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PC Innovation Lags: Consoles Set to Evolve Once More

BigBoxGaming-"Last I checked there was no governing body over the PC gaming community, let alone a spokesperson that could speak the mind for the industry as a whole. However, that hasn’t stopped the concerted effort of the vocal PC gaming participants from trying to pick a fight with consoles makers, and their fans, on the eve of this upcoming generation.

But no matter how much Nvidia executives or PC websites yell about hardware strength, it won’t change the quality gaming experience consoles offer and the relative stagnancy of their own platform."

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happyguy2714020d ago

Sums it up pretty well, people get too worked up about the Console/Platform Wars.

I enjoy gaming in general, and am excited to see what the next console generation brings.

E3 please

T9004020d ago

The author is a console fanboy at best. Specially with some of his points calling PC stagnant. When its the consoles themselves that have been stagnant for the last 8 years.

_LarZen_4020d ago

I am a PC gamer and I think PC gaming has stagnated. The developers are not pushing the limits as much as one would think with the hardware that is out today.

papashango4020d ago (Edited 4020d ago )

by limits do you mean graphics?

It's on the pc where gaming is continuing to evolve.

From Free2Play, to MOBA's, Mincecraft, DayZ. Each one bringing something unique to gaming.

Consoles at the moment are focused on multiplayer'ing everything and most Sony exclusives are just about the single player campaign. The only exception being little big planet which is just a platformer with modding capabilities. Which is nothing new to pc really.

Also. Occulus Rift.

T9004020d ago

@papashango

Agreed. All consoles are doing these days is same old rince and repeat. Shooters upon shooters and linear 8 hours campaigns.

Nothing new or innovative, next gen looks to do more of the same just shinier graphics.

With PC you are getting real innovation, different games. I am personally hooked on Dota 2 with over 600 hours on the game and its not even out yet lol.

caleb47794020d ago

They are talking about the features of the platform, not the games themselves.

In those terms consoles have been adding more and more each release, and even as PC fan I have to admit that upgrading graphics is all we seem to care about.

The Oculus Rift mentioned is the type of improvements PC gaming needs, but even that will get bought out or taken multiplatform within 2 years IMO.

CheexInk4019d ago

@caleb
Except the only advances consoles have made were incorporating things the PC already had. The only thing "new" they tried was motion control which for the most part ended up remaining gimmicky and only used in casual novelty games.

Meanwhile in the same time-spam PC pioneered digital distribution, the F2P model and still has entire genres that consoles don't even see.

d3nworth14019d ago

You obviously haven't been paying any attention for the past 8 years. Lets take the Ps3 for example. It has more functionality now than it did at launch. Both Sony and Microsoft have been adding features and functions to their consoles. I would call that evolving while PC do the same thing they've been doing for years only faster. The author is clearly talking about home entertainment so yes PC are lagging behind consoles in that regard. Yes a PC can do everything a console can but 9 times out of 10 its easier to do on a console. You watch netflix on PC but last year more people used the ps3 for netflix than the PC. Accept the fact a console ease of use will continue to drive its innovation.

CheexInk4019d ago

You just said a whole lot of nothing.

" Lets take the Ps3 for example. It has more functionality now than it did at launch. Both Sony and Microsoft have been adding features and functions to their consoles."

Like what? And make sure they are features and functions you can't find on PC otherwise it goes under my statement of them just adding things PC already had. And your Netflix argument? Just another example. A streaming service that started on PC and was adopted by consoles.

"Accept the fact a console ease of use will continue to drive its innovation."

What does that even mean? You just tied together two unrelated ideas to try and have a snazzy finisher.

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gabescow4020d ago

I agree, consoles and PCs will likely be the same thing in 10 to 15 years.

happyguy2714020d ago

Although consoles will keep becoming more and more similar to PCs, there will always be a group of people who want to customize their gaming rig.

To my knowledge, console manufacturers need a common infrastructure to license games so a complete "merge" is unlikely.

