Platinum Games: “You’ll see us on the PS4 Eventually,” “Bayonetta Didn’t Sell What we Wanted it to”

Even after releasing Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance back in February, Platinum Games hasn’t had any time to rest, as they are currently working on two different Wii U titles right now – The Wonderful 101 and Bayonetta 2. - PSLS

[TrendyGamers]

I foresee Bayonetta 2 not selling a million if it's just on Wii U.

[Relientk77]

I thought the same thing after seeing this. In a couple years Platinum Games will be saying, "Bayonetta 2 Didn’t Sell What we Wanted it to"

[MikeMyers]

Nintendo is publishing the title which means the game will get decent marketing.

[Skips]

Agreed. Have a feeling Bayonetta 2 is gonna flop hard on the Wii U. Don't think it'll do anywhere NEAR as good as the first considering it was on two consoles. (Not that the first one did great on PS3/360 though).

Bayonetta 2 isn't exactly the type of game people are gonna buy a Wii U for. : /

[HammadTheBeast]

Mike, where's the WII U marketing then? Other than comparing it to the Wii?

[MikeMyers]

HammadTheOne, they will start marketing the game when they have a release date. I expect at E3 it will get some attention.

[Kevin ButIer]

they did a terrible port for the PS3. No excuses at that time for such a mediocre job...

[Reibooi]

This makes me sad because I like Bayonetta but I feel that Bayonetta 2 being on Wii U only will kill the franchise.

The Wii U has already slowed down quite a bit and will soon be overshadowed by the PS4 and next Xbox and that being the case I foresee Bayonetta 2 selling WAY less then the first did which killed the franchise until Nintendo stepped in to fund the 2nd game for the Wii U.

I mean I understand the with Nintendo the franchise is dead but even with them it looks like it's gonna die. Unless Nintendo sucks it up and publishes the game on more then just the Wii U which they could easily do because if they believe in the game enough to fund it they should give it the best chance to succeed and that is on all the consoles possible instead of just the Wii U.

[RyuX19]

Yep and it really saddens me.

[Theyellowflash30]

LOL, bet you anything it will. Nintendo knows how to market their games.

Nobody had high hopes for Fire Emblem Awakening in America for the 3DS, even though the last game only sold 250K

And the sales have now surpassed 300K in America, and will be over a million worldwide.

[ScytheX3]

cant really compare the 2, for one, FEA is a T title, while bayonetta for sure is going to get M and complately different genre aswell which means different audience.

[Theyellowflash30]

It's not about that. It's about taking a game that didn't sell, and was expected not to, and making it sell. Through marketing, bundles, and good reviews.

[Mr_Writer85]

But the 3DS has a large install base, so that gives it a big chance.

The WiiU so far has only sold just under 3 million, so unless it has an 100% attach rate (which no game that doesn't come bundled with a console has done ever)

Even with a 50% attach rate thats 1.5 million the original did 1.9 million, so unless the WiiU's user base doubles and again at least 50% of all WiiU owners buy the game, it looks unlikely that it will outsell the first game.

Also if it did sell 1.9million copies (at this moment in time) it would become the best selling game on the console.

[_QQ_]

Plat wants a bayonetta bundle for wiiu, if that happens then plat will definitely be satisfied with the numbers, i'm sure nintendo will do it too since they had a MH bundle and ZombieU bundle.

[Zer0bros]

And look how horrible MH sales were overall...

[ABizzel1]

And ZombiU

[showtimefolks]

this reminds me so much of NT working on heavenly sword and sony offered them to do more HS games but they refused because it didn't sell well enough(1.5 million plus sold for a launch title)

than comes enslaved on 2 consoles yet it didn't sell anywhere near HS

so PG should really watch what they are saying, and this time around no one can use the excuse that ps4 is hard to develop for

most of these japan developers need to get with time and make games in timely manner and don't expect each of their game to sell 20 million, maybe watch your development budget

SE expected tomb raider to sell so well but it sold 3.4 which most games don't sell but it wasn't good enough.

maybe instead of including useless content like online MP which is generic maybe they can concentrate on single player and making it bigger and better

[Kenshin_BATT0USAI]

"so PG should really watch what they are saying, and this time around no one can use the excuse that ps4 is hard to develop for "

I don't think they ever said that. If you referring to the shitty port of bayonetta than, Plat. actually didn't do that port. Vanquish faired much better in terms of how well it played on the PS3. Revengence too.

