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Sony Has Already Won The Next-Gen Battle

MadAssGamers: To start off, I just want to mention why we here at MAG believe Sony already has the head start this year against Microsoft regarding games. Sony already has a good amount of successful, 'triple AAA' PlayStation Exclusive Franchises behind them that players have come to love over the years. These Exclusives include the; Uncharted series, Little Big Planet, God of War, Gran Turismo, Infamous, Killzone, Ratchet & Clank, Resistance and games like Heavy Rain & Journey. Then you have new, upcoming games like Beyond: Two souls, The Last Of Us, Knack, Drive Club and Diablo 3 that are releasing later this year and early next year and could possibly turn into series with sequels. Sony have already announced new games to their Killzone (Killzone: Shadow Fall) and Infamous (Infamous: Second Son) franchises for the PlayStation 4 but we think Sony still has many more up their sleeve that their still yet to announce.

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iNathan4032d ago

Oh wait Wii already Sold 100m Units, Xbox gained 50m users ground and Sony lost 90 gamers in a blink of na eye.

lulz ofc they already win.

MariaHelFutura4032d ago (Edited 4032d ago )

They didn't win in overall sales, but I think it was the best platform to own for multiple reason. But, this gen in sales, the Wii won, the 360 lost and anything else is just spin. I will say this though, WORLDWIDE they have the most momentum going into next gen and things are looking very good for them atm.

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GribbleGrunger4032d ago

And where did you pull that arbitrary and fallacious notion from? The finishing line is when all consoles of a certain generation are no longer in production. It's as simple as that.

MariaHelFutura4032d ago

Maybe I'm unclear on something, did the PS3 pass the Wii in sales?

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miyamoto4031d ago (Edited 4031d ago )

We all know how the Big 3 played their cards this generation.

Sony stayed true and committed to the kind of gamers they established since 1994. The core gaming community majority they help build through PS1, PS2, PSP, PS3, PS Vita and the billions of games that has been played on those systems. They help build, unwavering, what makes up this great gaming industry.

Sony and PS4 will always stay committed to their goal of telling the world that video gaming is not just child's toy but also a compelling form of adult entertainment. The evolution from Crash Bandicoot, to Jak and Daxter to Uncharted to The Last of Us clearly shows us PlayStation's progressive principles in gaming providing gamers new and fresh gaming ideas every generation and not just resting on very old franchises.

Sony's PlayStation maintained the respect and commitment core gamers so rightfully desrve and the same gamers gives back the same respect and commitment to the PlayStation brand.

Although the PS3 will eventually outsell the Wii and 360 during its life cycle like the SNES did the Genesis what matters most is how Sony played the game through thick and thin.

Making games is how PlayStation started and its how they will go on and on for the days to come.

T24031d ago (Edited 4031d ago )

@gribbleg - pretty sure lila was being sarcastic unless they crazy ...
@ lightbar - well I spose Sony could go down more and sell 20 million ps4 but at this point with all the hype and good lookin quipment id say Sony is on the up swing which is always bad news for nint , ms

hkgamer4031d ago

Lets look at it in a companies perspective.

Nintendo, was struggling big time and needed something big to turn the tables. Wii turned into something crazy.
Every unit sold made Nintendo money but if you look at the average console games attach rate then it probably would be lower then Sony and MS.

MS barely had a presence and lacked many big exclusives the PS2 had. 360 came out with a blast and had the Japanese developers developing for them. Stole a few exclusive franchises, Live was succesful and keeps money coming in. Attach rate was fantastic and gained alot of fans.

Sony lost alot of money per console, lost the fanbase to MS and also lost alot of exclusives. FFXIII, Rockstar games, RE?. Barely touched my Wii/360. Think I still have the original GUI on the 360.

Jaqen_Hghar4031d ago

a man saw Miyamoto pay PS3 its respects. A man believes he sees where this console war is going.

sikbeta4031d ago

Some people just never understand, right?

