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Console gaming has become worse than PC gaming

Console gaming used to be cheaper, more convenient, and reliable--at least until the current generation arrived. Now, it's worse than PC gaming. Here's why.

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4020d ago Replies(7)
MariaHelFutura4020d ago (Edited 4020d ago )

Lol, No. This is getting more and more ridiculous the more we hear about the next gen consoles.

nix4020d ago

give me god of war series, the last of us, little big planet series, uncharted series, yakuza, gran turismo, infamous series, Resistance series, MGS, ICO, Killzone series, Motorstorm series, Yakuza series, Heavenly Sword, Folklore etc on PC.. i'll shift with my eyes closed... until then.

plus i find console logistic more simple. buy one and use it for years to come. no upgrades. no nothing. i agree they break (just like my PS3 broke last weekend) but that was after like 5 years. yeah.. i am sad. for now Vita is gonna keep me busy. and Vita is another beast. i want every PS3 games on it.

XB1_PS44020d ago

Give me Day-z, Sim City, Leaugue of Legends, Starcraft II, Dota II, Elder Scrolls Online, Smite, KOTOR, Torchlight, Company of heroes, and Thousands of quality indie games on Consoles..

It works both ways dude. There are, and always will be pros and cons to the Console vs. Pc war.

T9004020d ago (Edited 4020d ago )

@nix

unfortunately for the PS4 none of those games will be on it, at launch anyways. Its going to have to build the library over years. Essentially PS4 will start life with 0 games.

PC has a library ready and set to go as of today and it can only get bigger as the next consoles arrive. It literally has 1000's of games on board.

Console gaming library is pretty small when you think about it compared to PC and in the end thats what really matters. New consoles hardly will have any games.

Its not hard getting a PS4 for those exclusives by the way. I am sure Sony will release 2-3 of those 8 hours games every year. No biggie get a console for those. No point compromising the entire multiplat library over those few games. Might as well buy them on the platform where you really can build a library.

PS: some of those PS exclusives are already there on the PC via PS2 emulation. Again unfortunately its the next PS that wont be playing em.

MadLad4020d ago (Edited 4020d ago )

How about all the fantastic games that are only on pc?
Oh . . . that's right. They don't have Sony on the case, therefor you don't consider them good and you don't care.

Sy_Wolf4020d ago

@sofresh412 Day-Z is headed to consoles and if you have no interest in most of the PC exclusives why bother building a gaming PC? I love both so I have both, but I know lots of people who just don't care about the vast majority of PC exclusives. Also, I wouldn't mention Sim City 3 as a reason to get a PC...

Tr10wn4020d ago (Edited 4020d ago )

Not to mention all the other free to play games the PC has to offer like Warthunder, Warface, Warframe, Loaded, Firefall, Neverwinter, Hawken, PlanetSide 2, Tribes, Smite and all the others f2p games out there, right now you can't compete with PC gaming, it has better hardware and it has free games and good quality games like Planetside 2 Hawken and Warthunder, then you got all the MMO's out there and the best race simulation and if that isnt enough you can mod your games so you can play Skyrim with next gen graphics or the unique experience of DayZ.

@Sy_Wolf

Rocket said there is a chance it will be on consoles if the games sell well on PC and he said that Sony i think did the approach beside that it still a PC only game

The_KELRaTH4020d ago

These days I find my PS3 Slim freezes / locks up far far more than my PC does. Now that's not to say it was always the case but I feel that the PC drivers have matured a lot.
Then there's the argument of cost; well I'm on my 2nd PS3 but my PC has remained much the same when put together some 5 years ago (3Ghz dual Core/8800GT512/4GB ram) and while I can't play some new games with all the visual features on there's not one game that doesn't look far better than the PS3 games - mostly due to anti-aliasing, very little texture compression, decent draw distances.

While I liked the frontend menus of the PS3 and adding a theme these days it's been taken over with links that take up most of the screen and more recently blasted adverts - it's virtually pointless using a theme now and knowing I have no control over this reminds me how much nicer the PC is to use these days - why does Sony think I'm unable to use a subdirectory to click for psn store etc as with settings!!

