This is the monster PC that ran the Battlefield 4 demo

DICE reveals a photo of the monster PC that ran the Battlefield 4 demo. It featured 4 GPUs and a massive 12 GB of video memory.

[deadfrag]

Waste of money.

[shutUpAndTakeMyMoney]

How is it a waste? Should I get a console to run bf4 3k 60fps?

I think it's a privilage to be able to experience ps5 resolution and frame rate in the end of ps3 era.

But then again you may have a point since most games won't push pc that hard.

A sony/xbox game can't experience this till say 2022?

can't wait for ddr4 & gddr6 next year! Should be interesting.

I can't wait for the new consoles but if bf4 is 30fps like killzone then I will laugh and buy infamous since u know.. Controllers and shooter are not good for me anyway(I need to check both side a room in less than 1.8 sec and usually that's 4 secs on console). It's like playing under water.

[2pacalypsenow]

Show me a 3480 x 2400 pixels monitor plz?? that can be bought by normal gamers . Not the 1% if not it doesn't matter

[rajman]

oh god, you just had to start a pc vs console war didnt you

[just_jeff]

@shutUpAndTakeMyMoney

Dude, calm down. You ripped into consoles for no reason. He just said "waste of money" Did he say "waste of money, get a PS4"? Get that chip off of your shoulder he wasn't attacking PC's.

back to the topic at hand, isn't it a waste of money tho?

it was unoptimized code so they had to go balls out to make sure their unoptimized code would run smoothly. I'm sure when it's optimized you wont need 2x7990's and 12GB of GDDR5. I'm sure you'll be able to run the game with just 1x7990 and 4GB of GDDR5 RAM.

[ProjectVulcan]

This PC is designed to run unoptimised pre alpha code with less than optimised driver revisions at some uber resolutions to impress everybody as much as possible. To that end, it needs to be an absolute beast.

The game won't need this sort of machine to run well, because nobody designs even PC games that won't run well on a decent array of current machines.

The game will no doubt take advantage of high end gear, but considering that Battlefield 3 was actually rather well optimised I would expect no less from this new game.

See DICE really built the game well for PC. You could run BF3 on old hardware like the Geforce 8800/9800 series and it looked good. 8800GTX comfortably managed 1080p on mix of low/medium and all low = console according to DICE which also only ran the game at 1280 x 704.

You could run it on top end stuff @ 1080p and ultra with MSAA and it ran great. In other words top end hardware didn't actually struggle with BF3 at the time, they ran it easily and it still looked superb. Still does.

I don't see why BF4 will be any different.

[HammadTheBeast]

The only thing I'm going to say is... lol at the few PC gamers (note few) who were ripping on Killzone 4 for not having Graphics as good as BF4's, while comparing PS4 to this.

[ReubenPatrick]

He was saying that a PC like that would be a bit of an overkill to be honest.

[SegataSanshiro]

I have never heard of Dance Dance Revolution 4

[djthechamp24]

dude its just a video game get a life and stop talkin shit about playing video games on a PC

[MaxXAttaxX]

It only served for exhibition purposes, but it IS a waste of money for a gamer when NO game is developed and optimized to run at those specs. Do you realize how much money this set-up costs??
So you can keep pretending that you'll be able to play your imaginary PS5 quality games today.

Why don't you guys quit pretending that PC gaming automatically means graphics and performance leaps and bounds over PS4 as if every PC gamer has a PC of the highest-end, because in reality they're the minority.

[ExCest]

@NathanExplosion

Well, there are other things that use that much power. And btw, Metro 2033 can't run at maximum on a 680 so this rig might be the only setup that can.

Also, imaginary PS5 is imaginary.

[darren_poolies]

"I need to check both side a room in less than 1.8 sec and usually that's 4 secs on console."

[Ritsujun]

Waste of resources. They don't even have talented developers to ultilize those wasted power.

[gedapeleda]

@just_jeff
Why do you think it's an unoptimized code?
It's the same engine bf3 runs on with more bells and whistles.

[robleroy]

This setup a about at least $4000 only!!!! (not counting the OS license and other things (gamekeyboard etc etc)

Wauw . Thats really cheap!!!

