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Next Gen to Respawn Exclusive Deals, PS4 and Xbox 720 Industry Pains

The next generation is almost here, but with both the PS4 and the next Xbox thought to release within weeks of each other, every exclusive will count. The Daily Reaction duo of Seb and Dan discuss which console will receive more launch exclusives, why Microsoft is pursuing 3rd party exclusives and why that hurts everyone. - PSLS

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GameNameFame4011d ago

PS4 is permanent exclusives.

and Next box 3rd party exclusives will come to PS4 after a year.

GalacticEmpire4011d ago

There really is something unnervingly shady about third party exclusive deals. I always imagine a backroom with loads of goons playing poker where money changes hands and 'things get done'.

MikeMyers4011d ago

Like Virtua Fighter 5 and Final Fantasy XIII? The damage is already done after a year. Sony did this with Grand Theft Auto on the PS2. I think it's pretty safe to say that was a smart move. It also came out later on the Xbox.

I don't see why so many have issues when Microsoft does it other than they hate Microsoft and love Sony.

showtimefolks4011d ago

let's see E3 will be a lot of fun to watch, also ms should show few new games on may 21st to give a taste of whats to come at E3

i would be really surprised if EA let respwan go to MS, they have a contract and even if their partners program ends, they will still finish the games in development. Also EA went through legal trouble for respwan because Activision accused EA of stealing away their talent so it will be very hard to imagine EA saying go ahead

we are excited about a new IP we know next to nothing about, also i would much rather MS invest that money into small development teams and let them work on some new Ip's

sooner or later 3rd party exclusives end up on other consoles

GameNameFame4011d ago (Edited 4011d ago )

They just dont blindly love MS like you do.

I can afford to wait a year for more patched balanced DLCs included version of Next box's 3rd party exclusive on PS4.

MikeMyers4011d ago (Edited 4011d ago )

I blindly love Microsoft? If you're going to make wild accusations please show me where that's what I do.

It does make good business sense to have timed exclusives. I never said i prefer it. Most game sales happen in the beginning. How well did Oblivion sell on the PS3 compared to the Xbox 360? How about Bioshock? How well did GTA sell on the PS2? Now look at how GTA sells on the PS3 and Xbox 360. That isn't blind love towards Microsoft, it's what we call reality.

I also imagine Battlefield sells better on the PS3 in comparison to how well Call of Duty does compared to the Xbox 360. Both are shooters but Call of Duty is heavily marketed on the Xbox 360 and they also got timed exclusive DLC. Is saying that mean I'm blindingly loving Microsoft? Just because you can't say two good words about Microsoft doesn't mean everyone else has to be like that. It's called being rational.

DOMination-4011d ago

Nobody on this site had a problem with Ni No Kuni being a third party party exclusive. where were the articles then saying how bad it was for the industry?

I think more exclusives are better. For each console. This gen they had an identidy crisis, a few games aside they were pretty much the same. This time around id like to see them more defined.

Oh_Yeah4011d ago (Edited 4011d ago )

@MikeMyers the difference is while Sony does get 3 party exclusives from time to time, they also have plenty of their own 1st party exclusives... Something Microsoft does not, that is their problem.

MikeMyers4011d ago (Edited 4011d ago )

"MikeMyers the difference is while Sony does get 3 party exclusives from time to time, they also have plenty of their own 1st party exclusives... Something Microsoft does not, that is their problem."

Fair enough but again why is it a problem when Microsoft gets 3rd party timed exclusive deals and not for Sony and Nintendo? Obviously Microsoft is trying to be more attractive in comparison by telling people this is the console you should get the game on. It's no different than Sony getting GTA on the PS2 or Virtua Fighter on the PS3. Resident Evil on the Gamecube as well. If 1st party games are more important to you then support the system that you like those games on. This isn't about 1st party exclusives.

I myself don't think any 3rd party developer should be favoring one system over the other. They should do away with exclusive deals and let the 1st party games sell the hardware. Unless those 3rd party titles were made solely for that unique hardware like Wii motion controls at the time. However there has always been 3rd party deals and there likely always will be. People cannot pick and choose what they think is more 'ethical' just because they like one company more than the other or one has a better 1st party library.

shadow27974010d ago

The only third party exclusives I don't like are ones that happen during already an established series. Like Splinter Cell Conviction or Resident Evil 4. Fans of the series can't play the game on hardware that lets them play the other games in the series.

If it's a new IP, it's less of a deal to me.

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4010d ago

@GameNameFame
lol PS4 gets extra Destiny content day 1!!

But the game look kinda ok so far.

GameNameFame4010d ago (Edited 4010d ago )

I just heard sales talk too many times and stereotype people.If i am wrong, my mistake.

As for sales, I dont care.

As I said, I can afford to wait 1 year for DLC included plus patched version of the game. Not to mention cheaper prob.

Also, I never said it wasnt a problem when Sony and Nintendo do this crap 3rd party exclusives.

@Shutupandtakemoney

I dont care for extra content unless its essential.

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Aceman184011d ago

for me this is not a big deal i know what games i'll be getting for PS4. as for 720/whatever its called i won't be buying it as i won't pay to play online.

plus Respawn one game wouldn't be enough for me to shell out $400-500 for it, and im not going to pay full price for half a game.

