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PlayStation Network hacker sentenced to year in prison

Cody Kretsinger, a hacker affiliated with LulzSec, has been sentenced to a yearlong prison term for his involvement in the PlayStation Network outage of 2011. Upon his release, a US District Judge in Los Angeles has also ordered Kretsinger to home detention and 1,000 hours of community service. Kretsinger — known to fellow LulzSec members as "Recursion" — last year pled guilty to taking part in the massive hack.

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KingKelloggTheWH4016d ago

Good,crap like that should not be tolerated.

iGAM3R-VIII4016d ago

So all of you guys thin 1 year is acceptable?!?!?!

IMO I think it should be 20+ years

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Ducky4016d ago (Edited 4016d ago )

Why stop at 20 years?
Let's just give the guy capital punishment for using a simple SQL injection to access data.

It's not like the company has any responsibility of actually keeping their client's data secure.

Also, if some of you aren't reading the article, this guy hacked Sony Pictures (in June), so he was not involved in the PSN hack (April).

cl19834016d ago (Edited 4016d ago )

@ Ducky
Kretsinger — known to fellow LulzSec members as "Recursion" — last year pled guilty to breaching the Sony Pictures site through SQL injection and providing personal customer data to LulzSec.

From what your saying, if someone breaks into a car and hot wires it but someone else drives off then only the driver should be punished.

Ducky4016d ago (Edited 4016d ago )

^ In your analogy, the car owner have reasonably secured themselves against theft.
In the case of the hacks, Sony hadn't done that , and this was an area they improved upon following the attacks.

So yea, Kretsinger is a criminal and deserves punishment for his actions.
If he had to hack his way through difficult security measures, then yea, I'd like to see a longer jail time, but a single SQL injection?
Seems unreasonable to be demanding 10 or 20+ years for that.

DragonKnight4016d ago

@Ducky: Name one impenetrable online service.

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Testfire4016d ago

This ruling brought a smile to my face. And yes, 1 year is enough, I think it will be lesson learned.

Ducky4016d ago (Edited 4016d ago )

@DragonKnight

That's easy. XBL.
har har har

Anyways, the issue is how weak their security was. Nothing is impenetrable provided you use enough force, but in Sony Pictures' case, it required little force to break through.

That's where the leniency probably comes in regarding his sentence.
... but maybe the legislators of N4G know better.

DragonKnight4016d ago

Sony Pictures isn't something anyone but Sony cared about. The issue everyone cared about was PSN. I mean, the Pentagon is bombarded with millions of hacking attempts a day just from China alone. Would they be to blame if one hacker was successful?

Ducky4016d ago (Edited 4016d ago )

^ Well, the article is about Sony Pictures, since that's who the hacker hacked, and why he got the sentence.

... and you're right, probably no-one cared for Sony Pictures, which is why they might've been lax on security.

Not sure what the Pentagon argument is there for. The Pentagon has security good enough to defend itself against all those hackers. If one hacker succeed, then they likely would have to be very skilled or lucky... in either case, no, I wouldn't blame the Pentagon.
In Sony Pictures' case, it was an amateur who used one SQL injection to get data that wasn't even ecnrypted.

MikeMyers4016d ago

Has anyone penetrated Paypal?

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4016d ago

@iGAM3R-VIII

This must make u super happy?

"Allegedly, SuperDaE could be looking at 20+ years in prison with a possible consecutive life sentence if convicted."
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

Life for leaking xbox 730 info... smh..

SilentNegotiator4015d ago (Edited 4015d ago )

"Why stop at 20 years?
Let's just give the guy capital punishment for using a simple SQL injection to access data.
It's not like the company has any responsibility of actually keeping their client's data secure"

Wow...so a person that steals a TV from a home without a locked door should get a lighter sentence than someone that picks a locked door to steal? You're pulling the burden for the crime away from the criminal?

Talk about "n4g legislators"...so, how many accounts does it take to get yourself to 7 bubbles?

Ducky4015d ago (Edited 4015d ago )

^ It would be helpful if people actually used analogies that are actually relevant.

An SQL attack is not like robbing a car or breaking into a house. It is a common tactic that most big sites should be prepared to defend themselves against since SQL attacks occur regularly... unlike theft attempts to a house/car.

I see it more like a soda can machine that gets abused regularly by passer-bys as they hope to get a free drink. If someone bangs the machine on the side and gets a free drink, that's a crime. If someone breaks the machine's lock, opens it up and grabs a drink that way, that's a more severe crime.