[FlyingFoxy]

Nothing will run it 3k 60fps constant, have you seen people running just 2 monitors with 2 graphics cards? some of the games have pitiful framerates as low as 20-30.

if you want 60fps almost constantly you need 1080p, or 120fps for those who own a 120hz monitor. You will not achieve a playable framerate with 2-3 monitors any time in the near future, 1080p is the sweet spot and will be for a very long time, at least until graphics cards have a huge jump in performance. That likely won't happen as it's always something like a 20%-30% increase every major card release.

[stragomccloud]

@just_jeff

How is he ripping into consoles?
He is just stating facts about upcoming technologies.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

It served its purpose. Therefore, it's not a waste of money. This isn't Joe down the block's gaming rig.

[steve30x]

Its not joe down the blocks gaming rig. Its a gaming rig for the person who has too much money. I have a good gaming rig that runs all current games with maximum settings and it only cost a third of what that thing costs.

Two 7990's arent needed for gaming , a Core I7 is overkill. I have a CoreI5 760 , 8GB DDR3 ram and a GTX680 and I optomised windows to use as little resources as possible.

That computer is a complete waste of money for gaming. It is more suited for video rendering or games development or other stuff most gamers wont use it for.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

@steve30x

So you don't get it either? This is not a gaming rig lol hence why I said it served its purpose. It had a purpose, and it has been served. It is a show off piece of equipment. And a Core i7 is not overkill.

[steve30x]

You cant make up your mind can you? First you said its joe down the roads gaming rig and then you say its not. Also anybody with knowledge of gaming would tell you that a Core I7 is overkill. A core I5 is perfect because there isn't any games out yet that will use more than 4 cores of a CPU where a core I7 is 4 cores with 8 threads and a game only uses 4 of those threads or 4 cores. Its a waste.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

@steve

May want to re-read what I said. This *isn't* Joe down the block's rig. I would think that was obvious, given the context of my whole point. Are we done with this?

[StraightPath]

Dont tell me a pc gamer would spend so much money to run one game..waste of money.

[Coach_McGuirk]

Morty: "How could you spend two hundred dollars on a tip calculator?!"
Jerry: "It does other things!"

[tubers]

Because a high end PC only plays one new game.

Fanfuckingtastic logic!

[solar]

But who are you to tell anyone what is a waste of money? I love tech, and it's my hobby to build gaming PC's. If I think it's worth it is it really a "waste of money " if i find happiness doing something i love?

Do you need all that? Of course not. But if you have the money what's the harm? I have yet to get an answer to that question.

[hiredhelp]

Well said solar I feel same way been building rigs for going on decade it's endless so is the price. But there's a huge community out there that many n4gs may not realise modders and enthusiasts.
It's a passion hobby lifestyle we enjoy? It also doesn't have to cost the earth like that's shown in the article but it can be easy to go crazy.

[tubers]

If a lot of people here think this amount is ridiculous for a hobby, they're in for a rude awakening for other hobbies..

clue: VROOOMM!!!!

[GDDR6_2014]

I agree and I've never spent more than 1000 on a rig, people that can spend 4000, good for you. People spend a lot more than that on other hobbies or vacations

[imchuckbass]

Jeez, it's quite obvious you can't afford it, but if others can afford it, what's the problem?

People who can afford a ferrari, why should they buy a second hand toyota?

People who can afford an 8 bedroom house, why should they buy a studio apartment with half a toilet?

DICE were hardly going to showcase their new title on a console, they didn't want to embarrass themselves!

[extermin8or]

Lol well it is a waste because you cannot actually use the power that rig has-its like buying a ferrari when you'll never be able to drive it.... ever Its an exersize in feeding your own ego. Plus half those features even on a large 4k screen become barely discernable to the human eye...

[FlameBaitGod]

This guy doesn't have money 2 spend ^^^^

[BlmThug]

I always dream of having such a rig :(

[TXIDarkAvenger]

Not a waste of money if your a PC enthusiast.

[ichimaru]

lol its not your money

[Jio]

The way I see it, gaming PCs are like muscle cars. They're not a waste of money because some people prefer having options and more power.

[gamer234]

at least you can fuck a real girl in a muscle car but what will u do with an expensive PC nooooooooooooooothing oh I forgot, masturbation

[Horny]

Porn with such a high def resolution that it will make your eyes cum.