Don't get me wrong I enjoy using the PS3 and there's been some great unique games but today I was playing UT99 with extreme hi-res textures and a new Nali Weapons mod and C&C Generals Zero hour - both games older than the PS3 (UT99=14yrs). Both look and play fantastic even today and both genres just don't play well on consoles due to the simple inflexibility of not supporting keyboard and mouse/trackball.

yewles14020d ago

@OpenGL

"Some games on PS3 like Gran Turismo 5: Prologue..."

Stop right there, GT5P could most certainly be played w/o logging in to PSN. Now you're getting silly...

Ducky4020d ago

^ You should've read his entire sentence.
GT5:Prologue requires online if you buy the digital version.

KimDongHwan4020d ago

people who like MMOs and Strategy games, build a PC, people who like all the other genres buy a home console, people who love both, build a PC and buy a home console.

Dee_914020d ago

lmao @ t900
his comments never cease to amaze me.just quit dude its so obvious now

faraany33k4020d ago

The amount of like/dislike disparity clearly shows N4G is filled with console fanboys. If SONY has some exclusives then PC has many great exclusives too. Infact the exclusives like on PC are so rare that they are not even found on other consoles.

If PS3 has Last of Us then Xbox/PC has Left4Dead series. If SONY has UNcharted, then MS XBOX has Gears of War.

But both these consoles cannopt run games like Starcraft 2, Simcity, DOTA2 and many others.

PersonMan4019d ago

Replying to sofresh412

None of those games you listed interests me.

They're nothing like the games nix listed.

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Aaroncls74020d ago

Will this nonsense ever end?

It's about the games! It has always been.

If you are a gamer you see all of them as platforms, cunduits to exhilarating experiences with varying playstyles and different social communities.

We are lucky to have these many options; let the companies fight between themselves for our coin and try not to be manipulated by media sensasionalisations.

Don't hate on your own kind by being a prejudicial drone.

It's pointless, rediculously stupid and it makes you look like a fanboy every single time.

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TitanUp4020d ago

free, awesome deals, easier messaging system, not cluttered with endless menus to flip through.You can buy games that came out a year ago for $5 on Steam, and Xbox Live tries to sell last gen games for $20. Both services have an online storefront, but Steam's storefront is easier to navigate. In addition, they are more upfront about game details than Xbox Live. Also, Steam offers better gaming previews with footage of almost all of the games whereas Xbox Live only does this for select titles.

-Free
-Dedicated servers >>>>>> P2P
-Cheap games
-Steam Cloud
-Less Advertising
-Custom community groups for anything

Best to play video games on a pc.

Nyromith4020d ago

Steam? That almost-always-online service that requires an intrusive third party client to be installed on your computer and reserve itself the right to confiscate everything you bought? No thanks.

I had to move to consoles a yea ago because I realized that Steam-free gaming on the PC is not possible anymore - even physical disks are encrypted with Steam. Even worse, when game publishers and Microsoft realized how easily PC gamers betrayed all their principles for cheaper prices, now console gamers have to fight a desperate war not to allow those rotten services take hold on the console market.

You may choke with your Steam DRM and always online crap like Diablo 3 and SimCity (that sold millions), I'm staying with my console. I prefer slightly worse graphics and more expensive prices to intrusive services and DRM.

decrypt4020d ago

So instead you prefer console DRM. Which restricts you from playing any of your old games on the next machine.

You pretty much have 0% chance of playing a PS3 game on a PS4. At least on PC you can play your old games many many years later.

Alos884020d ago

I wouldn't consider that DRM, DRM is something added for a specific purpose, the PS4's inability to play old games was an unfortunate inevitability given they were no longer using the Cell processor.

OpenGL4020d ago

I've had my Steam account since 2004 and every game I purchased then will be playable forever and the service as a whole has been very convenient.

PS4 on the other hand is making all of my PS3 PSN purchases irrelevant, hardly convenient and much worse than Steam's DRM, which by the way works in offline mode. Some games on PS3 like Gran Turismo 5: Prologue and Warhawk cannot be launched without connecting to PSN if you don't own the physical version(yes Warhawk can be played offline in split-screen), so the PS3 already has always-on DRM for some games.

zebramocha4020d ago (Edited 4020d ago )

@decrypt a generation for a pc gpu is 2 years,console are fixed hardware, they can't improve technologically with out making cut backs in some areas to have a better system over all.

@OpenGL not sure about gt but warhawk is a multiplayer game so that comparison doesn't make sense as there is no single player component.

