Root4021d ago

AKA - "I've realised how much more money I can make for me and my company if I were to release games on both platforms"

TopDudeMan4021d ago

Before the fanboys get all pissed at him, can you really blame the guy? He's just doing his job.

GrandTheftZamboni4021d ago

He can do his job as long as they increase budget for the other platform. Otherwise the game will suffer on both.

JohnnyBadfinger4021d ago

What do you mean increase the budget?
The ps4 and next Xbox will be near identical, a simple port is all that is needed.

zebramocha4021d ago (Edited 4021d ago )

Did anyone read the article? Kojima san is talking about cloud gaming and the arthour is twisting his words, drawing these conclusions based of off mgs rising and phantom pain being multiplats.

Guwapo774021d ago

@ JohnnyBadfinger -

How do you know this? Nothing has been announced for Xbox. While the hardware is made by the same company, doesn't mean they interact the same. Which we already know they don't. Secondly, the OS are totally different. Easy of portability is unknown at this time.

morganfell4021d ago

As soon as Kojima went from head of KojiPro to a Konami exec his focus changed and gamers are the poorer for it.

Platform exclusivity allows a developer to avail themselves of all of that system's features and push it to the limit rather than compromise for the sake of parity...and developers these days will compromise. They did not last gen but that is now ancient history. They are so afraid of offending one party. Sales rather than creativity is the rule of thumb and you Kojima are a lesser man for it and your work a shadow of what it might have been.

Crow all you like about his art reaching more people but the moment money decides your direction it is no longer art.

This is why MGS4 stands as a landmark achievement. One that Kojima will never reach again given his current mindset.

You can try to be all things to all people but at the end of the day you will be nothing to no one. Every moment spent on multiplatfor is a moment that could have been spent pushing a single system to the wall.

kwyjibo4021d ago

@morganfell

If exclusivity was about pushing platforms to the limit, he'd have gone PC-only.

Exclusivity is about getting a bucketload of cash from the platform holder.

Army_of_Darkness4021d ago

Kojima loves Sony, but he loves money more...
Eventually, everyone breaks and gives into it.

As long as his games still turn out very good then I won't have a problem with this.

MaxXAttaxX4021d ago

Not true. Whose limit are we talking about here? All PCs are practically different.
Developers have to make PC games to work on a wide range of specs.
You cannot optimize games for PC anywhere near as well as for consoles. Sorry.

kwyjibo4021d ago

@NathanExplosion

That wasn't the point. I was making a response to a claim that exclusivity was down to developers wanting to push the limit, and not the glaringly obvious marketing support and other kickbacks from the platform holder.

If you really want to push the limits, you don't give a crap about "a wide range of specs", you don't give a crap about multiplatform. You just build the best thing possible, and hope you make money somehow.

Crytek managed it in 2007, haven't managed it since.

zeee4021d ago

His comments indicate that SONY and M$ will both of game streaming services. I mean, we already know GAKAI will be there on PS4 but so far, we haven't heard of such a thing for 720. I believe M$ will also have a GAKAI-like gaming service which leads me to wonder about the future of Nintendo.

Really, we need all three companies making a decent profit. Competition only benefits us and our wallets :)

NastyLeftHook04021d ago

fanboy or not the truth is you can only get the whole story (metal gear solid 4 ) on a sony console. so if you did not own a ps3 you missed the story and missed out.

BullyMangler4021d ago

so MGS -V- no on wiiU?, because wiiU game-pad is no good and only a gimmick so Metal Gear Solid V would not be a FUNNER experience on wiiU rather than the other 2 ? (:

_QQ_4021d ago

you also can't get the entire story without the NES a nintendo console (metal gear1, metal gear2).

Diver4021d ago

#lopez,

My version of mgs3 included mg1 and mg2. All you have to do is beat mgs3 and it unlocks those original games.

-Alpha4021d ago (Edited 4021d ago )

@Nathan

That's a silly excuse and it doesn't even make sense. So what if there is a diversity of specs? A good developer will know how to manage hardware and still push a platform to the limits. If exclusivity= better creativity, then a PC is just a viable platform, especially over 7+ year old hardware. It just sounds like you guys can't stand to see this go outside of a Playstation platform

All I see is people bitter that this is going multiplatform. We haven't even seen the scope of the game, and already people like morgan are knocking the game for lacking creativity?

Sounds like you guys just have a problem with this not remaining a PS exclusive, I doubt people would be pushing this exclusivity/creativity argument so hard if it was Xbox exclusive, and apparently there's already an excuse for PC exclusivity.

Then there's the "MGS=Playstation" argument which is just as silly.