[B-radical]

On bright side only 48 people needed for petition to be sent to EA FOR BOTS MODE

http://www.change.org/en-AU...

[TheXonySbox]

Good advice, sadly if consoles were superior to PC gaming i'd be glued to my consoles.

They arnt, they are hard to look at on the eyes; low res, bloom and jaggies. Ontop of that I can only game on them. Like wtf, waste of hardware potential.
PCs do alot more then just gaming, hell they create all the games you play on consoles to boot.

PC masterace.
Consoles poor mans PC.

PS.
Technically that system has TWO gpus with 4 cores.
I've seen worse.

[Baka-akaB]

You guys are the one osbessed with consoles and brought it to the conversation .

It is ... very telling

[TheXonySbox]

U mad bro?

Look at the post I replied to.
#failtroll

[davidj88]

Nobody ever said consoles were superior to PC's, but why must those people who own a console and not a gaming PC be poor? I for one don't own a gaming rig yet i'm very satisfied with what my bank account tells me.

Fact is if i want to look at realistic and pretty things i'd go outside or go on holiday, i play games to have fun which doesn't require me to spend anything over the price of a console.....so i'll happily play on one even if you don't like it.

[JsonHenry]

I thought the Nvidia Titan was the best GPU in the world??

[DeadlyFire]

Titan is the best desktop GPU at the moment with 4.5 Tflops. AMD's is at 4.3 Tflops, but not far behind. Their new 8000 lineup should push beyond 4.5 Tflops. Server CPUs go up to 5.9 Tflops for AMD and only 5.3 Tflops for NVIDIA so far.

[FlyingFoxy]

it's best but hugely overpriced, if it weren't for micro stuttering i would buy 2 7970's because they stomp all over it and are quite a bit cheaper.

Stop gap card = Titan, price will drop like a rock soon once the next proper series starts.

Plus what's funny is the fact that even Crysis 3 can't run full 60+fps @ 1080p on the Titan and look at the cost of it, what a joke.. not that i like Crysis because it's a mediocre game with flashy graphics. Just tells me that the Titan is hugely overpriced for what it can do.

if they want to release a card like Titan and be taken seriously, it should have been 2x more powerful than it is now and that way be able to compete with proper high end cards 2 years from now, but it's a rip off as it is.

[DeadlyFire]

Yup definitely a waste. To be clear on why they used the most powerful thing they could find. They stated that it was a raw unoptimized Alpha build of the game. So that is why it was used. Final version should run at 30-60+ fps with PS4 specs no problem or quad core PC + decent Video card and 4 GB RAM.

[FlyingFoxy]

The 60fps term gets thrown around a lot.. but what a lot of people don't realise is that you need a lot of power to be able to keep 60fps+ under intense scenes, so the game will need above recommended specs to run well even @ 1080p.

This is from experience. Loads of games i've played have run much better way above the recommended spec, which is stupid because they don't state you need a way higher than listed spec to keep 60fps. They won't tell you it's gonna dip to 20-30fps in intense parts if you only have recommended spec.

Disagree all you want but this is a fact.

[Mini0510]

you have a pretty low expectations in requirements for 60+ fps in BF4. Good luck with your expectation.

[DeadlyFire]

I am pretty confident a 2.5 Tflop card can run BF4 at 60 fps. I didn't throw a resolution out there, but pretty sure 720p is guaranteed 60 fps.

I do agree under intense scenes things have always lagged. If they are developing things like the new consoles with GPGPU type development with OpenCL + DirectX/OpenGL on your PC then your GPU cores could numb or stop that. Many cards have been carrying OpenCL for a few years now with latest DirectX/OpenGL adding in OpenCL extensions.

[kikoano]

thats how you need to buy pc and to stop wasting money on console if you didnt bought ps3,xbox,wii u you can get this beast

[jcnba28]

PC will always have better graphics than consoles, get over it.

[MadLad]

PC is never a waste of money.
When you want something, you buy it. Gaming is a hobby and you put into it what you want to put into it.

[NeXXXuS]

if almost the entire gaming community can't afford it, then it's a waste of money lol.