Nyromith4020d ago

Consoles almost always have a different architecture each gen, and the lack of backward compatibility is an unfortunate side effect of that. Believe me, if Sony could easily add backward compatibility to the PS4 (and PS3) they would gladly do it. PC, on the other hand, has the same Windows and the same x86 architecture since 95, so backward compatibility is a non-brainer. And yet, sometimes you have to struggle to run old games.

Steam, on the other hand, is a completely artificial barrier that stand between the software - the game, and the hardware - the PC. When I purchase a [physical] console game and I have the hardware - that's it. I don't need to call the shop I bought the game from and ask a permission to run it. This is one of the reasons people are so mad at Microsoft - they want to add that artificial barrier to the Xbox 720, because they see that PC gamers so happily accepted it.

fermcr4020d ago (Edited 4020d ago )

@ Nyromith
"Believe me, if Sony could easily add backward compatibility to the PS4 (and PS3) they would gladly do it"

Actually no, they don't want BC on their new consoles. It's not profitable to Sony. Sony want's to sell the same game again and again. That's what happened this generation and that's what's going to happened next gen with the PS4.

...and for Steam being always online, it's not true. For single player games you only have to install it and play it once (to activate), then you can play your steam single player game offline any time you want.

Oh_Yeah4020d ago (Edited 4020d ago )

@Nyromith the cfw scene recently got backwards compatibility to work with "non backwards compatible consoles", almost all games...Google it yourself, PS2 classics manager. That is something Sony should have offered for free...A way to to rip your old games and convert into PS2 classic format but no they charge you for your game again. Sony could easily come up with something similar for PS4 to play PS3 games. There's no such thing as non backwards compatible in this day in age with the tech available.. but there certainly is a such thing as greed.

extermin8or4020d ago

tell that to max payne 3... amongst others... and actually Sony would have added ps3 backwards compatibility at least in launch consoles if they could if for no other reason than, that in Japana such a feature is very important to them. However it really isn't currentlly possible to emulate the cell using x86 architecture- not at the moment anyway..

elmaton984020d ago

I dont care what you guys say im getting a ps4 day one since gaming on consoles is what I actually like and not on pc, and if I want to game on pc ill just buy my games on it dont you think

specialagent45324020d ago

STEAM is an open service it allows gamers to run their own mods and servers. Extremely cheap games and simplified modding via steamworks just point and click the mod you want hassle free. Is just a better service than what you get on PSN or xbox live

Kenshin_BATT0USAI4020d ago

You're definitely the type of person who has never used Steam before. I don't know of a single person who uses it and dislikes it. That aside, you don't HAVE TO BE online to play games on your steam account. Time and time again people make this stupid mistake.

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Clarence4020d ago

No thanks been there done that. IMO consoles are the best.

Ragthorn4020d ago (Edited 4020d ago )

Not to be rude or anything, but why do you think consoles are the best? Just asking, not going to be hostile towards your opinion.
Edit: Why the disagree, just asking lol.

Trunkz4020d ago

Why are people even comparing Consoles to PC's, why don't we just compare Vita and 3DS to Iphones and Androids now....

guerojose4020d ago

Agreed that the state of consoles has worsened, though not that PCs are any better. These days no console game is ever "finished", and the constant system updates makes one pine for the good ol' days when a console was locked down. But he left out the primary cause: the consumer has also gotten a lot worse. Conditioned by years of atrocious PC software and OSes, they simply accept and buy any form of abuse. In-game advertising, games shipped as beta tests, everything-as-a-service, patched-patches, and now a whole new set of invasive abuses on the horizon. This situation only exists because so many are willing to suck it down and cough it up.

specialagent45324020d ago

Thank you that's what I been trying to say. It started on the pc with CD keys, long ass hour installation games onto the pc hard drive. Endless patches, freezing and crashing games. Until now that PC gamers said enough is enough. That's what console gamers need to do is to stand up and not put up with the bs of these corporations.

Flavor4020d ago

There is really no argument about what is the more feature rich platform (PC), the only advantage that consoles have is the price of entry. I own a 360 for exclusives and all I have to say is 'eighty dollar controllers'. And the games all look fuzzy.

The PC is an open platform with limitless possibilities, better input devices, superior networking, and can also help you do your taxes and make 3D models for work. And watch movies. And shop any store. surf the internet. All for no additional 'subscription' cost over your internet bill.