The machine can not be impenetrable, but you expect the manufacturer to have anticipated that it would get banged every now and then, and take necessary measured to secure itself against that.

Similarly, what Kretsinger did was something that Sony Pictures should've anticipated
... and that's why I'm guessing the sentence was smaller.

As for my bubble count. No, I don't have any multiple accounts and quite frankly, who gives a damn? If my argument makes sense, it makes sense, if it doesn't, it doesn't. If you agree, you agree, and if you disagree, then just post a counter argument.

GrandTheftZamboni4015d ago

You guys are too harsh. With such name he was destined not to have social life.

lilbrat234015d ago

I was thinking more of 5 to 10yrs with fines of at least 200,000 :-)

HiddenMission4015d ago

@ Ducky

It doesn't matter about how advanced the security it's about how bad the crime was.

Here is an analogy for you...should a bank robber get a smaller sentence just because the bank only had one security guard versus a longer one if the bank employed many.

Stealing customer data like a credit card or social can do more damage to a persons life than almost anything. Some cases fighting credit fraud can take years if the individual doesn't have credit monitoring. When they don't they have to go to court...that cost money...do you think the criminal is going to pay for those costs.

All the time we see criminals get easy sentences for what some think to be petty or non-life threatening crimes. In all reality a crime is a crime and if the act could potentially do major damage to your life then yes 1 year not enough in this case.

Ducky4015d ago (Edited 4015d ago )

^ The crime escalates with security though.
Suppose you have accounts at two banks, and both unfortunately got robbed.
Bank 1 had a well equipped security team and a heavy duty safe. The thief neutralized all the guards and blasted through the safe and took off with the money.
Bank 2 had one security guard, and no safe, which the thief took care of easily.

Would you expect both criminals to get the same sentence?
Would you be sympathetic to both banks?

Consider this, the reason Kretsinger got caught was that he went public and bragged about his 'achievements'. Had he stayed quiet, he still would have all that personal information. Had he wanted, he could've quietly sold that information.

Considering how he was only an amateur who used one SQL injection and the data wasn't even encrypted, it's not out of the question that someone else beforehand hadn't already quietly hacked the system and stole identities.

Identity theft is a serious crime, but you have to realize some blame goes to the corporation that is supposed to be protecting your information, but skimps on the security.

nukeitall4015d ago (Edited 4015d ago )

It's ridiculous that after almost a decade after SQL injection attack was discovered, that a major company like Sony be vulnerable to such a simple attach.

For over half a decade, SQL injection attacks are subverted directly in the programming language by using prepared statements.

It's a basic thing for any programmer, like 1+1=2 is to math.

@Ducky:

I completely agree with you. Even though you own a gun, and it can be taken from you from your own home, it doesn't mean you should be careless with the weapon!

greatcrusader444015d ago (Edited 4015d ago )

Jesus, people are rough. Do people realize how long a year in prison is? Yeah this guy did something illegal but wanting him to get 10-20 yrs are assholes, that's pretty much ruining his entire life.

You only have one life, a yr of prison time should be enough for the charge, it'll hopefully teach him to spend his spare time wisely. If he goes straight back to it ans gets caught again, sure a longer jail time but as a first offense anything over a year would be overkill.

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ziggurcat4016d ago

should have been a stiffer punishment, quite frankly.

Minato-Namikaze4016d ago

he'll get one on prison, lol

T24015d ago (Edited 4015d ago )

@ ducky - your argument is terrible and completely wrong. The only difference between banging said soda machines and breaking the lock are that breaking it is a different crime. Stealing the soda is still theft in both cases , period.
its like saying a person who has a gun in the house is asking to get shot with it. Stealing other peoples id is id theft period. If I left my credit card at your freakin house and you used it id still f u up ... According to you itd be my fault for not securing it ...

GetSnooked4016d ago

That's what she said!! Haahahaa...

KwietStorm_BLM4016d ago

And now we await all the minions who didn't learn shit, to retaliate by hacking again.

Gazondaily4015d ago

I hope you're joking.

The mob on here haven't failed to show their complete disconnect with things like reason, understanding and equity.

Oh_Yeah4015d ago (Edited 4015d ago )

This guy shouldn't have gotten any time. Smh, he did Sony a favor by showing them their holes...no fraudulent reports were filed from the hack. Now if a real criminal got up in there that would have been different but this guy, he was just testing his skills. Sony should have offered him a job same goes for Geohotz because obviously they're a bit more knowledgeable than some of Sonys personel.

