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Sony CEO and 39 other executives give up bonuses in ‘unprecedented’ gesture

The decision comes as the maker of PlayStation consoles eyes a profit after four years in the red. But its troubled electronics unit may remain mired in losses despite Hirai’s bid to drag it back to profitability.

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majiebeast4006d ago

EA could learn from this gesture.

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dedicatedtogamers4006d ago

It must be a Japanese thing. Y'know, honor in business and all that or something. Nintendo did it when the 3DS utterly failed to sell (just prior to the 3DS price cut). And now Sony is doing it.

kreate4006d ago

what about americans?

Ken224006d ago (Edited 4006d ago )

@Kreat they take your ass to court and sue you xD. Sad but true.

@jcnba Just like your comment...

dedicatedtogamers4006d ago

I didn't mean it as an insult. I'm just pointing out that it must be a Japanese thing, since I've never seen an American videogame company do something like this, and yet we have two of the biggest gaming companies - Sony and Nintendo - each doing it within an 18 month time frame.

creeping judas4006d ago

@ Kreate, as you may have known, when the American economy was collapsing and banks were failing, they were still giving bonuses to the executives. American corporate culture is such that if you show up at work, you deserve a bonus. This does also trickle down to a lot of North American business. In my position as bank manager if I don't produce the numbers, I don't get a bonus. And that is the way it should be from the bottom all the way to the top.

I commend Sony Corporations stand on not taking bonuses this year.

Soldierone4006d ago

@Kreate,

Lol, our business' will just take a bigger bonus and run just before the company collapses. That, or they will send all the jobs to China so their paychecks get bigger, then cry when all the jobless people don't buy their crappy made products.

ravinash4006d ago

Sony has had to make a lot of cut backs and a lot of people have lost their jobs because of that.
the execs are doing the right thing by not accepting the bonus as it wouldn't really be fair if they did after making so many others are out of work.

Also it shows that they care about the company and sends a good image out to all those working under them.

Mind you, you do have to remember that these guys do get paid well even without the bonus, so I think they will be OK.

Software_Lover4006d ago

During the bad parts of the recession, Chrysler CEO gave up salary for a year.

nukeitall4006d ago (Edited 4006d ago )

@Kreate:

"as you may have known, when the American economy was collapsing and banks were failing, they were still giving bonuses to the executives. American corporate culture is such that if you show up at work, you deserve a bonus."

BS!

That mantra of "if you show up for work, you deserve pay" for the most part exist in low pay jobs. Others that work hard, tend to be extremely motivated and driven by passion.

There is a reason why the US is the one country in the world that rapidly seizes market share in whatever industry there is money to be made.

Take a look at the games industry!

The fact that CEO and high ranking officials give up their bonuses, is ridiculous. They shouldn't have received it in the first place! Sony has been on a downward trend for the past 20 years or something.

Apple former CEO, Steve Jobs took $1 salary! All his income was bonuses tied to the company's performance!

"Must be an American" thing then, eh? The rest of the world is greedy?

Point being, look at things with an objective eye. Don't be fooled, these executives didn't deserve a bonus.

If they demand it, I would fire them.

@creeping judas

"@ Kreate, as you may have known, when the American economy was collapsing and banks were failing, they were still giving bonuses to the executives."

That is because these companies have scoundrel executives that keep re-appearing in our corrupt government.

These people magically downvote proposal for the better good, and then retire from the government post. Then almost always get a consulting job or something similar for lots of money. Then sometime later they re-appear in the government again, creating more mishap.

We the American people should really demand these people jailed, and get some people that want changes in.

Right now it is just a corrupt mess where rampant greed can fester.

Keep in mind that I'm not saying greed is bad, but it can be.

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Menech4006d ago

Lets hope it's enough to remove then from the red, Sony really need to start turning a profit soon. They seem to be managing in the console business, but most other sectors are in ruin.

grimmweisse4006d ago

They seem to be on the right track. Sony has doubled its full-year profit forecasts up from $201 million to $403 million. Seems that their playstation and financial arms are doing the serious business.

ZoyosJD4006d ago

I know 535 people that need to take a pay cut more than EA CEOs. *cough*congress*cough*

MiloGarret4006d ago

US congressmen probably earn 1/10 of what EA CEO's earn. At the very least they earn a lot less, and don't get any bonuses.

ZoyosJD4006d ago

@MiloGarret I know someone who was a lobbyist. Needless to say just being around that group is a lavish lifestyle.

"The most recent pay adjustment for Members of Congress was in January 2009. Since then, the
compensation for most Senators, Representatives, Delegates, and the Resident Commissioner
from Puerto Rico has been $174,000."

"Members are allowed to deduct, for income tax purposes, living expenses up to $3,000 per
annum, while away from their congressional districts or home states."

