Topher, from thenerdfilter, explains his reasoning behind having doubts about the upcoming releases of the Xbox 720/Durango, and the Playstation 4
Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"
Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”
Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever
Nice one ☝️
This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.
No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.
Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.
Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?
Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.
Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.
Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.
I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.
Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.
How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.
Microsoft's future in the video game space is murky right now, so let's break it all down.
Not anytime soon. But they're on that path.
One thing not mentioned in the article is Microsoft's money bags. If Sega had Microsoft's money, they would have still been around as a hardware manufacturer. Xbox as a platform only survives because of the money bags. They can continue making consoles for the core and port to PC.
The multiplatform strategy is only the result of arrogance and misguided leadership that blew up in their face. They thought gamers would jump on Xbox in droves if they knew that many of their favorite games would be only on Xbox. But that's not happening at all. Sales didn't increase. They decreased. Why? Because the dumb asses thought giving away these expensively made games in a cheap service would also turn the tide.
Gamers on other platforms are willing to buy quality. They don't need to be handed nearly free games in a service that aren't even finished and sometimes average in their development. Gamers buy Nintendo games. They buy Sony games. Microsoft groomed their base to not buy games. Even the quality ones. It has always been their plan to go digital. But most gamers still like single player gaming. Still like physical releases.
Microsoft's problem has always been that they don't produce high quality games at the same output as Nintendo and Sony. Actually, they should be producing quite a lot more because they're worth over 2 TRILLION. How they don't have more is ridiculous and no excuse. Buying publishers to take away from competition only backfired. Because it still takes millions of dollars to continue to make those games from the publishers they snatched. Their only choice was to crawl back to their competitors to help sustain those developers because Nintendo and Sony platforms were the ones buying games.
Am I sorry for Microsoft? Hell no! They deserved last place for putting in the least effort. They deserved the fallout for buying up the industry and didn't make a single blip on the radar against their competitors where they now need those same gamers they took away games from to support them. Part of it may have been to cash in on their competition. But the result is the slow death of their platform. They may go 3rd party. They may keep making hardware. I don't give a shit about them to worry about it. I only give a shit about the destructive nature of their industry moves that only negatively affect gamers. They could sell and drop out of the industry and I wouldn't blink. Probably laugh. But not blink. They deserve whatever comes to them. At least Sega put in the effort when it came to games. They just had poor leadership. Microsoft has poor leadership and barely makes memorable games. That's a killer combination. And not in a good way.
Not sure about that. It's been two decades and I still think about Power Stone, Shenmue, Crazy Taxi, Jet Set Radio, Seaman and others, but I'm not sure I'll remember Xbox Series X/S games in a few years from now... Maybe I'll remember about the franchises that the Xbox brand spawned, but I don't believe that the Xbox Series lives up to the late Dreamcast or even to the Xbox name itself. I do have great memories about the 360 with Blue Dragon, Gears 2 and Lost Odyssey though
No, Dreamcast was ahead of it's time and most still have very fond memories of it that had one. It also had some good games on it even in it's short lifespan. Xbox has none of these qualities.
I do have to agree, good read
I agree with the writer too.
A high cost system, with no used game options, and a demand to be constantly online; is a very Dumb Move for either Sony or Microsoft to make.
-With one of these detriments they may be able to excel but with more than one...?
He also brought-up something that I haven't really thought about:
How do people expect Both Sony and Microsoft sales to surpass the WiiU's 1st 6 months sales, when:
-Both Systems will be cannibalizing the same audience?
-And share most of the same Ports ( Ports that will also be on previous systems PS360)?
>No hate to 720/PS4 but I think Sony and Microsoft fans need to continue to be vocal with what they are willing to put-up with.<
The next Xbox has not even been announced so not really a need to have any doubts until it is actually announced. No point in even thinking about the Next Xbox until then. Once details are our out people can better judge what they are going to get. New consoles always work like this. You will have some games that will be for both new and old consoles, but with different features for those that are upgrading to the next gen. Basically I wouldn't even worry about anything until all the information is out of both systems. Myself I really don't care I am getting the PS4 that is just my system of choice. I usually get the others when there are enough games I want (exclusives) to justify the purchase.
'Sure, Nintendo needs to step the software end of the bargain, and they also have other issues they need to sort out as well, but their system is solid, and it is a lot of fun to use and play. I can deal with long load times and external hard drives, for the peace of mind that I can purchase a copy of a game and not have to pay extra for one of my kids to play it, and if my Internet is down, I’ll have something to do. So, it looks like Sony and Microsoft have some explaining to do, and Nintendo needs to capitalize on this opportunity.'
The author make mention of the fact that Nintendo doesn't have the games (yet) and they have 'other' issues, but then go on to say they have a solid system ... the author then talks about the long load times and the need for an external HDD. This is preceded and followed by the doubts the author has for the 720 and the PS4; doubts that are born out of a 'lack' of information.
I find that odd thinking to be honest and completely the opposite of how I would consider these arguments. I can't measure the Wiiu against the 720 or the PS4 because I have no concrete information; although we DO know how the PS4 is going to be focused. On the other hand I don't have to speculate on the Wiiu which, as the author says, has hardly any decent games, has issues that need resolving, long load times and a lack of storage space.
This isn't a scenario in which I would have doubts about next gen, it's a scenario in which I would doubt Nintendo's ability to compete. I'm not saying they can't, I'm just trying to get my head around the authors thinking