How Sony is going to win anythig IF MS still didn't show their console... :/

Look at what happened this whole week, people forgot about the PlayStation 4 event and were in full about a damn tweet from some low level employer @ MS talking about some unknow/rumored Feature that caused quite the uproar

Imagine what will happen in the reveal day of the Nextbox... It's going to be freaking HUGE!!!

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Gimmemorebubblez4032d ago (Edited 4032d ago )

This gen aint over...watch Kuturagi's third console will sell the most when production ceases in the next 5 years. Remember the Ps3 is a marathon runner not a sprinter.
Edit: In my point of view Sony have won me over but Im not sure about other gamers and even I should reserve my judgment for when MS unveils their next console.

Clarence4031d ago (Edited 4031d ago )

It took more than 7yrs for each Playstation to get over a 100m. PS3 set the bar for what a console should be. Why do you think M$ has switch their tactics from gaming to entertainment.

Genuine-User4031d ago (Edited 4031d ago )

Wii sold more because it was targeted towards children, parents and grandparents.
Even though Sony released a whole year after the Xbox 360, it has sold more in less time.
Even after the lackluster launch, initial online problems and the infamous hack, Sony still won the current gen HD battle, not only that, Sony is going out with a bang before the Playstation 4 arrives.

Monkeysmarts4031d ago

Assuming everyone who bought a Wii will buy a Wii U is ignorant. Assuming everyone who bought a 360 over a PS3 in North America will buy a 720 over PS4 is presumptuous and ignorant.

We don't know how the sales will shake out, but Wii U is on the short end of both developer support and gamer interest. PS4 looks to be a far stronger platform with a lot more developer support. The assumption that Wii U will do better based on Wii's numbers is pretty asinine.

NobleTeam3604031d ago

You forgot "assuming everyone who bought a PS3 will buy a PS4 is ignorant as well"

TheTwelve4031d ago

This article highlights how Sony really used media to catch Microsoft by surprise.

1. They acted as if they would reveal second.

2. They acted as if they would make an always-online console, which Microsoft would have loved.

Both proved to be red herrings that Microsoft seemed to have jumped completely into and now are caught "with their pants down".

I believe Microsoft is currently scrambling to recover from this. We'll see how they do, but first blood is drawn by Sony for sure.

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T24031d ago

An interesting point ... Not sure if its true but if it is, expect Sony to spank ms hard on sales this gen... And with windows 8 , ms is actually looking at a tough cpl years here ...

TheRealHeisenberg4031d ago

Please explain how this caught MS with their pants down? Got any links or comments from MS supporting that?

ma1asiah4031d ago (Edited 4031d ago )

@ The Twelve

What makes you think that what you think is not in reverse with SONY showing their cards to early giving MS a possible edge.

Remember this MS have not revealed a console whether it be all about gaming or be an all purpose one stop entertainment media hub. They have not mentioned a release date, they have not set a price point, they have not confirmed whether its next iteration will come in one flavour or a few different flavours. In fact no one knows if it will be released this year or next year.

Everything you have read or seen has been a pure mix of speculation and rumours.

Sometimes being the underdog is a good thing. especially at the moment where SONY is being talked about like some kind of Goliath to MS's David and well we all know historically what happened to Goliath don't we.

At the moment it is best not to count your chickens until they hatch.

MysticStrummer4031d ago

@Bar_Brothers - Way to start off the comments with a pointless point. How can anyone look at what happened with PS2 and PS3, and think the previous generation matters when you're talking about next generation sales? That was Sony's mistake with PS3, and from what we've seen so far they've learned from that mistake.

XBox had nowhere to go but up. PS had nowhere to go but down. Nintendo was the big winner because they made a cheap console and sold a ton of them.

Having said all that, it's waaay too early to declare victory. All we have to go on is the lack of titles that make people want a Wii U, rumors that make 720 sound like something a lot of gamers won't want, and the little information we have so far about PS4. Going by all that PS4 has the advantage, but it's meaningless at this point.