"Permissible “outside earned income” for Representatives and Senators is limited to 15% of the annual rate of basic pay for level II of the Executive Schedule."

"The Members’ Representational Allowance (MRA) is available to support Representatives in
their official and representational duties."

"The MRA is funded in the House “Salaries and Expenses” account in the annual legislative
branch appropriations bills. This account has decreased in recent years, from $660.0 million in FY2010, to $573.9 million in FY2012. Additionally, the Statement of Disbursements of the House states that the The 2012 allowances range from $1,270,129 to $1,564,613, with an average of $1,353,205."

"The MRA may be used for official expenses including, for example, staff, travel, mail, office equipment, district office rental, stationery, and other office supplies."

"The SOPOEA is funded within the “Contingent Expenses of the Senate,” account in the annual
legislative branch appropriations bills. The list of total office allowances contained in the Senate report on its version of the FY2013 legislative branch appropriations bill (S.Rept. 112-197) shows a range of $2,960,716 to $4,685,632, depending on the state.25 The average allowance is $3,209,103."

http://library.clerk.house....

That is only the "official" part.

MiloGarret4006d ago

Whether or not it is lavish depends wholly of which interests you represent, environmental or HR lobbyists for instance don't usually have the same resources as others. I should know, I've been one.

The official part is the only part. However, they do often earn other incomes by sitting in different boards or the like of other organisations. That has nothing to do with their salary as congressmen though. Bribes and so on of course occur, as well as favours, but not in the extent that the public thinks.

UnwanteDreamz4005d ago (Edited 4005d ago )

@Milo

Any idea how often they are in session? 138 to 190 days in a year. I can't believe you would defend congress. 128,000$ to do nothing but secure their future positions on a bank board. Half Goldman Sachs board members are ex politicians.

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KwietStorm_BLM4006d ago

A LOT of company execs around the globe could do something like this and benefit the whole. Its really redundant to keep dragging EA through the mud.

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4006d ago

BUT ea IS AMERICAN. SO NO THEY WON'T DO IT.

TooTall194006d ago

Why should they? Is EA reporting losses?

showtimefolks4006d ago

i am hopeful that under Kaz's leadership sony can get back to what it use to be or atleast make profit on yearly bases

Playstation brand is not the one loosing money like some comments suggesting on this article

but more companies could have learned something from this, THQ CEO gave a discount but still got bonus when his company was about to go out of business

KAZ cares about sony along with other leaders within the company

BattleTorn4006d ago

Commenters here are paising Sony, as if they did this for any other reason than being in the red for years.

This isn't a gesture. It's a survival tactic

zeddy4006d ago

i dont get bonuses anyway. surely the only incentive you need to do good in your job is your salary. why dont they just pay them bonuses at the end of the month instead of a fixed salary.

LogicStomper4006d ago

If your incentive for doing good in your job is the salary, you have a job for all the wrong reasons.

Money is just a bonus to the job. People should find jobs which they actually enjoy doing, not the ones that give them more money.

You try to live a happy life, so you would want a job that actually makes you happy. Having an unenjoyable job to get money is just a waste of life, you're doing what you don't enjoy in hopes of getting something you do.

So the incentive for doing good in your job shouldn't be the salary, it should be the drive from your passion for the work.

andibandit4006d ago

Let me just fix this story........
Sony slashes bonuses but manage to put a positive spin on it.

Bobby Kotex4006d ago

Doing things like this is more culturally aligned with Japanese executives than American. An American CEO would never do anything like this.

Gh05t4006d ago

"An American CEO would never do anything like this."

Way to make one of the most ignorant statements around...

US Airways CEO Douglas Parker
Bank of America CEO Ken Lewis
AFLAC CEO Dan Amos turned down a golden parachute

Im not saying they all do I just think its a little ignorant to assume that some people have pride and realize that if you lead a company to unprofitably you don't deserve a bonus (regardless of local).

Also many CEO take pay cuts as well some to the tune of 25% which I am sure far outweighs the measly bonus they took and lasts longer than a one time bonus refusal.

i.e.

"McGee’s total compensation for 2011 declined 25 percent to $7.94 million, from $10.6 million in 2010, Hartford, based in the Connecticut city of the same name, said today in a regulatory filing. McGee’s bonus for 2010 was $1.76 million." - Bloomberg website

And he turned down that 1.76 million bonus.

What about the last 3 years SONY was not profitable did they take the bonuses?

metalgEer4005d ago

It's funny how people argue about Kaz's decision to give up his bonus. This guy is a millionaire so even if he gives up his bonus this year it wouldn't affect his life style by a bit. Secondly, CEO's of giant companies such as Sony are not only offered cash bonuses but incentives such as shares and other sort of asset's from the company. So if the company turns a profit, they'll earn dividends on their shares. Probably he gets double of what he gave this year next year in entitilements and bonuses.