MikePhoenix4021d ago

One wouldn't be a fan if they got mad at him for this. His epic games, his preferences. But it is best to build a game around the best system especially as epic as the Metal Gear Solid series.

MaxXAttaxX4021d ago (Edited 4021d ago )

Thanks for putting words in my mouth. I liked kwyjibo's response better.
I don't mind games being multiplatform. And if you read again, you'll notice that I never mentioned PlayStation or MGS and neither did Kojima lol.

_-EDMIX-_4021d ago (Edited 4021d ago )

I think Kojima sees that he can make MGS on more then one system with this new Fox Engine. Realistically, why not?

Look at it this way, Kojima is not just some developer that jumps on any system to make more money. He made MGS4 exclusive because of the hardware, mainly because of the space Bluray could allow.

Now I truly believe Kojima would make a MGS on more then one system IF IT COULD REALLY BE THE SAME ON ALL OF THEM! This is why Fox engine was made.

To say otherwise is just silly. If he can pull it off...why not? As a die hard MGS fan, I only want to see it on one platform IF it was to be gimped if on another ie FFXIII and GTAIV gimped.

I'm ok with his choice, have some of you SEEN FOX ENGINE?! Its pretty damn impressive, mind you MGS5 will be open world like MGS3, clearly the 360 is not gimping this game (he must have got them to do an install like what Rockstar most likely did for GTAV...I mean, I see no damn way that game is fitting on one disk LOL)

Kojima deserves this, its time he gets his!

nukeitall4021d ago (Edited 4021d ago )

I find it hilarious that people get so upset, especially morganfell.

What most of you still don't get is, people need to live and survive and for that, one needs *MONEY*. Over 99.9999999999% of the people care about money and the rest? They aren't here so deal with it!

If you didn't care about money and only "art" you would have all paid several times over for Kojima's game so he can go make it exclusive and still be able to pay his employees.

I bet you if Kojima raised his games $10 all you would be all over his case and b*tch and moan about how greedy he is.

But who is greedy? The one wanting the cake and eat it too?

sikbeta4021d ago

MGS is too big to be platform exclusive, so good news ;)

nypifisel4021d ago

@lopez_josue

Actually he NES games pretty much have nothing to do with Kojimas original games which both came out on the MSX2. If you want to know the full story, play those games and not the NES versions where the first one was a butchered port missing many things from the MSX original and the second NES game (Snakes revenge) having nothing to do with Kojima. Both MSX originals can be found on the Metal Gear Solid HD Collection (They are really great games so everyone should play them)

Konami being a Japanese company will still design their games for the PS4 so don't worry everyone, the Xbox will get the port.

givemeshelter4021d ago (Edited 4021d ago )

@morganfell

Your comment is because you work for Sony. Your opinion is pointless in this thread to be honest.
You claim a developer should stick to console exclusivity? I wonder if tomorrow Kojima said he was going to make his games exclusive to Nintendo only or Microsoft, WOULD YOU be saying the same thing as you are saying now... That was a rhetorical question as we already know the answer coming from you...

loulou4020d ago

and with metal gear solid going multi, that is the end of AAA third party exclusives.... unless companies are willing to pay bucketloads.

when mass effect went multi n4g exploded with orgasmic fanboys. now mgs is confirmed multi, the fanboys are not quite so pleased!

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Timesplitter144021d ago (Edited 4021d ago )

AKA "I am making a baffling use of common sense since more money is generally better than less money, not to mention that this will give me a broader audience and they'll get to see what I've spent so much time working on"

Meanwhile, on the internet, some special little snowflakes are complaining because they won't be the only ones in the world who get to play MGS

arronax-14021d ago

Well can you tell me what is the point of having both Xbox and Playstation if they can't have exclusives to define themselves? At that point, you might as well go to PC then.

Timesplitter144021d ago (Edited 4021d ago )

Can you tell me why it would be Kojima's responsibility to make exclusives for the playstation? If Sony or MS want exclusives for their consoles, it's their job to make that happen. They can't expect 3rd parties to make exclusives for certain consoles "just because".

Console loyalty might be a really important thing to many teenage gamers, but it means nothing to grown men. And Kojima is a grown man.

And to answer your question : There is no "point" in having both PS and Xbox. Why would there necessarily be a point? There are multiple consoles because different companies want to compete. That's all there is to it

Gazondaily4021d ago

Extremely well said in both posts

Aceman184021d ago

true its only smart that 3rd party devs support all systems, but in the case of the Metal Gear Solid series i don't think it would matter if its on both take a look at Metal Gear Rising

on PS3 its sitting at just under 900k
on 360 its barely over 200k

the game is basically dead on 360, and i have the crazy feeling that when the next MGS games release it wont sell much on microsoft system.