S2Killinit4031d ago

your making an assumption here, the assumption is that it would have been even possible to hold on to the type of market share the PS2 had. But you got to admit that not only did PS3 come back and take the second spot from xbox, but they also delivered the best gaming among the three. If this generation was any indication, PS4 should be the console to have come next generation. Just my opinion.

avengers19784031d ago

PS3 did win. You know for games anyway. More exclusives more new ips, more indie games, a better FREE online experience, and a better paid online experience. If u have plus then you know that free games always wins

AngelicIceDiamond4031d ago

These articles always start out the same.

Sony has all these games.

Sony has a big event, gets the hype train going.

Sony cares about the gamer and what not.

MS is terrible because of the rumors.

MS aren't saying anything they have no games blah, blah.

basically reasons that tell me nothing on how Sony won anything.

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Godmars2904032d ago

And if next gen is anything like last gen - fundamentally broken and uncreative - no one is going to win anything. It'll just be fanboys arguing.

Not that it wont be that anyway.

MikeMyers4031d ago (Edited 4031d ago )

Sony is getting very positive feedback so far and have the best momentum moving forward with the PS3. If they can price the PS4 competitively and have a strong launch they could take the lead early.

The Wii U is currently struggling and the rumours of the next Xbox are not very positive from a gamers perspective. However nothing is ever a guarantee. Sony had incredible momentum leading up to the PS3 and that wasn't a runaway success. Plus with consumers being so multi-media focused now its very hard to predict.

Don't let the forums fool you, people spend a great deal of time on their consoles doing other things than just playing games than they did last generation compared to this generation.

Godmars2904031d ago

At the very least that the WiiU is as you put it "struggling" despite having a supposedly strong launch line-up, that every other system's launch have been weak, means that launch line-ups mean nothing.

What should really matter is once a console hits its stride how long it can keep if not improve upon it. That's why the 2600, NES, SNES, PS1 and PS2 hold the positions they do in the general gamer consciousness, and why sytems like the Dreamcast have more of a hardened "cult" following.

MikeMyers4031d ago (Edited 4031d ago )

What competed with the 2600 at the time? Launch line-ups do have an effect. Imagine a Zelda game or a real Mario Bros. game on the Wii U, those are system sellers. The games they did offer wasn't that impressive. You had Zombie U, a 2D Mario game and NintendoLand for big games. Not exactly breathtaking.Plus Nintendo had a tough time marketing it and what the system offered.

So far all signs are positive for the PS4. Great hardware tailored for game developers, a history with offering games to all ages, excellent relations to 3rd party publishers, a proven online service and great feedback so far. The price could be a problem and if the system launches in 2013 worldwide or not.

The Vita, 3DS, and the Wii U have all stumbled one way or the other. From pricing, an identity crisis, to software. There is no magic formula in today's times but Sony seems to be correcting any faults found on the PS3.

Cupid_Viper_34031d ago

I'm with you on that. Nothing is won before the fact, so people need to just chill with that.

@ Bar Brothers above.

You're totally right, Sony did lose 90 (Ninety) gamers in the blink of an eye.

But to be fair, let's step into reality for second, I know it's probably not "always on" for you.

If it took the PS2 13 years to sell 150 million units, then there is no logical way to determine how many gamers Sony lost/won with the PS3 being only 7 years old.

Number 2, The PS3 has yet to reach the $200.00 price point. But more impressively is the fact that the PS3 is currently selling almost as many units as the 3DS worldwide.

It's very easy to see why the PS3 is going to pass the 100 million units mark.

NewMonday4032d ago

MS look like losing globally by a big margin this time, with that and a 50/50 split in the USA would be enough for Sony.

Cocozero4032d ago

Lol I guess the new 720 leaks were too much for some sites :p

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere11h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN8h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos5h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

peppeaccardo48m ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

PassNextquestion10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger8h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Profchaos10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto10h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos9h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long6h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel9h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator8h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg11h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos11h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola6h ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10111d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref10d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde10d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197210d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville10d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218310d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos10d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai11d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref10d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan10d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00710d ago (Edited 10d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197211d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref10d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde10d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197210d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197210d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier10d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto10d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218310d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto10d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman11d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts10d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts9d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic10d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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