Xbox NEXT, revealed logo, symbols and hashtag for the expected event of May 2013?

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The rumor about Microsoft and its Spring Showcase 2013 event dedicated to the presentation of the new Xbox NEXT (or 720 if you like) back today thanks to a template found on the net.

The set of logos and symbols that underline the versatility of the Xbox to several other devices was discovered in a document shown as a template for the PowerPoint presentation.

[Munky]

Logo seems a bit "meh"... I thought they hired some some hot shot indie designer to create the new logo.

[_-EDMIX-_]

I would take it as a rumor. But still, understand that a leak last year and this year stated it would not be called 720 or Xbox 3, etc. It would be re-braneded just Xbox. (I think its quite weird too)

[sikbeta]

I think XBOX alone doesn't work, should be like any product, "XBOX ___" Idk, I worked great for years and there is no need to change that, loved the rumored Xbox Infinity with the idea of the eight turn into the infinte logo

[Zhipp]

@sikbeta
Yeah, I really like the Xbox ∞ idea.

[RyuCloudStrife]

If you see the controller on those slides they apparently switched the D-pad and buttons, and tilted slightly, also they brought the two analog sticks down like the DualShock.

Is this the new controller??

[Cryptcuzz]

@The_Science_Guy

Yeah I noticed the difference in the controller as well.

If these pictures are real, why would they show the controller with the analog sticks in the same position as the Dualshock controllers?

On top of that, the controllers D-Pad and face buttons have swapped positions? That is most odd considering everything seems backwards.

[lsujester]

I think it's a reversed image. If you notice the other items, they are reversed, too. The camera button has the shutter on the opposite side, the speaker is opposite of what you actually see on Windows. The people and the hand on the button are oriented left-handed when you always see them right-handed.

EDIT: Also the cursor is flipped. While that may be the new controller, it's almost definitely flipped around.

[SkyGamer]

Kind of makes sense to me. Remember AMD saying that the next Xbox could do "Avatar" like graphics? Just maybe....

[Erdrick]

i think the indie designer was creating a new logo for windows related projects, not the xbox brand

[bangshi]

What new logo?

It is the same as the current logo...

[StoneyYoshi]

BU BU BU.....there is no "360" in it. lol

[bangshi]

They already use this logo to refer to Xbox as a brand - and whilst the 360 branding almost always carries the 3D 'X' symbol, the flat style is used on other Xbox services.

[Godz Kastro]

I wish people would stop leaving comments as if this is an official word from MS. Billy Gates has said nothing, absolutely nada.

For all we know a nextbox doesnt even exist; i know it does just saying we know not a thing.

[Godz Kastro]

I guess MS made an announcement and I missed it based off disagrees.

[UnholyLight]

I haven't read the article yet, but everyone should recall the updated Xbox design on the game cases and new Xbox 360 were somewhat confirmed by an Italian source. I can't remember exact details but I just thought I'd mention it haha.

[Syntax-Error]

No one still knows sh!t. I am sure that is not the real logo or font. It was generic font they used to outline their presentation

[TheFamous1]

This is fake guys..

[zerocrossing]

I hope that's not the logo O.o

[TheKayle1]

that images ...show brainfuck codes...(programming language)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

and if u traslate on here

http://brainfuck.tk/

all the codes...every image mean

Storm Clouds (1 image)
More than now (2 image)
Deep Computing (3 image)
Petaflops>Teraflops (4 image)

enjoy it

[r21]

Wondering what those symbols were. Thanks for that. Wish i could translate them myself but I dont do 'codes'.

[Munky]

Petaflops>Teraflops .... interesting

[MasterCornholio]

1 Petaflop = 1000 Teraflops.

The PS4 is only 1.7 Teraflops so how the heck is Microsoft going to produce a console with 1000 teraflops?

This is the main reason why i think this is fake.

[Good_Guy_Jamal]

Cloud computing. It makes sense if you factor in the other hints, storm clouds, more than now, deep computing.
Always online confirmed?

[DeadlyFire]

Cloud gaming basically OTOY is supported on X720. Why partner with Agawi cloud service then.

http://www.pcmag.com/articl...

