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Why PSN online gameplay should remain free on Playstation 4

Bubblews: "Sony has been silent as to whether or not the PSN online gameplay should remain free for the Playstation 4. Although making gamers play a price in order to play online will no doubt help the company financially in the short term, it may also hurt them in the long run."

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Jaqen_Hghar4014d ago

It will along with cross game chat and sharing (since it's on the controller), but streaming, spectating, and taking control is going to be on + for the same $50 fee along with all the current benefits. At least that's what a man would do.

stage884014d ago

Although I agree, why do you keep talking in the third person?

Jaqen_Hghar4014d ago

A man assumes a user doesn't watch Game of Thrones or read A Song of Ice and Fire?

sikbeta4014d ago

PSN must be free first because it's Sony's bullet point and way to compete against XBL because it's not on par with MS online platform

neoMAXMLC4014d ago

@sikbeta

Lol The social aspects of the PS Vita put Xbox Live to shame.

All these XBL is still teh bestest comments make me chuckle. You're paying for an online service that a freaggin' HANDHELD can match at NO COST. The PS4 will no doubt curb stomp the current XBL to the ground

RTheRebel4014d ago

If a man keeps talking like that I will spoil the show ;)

Capt-FuzzyPants4014d ago (Edited 4014d ago )

Please don't. I don't have enough time to read through the books.

OT
I don't see why they would add a subscription. If they make enough profits off of Plus anyway. Having free service is one of the most attractive things about the PS3 compared to the 360.

Jaqen_Hghar4014d ago

do your worst! A man has already gotten up to date on the books!

KwietStorm_BLM4014d ago

Is there some intrinsic reason you post every day with this "A man.. Blah blah?"

--Onilink--4014d ago

thats how that character speaks in A Song of Ice and Fire(Game of Thrones)

M-M4014d ago

Asks why he always talks in 3rd person, replies in 3rd person lol.

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SilverFiz4014d ago

As much as I would love it to be free, I totally understand if they require payment. I doubt they can just give us all those features for free, and Xbox live has proved that people are willing to pay subscriptions.

princejb1344014d ago

xbox live has proved that SOME people are willing to pay subscriptions
i would hate to pay a subscription especially for services i wont use

but if they do decide to charge i would have no choice since xbox most likely is going to charge also

GamerzElite4014d ago (Edited 4014d ago )

Why people pay to XBL? Cause they don't have choice. I invested my money on XBox 360 and to play online i need to pay them, I wish I had another option but..... Don't wanna suggestion to buy a PC or PS3 cause I have both.

BitbyDeath4014d ago

PSN has over 90 million accounts that can access online. (inc PSVita and PSP)
http://www.develop-online.n...

XBL has 46 million as of this year and only about 20 million can play games online.

Why restrict your userbase like that?

thechosenone4014d ago

I think the last count put it at 110 million.

YodaCracker4014d ago

Yet most games have more active online communities on the 360. People are willing to pay for a better service. If Xbox LIVE Gold went free, the quality would almost certainly go down.

--Onilink--4014d ago

the whole "90 million accounts" number is and always has been biased and everyone knows that. Most people who have a PS3 have 2-3 accounts, especially with the way you could share games before

aquamala4014d ago

people have multiple psn accounts to access stores in different regions, and to game share. there's no reason to have multiple xbl accounts.

BitbyDeath4014d ago (Edited 4014d ago )

'Most people who have a PS3 have 2-3 accounts'

Most people who have a 360 have 2-3 accounts too.
What is your point?

'people have multiple psn accounts to access stores in different regions, and to game share.'

That is just not accurate. That's like saying 360 has more duplicates than PS3 due to banned accounts. Each are only a small portion of the total numbers.

'there's no reason to have multiple xbl accounts'

Family maybe? Brothers, sisters, wives, husbands, kids? Same reason as having multiple accounts on a PS3.

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kma2k4014d ago

As long as i can still play single player games & access my netflix & mlb.tv without having to pay a fee ill be happy. The reason i resent live (yes i own a 360) is because i refuse to pay for this.

yesmynameissumo4014d ago

I really think online gaming will remain free, but they'll off things like streaming, etc. for a subscription.

Jaqen_Hghar4014d ago

exactly what a man said therefore have an "intelligent" bubble.

TheUndertaker854014d ago

Probably linked to the next gen Plus system. Why not though? Streaming so much through the system will obviously up the network usage for Sony. In turn things like no downloads and instant gameplay seems more like a perk to me.

Online gaming, services like Netflix, Vudu, Hulu, Amazon, and MLB.tv, and the general network will most likely stay free as rather people like it or not it is a huge advantage for Sony, particularly if they market these factors over Xbox Live. Most people don't like having to pay for their Netflix service & ISP just to be told they have to pay again to use their own ISP & Netflix access. Cross game chat will probably also be free on PS4 since it's already free to use by Vita owners.

Things like instant streaming without a need to download will probably be linked to Plus since it'll be an additional perk of the system. Plus not everybody in the world will be ready to instantly stream in games due to bandwidth caps from ISPs and the fact that not everywhere in the world has higher end networking in place.

To go out on a limb though I could see Sony extending their current cloud save service to non-Plus members, just with a smaller storage space compared to what Plus members have. I'd even wager if they did, they'd sell extended storage space separately so users with bigger needs could get more storage.

stuna14014d ago (Edited 4014d ago )

The way I see it Sony will keep psn free to combat Microsft backwards compatibility !

While psn will still be free with the expected ps+ subscription for those who want a little more meat on their bone.