[BattleReach]

Everybody prepare yourself for November, wallets ready: computer store.

[_-EDMIX-_]

We knew once next gen started, it would be a beast upgrade. Like I said before, your not just making the same assets or features in 1080p 60fps, your making new assets and textures and tessellation run at a much higher frame.

No doubt it took a beast to run such a thing. This is the way of all gaming. The disagrees from people who don't care for PC gaming really just need to understand the tech more.

Whats happening with PC NOW, WON'T be BIGGER then what are in consoles Next, next gen. ie PS5 etc.

When PS3 launched, the 8800gtx came out about a year later. Clearly a PS4 beats the crap out of a 8800gtx.

Its nothing to cower over or feel like PC gamers are showing off. Its just the way gaming progress. This is good for me and you. Why disagree?

On that note, don't build fro this now, I would wait until ending of next year when all the GPU's are out and have been benchmarked right with the first wave of next gen PC games.

I'm getting a PS4 in the mean time just based on that most of those beast PC games won't be optimized right on those new GPU's for a while. I'm upgrading ending of next year.

Look at it as a bigger glimpse into the future of all gaming.

[AnteCash]

This chart shows the approximately power/score of the PS4 gpu in Passmark.

http://www.videocardbenchma...

7850 being the approximately the power level of PS4 GPU.

7850 average score is 3700 - 180$
680 gtx average score is 5600 - 400$

GeForce 8800 GTX average score is 760

Hate when ignorant/troll ppl say PS4 Gpu is low end.

[hiredhelp]

@antecash
The PS4 GPU isn't a low end if it was a pc deadicated video card it be classed at a mid level tier card.
That's we're Sony put tere money they've done well

[AnteCash]

@hiredhelp and all of you who neged me , read what i wrote in the last sentence.

Fuck it im done writing comments when ppl cant fuking read and understand what was writen.

[Jio]

Careful. This place is full of console fanboys who hate PC.

[CaptainFaisal]

Since you finished the demo care to give me the PC? :)

[Rearden]

If you're able to run BF3 decently, I don't think you'll need a big upgrade. BF3 and BF4 look very similar, the new engine is more of an evolution than revolution.

[xploz1on]

Holy Moly!... Was mad but then happy whe i saw the part and i quote "the singleplayer demo was an “unoptimized alpha version” of the game"

[landog]

pc-

for people serious about gaming!

[PygmelionHunter]

Try replacing the word "gaming" with "graphics" and you're good to go.

@_-EDMIX-_
Are you so insecure that you resort to "try" trolling someone who isn't even bashing PC gaming?

The whole point of my comment was to argue that only PC gamers are serious about gaming.

And if you wanna play dirty then: Did you enjoy Red Dead Redemption, my God that game was so freaking swee... Oh sorry, I just didn't mean to offend you :(

[_-EDMIX-_]

So how was 64 player MP on BF3 for...oh....oh I see. LOL!

[HammadTheBeast]

I dunno, a big old clusterf*** with Op Metro on 90% of the time, and tons of hacks.

[SKUD]

Upside down.

[Rearden]

Actually, that's a new PC case that's inverted by design.

[princejb134]

I hope this game comes out for ps4

[Fishy Fingers]

It is.

[MariaHelFutura]

It will.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

It shall.

[d0nT wOrrY]

It should.

[Tultras]

C-C-C-C-Combo breaker!!

[zlpw0ker]

ye no shitt serious about gaming,for whos normal to spend literally 1500dollars or more just to play 1 game, and keep on playing the games with best looking graphics,but games arent about graphic.

[Modestmex]

if you can afford it fuck it.

[HammadTheBeast]

The same can be said for other things... or people.

[Jio]

It's not just one game, multiple games will look incredible with this power. Also PCs do more than just play games.

[Truehellfire]

It only requires that much horsepower because the game is in its alpha stages. By the time the game is released it will have proper drivers and require not nearly that much power. I am not saying you will be able to run it cheaply however. Most likely you will still need at minimum a Titan or dual gpu card to run it maxed at 60fps. Just not, ya know, two 7990's...

[Tultras]

Oh that's all is it? how much does a GeForce Titan cost, could you be so kind as to remind me?