OTOY + Octane Render = http://render.otoy.com/

Why else would you need a cloud service? API built for Cloud service = unlimited graphical, physics, and so on as long as the bandwidth is in place. Which would indeed require always on internet for that to function. So it fits the rumors.

PS4 can do this as well with Octane Render API on Gaikai servers or with their own API on Gaikai servers.

These images I deem to be real. I am betting AMD/OTOY push the Octane Render API onto X720 or PS4 or both while Sony with Gaikai and Microsoft with Agawi supporting it. Why else would one shrug NVIDIA away. Even Nintendo could have a monster console if they supported this cloud tech and had the bandwidth to back it up. NVIDIA says look we have GRID, but they lack the API to do what OTOY does.

Bandwidth I see is the only problem for it. OnLive burned itself by launching early. Is it still to early to support these type of games? Another question I could propose is if based on Cloud tech in the console will there be discs?

[r21]

Im going to have to doubt this piece of news considering they dont have the infamous layout of the xbox controller in the image. Heck, the sticks are symmetrical and directional buttons are on the right side of the controller image. UNLESS MS has decided to switch up their controller layout for next gen and that doesnt seem likely as it'll alienate the xbox fans.

[Nalaboy]

All reports are the controller will be the same with an improved d pad. So i too agree and doubt this too.

[sourav93]

Agreed. The images below explains what r21 is trying to say:

xbox 360 layout: http://www.2d-x.com/wp-cont...

The logo from the website: http://www.4news.it/images/... (Bottom right)

[mcstorm]

I have said for a long time that Microsoft are about to change the way we think of gaming, Computing and mobile with Windows 8, Windows Phone 8 and the new xbox.

I really like what Sony and Nintendo are doing with there new consoles but if you look at the services Microsoft can offer on all there platforms that Sony and Nintendo cant.

Should be interesting to see what Microsoft show off over the next 8 months in terms of there eco system.

[IRetrouk]

Sorry have to ask what services do you mean? tv? Music? Games? Something to do with cloud? Sony can and will offer all of these services and more with the ps4 at some point, just dont see what microsoft could offer that sony couldnt match. Obviously some may differ platform to platform but i dont think there will be much diffrence hardware or service wise between the two next consoles from sony and ms, its all going to be down to games i think.

[mcstorm]

I mean the way it can be offered. Sony will only offer there services on Sony branded devices where Xbox live games can be on any platform as MS is a software company. They can add Xbox live, Music, Videos ect to Android and IOS devices. Also on there own Windows platform to. The same with Skydrive ect.

Im not saying the next xbox will sell more or be better than the next PlayStation but MS are in a better position than Sony to offer there services on all platforms as MS are a software company Sony are not.

I don't think there will be much difference in power between the two in terms of power I just think the next xbox box will offer a little bit more in terms of services than the next PlayStation. For me ill still own a PS4 and next xbox and keep my Wiiu to as I want games on all platforms as I cant live without Mario, Zelda, Halo, Forza, GT, Kill zone ect.

[Mikefizzled]

As true a point as that is why on earth would Apple allow Microsoft to put Xbox Music on their platform when its sole intention is to compete with iTunes.

[just_jeff]

well... the playstation app is confirmed for iOS and Android devices. And in today's world if its not already on your computer/device you can just download it.

[bangshi]

@mcstorm you're wrong.

Sony ALREADY has its TV, movies and music services on phones - non-Sony branded phones.

So I don't know why you think they can't do it and if they can, only on Sony devices.

In fact, Microsoft does not have its music and video streaming services on either Android or iPhone - so maybe you want to switch your biased view around.

[Th3 Chr0nic]

that would make sense if windows 8 were anything other than utter garbage

[bangshi]

I love the disagrees I get for pure facts.

Typical Xbots.

Anyway, Mikefizzled, the point you make on Apple allowing Xbox Music on iTunes is an interesting one.

However iTunes has lots of other music services - including Sony's Music Unlimited, on iTunes.

[SCW1982]

They absolutely changed how i view Windows after releasing Windows 8. That is the biggest joke ever.

[MilkMan]

Everyone gets butthurt at the slightest thing. Guess all they want is zombies and COD. I've been taking up different hobbies since I know this whole thing is going to implode.

[irokster]

Good for you. Leave the gaming to us.