Gimmemorebubblez4020d ago (Edited 4020d ago )

PC gaming will always be defined by upgradeable hardware.

caleb47794020d ago

There are just some games that work better with a mouse and keyboard, I know a few consoles have allowed those as input devices but until they become widely supported, PCs will always get a few games consoles don't. Also the modding community would be hard to incorporate for consoles, manufacturers want too much control over how much access we have to their machines.

BitbyDeath4020d ago

Yep, RTS and Sim games always feel more natural with a mouse and keyboard.

DudeJets4020d ago

Rts, rpg, mmo, fps. For kb/mouse

Third person shooters, and platform games controller hands down. Why can't console companies just allow kb/m

Oschino19074020d ago (Edited 4020d ago )

I agree, growing up playing a lot of C&C on PC in the 90's and early 00's makes it immpossible to play with a controller as it just doesn't keep up. Ever since touchscreen has become reliable and accurate though I can't help but dream of the day we have a C&C game on a touch screen device.

@DudeJets it's on the game devs, they have the choice. PS3 has a lot of commands and control through KB/M but its up to the devs to move it to the games as well. Same with custom soundtracks, Sony allows any game maker to include it but many don't.

I have played the game types you describe with both methods and have to say outside of RTS I prefer a controller. RPG which I enjoy (more action oriented) and FPS just feel boring IMO clicking away at the screen. MMO can go either way depending on game, with Defiance I think controller wins hands down but it is also a TPS.

LOL all I know is when my cousin is here playin his MMOs like Guild Wars 2 all I hear is click, click, click, click, (crap talk), click, click, click. Every now and then he hops on Planet Side 2 and I can't help but wish it/he had a controller option for it. I guess I am just to used to the layout and rumble functions of a DualShock but KB/M can feel sorta lifeless with some games.

d3nworth14019d ago

@DudeJets

Well I don't know about Xbox but I know both the Ps2 and Ps3 support mouse and keyboard just not many games used it. Quite a few online games on Ps2 allowed you to use a usb keyboard FF7 dirge of Cerberus had let you use a mouse a keyboard to play the game and Unreal tournament 3 on Ps3 also did. It even allowed you to import mods.

Ravenor4020d ago

I agree that consoles offer a great experience with minimal issues and technical knowledge. They are a great alternative to PC"s if you just want to play some games.

But don't st there and tell me PC's have stagnated, that's weapons grade Bolonium.

allgamespc20124020d ago

its all good. we have our games and they have their own. and then we have multiplatforms. we have a little bit of everything for everyone.

i enjoy dota 2 as much as i will enjoy wind waker HD, a ps4 eexclusive and a 720 exclusive. wh fight over stupid crap like this when we all have more than enough to play

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It's time to admit that Microsoft was right about the Xbox Series S — here's why

8K UUHD with path tracing at 5000 FPS is great, but what if you only have $300?

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darthv72164d ago

So the BG3 guys found an optimization for all other platforms by way of the little engine that could... interesting.

1Victor164d ago

Read the article headline and think “this sound like a Microsoft own site “ click on it read windowscentral and almost spayed my boss with water 🤣
Now about the article I’m not going to read it🤷🏿

Eonjay164d ago

"[...]but what if you only have $300?"

Apparently you would have to keep saving money. LOL no seriously. The console they show for this article cost $350. The irony...

darthv72164d ago

I didnt know you could spay using water. That's such a common procedure so maybe they can now?

But why your boss though?

Cacabunga164d ago

A mid-mid-gen upgrade will never be called a new gen console, no matter how you put it or how many excuses you try to make up.
In this case why bother cause they could have started with XSX, which was out only 1 or 2 years..

We need proper experiences worthy of new gen of consoles. XSS is a laughable attempt..

CrashMania163d ago

Jez Cordon is a big Microsoft shill and winowscentral is super MS biased.

Babadook7163d ago

“this sound like a Microsoft own site “

Bwahaha. This.

Binarycode163d ago

I bet that's what you say too all the guys.