CommonSenseGamer4021d ago

Wow, if 200k is dead then what does that mean for most games on the Vita?

However, 200k is not great but then again MGR was not a system selling game by any stretch.

Salooh4021d ago (Edited 4021d ago )

MGR is a great game. Get over your selfs with the sales. All i care is that i enjoyed a game like that and i want more of it. Why do you care about sales ?. Let Kojima worry about it and go buy the game and play it..

Besides, They already said that they are satisfied with the results of MGR and he even considering to creat another spin off himself..

Skips4021d ago (Edited 4021d ago )

@CommonSenseGamer

"Wow, if 200k is dead then what does that mean for most games on the Vita?"

You seriously comparing sales (and not to mention taking install base into account) of the 360 to PSVita?!? LMFAO!! Wow dude, just WOW.

360 install base = around 80 million.
PSVita install base = around 5 million.

200,000 out of 80 million.
200,000 out of 5 million.

Eyeco4021d ago (Edited 4021d ago )

Considering that mgs games usually sell anywhere between 3-7million 200k is rather poor, funny seeing as you call yourself commonsensegame

Zhipp4021d ago

Well, firstly, MGR is a spinoff title in a completely different genre from MGS. Games like Metal Gear Rising, DMC, Bayonetta, etc. generally sell much better on the PS3. Compound that with the fact that pretty much the entire Metal Gear fanbase owns a PS3, and you can see how those numbers came about.
That said, look at the HD Collection. 500k sales on Xbox 360 shows that Xbox users do have some interest in the main series.

_-EDMIX-_4021d ago

A lot has to be looked at with that. First This isn't really a main MGS game. Second, 360 fans don't really know much about MGS, really now. If your a die hard MGS fan...you own a PS3.

Another thing to note is now that MGSR and the MGS collection are on 360, putting MGS5 on 360 at least makes some damn sense.

Hey if its not gimped like GTAIV, I'm fine with it on 3 systems.

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Knight_Crawler4021d ago

Well this was pretty much confirmed a long time ago when one of the big 3 said that 3rd party exclusives are a thing of the past.

Makes you wonder if Alan Wake will be exclusive next gen.

GrandTheftZamboni4021d ago

If one system sells 20 million and others sell 1 million, there will be 3rd party exclusives. It's all about money either way.

dcbronco4021d ago

If the architectures were really different again I'd agree with that. But this gen will have very similar tech. Ports will be easy so there will be no reason not to support all systems with comparable power.

Donnieboi4021d ago (Edited 4021d ago )

I just want more info about Metal Gear Online 3. And a release date for MGS V.

blackbeld4021d ago (Edited 4021d ago )

Wow

“It’s a tough question to answer. Obviously, I do like Sony, I respect them and I have a lot of things in common with their way of thinking. I think the future of gaming is with cloud technology and cloud gaming. I love Sony, I have a Sony camera, but I think if you’re going to enter the cloud generation then there will be a lot of different devices involved and a lot of different ways to interact with that game world. I don’t want to limit it to any one platform, but I’m not going to say I’m not going to participate in the events. This time [for the PlayStation Meeting], I kind of would have liked to participate, but I was here tending to Rising’s world tour.”

Whatever.

So Kojima you lost your love for Sony brand. :(

This is a big blow for Sony.

Looks like I should skip MGS 5 too. I bought FF13 and it was a big disappointment.

specialguest4021d ago

I hope you not only skip mgs 5, but permanently ban yourself from all future Kojima games.

SHORYUKEN4021d ago

@Blackbeld

True FF13 was a big disappointment.

@specialguest.

There is no LOL. Downgrading AAA games to average games like FF13.

specialguest4021d ago (Edited 4021d ago )

FF13 was bound to be a disappointment regardless of it going multiplatform. The core gameplay and direction would have still been the same, because it was already written, planned, and directed that way. Don't kid yourself, this is the new Square Enix.

There's too many of you fake fans out there. The moment a once exclusive or semi-exclusive(MGS was never truly exclusive) developer goes multiplatform, suddenly you vow to never buy their game.

Root4021d ago

I'd only be p***** at the multiplatform release IF I find out AFTER they are both released that Kojima could of done more with the PS4 if he'd kept it an exclusive.

Thats the only reason I would be mad because I feel like Kojima could do a better job when he focuses on what platform..

Brucis4021d ago

>I bought one exclusive-gone-multiplat and got burned
>now I'm going to not buy another one because of it

Just wait til there's gameplay or rent it first. Problem solved.

SHORYUKEN4021d ago

@specialguest

Really Kojima is loosing grip.