[MilkMan]

Yeah. To old to deal with all this emo, no money having "gang" of kids that feel entitled.

[FunAndGun]

You are too old but yet use the ever so mature term "butthurt" and call others kids. lol

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Lol well he said he took up other hobbies

[WeedyOne]

1. Storm Clouds (cloud service)

2. More than now (in the future)

3. Deep Computing (can make complex computations)

4. Petaflops> Teraflops (theoretically capable of petaflops)

Cloud service in the future that can make complex computations theoretically capable of petaflops.

Could be something like playstations folding@home, which has already reached over 1 petaflop in combined performance back in 2007.

Source: http://blog.us.playstation....

[grailly]

it's a good assumption. looks like these pictures are mostly about cloud computing.

[zmack]

Yeah, I also interpreted it as cloud computering. Storm clouds and petaflops is pretty much a giveaway. Also, Microsoft would need thier own solution to compete with Sony and Gaikai. Now the question is how are they using it?

My assumption is that it will supplement backwards compatibility in the future and perhaps act as an additive at first, similiar to how Sony is using their cloud service. In the future perhaps more of the newer games will start to use the service though. Perhaps that's what this whole online only thing is all about after all?

[DeadlyFire]

OTOY. Octane Render. AMD Fusion Render Cloud 1+ Petaflops setups to aim at Cloud Computing. Basically CGI like graphics, but on Cloud tech.

Petaflops. AMD and OTOY agreed together to jointly develop a 1 Petaflops setup for Cloud computing back in 2009 and planned for it to go commercial in 2010 as the next gen consoles were originally thought of as releasing around 2010 this could fit every rumor stated. As bandwidth not existing equals failure to load games so...always online? Discs?

http://www.forbes.com/sites... <<< Even this statement could be true with cloud rendering behind it. I am doubtful it only applies to Xbox this generation though. AMD stated Next generation consoles for their Fusion render Cloud before as well. Microsoft likely was just the first one to sign onto it. Could be the reason why Sony has Gaikai in their hands now though.

Even the WiiU could have a fighting chance graphically with Cloud graphics rendering. Although with GPGPU coding it would mean more than just graphics, but physics, and so on could change as well to a certain degree. I see X720's fighting chance to outdo the PS4's graphics, but how much extra is the subscription fee?

Way different than Folding@Home. http://render.otoy.com/inde...

[WeedyOne]

I understand that folding@home and cloud graphics rendering are different.

I just doubt this tech will be used for cloud rendering CGI quality graphics which is why i pointed at uses like Folding@Home which seems more practical.

[DeadlyFire]

Well folding@home is just using calculations from the CPU processors.

Something like AMD Fusion Render Cloud or Octance Render API utilizes 1000s of GPUs to render graphics, and possibly physics. It could technically be used in the same way I suppose for folding, but it has not been attempted yet with GPGPU coding I believe.

I am doubtful any game will come out in the first few years of X720/PS4 utilizing it, but even on the slides they claim future. So its likely to be attempted at a midway point in the console's life. CGI quality graphics are possible, but to a certain extent. Bandwidth is really the only issue in the way of that.

It could be a way in the future for PS4/X720 to offer the same game as you can get on the new consoles on the disc on the Cloud with extra HD features beyond typical PC game graphics with say a subscription service to compete with High end PCs on a console world. High bandwidth would be required for it to work flawlessly though.

[trenso1]

dont know if thats real or whatever but it seems plausible since i think it goes with the whole windows 8 metro style

[OC_MurphysLaw]

those images almost look like something more for a powerpoint than an actual logo. I suspect this is part of some presentation and not an actual logo or obviously a name ...unless...they do actually just rename it "Xbox" and it becomes the platform name like the iPad.

[josephayal]

Beautiful

[Tzuno]

The logo is simple and clean well done looks nice. Also "Xbox Next" as a name for the console? maybe?!? sounds nice.

[LKHGFDSA]

lol it's like Pepsi Next. the failed Pepsi of late.
It's a bad name for the Xbox, it sounds like "Xbox Later", as if you won't buy it until something else.

[Mikefizzled]

I do like the styling the whole Microsoft brand is going even though I'm not fond of the new logo. Love the WP8 style and the W8 metro style as long as its not on a traditional PC or laptop.