[Truehellfire]

@Tultras
What's with the sarcasm? I clearly stated in my comment it would not be cheap to run maxed out at a solid 60fps.

@WUTCHUGUNNADO
680 will (I assume) run the game maxed, but doubtfully keep a steady 60fps. A 680 on Frostibite 2 runs at max settings and 60fps. I imagine that the 680 wont perform as well on Frostbite 3 seeing as they are adding quite a bit of detail to the engine. Granted that is just a guess. Maybe DICE will optimize the heck out of it.

[WUTCHUGUNNADO]

Titan will shine at higher resolutions/multimonitor/3d... A 680 should be able to max it at 1080p/singlemonitor/maybe 3d.

[Coach_McGuirk]

whether people like to admit it or not, there's a market for high-end hardware. Otherwise it wouldn't exist.

[RazMaTaz0121]

That CPU + the 2x graphics cards would set you back £1700 alone. A basic 480GTX + i5 processor can max out 99% of the games out today, why the hell would I spend £1700 to run just this 1 game? I am sure there are plenty of alternative cards and options to play this game on a PC when its out, so yes, ultimately, £1700 on a single game where most games dont even require half that power is a complete overkill and a waste of money, and this is someone who enjoys PC games.

[josephayal]

Nice PC, Only rich people can afford that

[HammadTheBeast]

Super rich. This isn't high class, it's all the way into business and is probably custom.

[Plagasx]

I better be able to get 60fps with my single gtx 680...

[givemeshelter]

You will be able to with maybe FSAA and some other IQ features turned down a bit.

[Moncole]

And once its optimized well it wont need all that.

[Saryk]

It's a good system, but not that much better than mine, excluding the monitor.

[mydyingparadiselost]

Instead of spending all this money to show off a demo why not just wait until a demo is ready without the use of an overly powerful build? Sounds like a waste of cash to me

[WUTCHUGUNNADO]

ATI announced the card at GDC as well... marketing.

[mydyingparadiselost]

Ahh, NOW it's starting to make a little more sense...

[Indo]

This is why I don't have a gaming PC. Because if you want the best gaming experience available, you got to spend money. I was tempted before but Sony's PS4 will please my needs for now.

[Tultras]

Because the ps4 will come free of charge.

Just kidding, I got what you meant, but couldn't resist. :D

[ExCest]

I have to spend money to play games at maximum experience level?

Blasphemy!

[_QQ_]

it is true for other things too, huge tv,7.1surround sound,comfertable couch. all stuff you need for the best possible gaming experience.

[GDDR6_2014]

If you're a console gamer you're already not getting the best gaming experience, you're perfectly fine playing multi games equivalent to low-mid settings on PC

[TBONEJF]

shyt 12gb of ram? Damn. I'm not that rich

[WUTCHUGUNNADO]

$110 for 16gb(2x8gb) of DDR3 on Newegg.

[ExCest]

But he's referring to the 12 GB GDDR5 VRAM, and that's not possible to just buy and plug into your PC.

But it's pretty possible to get 16gb DDR3 for like $60 if you get two 8GB kits from G.Skill.

[Cryptcuzz]

You can get an 8 GB DDR3 kit for $30 or so.

That is assuming you are already running on a motherboard that supports DDR3 memory.

Then I can understand your "I'm not that rich comment" because you would then have to factor in the CPU, which could be costly.

[imchuckbass]

It's understandable why they had to use such a powerful rig - it was alpha code!

When the game's released, and Nvidia/AMD release their drivers, I can see this running at 1080p/60fps on quite a modest setup. You won't need anything near this powerful

You need to remember this is DICE, they were hardly gonna run their demo at 3k resolution on a 7850.. lol

[kingduqc]

How people are surprised that they run games showcase on uber computers?

[IK IR Y IP T]

who cares what killzone 4 looks like still going to be a shit game

[4lc4pon3]

go back to your crapbox 360 and gaylo. Killzone was not a shit game and killzone 4 will be amazing

[Lisica]

Who cares about consoles?

I would always take this beauty.

[aLiEnViSiToR]

lol not this again... and this is a waste of money, you can get much better value vs price if you are smart and build it your self.