Knight_Crawler4015d ago (Edited 4015d ago )

Ultimate hacker punishment would be to cut all his fingers off.

This guy is probably laughing at 1 year and will use the prison time to look for noobs for his Legion of Hackers club.

Lone_Man4015d ago

@iGAM3R-VIII thank god you are not a judge

HiddenMission4015d ago

I guess you don't understand that credit fraud against one person can some times take years to correct...now depending on how many peoples credit information yeah more time in prison is better than a year.

In a way I think we should take the practice used over in the middle east where the crime matches the punishment...steal you get your hand cut off...in this case you cut some fingers off.

He won't be pulling that shit again even if he wants to.

Sucitta4015d ago

you sloths realize child molesters get less time then this?

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cl19834016d ago

They should of gave him 10 years in prison with no time off.

Irishguy954016d ago (Edited 4016d ago )

10 Years? For hacking? Are you serious? Did he kill someone or something?

Yes cleft down below...because Hacking a website = Threatening someones life

Jesus...the ignorance on this website grows day by day

Edit-- Yeah Kneon but being stupid is nothing in comparison to pulling a knife on someone for 50 cent

kneon4016d ago

Hacking isn't a crime of need, it's not a crime of passion, it's a crime of stupidity, and I have little tolerance for stupidity.

Ducky4016d ago (Edited 4016d ago )

^ It is a crime of passion.
Most hackers enjoy the challenge that comes with having to find exploits in a system's security.

Edit:
@DK
I like to have fun with words.

DragonKnight4016d ago

@Ducky: You don't know what a crime of passion is do you?

dangert124016d ago

I was as pissed as anyone when PSN went down, i brought SOCOM 4!!!!!!!!!!

But this is too harsh plain and simple. I agree with the community service heck throw on another 1000 hours. but taking his freedom...while the US Gov keep up there fraudulant terror attacts after now 911, then batman.then the school now boston...and what time are the gov doing?

GalacticEmpire4016d ago

He broke into a secure server that may have contained personal information on millions of customers and possibly even credit card info.

A year seems fair to me, bearing in mind he'll probably be out in less than that with 'good behaviour'...

...If he doesn't get shanked by a Playstation fanboy inmate lol.

xHeavYx4016d ago

@Dangert, go home my friend, you are drunk

Skips4016d ago (Edited 4016d ago )

"...If he doesn't get shanked by a Playstation fanboy inmate lol."

LMAO. I just couldn't help but imagine that a few times. XD

JoGam4016d ago (Edited 4016d ago )

I hear you but these are the facts.....Fact 1. Hacking in to a company is a crime plan and simple and this guy was found guilty so he must pay the piper. As for the US gov doing what you claim....FACT 2. NEED PROOF. Without that, its just accusations. No one went to Jail or did time just for accusations.

TheFirstClassic4016d ago

9/11 and the school shooting admittedly have some interesting evidence and videos to back them up. The batman shooting and the boston bombing though? Not sure where that is coming from. You can't blame every incident on the government.

JoGam4016d ago (Edited 4016d ago )

Those aren't evidence. Those are just theories. For example...Evidence would be parts from the plane that crashed in to the towers on 911. Theories would be possible reasons why and how. Evidence are facts.

Klonopin4015d ago

Can i play conspiracy theory too?

KwietStorm_BLM4016d ago (Edited 4016d ago )

You're all over the place, man, and it just comes off as another "Screw the government" rant. Yea the politicians got issues, but what does that have to do with the actions of this one particular dummy? He made his bed. Now he's got to sleep in it with Bubba. Hacks for jokes is one thing. This guy, along with others like him, stole personal information and provided it to a conglomerate of clowns. If you've ever had to deal with identity theft, a year punishment might sound like a slap on the wrist for this guy.

HiddenMission4015d ago

Exactly a year not enough since it doesn't match the crime.

joeorc4015d ago

he really did not get off light!, but on the same token the plea bargin was fair. you do know recent law's were passed to have a mandatory three year's in hacking networked computer systems. he was able to plea bargin this down to one year in jail, and also another year home detainment with 1000 hours of community service. with a fine of $600,000. and most likely a bar from using networked computer systems for no less than 5 year's.

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Prcko4016d ago (Edited 4016d ago )

5 years minimum,1 year is 2 low for this type of crime

haymoza4016d ago

Good.
Now he can get his butt hacked.

ZoyosJD4015d ago

Eye for an eye.