[cleft5]

Considering it wouldn't sell 2 copies if it wasn't being published by Nintendo, since no one else wanted to publish it, I think we all should be happy that the game will be made at all.

[Muerte2494]

the Wii U is having with games right now, I wouldn't be surprised if Bayonetta 2 actually sold on the system. I mean I plan on getting it for my Wii U, because it's so thirsty.

[CalvinKlein]

The only game taht ever sells what a publisher or developer wants seems to be Call of duty.

[iamlegend9999]

Read my mimd

[FamilyGuy]

Won't even matter, nintendo is already fronting the cost so theyre good either way

[OmegaSlayer]

Bayo2 is gonna flop and then be ported to other systems.
The IP is Sega's property, neither Nintendo's nor Platinum's.
So whoever thinks the game will stay exclusive will die in denial.

[ChickeyCantor]

Nintendo funded the project. Sega had hardly anything to do with it. I'm pretty sure in their collaboration contract Nintendo made sure they hold some rights to it.

You're in denial. If you really want to play it, buy a WiiU.

[Ck1x]

Go do some learning and then come back to these grown up discussions when you understand production credits, royalties, contracts and agreements. The man clearly stated that the exclusivity of Bayonetta 2 & W101 is up to Nintendo. So if Nintendo wants it to appear on other platforms then it will! Why is this so difficult for people to grasp and understand?

[ChickeyCantor]

Bayonetta didn't sell, period.
Which is a shame.

[OmegaSlayer]

Bioshock, Ninja Gaiden 2 and Mass Effect were funded by Microsoft.

@Ck1x
LOL you so funny.
I SPEAK because I DO REALLY know about this stuff, and for starters I tell you that you didn't even use a correct term, and you fire a lot of them and random.
The man clearly use a PR speech that you're so idiot and narrow to understand.

Please go brushing Barbie.
You really should feel shame to suggest to study what you DO NOT know.

And...if you're interested check
"International Copyright: Principles, Law, and Practice" by P. Goldstein and P. Bernt Hugenholtz, just to begin...NOT WIKIPEDIA or half hassed wrong stuff.

[Root]

Exactly

Plus the reason it didn't sell well was because they didn't advertise it and the fact it sold worse of the PS3 because the PS3 version was buggy.

Bayonetta 2 will be on other consoles some time or later. Just like Mass Effect and Ninja Gaiden 2

[Eyeco]

HA and you expect Bayonetta 2 to sell on the Wii-U ?

I'm not bashing Nintendo,Wii-U or it's owners owners, but historically only Nintendo games sell well on Nintendo platforms, look at hack and slash games on the Wii like No More Heroes, Madworld, Red Steel 2 those games barely or even failed to scratch Half a Million, and this is on an install base of 100 million consoles.

[THESHAUNZY]

I forsee Bayonetta 2 costs far less to develop on Wii U than PS4

[ftwrthtx]

They should have spent more time on MGR. The least they could have done is make the chapters they made as long as the chapters Kojima made.

[WildArmed]

I'm hoping for a fully fleshed out sequel to MGR from them.

I loved how a sword felt like a sword.
Just really too short of a game :(

Easily one of the best work I've played from Platinum Games.

[herbs]

Why the hell didn't MGR come to the Wii U?! The sword control feature would have been a perfect fit for both the Gamepads touch screen and motion+ controllers >_< So stupid.

[ziggurcat]

"“You’ll see us on the PS4 Eventually,” “Bayonetta Didn’t Sell What we Wanted it to”"

that's because you completely botched the port, you twits...

[_QQ_]

well ports for ps3 were difficult because sony made the dumbass mistake of going with the cell. Porting shouldn't be so much work, but i do agree if they wanted successful sales they should have put in the work.

[saoco]

i think sony's biggest mistake was the split ram and the gpu. not so much the cell processor. hell if it wasnt for the cell uncharted and many other wouldnt have looked the way they do.

[Skate-AK]

They outsourced it to SEGA. PG didn't make the PS3 version of Bayonetta. After that they started to personally develop for the PS3. Shows why Vanquish plays a lot closer to the 360 version.

[ZeekQuattro]

Didn't realize they did Vanquish. Now that's a game that deserved more attention.

[FamilyGuy]

So friggin true!

And they blame us for not buying their rushed. buggy, poor quality port.

The nerve.

[WiiUsauce]

who's fault is that? Sony's retarded cell processor is to blame, not Platinum Games.