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SICKINDIVIDUAL163d ago

Y'all can add Lords of the fallen to the list of titles that PS5 outperforms series x.

Babadook7163d ago (Edited 163d ago )

Yup. Way too much advanced asset management for the Xbox to handle with that one.

crazyCoconuts164d ago

The typical "it's holding us back" argument aside, from a sales perspective, the S is selling way more than the X (wasn't it like 75% of total?), so you could make the case that if it wasn't for the S, Xbox would have like 25% of the sales they have now...

sagapo164d ago

Not necessarily. If the S wasn’t there, maybe the X would have sold more units as there was no option?
In the end it’s anybody’s guess with the “if’s” and “but’s” imo.

BillyCrystals163d ago

Crazy that they're only around 5 million Series Xs out there compared to PS5's 40 million.

StarkR3ality163d ago

Xbox has shown they couldn't give a shit about hardware, which is a shame and one of the reasons I feel like if you own a PC there is 0 point in having an Xbox. They want game pass on everyone's phone, PC, TV, fridge, you name it. They are a software company first and foremost.

Eventually the end goal will be game pass on Playstation and they can sack off consoles altogether, whether Sony would be up for that, highly doubt it, but that's their end game in my opinion.

tay8701163d ago (Edited 163d ago )

Yah highly doubt playstation would ever allow that. It's like Mcdonalds allowing their big macs to be sold at burger king. Kind of like their intent to buy nintendo, nice thought but never going to happen.

LifesChoice163d ago (Edited 163d ago )

Exactly why i didn't get a series console, it was time for a new pc i just needed a reason to bite the bullet. Im always putting off buying a new pc and just upgrade and upgrade but it was time and GPU came with gamepass so win win i guess. I was going to get a series x but ps5 seemed like a better option when i considered my pc.
I seriously doubt we will see gamepass on PS5. Things have been getting crazy lately so its not a definite but i just cant compute Sony going along with the idea.

StarkR3ality163d ago (Edited 163d ago )

I personally think CoD is the start.. they'll buy up IP to back Sony into a corner and give them no choice. Want Call of duty and Elder scrolls on your platform? Along side Halo, gears Forza and all the other shit tonne of IP we own? Brill, we will leave the console business, but you put game pass on Playstation like you've done with EA play.

Makes perfect business sense to me. I wouldn't want that to happen, I'd rather they focus on making games that compete with Sony, but Phil already said they will never outsell Sony, similar to how they'll never outsell Apple when it comes to hardware. They'll go down the windows route and get all of their software on any available platform. Steam Deck, playstation, switch 2, whatever.

Mark my words that shits coming.

shadowT164d ago

they may should stop selling the Xbox Series X then

GamerRN164d ago

Nothing wrong with giving people options...

Crows90163d ago

From now on then that's what I'll see it as...just an option.

In other words ..all mainline PS5 consoles are much more powerful than the mainline Xbox series console...

So yet again PlayStation holds the most powerful console and gamer share.

GamerRN163d ago

Wait, how does that make PS5 more powerful than Series X? Please explain that logic?

I have both systems, but that makes zero sense

attilayavuzer163d ago

@GamerRN

No point trying to reason with fanboy logic. By extension, they're implying that the Switch was the most powerful console last gen.

maniacmayhem164d ago

This is what happens when you have people jumping the gun for some quick doom and gloom headlines. Not to mention getting opinions from devs that were possibly frustrated that they would have to do some extra tinkering for the S. And to an extent, rightly so. But the optimization and trades are there to make a game play on the S. It's a budget console and it should be treated as such.

But I have to laugh at the rest of the crowd who actually told people that the S was holding back this gen and pretended to be shocked that the S wouldn't have the bells and whistles that the X or PS5 would.

It's almost as if they were reaching, hard.

Angyobangyo164d ago

You're reaching hard thinking the S isn't holding this gen back.

Sephiroushin164d ago

S is holding back this gen period

attilayavuzer163d ago

Then why aren't Sony exclusives doing anything notable this gen?