Also MGS 5 voice actor David Hayter is not in the game as Solid Snake.

The Metal Gear series will following FF13 route.

Imalwaysright4021d ago

1st - You are NOT a MGS fan. If you were you wouldn't give 2 shits if its going multiplatform or not.

2nd - specialguest is absolutely right. FF13 would have been shit regardless if it was exclusive or not. There are much better FF games on much worse hardware than the 360. The only downgrade that has happened in FF as franchise is the quality of the development team that is making it.

3rd - SHORYUKEN So MGS quality has everything to do with a voice actor and nothing to do with the development team?

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Clarence4021d ago

Xbox fans don't buy MGS games. MG Rising on the 360 did not sell well.

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humbleopinion4021d ago

MG Rising is not an MGS game - see the lacking S?

Also, it's a spinoff made by another studio going off track, and then salvaged by a third studio just so the game could be released. It didn't have a marketing push even close to MGS4, it's over shadowed by another MGS game which was already announced, critically it was poorly received, it's in completely different genre (H&S, where it's basically competing with DMC which was released in the same timeframe), unlike MGS4 it has no online component, it has a convoluted plot that doesn't make sense for people new to the series, and the demo was mediocre.
Even on the PS3 it sold a fraction of what MGS did. Seriously, what did you expect?

WitWolfy4021d ago

@Blasphemy
Speak for yourself! I have both PS3 and 360 and I own the MGS HD collection on both systems!

So saying something like that is just plain stupid and ignorant!

abzdine4021d ago (Edited 4021d ago )

for me exclusivity makes me curious about the game.

A game is exclusive because it's special in some way, add to that the fact that an exclusive game to one platform is much more optimized technically than the same multplatform game.

And if you read the article smart guy, you'd realize he's talking about cloud gaming with interactions with different platforms like phones tablets PC... on top of that a combo PS4/Vita could also benefit from a common project using Gaikai tech

_QQ_4021d ago

ReadDead,Bioshock,Bioshock infinite,Farcry3,GTA. what was that about exclusives being better than third party? an amazing game is an amazing game whether it is exclusive or not

Kran4021d ago

Thats uh... how you get by in the industry...

nothing wrong with that statement if he had said it... :/

gintoki7774021d ago

Also more money for him means more games from him for us. If he is a quality video game producer it will not matter what platform it is on. So the only people that have a problem is people who still care about exclusivity which is a selling point for gamers who buy and play consoles.

If he releases Zone of Enders 3 are you really not going to play it because it is also on Xbox if it still looks and plays great?

Let Kojima release some a few multiplats before you bash him. More money will be a test of character.

fullmetal2974021d ago (Edited 4021d ago )

DICE has done that amazingly well with PC being the lead platform for Battlefield 3. It performs very across most mid to high level video cards and it has near perfect SLI and Crossfire scaling with performance doubling with two cards. You rarely see that with most games.

solar4021d ago

oh another example to make the PS extremists to poop their diapers. gaming is about money nowadays. our great bastion is on 7-11 cups and talked about on network tv. mainstream destroys everything. and Mr. Kojima is just another kog in that machine that spits out $.

best part is, the PS extremists think loyalty exists. you fools.

miDnIghtEr20C_SfF4021d ago

AKA-AKA.... I know how much more third party games sell on the Xbox, and I/we want some of that cash!

But wait, the Xbox has no games. Weird someone would want to go multiplat.

Not.

3-4-54021d ago

How did it take him that long....it's literally like a 1/2 second thought process via deductive reasoning.

It's not hard/ difficult.

iamlegend99994021d ago

AKA - "I got a heart and want all gamers to experience my awesome games."

thechosenone4021d ago

he has money and I'm sure a bit more won't hurt but I think what he's more concerned with now is his legacy at this stage in his life.

ijust2good4021d ago

This will hurt Sony fanboys the most to see there precious snake character in other platform.

PopRocks3594021d ago

It already happened. Twin Snakes was on the Gamecube and Metal Gear Solid 2 was on the Xbox at some point.

AO1JMM4021d ago

Truth, but that is not a bad thing.

CEOSteveBallmer4021d ago

I own only a PS3 but it's no longer a big deal to me if the next MGS is a multiplat expecially phantom pain. But earlier in the PS3 days MGS4 is a big deal to us. But now its okay for me for Xbox fans to experience Metal gear. So All xbox fans know that not all PS3 fans are narrow-headed fools. We are gamers after all

EditorAtGNG4021d ago

Why the bloody hell not? I mean, I can understand the power of exclusives and their role in the creation of a console fanbase but you can't blame a developer for wanting to "share" his games with a wider audience. Yes, yes, money sure are a potent factor as well but that's a no brainer these days.