Tooth for a tooth.

Backdoor SQL injection for a...well...backdoor injection.

Sounds like reasonable punishment.

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New data suggests PlayStation PC trophies are in the works

A recent trophy list published on the PlayStation Network contains hints that Sony is testing PlayStation PC trophies.

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XxSPIDEYxX185d ago

How sweet of Sony to slowly migrate their audience to PC.

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Sony Quietly Removed the Ability to Transfer Games from PS3 to Vita - PlayStation LifeStyle

Sony removed the ability to transfer games from PS3 to Vita, which unfortunately locks Vita players out of a lot of PS1 classics.

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ZeekQuattro693d ago

Sony really hates the Vita. Years later and they're still finding ways to snub owners of the device.

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Tacoboto692d ago (Edited 692d ago )

Sony really hates the players, demonstrated by an onslaught of anti-consumer moves - from PS+ Cloud Save restrictions, enforced DualSense on-console (despite input flexibility on Remote Play), no DLC Support for PS3 PS+ titles, upgrade fees on not just cross-gen titles but also now on their new PS+ service, to things like this.

Only Nintendo out-snubs Sony on treatment of their players.

King_Noctis692d ago

This I have to agree. Nintendo is the worst when it comes to consumer-friendly moves, and now Sony is coming so close.

Auron692d ago (Edited 692d ago )

Well atleast nintendo dont dictate/cherry pick what deserves censorship on 3rd party titles.

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Goozex692d ago

Ya ms has anti consumer moves like drm

persona4chie692d ago

I fully agree that Nintendo cares less about its fans and stuff, but can we look at each company for what they’re doing not others? Yeah I’m irritated at Nintendo for more or less ignoring drift, limited releases like Mario 3D all stars etc, but guess what when I’m mad at Sony for something I’m not going to keep bringing it up, it’s not going to change the fact that I still can’t transfer my ps1 games.

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Wrex369692d ago

Yeah unfortunately they gave it a decent start then just kind of relegated it to the bin. Really great handheld though and in its day was my favorite. Gravity Rush, Persona 4 golden, uncharted, tearaway, freedom unite monster hunter(psn downloaded psp version), and DRAGONS CROWN.. just to name a few.. such a good handheld I'd wish they'd try again man.

shinoff2183692d ago

Only indie devs helped keep it alive sony got some games made for it. Just most aaa devs didnt bother. That was the vitas downfall

darthv72692d ago

It seems like this was included in the most recent PS3 and Vita fw updates. So as long as i dont upgrade my systems... it should still work.

porkChop692d ago

What, why? I don't understand the point of this.

Inverno692d ago

People, jailbreak you Vita.

IanTH692d ago

Yeah, I'm not sure why Sony did this. It's one more thing to push people towards CFW, and then that's basically priming people to pirate. Why would they take away a feature? Why do companies continue to punish the loyal, paying customers? It boggles the mind.

flyinb11691d ago

This definitely pushed me to do it.

GoodGuy09692d ago

Just mod your vita and ps3 lol.

one2thr692d ago

This, Pokémon Inclement Emerald on PSVita🤯

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PlayStation Network Currently Generates Over $14 Billion In Sales

PlayStation Network currently generates over a staggering $14 billion in digital sales.

MastaMold696d ago (Edited 696d ago )

Yea with this type of revenue could people start to realize and drop the topic of "Sony needs a Game pass. "

TheGreatGazoo30696d ago

That is what all the smart business people are saying "subscription models are a fad."

Silly gameAr696d ago

@TheGreatGazoo

They also said PS Now was a failure. You think all that money is coming from sub models alone?

Bathyj696d ago

The only industry where people on the losing side think the leaders should follow the losers. Sony's clearly fine doing what they've been doing for 25 years. Selling games like the industry has always done.

Orchard696d ago (Edited 696d ago )

@Bathyj "Sony's clearly fine doing what they've been doing for 25 years. Selling games like the industry has always done."

Gotta future proof. I'm sure Blockbuster folk said the same thing about Netflix when it first came on the scene. Business models and consumer expectations change over time.

SullysCigar696d ago

^ sure Orchard, Blockbuster is one example. Another might be Netflix losing subscribers to the point they're changing their policy and threatening their customers.

Netflix started off as good value, then was amazing as the content was great as well as the price, but now it's expensive compared to it's peers and has lost a load of content to them. Original content is mostly crap now and I'm betting a significant crash in users is coming for them late this year.