Downtown boogey4006d ago

Why EA? HOW ABOUT ACTIVISION FFS!!??

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TheLyonKing4006d ago

But then you think how much are these execs on a bonus is probably nothing to them.

kenshiro1004005d ago (Edited 4005d ago )

I agree. In fact, every company should learn from this. I hope that Sony gets back on their feet. Any company going through this crap-it's an uphill battle for them.

Syntax-Error4005d ago

It's simple mathematics. I give up my $1M bonus this 1 year for 5 more years of employment at $350K a year.

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Godmars2904006d ago

Considering what CEOs salaries have become generally especially when a company's in trouble this is surprising.

Hostess would still be around and Walmat would be better regarded if their execs weren't so greedy.

OC_MurphysLaw4006d ago

I do often wonder how the execs at some of the struggling companies are making "bonuses" when their company books show the comapany is going down the tubes. Seriously, what kind of world do we live in where we reward leaders of companies for failure?

creeping judas4006d ago

I think there are three executives from failing companies that disagree with your comment, and feel that they still deserve their bonuses.

OC_MurphysLaw4006d ago (Edited 4006d ago )

To be clear, I am talking in general terms in reference to Godmars290's comment.

@creeping judas I have no doubt that almost every executive in the world feels they deserve their bonuses. But if your company or division is failing...I just don't see how anyone should be getting bonuses. Again, not being company specific here... Bonuses should be based on success nothing more, nothing less.

Bobby Kotex4006d ago

The worst was during the beginning of the economic recession in the late 2000s. Execs were giving themselves ridiculous bonuses while their companies were losing tons of money.

Minato-Namikaze4006d ago (Edited 4006d ago )

I thought the playstation division has been making a profit, but because they are apart of the tv divsion (electronics?) it doesn't seem like it makes a profit.

Edit: Nevermind i read the title wrong.

kremit-214006d ago

Hostess is making a comeback. Minus the unions who refused to cooperate as well. But im sure the unions will be back at Hostess eventually.

Godmars2904006d ago

The unions were by the old company. Had agree to several pay cuts just to keep working only to be asked to take more, meanwhile the execs gave themselves raises.

Animal Mutha 764006d ago

This to me speaks volumes as the to state of the business and the perceived value of those who are running it.

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MaideninBlack4006d ago

Saw this story earlier today on a JP blog. Glad someone finally translated it.

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies15d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken15d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga15d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken15d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6415d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long15d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197215d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic15d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12515d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91315d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer15d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91314d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit14d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher15d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6914d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit14d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher15d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken15d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197215d ago (Edited 15d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic15d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2315d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218315d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder15d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts15d ago

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Sony May Soon Let You Decide How Much NPCs Talk In Games

Sony has patented to add multiple dialogue modes to let players switch between how many conversations with NPCs they want in the game.

blackblades21d ago

Sony is like the only ones outta the 3 that has atuff like like this pop up changing thing in ways.

just_looken21d ago

Sony in the past has always been first at bat with new ideas/tech but in the end never fully use it or just toss it away.

blackblades21d ago

I think they did use some but yeah most usually never happened but at least they thought about it. Sony seeks things like this and other, Nintendo seek different ways of playing going by there different controler designs and console designs.

just_looken21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

some of the other stuff sony want's/owns never used
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://www.eurogamer.net/s...
https://metro.co.uk/2023/03...
https://decrypt.co/114754/s...

monitor/adjust game difficultly as you play
https://www.techradar.com/g...

Sony nfts
https://www.theblock.co/pos...

Pay ai to play the game for you
https://thebusinessofesport...

Oh all the above last 12 months

I just imagine a evil scientist with test subjects when it comes down to sony recent patent reports.

Kaii21d ago

Will we get dialogue options that won't spoil puzzles in a matter of seconds? :p

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Judge rules in PlayStation's favour in $500m patent infringement lawsuit

Genuine Enabling Technology was seeking damages, claiming the tech allowing PlayStation consoles and controllers to communicate infringes its rights.

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S2Killinit23d ago

Big victory for Sony. And a long time coming.

DarXyde22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

Crazy to think the savings from this lawsuit allows them to develop one AAA game.

Make it Bloodborne 2, please and thank you.

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Profchaos23d ago

Sounds like patent trolling they tried the same thing against Nintendo with the same pattern.

Motion and control input traversing over higher and lower frequencies seperate from each other allowing the controller to do both

Pyrofire9522d ago

Patents suck. Most of them are complete garbage.

Knightofelemia22d ago

So to recoup the money Genuine is going to take on Nintendo or Microsoft next. I hate patent lawyers they are some of the worst bottom feeders out there.

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