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Ability of Playstation 4 Equivalent High-End PC

Developer of The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt spoke about the PlayStation 4 (PS4) that will be launched this year. He said that the PlayStation 4 is a Personal Computer (PC) in the high-end class.

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RyuCloudStrife4012d ago (Edited 4012d ago )

Yes, and I believe it'll stay there for 1-2 1/2 years because of OPTIMIZATION.

Do you PC gamers know what that means?

@ CGI-QUALITY

Yeah that's exactly how the PS4's graphics will be CGI, Deep Down says *HI*.

CGI-Quality4012d ago

Why take a dig @ PC gamers? This is why they talk about console-only people to begin with, because of nonsense like that.

CommonSenseGamer4012d ago

You know, I recall it was said the PS3 was capable of Pixar quality visuals....

I'm not doubting the capability of the PS4 but just like every piece of tech, its outdated as soon as it hits the shelves.

forum674012d ago (Edited 4012d ago )

what do you mean by "you PC gamers" ? o.0

MadLad4012d ago (Edited 4012d ago )

Another console fan lapping up the pandering most game journalism takes to.
Buy yes, PS4 is absolutely on the level of a high-end gaming pc.
Really.
No sarcasm here.

PS4 iz soooo BEAST!

decrypt4012d ago (Edited 4012d ago )

High end PCs.. Run games far above 30fps period.

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T9004012d ago (Edited 4012d ago )

@Kratos_Kills

He is a Sony Rep so obviously will talk down PCs, its common sense.

I believe in benchmarked evidence on what really is the real deal. Hard OCP did an article on PCIe 2.0 VS 3.0.

It was observed never mind the 3.0 standard (which is quite new), even the 2.0 is no where near being a bottle neck.

Hard OCP had 3x GTX 680 in TRI sli and 3X HD 7970 in crossfire to prove this point.

http://www.hardocp.com/arti...

If PCIe was such a bottlneck we wouldnt see a benefit of higher performance GPUs on the PC, performance would just stagnate because of the bottle neck. AMD and Nvidia would be running behind increasing the PCIe spec.

Even then if Mark Cerny feels like PCIe is a bottleneck which benchmarks prove it isnt, why doesnt he discuss PS4 bottlenecks?

1. GDDR 5 RAM used with CPU (GDDR5 is high latency RAM), CPUs dont do well with high Latency.

2. The CPU is a tablet CPU, which is probably the reason why the games are running at 30fps.

3. The GPU is a mobile GPU, its hardly mid range as of today. Probably a reason why BF 4 is said to be 720p.

So why not bring up PS4 bottlenecks before bringing up PC bottlecnecks which according to benchmarks dont even exist. Until mark cant show us benchmarks showing this limitation, we will have to take Hardocps word on it.

cayleee4012d ago

@decrypt

Everyone has their own definition of High end. For Sony apparently 30fps is high end.

Since their standards are low its no surprise they think PS4 is high end.

nveenio4011d ago

Let's just wait for side-by-side comparisons.

Oh wait...you can't do that with exclusives.

And I think the point here is that PS4 games are going to look and play awesomely, and you won't feel left out if you aren't playing on PC.

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ATi_Elite4012d ago (Edited 4012d ago )

"OMG Not another ATi_Elite Post I hate this guy" LOL

1. @ The Science Guy: YES I know what Optimization means cause Nvidia and AMD release Driver updates CONSTANTLY that improves the performance of New and OLD Games.

Besides Optimization can only get you X amount of Performance improvement but over all you still need RAW Power to achieve 1080p 60fps on Ultra.

2. Ability of Playstation 4 Equivalent High-End PC:

FALSE!!! A High end PC can Game at 1080p, Stream at 720p, SKype, Web Browse, Do your Taxes, and Burn a DVD/CD all at the same time.

Now a PS4 is capable of 1080p Gaming, they have a Streaming service although no Resolution has been stated and I'm sure it will come with a web browser but other than that, that's it.

PC's Do more than just play Games. So Why do people try to just Limit PC's to Gaming ONLY machines when they are Multi-tasking Computers. Gaming is only ONE part of what a High End PC does.

3. "Graphics are NOT everything blah blah blah" = Typical Fanboy reply after I start talking about 1600p @ 60 fps on Ultra.

Yeh I'm tired of talking about Graphics too cause I wanna see some Console Games with Huge Open worlds, more Gameplay Genres, and BETTER NPC A.I.

4. Now Gaming wise Yes I would AGREE a PS4 is CLOSE to a High End PC if the PC's ONLY function was to Game.

The PS4 is gonna do some wonderful things. Take Knack for example, that Game looks AWESOME graphically and gameplay wise and I'm 100% sure this is only the tip of a lot of gaming innovation on consoles.

5. I realize Sony/MS Marketing departments gotta do what they gotta do to get the Fanboys HYPED up to shell out $500 dollars on a new system that has NO BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY but this PS4/X720 vs. PC debate is STUPID...........

Especially since PC's do more than just play Games which is the main point of my Post.

People trying to Pigeon Hole the PC into just being a Game ONLY Machine and NOT taking account of all the things a PC does very well all at once just doesn't sit right with me.

Kanzes4012d ago

PS4 can stream a 4K movies

yess4012d ago

Calm down and go play some Minecraft or something.

FanMan4012d ago

Why do I get the feeling that you spend more time bashing consoles and jerking off to pcs than actually playing games on pc?

BitbyDeath4012d ago

Pretty sure devs who have hands on experience have a bit more knowledge than you ATi.