Sephiroushin163d ago

@attilayavuzer
they look a lot better while having a weaker console than the X, that alone should tell you everything

IRetrouk164d ago (Edited 164d ago )

Did you forget the original pr blurbs for the s? What about the original announce video that ms then privated after launch? You know ms over promised on the s and it has caused problems, too many devs have claimed it for it to be a lie.

https://youtu.be/u6ftY7t8bJ...

"This means that the xbox series s delivers the same next gen experiance and features as series x, just at a reduced resolution"

InUrFoxHole163d ago

All you need is a handful of games to do that for the statement to be true. It's like sony putting 8k on their box.

Charlieboy333163d ago

@Hole "All you need is a handful of games to do that for the statement to be true". Bullshit....it should ve EVERY game because that's what was promised.

IRetrouk163d ago

Seriously fox? How many times have we seen the series s version with more than just a resolution cut? Almost every single release has way more than that done to it.

Isn't 8k printed on the xbox chip and it's box? hasn't had a single 8k piece of content though has it? So it's more like that, no 🤔

anast164d ago

The S means there will never be a current gen. game built specifically for the SX. Most devs and publishers don't have the talent to optimize like BG3.

BTW, I only game at 30,000 fps...This article is a stupid take. The only thing good about the S is that it kept MSXbox way below 2nd place.

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2023 Has Been The Best Year For Games In Two Decades

We already know 2023 has been a banger year for video games, but we now have the stats to back it up.

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phoenixwing173d ago

author could have mentioned final fantasy 16 but instead mentions hi fi rush as a below 90 game that's decent. although i agree with the main sentiment that the industry is volatile and there are a lot of layoffs. The author of this article only talks about recent events when it suits him or her.

shinoff2183173d ago

Completely disagree. Tbh the best game of the year comes out tomorrow. Star ocean 2 remake, to this day one of the best jrpg, and the best space rpg

isarai173d ago (Edited 173d ago )

Nah, 2007-2008 was legendary, but it's been a pretty good year. I'm hoping for good announcements too at the VGAs

ChasterMies172d ago

There is a generation of low paid game “journalists” that weren’t cognizant of the gaming industry in 2007-2008.

H9173d ago

2017 is unbeatable in my opinion

Guitardr85173d ago

I promise I'm not TRYING to.be contrarion with this comment bit I bought FF16 and couldn't finish it. To me the story seemed boring compared to classic FFs and seemed as though it was more interested in being a game of thrones clone than a true final fantasy. Just my opinion.

phoenixwing173d ago

Would you say the same thing about ff12?

Flewid638172d ago

Interesting. I've played/tried every FF and its the only one since 7 with a good story to me, mainly because its finally devoid of any weaby cheesy dialogue.

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Microsoft's purchase of Activision Blizzard approved in another country

Chile regulator Fiscalía Nacional Económica (FNE) approved Microsoft's purchase of Activision Blizzard on Thursday. In the press release, the regulator explained that with other big third-party companies such as Electronic Arts, Epic Games, Ubisoft, and others, there was still plentiful competition.

"As other responsible regulators review the facts, we expect more approvals like this one," said Lulu Cheng Meservey, EVP of corporate affairs at Activision Blizzard.

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blackblades480d ago (Edited 480d ago )

So what, they gotta get approved from every country just to aquire them. US, EU what matters right

Profchaos479d ago (Edited 479d ago )

Every country that both parties are a trading entity in failing the approval they need to remain seperate entities in that country or pull out which means they would likely require a new distributor in that country like another publisher best example I can think of is how Capcom publish some Rockstar games titles in Japan like the GTA games after localisation. In most cases it's not drawn out or public like this.

Sonic1881479d ago

I'm curious about EU. Will they approve it🤔

343_Guilty_Spark479d ago

EU will approve... FTC has a terrible case

zarbor479d ago

They have no real case. Just a bunch of EU folks paid off by Sony.

