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Iwata: Wii U hardware far more capable than most think

Nintendo’s Wii U simply needs talented developers to realise its potential, Satoru Iwata proclaiming that there’s “a great deal of contradictory information” regarding the console’s internal architecture.

“As you stated, it is a fact that some software development companies assume that Wii U is not powerful enough,” Iwata’s discussed in his response to an investor.

“On the contrary, some developers say in interviews that Wii U has a different architecture from other consoles and that, when utilised in the right way, it can perform well.

“At the moment, there is a great deal of contradictory information. Nintendo is required to make more efforts to dispel such a misconception.”

Whilst defensive of the Wii U’s potential, Iwata shared his understanding that third-parties are keen to see their commitment to the console rewarded with successful sales....

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MariaHelFutura4005d ago (Edited 4005d ago )

Nintendo (IMO) should stop talking in general and get sh!t done. The last week or two it sounds like they're trying to convince us and themselves that the platform is worth while to own. Stop talking and start producing, the talking is just making it seem worse w/ no product to back it up.

-Superman-4005d ago

Wii U will be nothing when Xbox 720 and PS4 are released.
When developers makes multiplatform game for PC, Xbox 720 and PS4, then it´s easy to do, but when they are asked to port this next gen game to Wii U, then they just can´t do this because Wii U has last gen(PS3,XBOX360) spec.

For example, you make game, you port this to PC, and then port to PS4 and Xbox 720, easy, but to Wii U? Nah, Wii U is too weak for that.

blitz06234005d ago

"Wii U hardware far more capable than most think"
Sounds more like the Vita...

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chaos-lockheart4005d ago (Edited 4005d ago )

Wii U just needs a price cut, it has some great games. Also great games that's not out yet. once Wii U becomes $199 it will start to sell. I know I will get one at that price.

fairyblaster4005d ago

(maria)

Something tells me Nintendo is and has been more busy than me and you?

and you (superschman)

step away from the cryptonite.

PigPen4005d ago

I have to totally disagree with that opinion. My opinion is that PS4 hype will die down a little. If I am as smart as I think I am Playstation will launch a tank of a console. You know "George Forman" grill type hardware with a bigger price then Wii U. Sony can't play the race with exclusives with Nintendo from little money.
With PS3 sales, and the games that's coming make me think a lot will hold off before upgrading to PS4. That goes for Microsoft nextbox too. And to think they will be going head to head for sales with Wii U taking market share too is risky. Nintendo has seven months to get word out to consumers before PS4/Nextbox release. They will have about 5 million hardwares sold to date, and in time for black friday to release bundles. And with the games that's like "Splinter Cell: Blacklist, Deus Ex: HRDC, Rayman: Legends, Call Of Duty: Ghost, Watch Dogs and ..." and the Wii U have a price cut would be tough. Exclusive for PS3 alone will be hard for some to upgrade. Sony fanboys are saying whatever to hold a dark cloud over Nintendo to keep pride in their favorite console. Ignorance is a bliss and can lead to regret. I am no hater/troll and will be getting one of the next gen systems too, as I don't see the need to own both. This is not me cause if you like Sony/Microsoft or Nintendo just be happy and play your game without trying to put someone down for their choice. Most live on here then playing their console/computer. It's good to get the latest news but come on.

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Blaze9294005d ago

Remember as kids we had this little thing called, "Show & Tell"?

Well...

MariaHelFutura4005d ago

Yep. It's not called "Tell and Show".

-Superman-4005d ago

Wii U will be same as Wii against PS3

rick1woller4005d ago

skarlett is just talking rubbish now

AKR4004d ago

@ -Superman-

~ If you TRULY believe the difference between that monumental, you need to sit down and think before you speak . . .

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GameSpawn4005d ago

Nintendo needs to tread carefully. They are almost in the same state as Sega; at the moment not exactly, but getting there. Sega failed because it put out too many consoles in a row that ultimately did not sell. The Dreamcast was just the straw that broke the camel's back.

The 3DS and Nintendo's last minute save of it along with the stupidly lucky success of the Wii is the only thing keeping them in the game right now. We can all agree that the WiiU is not doing very well right now and Nintendo cannot save it like they did the 3DS by simply dropping the price; they're barely breaking even on the console with a few games being bought along side each one.

If the WiiU ultimately does fail when the PS4 and Xbox land Nintendo CANNOT afford another console failure or handheld failure. They need to remember the Wii was a stroke of luck; they are not guaranteed to pull off the same success.

Gamer Muzz4005d ago

I have to disagree with that initial statement.
Nintendo is nowhere near "same state as Sega" After dominating the 7th gen in sales and profits and completely owning the handheld market last gen as well as 86.8% of the handheld market today, there is no chance that Nintendo is going to fall off any time soon. Definitely not this gen even if the Wii U doesn't preform as well as they would like.

You need to make sure you define "Fail". the Wii U will be profitable in no time at all and when that happens, they will sell them at a profit and even without winning the gen in terms of installed base, they will earn a profit and continue to operate without problems.
The Gamecube for example, was the lowest selling console of the 6th gen. yet it turned a profit for Nintendo. Meanwhile, the xbox sold 2 million more units than the cube...and cost Microsoft $5 billion in the end.
"Fail" is a term we really have to be careful with.

Side note:
As for the dreamcast. You know it was a record braking console right? It broke every hardware and software launch record set up to it's time. Ultimately failing because of piracy and nothing else.