ShinMaster4012d ago

Every time a developer (who's had actual experience and knowledge of a console) says something positive about certain consoles, you
PC "elites" get insecure. Always trying to prove something.

Nvidia doesn't develop games. Updating drivers doesn't even compare with console optimization. PC games have to be able to run on a wide range of systems.
Comparing console specs with PC specs is also pointless. You can call consoles "low-end" all you want, but at the end of the day, the PS3 version of games like Tomb Raider look as good as the PC version on medium-high settings. If they can squeeze Crysis 3 into consoles with ~512mb of ram, they'll be able to do a lot more with 8GBs.
Specs aren't everything, when games look and play the same.

""PC's do more than just play Games""
You're preaching to the choir. We all know that. Almost everyone has a computer. People just choose not to play games on them.
I don't know why that's so hard to understand.

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Fishy Fingers4012d ago

Console guys bashing PC guys. PC guys bashing console guys... Who wins? No one, you all look like douchbags.

It gets boring to reading in every single thread.

MrDead4011d ago (Edited 4011d ago )

PC can do this PS4 can do that blah, blah, blah.... None of you deserve to play on any platform, you are all as sad as each other.

I think I hate all of you, and you will not be getting an invite to my birthday party... which will have a bouncy castle..... and the Playboy bunny petting zoo.

ATi_Elite4008d ago

Penthouse is way better.

no comment on bouncy castle

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Majin-vegeta4012d ago

Idk if this has been confirmed yet or not.Are we allowed to use external hard drives??

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The 7 Best Western RPGs: Immersive Adventures

RPGs are often huge, sprawling endeavours. With limited playtime, we have to choose wisely, so here's the best western RPGs available today.

SimpleSlave13d ago

"I started playing games yesterday" the List... Meh!

How about a few RPGs that deserve some love instead?
1 - Alpha Protocol - Now on GOG
2 - else Heart.Break()
3 - Shadowrun Trilogy
4 - Wasteland 2
5 - UnderRail
6 - Tyranny
7 - Torment: Tides of Numenera

And for a bonus game that flew under the radar:
8 - Banishers: Ghosts of New Eden

DustMan13d ago

Loved Alpha Protocol in all it's glorious jank. Great game.

SimpleSlave13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Not only glorious jank, but the idea that the story can completely change depending on what you do, or say, or side with, makes it one of the most forward thinking games ever. The amount of story permutation is the equivalent of a Hitman level but in Story Form. And it wasn't just that the story changed, no, it was that you met completely new characters, or missed them, depending on your choices. Made Mass Effect feel static in comparison.

Alpha Protocol was absolutely glorious, indeed. And it was, and still is, more Next Gen than most anything out there these days. In this regard at least.

Pity.

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All the Essential Video Games Everyone Needs To Play At Least Once

Given the medium's wild diversity, this primer of the essential video games everyone should try is a good place to start.

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thorstein37d ago

.... from the 2000s (mostly).

shinoff218337d ago

I can't fk with this list. They missed on alot of games probably before the writers times. Also I know people loved some portal but I was never a fan.

Cacabunga37d ago

Tomb Raider 1
Driver 1
Abe’s Odyssey
FF6
King of Fighters 94
Mortal Kombat OG
LINK 2 the past
Street Fighter 2
Resident Evil 1

Inverno37d ago

Infinite but not the first two games? Witcher 3 but not the first two games?? GTA V but not literally any of the games before it??? Portal 2 but not the first? Also if you're going to play Shadow of The Colossus play the remaster and not the remake. Can't say I disagree with the list but my man it's all over the place.

Name Last Name37d ago

I mean some sequels are objectively better and you don’t need to play the whole series.

Inverno37d ago

But most of these games have a story to follow, sure you can catch up with a YouTube vid but where's the fun in that?

LucasRuinedChildhood37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

A list like this isn't telling you not to play the previous games if you want to. It's just giving you legendary games to play.

But tbh, you don't always have to force yourself to play every entry in a franchise to get to the better ones.

- The vast majority of Witcher 3 players never played the first 2 and had a great time. The first 2 games aren't in the same league.
- The GTA games are self-contained with the odd fun reference. You can easily jump into any of them.
- The Shadow Of The Colossus remake looks and controls better than the original (plus it has a 60fps option while the remaster is just 30fps). New players will enjoy it more.
- Portal 2 is a lot better than Portal 1 and takes the concept much further gameplay-wise. Storywise, Portal 1 is fairly light too. Not that you shouldn't play it but realistically ... you'd love Portal 2 whether you play it or not (at lot of Portal 2 players have never played 1).

Bioshock 1 is the only one I agree with you on simply because it's one the best games of all time and arguably better than Infinite. No other setting like Rapture.

Looking at the list, I'd recommend playing Uncharted 1 before 2 but no doubt, 2 is the legendary one you have to play.

Inverno37d ago

I get it, but that's just my opinion on his opinion. I just think that before you play a sequel you should still play what came before it. Maybe it's just me but i find it fascinating playing through the first game in a series and seeing how it has evolved through its sequels. Like I said I don't disagree with the list, other than SoTC which I strongly believe the remaster of the original should be played above the remake.

AuraAbjure36d ago

Awesome list! Hot take on Fear (and it's hard af expansion Persaus Mandate!) Bioshock Infinite is stellar, so is the Witcher 3 and you nailed it by having Ocarina of Time. So many fantastic games! Gotta play 'em all! Next one on my list is Prey after I beat Dead Space 2 and Splinter Cell Conviction.

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The Best Video Game Romances of All Time

Wealth of Geeks explores some of the best gaming romances that have stolen our hearts over the years.

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