Extermin8or3_479d ago

EU may not approve it. FTC case isn't as strong as it could be. There are better arguments they could have made for sure.

blacktiger479d ago

it's true, every country could approve but once US disapprove, everything becomes rejected. or cancelled.

agnosticgamer479d ago (Edited 479d ago )

I think a certain number of countries (FTC) equivalents have to approve the deal. I think it's like 16 of them. However, lawsuits like the one the FTC launched can kill the bid I believe no matter how many countries pass it. The more approvals the deal gets I would say makes the lawsuit weaker.

https://seekingalpha.com/ar...
"The acquisition needs antitrust approval from 16 countries."... from the source above.

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roadkillers479d ago

Sony is the only games creator against this, Nintendo and Steam are onboard…

BrainSyphoned479d ago

Yes the place where MS sells their game on PC doesn't care as well as the place CoD doesn't belong.... Also, Steam develops about as many games as Xbox so I'd hardly call them "games creator"

HardKnockKid24479d ago

What do you mean “doesn’t belong”? Switch is the only ‘mobile console’ so to speak, why should I not be able to play COD on my switch? 🤔

S2Killinit479d ago

Sony and any gamer who realizes where this leads should be against this sort of conduct.

roadkillers479d ago

Where does this lead? The fact is you nor I know where this could lead. It could…

1. Lead to Activision being more Microtransaction heavy based on the fact that all games will be on Gamepass

2. Lead to Activision classics and standards to have more development time and be of higher quality

3. Lead to more low quality games and us being beta testers

The fact is you do not know and neither does Sony. Gamers in general seem to not care or be on board for this. I for one, would love to not pay $70 a year for CoD if I can get it on Gamepass. Not to mention all the great Blizzard games I can play on my crummy pc via Xcloud. As of right now, I don’t see anything but positives with this… not to mention to Sony owners, this would lead to more synergy between Microsoft and Sony. I would love for Microsoft to leave the console space and just live off of their GamePass app on my PlayStation in the future. Best of both worlds

S2Killinit479d ago

@riadkillers
We DO know where it leads! Please read my comment below.

dcbronco479d ago

Sony should have realized where this was headed when they failed to give Microsoft any respect. So many Sony fans put Microsoft down no matter what. That led to game exclusivity for Sony and lower sales for Microsoft. It was completely predictable that Microsoft would eventually start buying companies once they got ceo support.

S2Killinit479d ago (Edited 479d ago )

And then there is the idiot comment above. He wanted respect for some reason. And this is what we are up against people. A bunch of ego hurt MS fans going along with MS buying up multiplayer games so that they can talk about what they have exclusives wise. Nevermind that they would have had the same games even if MS hadnt bought Activision.

JackBNimble479d ago

S2killinit
You know Jackshit where this leads.
You're anti-anything-MS , your bias shows.

Sony and their minions seem to be worried that MS might get an edge in the market with this deal.

darksky479d ago

It will lead to permanent GAAS as Microsoft ultimately wants. They tried with the launch of the Xbox One an got a huge backlash when gamers rejected their always online requirement and they had to backtrrack. Now they have been slowly pushing the same thing with the Gamepass service and have gained a foothold.

Eventually gamers will have no choice but to pay a regular subscription to access the majority of the AAA games.

S2Killinit478d ago (Edited 478d ago )

@Jack
I know exactly where it leads, they are buying up the industry that used to make multiplatform games to make them exclusive, thats where it leads. Games everyone including xbox owners would have enjoyed anyway are going to become exclusive and xbox fans should he happy for some reason even though it just makes the industry a smaller place. If you are too blind to see that others will do the same and where that goes then keep following Microsoft but then dont bitch later when the shoe is on the other foot.

This acquisition will lead to anyone with deep pockets rushing in and making their own walled gardens. Say goodbye to being able to play almost any game anywhere. THAT’s why Microsoft PR has been banging on about wanting to make games available and all that, its because they were planning this shit show the whole time and they are doing the exact opposite.