On the other hand Microsoft will probably offer backward compatibility, you'll still be require to purchase Xbox Live to even access the multiplayer portion of any games old or new.

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How to recruit Lam in Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes

Lam is among the 120 characters available for recruitment in Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes. While she is one of the many straightforward recruits, a known bug may prevent players from recruiting her if certain conditions are met. Despite developers’ assurances of fixing the bug, some early access players still encounter issues with recruiting Lam despite attempting the standard method.

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Tomb Raider Remastered just quietly censored one in-game detail

Tomb Raider 1-3 Remastered players are ticked off by the game’s most recent patch, which censors in-game pin-up posters of Lara Croft.

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rlow18h ago

This is why gaming is screwed. When people change things to fit someone’s agenda, it’s a slippery slope downhill.

Christopher7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Even if that agenda is of the developer? Way to remove developer rights.

***One player called it a “huge problem with modern games,” saying they can now be “ruined AFTER people buy them”.***

The level of drama. Yes, I recall sitting there for more hours than I did anything else in the game. These two pinups are the core of the game, after all!

coolbeans6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

rlow1's cringe catastrophizing aside, I do think developers *ought* to strive to maintain an original work to the best of their ability. The language of a "remaster" tacitly implies that - for good or ill - what's being resold is what fans remember but better.

Profchaos6h ago

Games can be ruined after purchasing them yeah we know this not from this but from GTA IV which had half it's radio content patched out due to licensing expirations and to me that was a huge deal.

This pin up poster is a bit of nonsense but the whole argument of modern games can be ruined post launch is Absol true.

DedicatedDark5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

It's not their work to censor. They are incharge of restoration & remastering the work, not overwriting it.

Barlos3h ago

It's not the agenda of the developer though, they're pandering and trying to increase their ESG score.

Way to support censorship...

victorMaje3h ago

It’s not the end of the world for sure, but I understand the hate towards this kind of change. I believe it’s also a matter of principle.

Imagine a Picasso painting being restored & the restorer deciding there aren’t enough strokes, or some lines aren’t straight enough or curved enough…not sure it would/should sit well with people.

Have all original devs signed off on this change? Even if it’s the case, are we saying older gamers are better mentally equipped to process what was there than current gamers, hence the change?

Enough time ago the case was made that games are an art form. We’re supposed to have won that case.
So which is it? Are games art or not?

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Eidolon4h ago

Hasn't this been happened for over a decade since remasters? I can't see that it's any worse now. Maybe if Sweet Baby starts getting their hands on remasters we will definitely have a problem.

Rebel_Scum6h ago

tbh I dont see something like this as censorship. Does anyone else not find it strange for someone to stick pin ups of themsleves in a locker room?

Now of it was a pin up of some half naked firefighters it might make sense as Lara might like that, and if they removed that I would cry censorship. But removing pin ups of the main character, yeah I get it.

Barlos3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

It's a game, and they were placed there for the audience. It's not real life. If it was, she wouldn't have fought a T-Rex now would she?

Yes, it's censorship but it's a bit less in your face. If they were in the original game, then they should have been in the remasters. It's bad enough that they have that ridiculous unnecessary warning at the start, but then they start removing things post launch. I don't care how small the change, they shouldn't be doing it. It's nothing but ESG pandering but in a subtle way.

Rebel_Scum2h ago

Look bro, if you have pictures of yourself naked on a bear skin rug up in your house let me tell you, its not normal.

jambola1h ago

I wasn't aware censorship was based on what made sense to you

Rebel_Scum1h ago

Likewise, what a stupid comment.

jambola1h ago

I agree
Your comment was pretty stupid

Rebel_Scum31m ago

I never said censorship is based on what I say dumbass. Just because I dont see this as censorship doesnt mean I’m saying others cant.

How about you come at me with your opinion rather than snarky comments with no thought on the matter.

SimpleDad3h ago

By the year 2030, this remaster collection will totally be changed and censored. Probably will remove Lara as a playable character. It's ridiculous. Glad that my family didn't buy this.
I still have Tomb Raider 2 PS1 as a memory.

jambola1h ago

Those shorts are a little revealing
Should probably make them snow pants

Barlos1h ago

They'll probably make her trans

CobraKai3h ago

It’s mentioned in the article, and it’s a point i 100% agree with, it’s the fact that they can censor a game after you buy it. That’s total bullshit.

Killer2020UK2h ago

Whilst it's an overreaction to say this has "ruined" the game, it's still problematic that this has happened post launch and for many, post-purchase.

I don't want someone to change a product for the worse after I've bought it. The same goes for implementing micro transactions after reviews.

I wonder why they did this? Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

maykhausonninh2h ago

Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

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Final Fantasy III Pixel Remaster Review – You Are Your Job, Apparently

Gary Green said: In a time where an enhanced, 3D remake of Final Fantasy III already exists, it’s hard to argue that Final Fantasy III Pixel Remaster is the definitive version we were expecting. With Final Fantasy III already being the last in the series to be translated and make its way west, this is something of a slap in the face for the fans. Still, let’s not be disheartened. There may be many shortfalls in this edition of Final Fantasy III, however there’s no denying that this classic JRPG still holds some nostalgic value, even if it struggles to break away from its original hardware limitations.

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FACTUAL evidence8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

It’s funny I’m seeing these articles about pixel remaster, and I just platinumed 1-4 within 8 days lol. I’ve been on FF5 for about a week now. Let’s just say 5 was the start of FF having content like crazy. I should have the plat within 2-3 days.