Mr_Writer854021d ago (Edited 4021d ago )

@ kwyjibo

Expect they didnt make the best game they could.

The AI was awful

The story was poor and paper thin.

The gameplay was bland.

Graphics alone don't make a game.

GDDR6_20144020d ago

Nothing wrong with that. Console fanboys are asking a lot of third party developers to make exclusives, what do they get out of it? Give up significant income to make some console fanboys happy?

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PirateThom4021d ago

He's also trying to sell a multiplatform engine at the moment which doesn't really work if you only produce games for one platform.

GalacticEmpire4021d ago (Edited 4021d ago )

Worked for Epic, although they did produce a lot of multi-plats too.

@below - True, guess they have something to prove.

PirateThom4021d ago

Unreal Engine was also a go to engine anyway. Kojima is trying to make FOX Engine the same as Unreal and be a go to for third parties for development. I think Metal Gear and being multiplatform is the only way to show what the engine can do.

Prcko4021d ago (Edited 4021d ago )

no ps exclusive games from Kojima anymore

Root4021d ago (Edited 4021d ago )

Never say Never

It would be nice to see what he could do using the PS4 tec after how good MGS4 looked on the PS3.

I mean it's like that for a lot of devs you always wonder what it would be like if they focused on a game for X platform.

For this gen mine was to see Rockstar making an exclusive open world game for the PS3 since we never seem to got one from any other first party studio, just so I could see what they could squeeze out of it.....AGENT could of been amazing.

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@Minato-Namikaze

You could say it's an open world game but I mean in the same form as GTA. Where you can get into vehicles and roam around in different ways and have fun.

_QQ_4021d ago

ps4/720 will be the pretty much the same specs. What would be interesting though is an MGS game on a high end pc on max settings. even if it is multiplat.

MikeMyers4021d ago (Edited 4021d ago )

You mention Rockstar but neglected to tell us how it was better on the PC. Imagine how the next MGS game would have been if it were exclusive to the PC platform and not the PS3 and Xbox 360. Or even GTA V.

It's always amusing seeing console fans argue with one another about power when the PC actually shows the difference. It's like watching car enthusiasts argue about Ford versus Chevy products while ignoring the luxury cars like Porsche and Ferrari.

Needless to say it's better for consumers to have more games multiplatform, that way you're not tied to one system. It also makes more sense from a business perspective, especially considering the cost to make these games and how even the marketshare now is since the PS2 generation.

whoyouwit044021d ago

Whats so sad about them wanting make more money, and them giving other gamers the opportunity to play a game
they previously couldn't.

LordHiggens4021d ago

Because going from exclusive to non-exclusive means a huge loss of potential...especially for a masterpiece such as Metal Gear...

Past Example

Final Fantasy XIII

Unlimax4021d ago

Totally agree with you LordHiggens !

TheRealHeisenberg4021d ago

totally disagree with you
L Higgens.

fullmetal2974021d ago

I disagree with you. I have seen plenty of PC only developers move over to consoles and the quality of their games are still good. Recent examples would be Crytek and the Crysis Series, DICE and the Battlefield franchise, as well as every Valve game ever made.

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NBT914021d ago

As a fan of the series and Playstation, even I have to say the argument of MGS going multiplat "limiting the potential" is a load of crap.
Have you SEEN MGSV?! Doesn't look like it lost any potential to me...

Ayabrea1234021d ago

*Seen* Not *Played*. Remember we all thought the same thing for Final Fantasy XIII and well.. Look what happened.

I'm not saying MGS will be bad but when games go multi.. They lose what made it special. Mass effect was a great game and then 3 came out which practically almost tarnished the entire game. Imagine if gears or halo went multi.... Every masterpiece that made it special is now gone

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thorstein68d ago

That is a fantastic interview. Physint is a love letter to the fans. What a legend.

YourMommySpoils67d ago

I'm guessing OD will also be coming to PlayStation, as the trailer states for all players lol

RhinoGamer8867d ago

Love to know how much he works on a game. 10% effort --- 90% credit

F0XH0UND92267d ago

Ever see the credits of a Kojima game? The guy is a machine and does so much for his projects.

Trilithon67d ago

hes a decision maker. people don't always agree. but at least he has made a decision. imagine how many execs wanting the main characters outfit to have flowers cause their daughter likes flowers. this the power of being independent. only the real fans breathing down his neck

WelkinCole67d ago

I really really miss MSG. For me its not a PS gen if there is no MSG. So this news is a God send for me.

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contra15767d ago (Edited 67d ago )

Give us something new kojima