My point being? Gamepass and anything Sony may do along those lines may well face the same fate. There's nothing wrong with diversification, but you have to focus on your main money maker and people are lapping up PlayStation traditional model - for good reason.

ABizzel1696d ago

They don't "need GamePass" for financials. They needed the revamp to ensure consumer engagement, loyalty, and market share didn't shift in favor of Xbox due to the potential short-term / long-term success of GamePass.

This is why we have the new PS+. They don't need a direct GamePass competitor, they simply needed an easy to get into and well-marketed subscription service that offers a library of games for the more casual consumer since the core fanbase actually buys games on PS.

Godmars290696d ago

Though, aren't they getting a Game Pass. Just that theirs wont include day one major releases.

MrNinosan696d ago

@Godmars290
They had it for years, way before Gamepass was a thing.

Obscure_Observer696d ago

"Yea with this type of revenue could people start to realize and drop the topic of "Sony needs a Game pass"

Well, whether Sony needs a "Game Pass" I can´t tell but, I´m certain they can´t allow themselves to stay idle and not react to Xbox´s recent advances either. According to Newzoo´s latest report, Microsoft´s year-on-year growth is +9,6% vs Sony -2,3% vs Nintendo +1,9%.

https://venturebeat.com/wp-...

Also once the Activision/Blizzard acquisition is completed, Xbox is expected to become the second biggest company in gaming, right behind Tecent.

https://venturebeat.com/wp-...

https://www.gamesindustry.b...

That´s why Sony´s future investments will be more focused on subscription services, GaaS, Multiplatform, PC and Mobile. There are also rumors of a PS Plus launcher for PC coming soon.

Die hard PS fans might hate the direction that Sony is apparently following under Yoshida (CEO) and Ryan by making PS games and services "less exclusive". But inteligent and reasonable PS fans knows that Sony must do what they have to do if they intent to survive trillion dollar companies like Apple, Google, Amazon and Microsoft while continue and deliver high quality game and services.

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RickRoland696d ago (Edited 696d ago )

“Gotta future proof. I'm sure Blockbuster folk said the same thing about Netflix when it first came on the scene. Business models and consumer expectations change over time.”

The difference here is overall convenience. You had to drive to the store and browse then purchase get a game/movie from them and drive home. You have free access from your house to browse and purchase on PS Network. If someone really wants a game and it is of quality and has great reviews they will buy it. Blockbuster lost to internet convenience, not pricing.

Over time subscription services get so large that the fees have to increase, making the value decrease…and as we have seen with sub services quality decreases also. Not everyone wants another monthly bill in their budget for 2-3 games a year they really want to play. A reliance on a sub service weens once you sift through the initial 3-6 months of library access. I know for myself that my gamepass subscription was much more amazing when I first got my series x than it is now 1 year later. At this point I’m just waiting for exclusives…which I wouldn’t mind purchasing without a monthly script because it’s a few games a year.

BehindTheRows696d ago

He knows that, he’s just on the “opposing view” because it’s PlayStation. If Xbox generated this much, and more than PlayStation, it’d be a whole different tune.

Truth is Sony has the winning model and should keep doing exactly what has won them generation(s).

1Victor695d ago

But but but I was told that PS3 was Sony last console and Microsoft was going to buy them.
I want my money back from those damn cheap pact of Gypsies predictions 🤷🏿

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neutralgamer1992696d ago

In fluffy's voice "DAMN"

PlayStation is universal brand. It sells in every country and the brand recognition is just on another level. I think it was like 2018 or 2019 when PlayStation generated more money than Xbox and Nintendo combined

MastaMold

Sony doesn't need GP because they have a huge library of games from their past generations that people can't wait to play again with trophy support. And they have been the best ever since launch of PS5. Game after game while as a Xbox series X owner I am playing the wait game. HFW, GT7, GOW, TOKYO Ghostwire and rumor has it TLOU remake will release this year too. While Ms have all the resources and not much AAA content

Hopefully 2023 is when Xbox can get on a steady schedule for releasing awesome games. Honestly this is the last straw if anything like this happens again than Phil has to and I do mean has to go. He can't be failing this badly with the amount of resources at his disposal

Aloymetal696d ago

''PlayStation is universal brand. It sells in every country and the brand recognition is just on another level. I think it was like 2018 or 2019 when PlayStation generated more money than Xbox and Nintendo combined''

You're absolutely right with both statements.!
https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Eonjay695d ago

I would like to point out that even though is evident that Sony doesn't 'need' GP, they are going to profit very handsomely from their own subscription and they are going to do it without compromising the revenue they get from their first party releases.