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PlayStation 3 Games That Desperately Need a PS5 Remaster

The PlayStation 3 may not have been the strongest generation for Sony, but there were still some diamonds in the rough that deserve a revisit as PS5 remasters.

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OtterX38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

Even if they could just remaster and put on PSVR2, some would still look great as VR titles and could do a whole lot to bolster the headset w these exclusives! I'd imagine the investment of reworking these titles into VR would be way less than building new games from the ground up, and they could be amazing experiences, and VR often makes flat games feel fresh again. The Resistance and Killzone games are particularly what I want to see!!

Rude-ro38d ago

I played killzone 3 in 3d and it really changed the game per being immersive.
In vr, that would be even more awesome.

darthv7238d ago

Funny you mention that... my son wanted to play some PS3 games in 3d on my PS tv and he was blown away by how good KZ3 was. It really was a great addition to the game. Im surprised there have not been more 3d games from that era being ported to the PSVR/VR2.

_SilverHawk_38d ago

resistance 1-3, killzone 1-3, uncharted 1-3, uncharted golden abyss, folklore, socom 4 , motorstorm, twisted metal, MAG, heavenly sword

Cacabunga38d ago

Killzone 2+3
Sly Thieves in Time
Crack in Time
God of War Ascension
Motorstorm
Modnation racer
Infamous 1+2

Profchaos38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

Killzone trilogy in VR would be amazing bonus points if they offer shadow fall.

There was a psvr1 Killzone project that supermassive was working on at one stage which wasn't up to scratch and Sony brand it back in house I was hoping we would see that on psvr2 eventually.

Personally I'd love to see some more love or acknowledgement of psvr2 from Sony in general it was a expensive headset and Sony barely acknowledge it's existence

seanpitt2338d ago

The amount of work needed to remaster these games wouldn't be beneficial on a financial and business sense.. MGS4 would probably be the best bet as it would need the least amount of work!

Iceball200038d ago

YEAAASSSSS! I miss this franchise and wanna play it so bad again.

Father__Merrin38d ago

The time is perfect for a resistance fall of man game campaign coop multiplayer

InUrFoxHole38d ago

The resistance series is str8 trash to me. Socom 3 I would welcome. Or killzone MP.

Marcus Fenix38d ago

A Resistance reboot will be awesome

Michiel198938d ago

That's what Bungie should make, Ill keep saying it until it happens

1Victor38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

Resistance was ok but Warhawk and Starhawk was better and kept me coming back for almost a decade of fun and petty revenge on the loud mouth unskilled players 🤣
Edit I loved capture the flag dropping the pot on the flag carrier was extremely satisfying as well as transforming your plane in bot form and stumping them to death 😱

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Michiel198938d ago

Resistance was the best co-op fps I ever played after L4D2

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One Last Smoke - The significance of Snake's cigarettes in Metal Gear Solid 4

An article looking at the symbolic meaning behind the cigarettes in Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots.

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Hideo Kojima laments that Metal Gear Solid 4's digital battlefield 'is no longer science fiction'

Game creator Hideo Kojima is and probably will always be best-known for his creation and stewardship of the Metal Gear series at Konami, which since his departure has been more-or-less on permanent hiatus (don't mention Survive). In his almost three decades these games evolved to the point where they predicted certain problems of the information age (MGS 2), took aim at contemporary topics like Guantanamo Bay (MGS: Ground Zeroes), and ended on a profound sense of sadness about our species' inability to break the cycles of global conflict (MGS V).

It's not clear what sparked this reflection, but Kojima's been thinking about Metal Gear Solid 4, an entry that was (and unfortunately still remains) a PlayStation 3 exclusive. In that entry the player controls an aged Solid Snake in the year 2014, caught up in a civil war being fought between Private Military Companies (PMCs).

Dirty_Lemons348d ago

That was a great fucking game/ movie.

DarXyde348d ago

To this day, it's one of those games where I refuse to skip the cutscenes, no matter how many playthroughs I've done.

But if you ask me...MGS2 was bloody prophetic and has aged like fine wine. That game was blasted as the weakest entry, and yet it's so enduring. I replayed it some time last year and it was remarkable.

sadraiden348d ago

Heed not the lamentations of people that say that MGS2 is bad because of the Snake/Raiden bait and switch. Every MGS game has its own merits, and while most people consider 3 to be the best, they all shine equally in my opinion.

porkChop348d ago

@sad

I would generally agree but with the exception of MGSV. It had truly excellent gameplay/combat, but dull and largely empty open world(s), and a narrative that is literally only half finished.