[violents]

There were plenty of other devs that ported to ps3 just fine, so saying its sony's fault for using more complicated hardware is hardly an excuse in my book. If a job gets tough do you just half ass it, or should you put in a little extra effort to produce a quality product?

[Root]

Thiers....it's called hard work

You do it and it pays off

[DEATHxTHExKIDx]

If bayonetta 1 didn't sell well on 2 consoles with a big install base. I Doubt bayonetta 2 will do better on 1 console with an even smaller install base.

Bayonetta 2 is the one game that makes me consider getting a wiiU tho.

[_-EDMIX-_]

No worries. You'll see a port of it pretty damn soon. Like 6 to 12 months soon. LOL!

Sit tight.

[Kenshin_BATT0USAI]

Doubtful. Nintendo is paying for the development costs of the game. They got exclusive rights for it.

[saint_seya]

Vashlion:

Bayonetta sigma, with better graphics, more content.. mark my words :D

[Skate-AK]

It didn't even sell bad. They sold close to 2 million global. The game is over 3 years old and still selling. On the PSN store 157 people have rated the digital version. So at minimum 157 people have purchased the game since 1/29/2013. The digital 360 version got bought a minimum of 33,867 times since 2/22/2011. I don't think that is bad for an older game that quite a lot of people have already played.

[refocusedman]

I may be in the minority but, I just couldnt play bayonetta very long. The cheesy dialog was just too much for me to take remotely seriously. I sits on my mantle and just collects dust.

[Skate-AK]

For the majority the cheesy dialog and weird quirks are what gave the game it's charm. Although I could see how it could put-off or annoy someone. I started that game knowing that's how it was going to be. Beginning to end. Had to do the same thing with Lollipop Chainsaw and I think that is what helped me enjoy both games. I really think you should go back and try it. Bayonetta has some awesome enemy/boss design later in the game.

[nolifeking]

I just skipped the movies. The combats what I stayed for.

[ABizzel1]

@refocus

It never gets, but the combat and action is top tier. My advice play it on mute, or listen to some personal music while you play.

[Realplaya]

I bet a great deal of money Bayonetta sells like hot cakes.

[chasegarcia]

hot cakes ain't selling.

[Thatguy-310]

How much do you want to bet? What's the highest selling wii u game? Bayonetta didn't sell well on TWO consoles were the majority was core audience what makes you think is going to sell better on ONE console with a different audience.

[MasterCornholio]

To bad the ovens are not selling.

And besides 3rd party games tend to do bad on Nintendo consoles which is why many developers are not supporting the Wii U.

Motorola RAZR i

[DigitalRaptor]

Yeah... Pretty convinced Bayonetta 2 is coming to PS4/720.

or PS3/360 for that matter.

[SpitTake]

You realize it's Nintendo decision whether or not to port it to the PS4 and 720.

[DigitalRaptor]

I'm not so sure about that. I remember hearing from a certain bunch that the Mass Effect series to-PS3-porting was a Microsoft decision - turns out that wasn't true.

Care to link me regarding Nintendo having final say on Bayonetta 2? Thanks in advance.

[SpitTake]

www.tssznews dot com/2013/02/12/kamiya-ask-nint endo-about-bringing-bayonetta-2 -to-other-consoles/

[TheUndertaker85]

http://www.ign.com/articles...

http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed...

Just saying... Microsoft also published the first Mass Effect and thought they had exclusive rights(Or enough of a will to misinform consumers in hopes of better hardware/software sales) when the title in fact came to PS3 via another publisher(EA). Microsoft also believed that because they paid for the GTA IV DLC that the content would stay exclusive(Or again, chose to misinform consumers) when that content was also released later for PS3.

The fact is Nintendo could be hoping for the same thing to happen with Bayonetta 2. Paying X cost to promote it as being exclusive to the platform could help to push consumers to buy a WiiU & the game. The only people that actually know the full exclusivity deal are Nintendo & Platinum Games. You think either will outright say, "Oh, by the way, it's a timed exclusive"? Probably not.

[ABizzel1]

@SkyKing

Nintendo has no final say. Bayonetta is a Sega owned IP since Platinum was working under Sega at the time. Nintendo has exclusive rights and are paying for the publishing of the game. So if Sega wants it multiplat it's going to be multiplat.

[Neko_Mega]

Nintendo is spending more time marketing the 3DS more then the Wii U. An like COD, if they want to make alot of money. They need to not limit it to one console.

