTamer1001d ago

Honestly one of my biggest annoyances with Legion is that they took out the camera views for the driving. I mean the behind the car view that they stuck us with is near unplayable. I always used a first person driving view. After two releases why did they take OUT features? I don't get it.

TheSinsibleOne1001d ago

The fist watchdog game was the best by far
After that they weren't weird and annoying with that hipster stuff. Aiden was a badass.

LamerTamer1001d ago

I thought so at first too. I got used to it and it ended up being good after some play time. I just had to give it a chance.

TheEnigma3131001d ago

Remake the PoP series from xbox/ps2/gc era

RaidenBlack1001d ago

They are remaking Sands of Time.

TheEnigma3131001d ago

That's good news. Hopefully it's done right.

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Inside the Driver game that died so that Watch Dogs could live

From VG247: "When cars slide, they leave tyre marks. In a game like Driver, they’re an aesthetic touch, part of the inherent cool of a handbrake turn. But those dark shadows in the road also tell a story. From tyre marks, you can determine the speed of a vehicle, when it started to skid, and its ultimate direction of travel – long after the car itself has vanished into the distance."

vallencer1066d ago

Different spellings in different parts of the world friend. Tyre is a correct way to spell it.

Pridefall1066d ago

Dunno why you got downvpted when tyre is correct in Australia.

mikefizzled11065d ago

The mystery that is En Fore Gee

neutralgamer19921066d ago

Give us driver San Francisco remastered

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen1066d ago

Why did they stop making some of the best games ever? Driver was one of them.

Gameseeker_Frampt1065d ago

Assassins Creed 2 showed Ubisoft how to make money and Far Cry 2 showed them that gamers don't like complex ideas. Now Ubisoft just turns out games that are just variations of the same thing.

WeAreLegion1066d ago

Best driving mechanics ever made. Nothing has come close.

Gardenia1066d ago

A story driven game with pure driving gameplay. I'd love to see a new Driver game or a remake of the first one.

ApocalypseShadow1066d ago

Yes. This one. A definite remake of the first without adding any ridiculous fluff. The first game had great physics and sound for its time. The start of the car in the beginning cinema I watched constantly. My father and uncles were big muscle and classic car freaks. Only thing crazy about the game was the relentless cops in the last level. Insane the way those police cars were and launched at you.

Bleemcast made it look better just like PC emulators. But would definitely take a remake.

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