JeffGUNZ4010d ago

Dude, buy whatever you want, but don't kid yourself. PSN+ was nothing more then Sony testing the waters of a paid subscription base to it's users. Their is nothing wrong with a paid subscription as long as the price justifies the content you receive. That being said, all those features we saw at the 02/20/2013 Sony reveal, Cloud based storage, Gaiki, sharing features, and all the other cool stuff they will show is going to cost us. Companies can't continue to provide more technological features and cool add-ons at no charge.

Aceman184010d ago

@Jeff

i said "pay to play online" this i refuse to do period. yes i subscribe to PS+ but i can still play online for FREE, and besides PS+ is optional i don't need it to play online

zeal0us4011d ago

Doubt it, if anything it will be quite the opposite. MS gaining Respawn exclusive won't hurt Sony since Sony already got a portfolio of exclusives.

Gaining Respawn exclusive really won't do anything to MS market they're a billion dollar corporation. One single game can't mass enough damage to half their market.

3 party exclusives doesn't ruin it for anyone. It's one of the driving factors when some consumer buys a new consoles.

jutt4011d ago

"Respawn is developing a multi-platform product based on new video game IP and funded through its publishing deal with Electronic Arts"

source :- http://www.respawn.com/game...

MYSTERIO3604010d ago

it seems we may have a lot more timed exclusivity deals from MS

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TrendyGamers4011d ago

DLC exclusivity is pretty much a given for Ghosts.

doctorstrange4011d ago

Exclusivity that doesn't actually take advantage of the single hardware just sucks. That counts for all platforms, mind, as they all do it (just MS usually more often).

I want my exclusives to make use of the console's particular specialties.

Utalkin2me4011d ago

That's why i have nor will buy any DLC from Activision published game, period.

Wedge194011d ago

The fact the Ghosts is being featured at the 'Box' event on the 21st pretty much assures that exclusivity content will be prevalent next gen, stronger than ever.

JeffGUNZ4010d ago

and it also shows me that the nextbox will release no later then 11/05/2013.

Jek_Porkins4011d ago

So PlayStation Life Magazine takes issue if Microsoft has the money to buy third party exclusivity? That is shocking /s

They are also going on and on about more rumors from Kotaku of all places, not sure I'd buy into Microsoft having so many issues internally that they wont have any games to launch with.

DragonKnight4011d ago

The fact that you couldn't see that the article was pretty fair and well thought out before you made your comment shows where your mind was and that it wouldn't matter what they said. You apparently completely missed the point.

Jek_Porkins4011d ago

Actually I didn't miss the point, I read the entire thing. I would agree that from a standpoint of Respawn Entertainment they'd take a loss from a market, but the rest was speculation over rumors.

If it hadn't mattered, I wouldn't have bothered to click on the article in the first place.

DragonKnight4011d ago

The first part of your comment attempt to discredit the article based on the name of the site. This leads people to believe one, or all, of 3 things. First, you're a fanboy. Second, you didn't read the article. Third, you read the article and didn't get it. That's all on you.

The second part of the article merely reinforced the first part of your comment and what it means. They were clear to state that these are rumours coming from a site they don't exactly hold in the best regards. They only included the rumours for the sake of discussion, not because they believe the rumours or are endorsing negative Xbox 720 rumours. The article had no bias present in it and yet your comment reeks of the implication that it does based solely on the name of the site.

JeffGUNZ4010d ago

@ Jek_Porkins.

Actually, Respawn will not lose money in the market being exclusive to MS. The amount of money MS probably threw at them will more then likely cover that loss. Plus, MS has backed COD so much that a lot of non-hardcore gamers who don't know any better would think COD is only for the xbox, since MS backs their advertising. Respawn comes from IW, they know MS is a horse that is going to bring them places.

hazardman4011d ago

I was thinking same thing it don't make sense. I mean they got the reveal date out and then said that Full launch lineup will be shown at E3.

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DragonKnight4011d ago

@jeffgoldwin: Yay, I have another fan. Seems that you have some reading problems though as I never said the author's opinion was fact (go ahead and read my comments and you won't find that at all) or that the rumours were legitimate (that's an oxymoron), and the "no bias" part is accurate. Try to find blatant Playstation fanboyism in the article and quote it, I'll wait.... none? Thought so.

And finally, I find it hilarious that you accuse me of being a fanboy despite your clear focus on me and your personal attack on me even though you got all of your facts wrong and I in no way made a positive or negative statement towards any platform.

Thanks for being a fan. Ciao.

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Evil_Ryu4011d ago

Those guys at respawn entertainment are extremely talented they were the brains behind the first modern warfare before the franchise went down the toilet.

dalibor4011d ago

That is true and people should not forget that. But you have to remember this industry is always ever changing. People jump boat and sometimes just sometimes... developers do lose their charm that made them well liked and all. Lets see what Respawn does and hopefully things turn out for the better.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere8h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN6h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos3h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

PassNextquestion8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger6h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Profchaos8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto7h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos7h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long4h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel6h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator6h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg9h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos9h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola4h ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10111d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref10d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde10d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197210d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville10d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218310d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos10d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai11d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref10d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan10d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00710d ago (Edited 10d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197211d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref10d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde10d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197210d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197210d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier10d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto10d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218310d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto10d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman10d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts10d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts9d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic10d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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