[gano]

Well thats good.
If Ninty got a hand in this, its exclusive.
Which is fine by me i'll be ready.
Wii u is awesome.

[izumo_lee]

'Bayonetta didn't sell what we wanted it to'.

I find this quote kinda funny actually. Platinum originally developed the game exclusively on the Xbox 360 which has failed in Japan. If it wasn't for Sega pushing for a multiplatform release the game would've sold even worst.

Platinum resisted to port the game to the PS3 thus letting Sega do possibly one of the worst port jobs this generation. Still despite the mediocre job on the port the PS3 version still sold the highest.

So don't complain to the gamers that a game didn't sell as much when your company barely cared at first for porting a game that sold better than the one you originally developed the game for.

Sure you kinda made up for it with Vanquish but that game was so short there wasn't barely any time to savor the game. Platinum is a good developer but in my eyes they still have to prove themselves to put 100% in all their games they do multiplatform.

[Autolycus88]

Kinda reminds me of sega and aliens: colonial marines.

[My_Name_BTW_Is_Dante]

Bayonetta was garbage so of course it's not going to sell well. If Bayonetta 2 will flop. Not because it's a Wii U exclusive, but because it's another mediocre Bayonetta game.

[knifefight]

Well, to be fair, a lot of garbage does sell well.

[DevilishSix]

If selling a little over 2 million combined on 360 and PS3 was disappointing to them, then I am afraid they will be really disappointed with Bayonetta 2's sales on the Wii U, because I don't see it selling over 2 mill.

[wishingW3L]

Wii U doesn't has many games so Bayonetta 2 might end up sparking the interest of many Wii U owners.

[pop-voxuli]

“You’ll see us on the PS4 Eventually,”

Yeah well if you plan on selling any games you'd better get there sooner than later.

[Sharius]

i don't know what is call but i feel that P+ studio lack something to make this company's game is must buy for me

something i call charming, before the MGR come out i feel really hype, they totally got me in the demo, but when the day of release come close, i feel like everything just disapear, so i cancel that game order and change to tomb raider

well, i don't say this game s*ck, i don't play this game yet so i don't comment anything, i'll Definitely pick that game someday and try this out but not until this have huge discount

[Salooh]

You crazy?. Since you liked the demo why didn't you buy the game ?. reviews were good. People loved it only the ones that didn't know how to play it. It's amazing. You must buy it. It's the best hack and slash game ever to me. The story is great and have a meaning not like other hack and slash games. You should have trusted your own feeling about it..

[prettyboy12]

yea gow wants a word with you BUDDY!!!everybody knows gow has the hack and slash crown...PERIOD!

[Salooh]

God of war is a great game but it's story sucks. Besides, MGR have different kind of gameplay. The story about politics and stuff like that so it's more complicated and interesting then God of war. You guys need to give it a chance. You have the chance to play both you know :) ..

[DivineAssault]

Ha! Thats their fault it didnt sell by doing a crappy port.. Or having allowing a dev company to do a crappy port.. They think it didnt sell well on PS3 but wait til part 2 hits wii u.. I guess it wont matter if nintendo is publishing it but i guarantee its going to be less

[Qrphe]

Although I doubt Bayonetta will sell as most would want it to, I also doubt it'll ever go multiplatform.

[abzdine]

i dont like Bayonetta give me some Vanquish awesomeness on PS4 please!!

[PirateThom]

All of Platinum's games sell like crap though.... it's not that they're bad, it's just how it is. See also: Clover Studios,

I don't know why anyone is expecting Bayonetta 2 to do amazing numbers when their other games, most of which are on 2 consoles with much large install bases, sell way less than a million copies

[Ck1x]

If Bayonetta 1 was such a horrible game, then why are you guys so upset and bothered that Bayo 2 isn't coming to your console of choice?
Sony or Microsoft could have stepped up and done what Nintendo did, so lets just stop crying over spilled milk now children...

[Autolycus88]

So they are complaining about bayonetta not selling well, so they put its sequel on a system that does not have the biggest market and has a history of not selling third party titles. Way to go platinum games.

[o-Sunny-o]

I own Wii U and I don't want to play this game. Sorry I couldn't get interested in it.

[josephayal]

I fully expect to see Bayonetta 2 on 360 and PS3 very soon

[younghavok]

They arent paying to make Bayonetta 2 so Im sure they arent too concerned with sales.

[jon1234]

these guys suck... they cant program a damn camera to let you see the action going on around you!

[jay2]

I'll need to buy new Wii u just for Bay 2.