GameSpawn4004d ago (Edited 4004d ago )

I never said they were in exactly the same state (only close) as Sega, but Sega's case proves that it doesn't take much.

Remember there are some parallels here between Nintendo and Sega.
1) Both are/were Game Console Makers and Game Publishers - First - Foremost - Only
2) Both due to their limited scope of products have run higher risk when they loose; they don't have other markets (like Sony and Microsoft) to fall back on
3) Both have had their share of questionable successes/failures with consoles (subjective on what you consider a failure - sales, profit, popularity, etc.)

I like how you bring up piracy as what killed the Dreamcast. Sega was already at risk with the Dreamcast because of how much R&D money they tanked in previous consoles (specifically the Saturn) and piracy obviously didn't help. The piracy kick started a series of events that led to loss of third party support and ultimate failure of the Dreamcast and Sega.

How 'bout them parallels... :)
Nintendo's WiiU is already having its bout with piracy...ahem...homebrew. It hasn't even been out a full year!
http://n4g.com/news/1243735...
(I felt it easier to link the N4G entry)

The whole reason I bring this up for discussion (I love discussion) is that Nintendo is giving us one sign of weakness after another. Possible piracy with the recent "homebrew hack", no reassurance on third party support (I mean a substantial lineup of WiiU games, 1st or 3rd party), and cancellation of their E3 press event!

I'm sorry, E3 is HUGE for the gaming community and to cancel your press event SCREAMS that Nintendo has some concerns/issues. You just don't cancel E3 or Tokyo Game Show (hopefully this doesn't happen) when you are part of the "BIG Three". Did they cancel because they have no games to show either from themselves or third parties? Did they cancel because they are having issues turning the WiiU situations above around? Only Nintendo knows why Nintendo cancelled.

Am I saying Nintendo will go "Sega" on us (hee hee - I went Wreck It Ralph with that)? No, but I do think Nintendo's concern should also be our concern, because we already lost Sega and saw how things turned out for them (really Sonic has lost all substance since going multiplatform).

If there is ANYTHING that history has taught us in general it is that "history tends to repeat itself." Humans love to repeat the same mistakes of their predecessors and all we can do to prevent that is to learn from those mistakes so that we are not doomed to repeat them.

3-4-54005d ago

They are getting it done....they made the mistake of not hiring more people and instead poached from different teams for Wii U & 3DS games....

Now it will be until Dec into 2014 before we get good Wii U games....

Nintendo will hold on....and in the end will be alright....they always are.

They do need to start thinking about their next system like now though.....so this never happens again.

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DA_SHREDDER4005d ago

They have already announced a bunch of games that are coming down the pipe line more than any other first party publisher. They are gonna be all about games this E3.

Ron_Danger4005d ago

Iwata: Wii U hardware far more capable than most think

He's talking hardware, not software.

MrChow6664005d ago

they are gonna be all about FAIL

Pyro2000x4005d ago

LOL but they won't be at E3 so most people will only care about the games coming to PS4 and Xbox 720 tbh.

Joegrine204005d ago

Well there you go folks someone that doesn't read what nintendo actually said.

beafsteak4004d ago (Edited 4004d ago )

LOL they actualy will be at E3. When will you fanboys get that through your thick skulls.

LOL_WUT4005d ago

Yeah, less talk and more follow through ;)

Godmars2904005d ago

Well, pity there's little to nothing that shows it. Someone - like say the console's makers - didn't setup ahead of time some titles to show such.

Its almost as if it was released at a certain time for short term gains with no regards or consideration towards long term goals. To exploit on holiday season rather than the life of the system and the company.

MasterCornholio4005d ago (Edited 4005d ago )

"“At the moment, there is a great deal of contradictory information. Nintendo is required to make more efforts to dispel such a misconception.”""

http://s.pro-gmedia.com/vid...

Come on Nintendo it isnt that difficult to produce a game with great visuals. Guerrilla Games managed to do it with Killzone Shadowfall so i dont see why you cant do the same. But instead Nintendo does this.

http://gamersxtreme.org/wp-...

Seriously Nintendo if the Wii U is under powered might as well come clean with your loyal fans instead of lying to them in this manner.

My recommendation is to try and stop convincing people that the Wii U is on the same level as the PS4 and the 720 and just concentrate on quality software.

"Other companies might launch a next-generation console with more power, but we don’t necessarily think that the difference between the Wii U and such console will be as drastic as what you felt it was between the Wii and the other consoles because there will be fewer and fewer differentiators in graphics."

http://www.ggsgamer.com/201...

Joegrine204005d ago

If the Wii U can output graphics like this.... http://www.abload.de/img/da... then i would love to buy a Wii U and that game is an early build still. although graphics is not a benefactor to me. This looks really good for an open world RPG. Now you guys should realize that developers like nintendo who knows how to use their technology, would use it excellent. See how sony did with the Ps3 (LAST OF US, Uncharted) and is gonna do the same with the PS4. Expect the same from nintendo do not underestimate them. You guys take them for granted to much.

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple1014d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref4d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde4d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19724d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville4d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21833d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos3d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai4d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref4d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan4d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0073d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander19724d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander19724d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref4d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde4d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19724d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19724d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier4d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto4d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21833d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto3d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman4d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts4d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts3d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic3d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel11d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger8810d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing10d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS9d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder9d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff21839d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.