Fu&k em for pulling this crap they should have made their own studios and added to the industry not eat up multiplatform publishers.

SatanSki478d ago

While some gamers may realize where it leads, Sony realizes and care about their lost profit only.

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darksky479d ago (Edited 479d ago )

Nintendo approves because it sees this as a way to destroy Sony and because they know their console sells because of their exclusive franchises like Mario, Zelda, etc.

Gunstar75479d ago

35 downvotes from those who simply don't know

blackblades478d ago

Lol steam they aren't on board they just don't cause it doesn't effect them. Nintendo is Nintendo they don't care cause it doesn't effect them either and cod online multiplayer is trash on it that what people play it for

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HardKnockKid24479d ago

May take a little longer than originally thought, but as has been said in the past, the deal will go through. So tired of waking up every day to a Xbox+ABK article. ABK & their employees wants this, MS wants this, it will not hinder competition, let it go. Interested to see what the FTC argues in court on this, if their best examples are from 20 years ago case seems weak.

Flakegriffin479d ago

It doesn’t matter what MS wants or what the employees want. There’s still rules/laws in monopolizing competition to take from competitors. I agree that this is becoming more of an annoying daily read than anything but it doesn’t just work by what they want. What they want and what they get are two different things.

HardKnockKid24479d ago

True…. So let’s talk about the ‘monopoly’ then, which is a situation where there is a single seller of a commodity in an industry market place. What percentage of the market would MS own should this deal go through that makes this a monopoly? Interested in a serious and objective discussion btw

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH479d ago

And how exactly would MS have a monopoly if the own Activision? Nobody has ever explained that just a bunch of BS speculation…

343_Guilty_Spark479d ago

@hardknocks they don't want the truth

S2Killinit479d ago (Edited 479d ago )

@Hardknock & Speaktruth
Im not sure if the LEGAL threshold to block such move is “monopoly” or “anti-competitiveness” but I do know that as a gamer Im concerned for its anti-competitive effect on the industry. Not just now, but also in the future. If deal goes through, others will follow, yahoo, google, apple, sony, amazon, tencent, etc. This merger & acquisition will set legal precedence, and anyone with a deep pocket will rush in to grab a chunk of the industry.

Then.. they will all put up their walls and have gamers pay for their walled gardens. So you are looking into a future where instead of picking from a multitude of multiplat games, you will have to determine which monthly service you would like to pay for. You will lose access to all games in the way you have access to them today. THIS is the future Microsoft is pushing for.

Follow them at your own risk. This buyout will not give xbox gamers more games than they would have had, it just deprives others from what they would have had. Put yourself in others’ shoes for a second.

HardKnockKid24479d ago (Edited 479d ago )

@ S2Killinit three things:

1. This is the CURRENT state of gaming. Where can I go to play FF16 next year?
2. You do not KNOW that that is what MS will do. On top of this, they have made PUBLIC assurances. This would be pretty tough to walk back
3. The basis of this conversation WAS monopolies. Let’s not pivot away from it now that it’s not a provable point.

gangsta_red479d ago (Edited 479d ago )

@Hardknock
"What percentage of the market would MS own should this deal go through that makes this a monopoly?"

They won't ever answer or explain that. It's all just repeated talking points from the few here

Asplundh479d ago

There are over 3000 game developers in the the US alone, it's not a monopoly.

343_Guilty_Spark479d ago

What's anti-competitive about the deal. Say something tangible. Anti-competitive based on what?

JackBNimble479d ago

Flake
Do a little industry research (because I ain't doing it for you) and go look up numbers and stats, and you will find that this deal doesn't even come close to a monopoly.
Better yet , look up the definition of monopoly.... this isn't it.

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generic-user-name479d ago

Jez goes to great lengths to keep the name of the country out of the headline.

"Microsoft's purchase of Activision Blizzard approved in Chile"

Doesn't quite have the same impact does it?

derek479d ago

"Fijian regulators recently approved the acquisition " lol.

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