[jmac53]

I am really excited about having all your devices connected to the Xbox. Multitasking would be awesome. Watching Netflix while playing an arcade game on your tablet.

[kreate]

everything is being integrated to windows, their biggest money maker. not to the xbox.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Yes Windows is going to be the unifying work horse behind the scenes, but everything entertainment wise is going to be unified under the Xbox brand. Games, Music, On demand movie & Television all under Xbox.

[kreate]

@dlacy13g

isnt that based on speculation?

[Cueil]

everything is already rebranded under XBox

[Th3 Chr0nic]

pretty bland and meh

[Sevir]

It's very obvious its coming and I wish ms would just announce it... :) this year will be amazing for gamers all around. I'm only getting a PS4 but I'd certainly love to see what MS is doing for my loyal Xbox friends in the next Gen!

I wish Sony would have just marketed the PS4 as "The New PlayStation" much like how Apple marketed the 3rd and 4th IPad as "The New IPad" and I somehow feel that MS will take that approach.

If Sony did that, it would be like re-writing history, going back to basics to imagine what made PS so iconic and synonymous with 21st century gaming.
The need for numbers would be needed as you can see Apple has done a great job showing that. It would be emblematic and powerful in just saying "The New PlayStation"... Either way. I'm excited to see what MS has to offer. And even more excited at the new levels of innovation both consoles will usher in over last generation. I'm super excited of what devs will create with bigger canvases, and as a PS gamer I'm stoked.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

Wow, I don't know how many times you said "Sony" and "PS" in your post. This is an Xbox article Btw, I would guess you would have said something regarding this rumor piece.

[Jek_Porkins]

I'm just excited to get some real news, all the rumor and speculation was fun, some of it was about as fun as a root canal, but I generally like to talk about gaming with people so it had an upside.

The mostly negative stuff has subsided a bit and I'm thinking the playing field will be pretty even, I would prefer the next Xbox be called Xbox Infinity, and they could use the Buzz Lightyear phrase "To Infinity and beyond!". I think it could work out better then Xbox 720, which doesn't make much sense, they wont call it Xbox 3, because it would seem inferior to the PS4 in name, and they wont call it just "Xbox" because that would confuse the heck out of people.

[iGamerZero24]

Umm ! Not suprised if they take the Apple route and just call it XBOX like the original....either way I'm buying it day one just like I will with the PS4 "hands down"

Good times ahead...

[Braid]

So they insanely decided to revese the position of directional pad with the buttons? Yep, that seems totally legit to me.

[Crazay]

I wish the powers that be would prevent articles that require poor translations from being posted. That was not much fun to read.

[crazysammy]

Just by this picture alone I can guarantee that this will be the worst console ever created and will not be any fun for anyone.

[aviator189]

I don't think this is real....
Just take a look at the controller on there.

[Gh05t]

Or the fact that they took the time to put a registered mark on only the Xbox symbol but tot on their Microsoft symbol

[SOULJER]

The controller looks way better. That last one was giving me arthritis. Damn thing felt like a sofa in my hands.

[Knight_Crawler]

You must have tiny baby hands :)

I have manly hands so the 360 controller is perfect - the PS3 controller in the other hands is small and does not have a heavy feel to it, also the anolog sticks are too close together.

[Evil_Ryu]

They updated the article saying its fake

[Waller]

No. No, they didn't. They updated it to talk about what the petaflops part means.

[Sarobi]

So.. cloud?

[TBONEJF]

PLEASE ALL JOURNALIST and fans STOP CALLING IT THE 720. There's not OFFICIAL NAME OF IT yet

[LKHGFDSA]

everyone knows that's just a nickname.

[LKHGFDSA]

sick of this fake xbox stuff.
has anything legitimate actually been revealed about the system yet? anything at all?

[xg]

Great !

[StrawHatPatriot]

I thought this was already proven as fake?

[FrigidDARKNESS]

AMD will be at the MS Event talking about there The AMD servers will be using there new Sky 9000 gpu cards that are designed for streaming and virtualization. I wouldnt be surprised if the next xbox have a custom version of that GPU if everytjing comes true.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...