Sony Nintendo and Microsoft have worked together to enrich each other. Sony took PSNow, rebranded it to be like GamePass with it's catalog of newer games and then added in Nintendo's retro service. They deserve credit for taking some great aspects of their competitor's programs and making it work for their business.

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Flawlessmic696d ago

Love to hear it, now keep giving us the usual AAA single player bangers, keep the gaas rubbish to a minimum.

thesoftware730696d ago (Edited 696d ago )

That's good money!

Playstation Network includes all digital purchases, DLC, MT, the monthly/ yearly fee, PSnow and any other paid service on the network.

120mill PS4 and 20 mill PS5, I'm not surprised.

Lol, why mention they don't need a GP service when they are actually doing a similar service come June. I would take that to mean they see more $$ coming from it.

I would surmises the other 2 systems generate in the billions for their digital services as well.

SullysCigar696d ago

"why mention they don't need a GP service"

Because they don't. It's called diversification. They're aiming to offer choices and the best of all worlds. To suggest they 'need' it, though, when they're taking profits like that would be plain wrong.

thesoftware730696d ago

Uh-huh, but who claimed they "needed" it?

Subscriptions services are what all gaming associated brands are doing, Amazon, Google, Nvidia, Ubisoft, EA, MS, Nintendo, Apple, and even Netflix.

Please stop with the "they are diversifying", spin nonsense. They all are, if you can purchase games in a multiple way on

thesoftware730696d ago

Uh-huh, but who claimed they "needed" it?

Subscription services are what all gaming associated brands are doing, Amazon, Google, Nvidia, Ubisoft, EA, MS, Nintendo, Apple, and even Netflix.

Please stop with the "they are diversifying", spin to make them sound different nonsense. They all are diversifying by definition, if you can purchase games and services in multiple ways on a platform then they are all giving diversifying options lol. Sony just like the rest of them sees money to be made.

You can buy, MS games on PC, Xbox, in a store, digitally or sub to GP...see diversifying. You can buy Nintendo games on Mobile, in a store, digitally or you can sub NSO..see diversifying. You can buy games, and 1000 different apps on IOS and android or you can sub and get them...diversifying. Sny is no different, their games selling well means nothing, Subs are industry standard and they are just now bolstering that specific dept. because GP and others popularity can't and shouldn't be ignored.

No need to make them sound like they are doing something special, they are simply moving in a well laid out direction as well.

****Sorry for the double post, had to tend to something***

SullysCigar696d ago

^ "Uh-huh, but who claimed they "needed" it?"

Well, you, when you said, "Lol, why mention they don't need a GP service", but it's no big deal.

By the same token, nowhere did I claim Sony is doing something different, nor did i employ spin. I'm sorry, I might not be the fight you're looking for. I'm just pointing out the situation, not comparing them to any other company.

GamingSinceForever696d ago

What Game Pass does is offer all 1st party and some 3rd party games day one. So no Sony doesn’t need to copy that. That is what was meant when people said that.

thesoftware730696d ago

The 14 billion is not from games alone, it is generated through ALL service sales and usage on the network, even movie streaming, HBO Max, Netflix, Spotify, 3rd party services in general, and yes the gaming division.

I get that it's making money, but the whole "no need for GP-like service", when they are indeed doing a GP-like service is pure worship and a pointless thing to say. Offering the 1st party games on day one has nothing to do with this, technically none of them have to do that, they just chose different directions with that one specific thing.

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GamingSinceForever696d ago

Sony doesn’t need a GP like service, but that isn’t to say one wouldn’t be nice to have.

Anyone with common sense would love to have the option of playing Playstation games on day one at a monthly cost, however Sony in their current position doesn’t need to go there because they are still making a nice profit selling games at full price.

So no it isn’t worship, it is just stating the facts. They feel that giving away their games would dilute the quality.

MrNinosan696d ago (Edited 696d ago )

They had PSNow for years, they're just rebranding and cleaning it a bit.

John_McClane696d ago

I wonder how much of the money generated comes from their movie company?

Deeeeznuuuts695d ago

Separate division of Sony, so none.

John_McClane695d ago

@DeeeezNuuuts They sell their movies on psn don't they?

P_Bomb694d ago

They stopped selling movies/tv on PSN a while back.

jBlakeeper695d ago (Edited 695d ago )

Because the service they are releasing isn’t meant to compete with GamePass.

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