I really wish Kojima hadn't tried to go open world with MGS. It just wasn't right for the series. But I get it. He didn't want to make MG anymore but he wasn't allowed to make anything else. So he had to experiment within that franchise. Still, it was the wrong direction.

Santouryuu348d ago

I have been thinking about this a lot, MGS2 being the weakest and getting blasted.
My conclusion, for some years now, it's my favorite game of the series.
Going from MGS1 to MGS2 was such a big leap, in graphics, mechanics, etc.
And now it's even more relevant for being 'bloody prophetic' as you stated.

Maybe dust of my vita and play it again...

porkChop348d ago

It's a shame we never got a remaster of MGS4. The original game only rendered at 1024x768, and it ran anywhere from like 20fps to 60fps depending on the area. A remaster could have very easily cleaned up the visuals and performance. It's such a great game. I just want to play it again but in its best possible state.

MIDGETonSTILTS17348d ago

I agree, but they did all sorts of tricks to make use of the ps3’s cell processor….they’d probably have to rebuild the game in order to make it run on another machine. And, if that involves remaking those cutscenes somehow, then itll never happen, unfortunately.

porkChop348d ago

Nah. There have been plenty of remasters of PS3 games and they've turned out fine. It can be done.

ANIALATOR136347d ago (Edited 347d ago )

You can get near enough 4k 60 with it on RPCS3 these days

FallenAngel1984348d ago

War... war never changes. Or does it? The war has changed ...did it? The answer is no! Unless it is yes! No, of course it is! Is war! Yes! No! Yes?

PitbullMonster347d ago

Ah a man of culture. Duty calls

cell989348d ago

He was always ahead with this series. MSG1 taught me about the importance of passing on our genes into future generations but in a responsible way, for they are bound to what we experienced in our lifetime. Sons of liberty taught me about global control and simulation runs to test society in a grand scale, the importance and dangers of control of information. MGS3 taught me about patriotism and how that can blind you into doing things you never would have otherwise, all for the sake of politicians who only see you as another pawn in their grand scheme of things. MSG4 taught me war is inevitable and always orchestrated because it's great for the economy. Soon simulation systems will start dictating who goes to war and why, all run through proxies. Privatization of military company are already here. We already started to see how a small group of elites dictates everything that happens. Nothing is done, nothing happens without strings being pulled.

Eidolon348d ago

You learned all this from MGS?

Tody_ZA348d ago

All that was literally the themes and core story of each game, so not surprising he learned that from MGS. Metal Gear Solid 2 in particular is so relevant today, it was more than a decade ahead of its time and a work of genius. Kojima saw what the digital future was going to become when it was in its infancy. Even MGS 5 despite being unfinished and less of a traditional Metal Gear Solid game with regards to story, had a fair bit to say about language and control over it that is relevant today.

It's a highly acclaimed series for a reason, and one of my favourite.

Eidolon348d ago

I've watched my brother play the MGS games, but I only beat MGS1 myself on the PSP in 2014, and MGSV in 2016. I took the themes and plots as lore, tbh.. trying to piece together the story of MGS rather than relating them to our current times.

Tody_ZA348d ago

It's definitely social commentary, Eidolon. You should read the "themes and analysis" section of the Wikipedia page for MGS2: Sons of Liberty for a start! Game was heavy on this.

Eidolon348d ago

I'll take a look, thanks. Actually might pick up MGS2 again (PS Vita), It's been years since I last played. Might start a new game tbh.

sadraiden348d ago

MGS2 literally predicted digital manipulation of information that we see today all the way back in 2001. MGS2 became Zucc's playbook.

Knushwood Butt348d ago

MGS taught me not to pee my pants.

cell989348d ago

Yes back in 1998 when I was 13. Throughout the years more information has been shown on this subject matters, but go back to early 2000s and information wasn't as prominent. Kojima was ahead of the game

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MaxiPower90348d ago

He was on the ball about many things. A true visionary.

sadraiden348d ago

If it wasn't for the retconning of how FOXDIE works, including clunky scenes with Naomi and Liquid, MGS4 would be a perfect game. There are so many gameplay options. It felt like us PS3 owners got something truly unique and special.

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