Consoles = Exclusive
PCs = Everything else

THE END

[Ravenor]

This was about showcasing the game in a very unfinished and un optomized state. You have to brute force power things like that, and I don't think EA/DICE would spare any expence when it comes to showing off their tent pole shooter franchise for the first time.

The whole talk of the cost is either by kneejerk console only people looking to downplay the PC platform or equally kneejerk PC only/leaning people trying to justify the price of something like this.

Fact of the matter is, if you're looking to play PC Games you don't need to spend 2000+ dollars unless you're looking to do some Tri monitor monstrosity. ]

[Sparticus_1]

Most gamers have no life and are normally ugly...I, on the other hand, am a sexy beast. When I play my games its like magic. So handsome yet so focused on my game. Be it on my pc or my ps3...I am just astonishing! Ok...now back to the subject at hand....If youre a gamer...youre a gamer...I personally dont care if you have an atari or a pc...game with a smile...like I do...as I model for pics...

[DanyBrown]

WTF?
Could you be any more narcissistic?

[TheKayle1]

ppl need to understand that real gamers usually have a nice pc and ALSO consoles...(usually ps and xbox)

but if u dont live under a rock u know that pc is keep down in performance by the console world.....only coz developers make more money on a close system than a pc..and coz is just more easy to develop for a system that have THAT performance target than thing to dev for a scaling game that can do best on a better system and less on lower....im sure for example u would be very sad if movie makers..would have a way to block their movie..ala "if u dont have a 3d tv 55" u cant watch it on ur 36"

with the new techs coming (ie. stacked memory new gpus etc etc) pc will be light years ahead of what we will have in future ps4 and xbox...and as a pc user that use to play ALSO pc games im sad about this

i dont need a payed guerrilla pr dev come here and trying explain to me after 5 years of computer science university that a 1.84 tf system is better than a high end pc..this is just stupid as a pig that can fly...and if u r not just an total ignorant the only thing u could do is laugh hard in front of his face..saying "ok man...eheheh nice try"

optimizing code u can increase ur performance by 8 9 oh well 15% performance
but u will never play in the same ball park of a pc that have 5 6 more teraflops than u....u just CANT
(remember 6 teraflops r MORE than 3 ps4 taped together)

obv we will get more nice exclusives for consoles than pcs but is only for a marketing choice...not coz systems r better ..theres anything better in a console than a pc ANYTHING
So before next time u spit over companies that look just for money....is better IF U first spit on EVERY first party studio that ms and sony have....coz if u think that uncharted was fantastic imagine what they could do on a real perfomance system that can do x10 x15 times more than a console...but no....they look just for money
...but as we know...fanboyism sometime make ppl blind

for this reason as i said million times in older post i was hoping (and i still hope in the new xbox) new console would come at least with something more than 2tf

the moore's law say us that every 18 months + or - chips double their performance
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
nvidia titan can do 4.6 tf on a single chip ..nvidia as we all know will put out also a double chip version for a total 9.2tf..........imagine in 2 or 3 years what will happen 15 16 tf inside or pc....that is BEASTLY but until console makers put out cheap thing as this new ps4.(and maybe the xbox)..theres nothing to be happy for ..and im talking as a gamer..coz big developers will dev their games witha that cheap 1.84tf in mind

console cant be upgraded and honestly i dont wanna pass next 5 years on a consoel that can do 1.84 tf when my pc today can do 2.6tf x2 (two gtx 660ti) knowing that i could get at least x3 times better of what u see in the last kz demo

ps. pls dont come out with the story about "coding to the metal"...both console r directx oriented (while ps4 use different api but they just try to copy directx) on pc we have millions of different setup but trust in me nowdays games can scale very good in quality so that would no be a problem

[HarryB]

That is just too much to read. PC is better than the console. The console is better for sports games. Everything the console does the pc can do with better graphics.

What kind of non sense is it that xbox doesn't even recognize a regular usb head set. Ps3 you can put any headset and it would work.

Bf4 is the reason why I'm upgrading my pc to a massive machine but I prefer a 10 dollar keyboard and a 19 dollar mouse.

I use keyboard and mouse adapters for xbox and ps3. And I just roll people. I just run amok in close quarters with pistols. And because there's auto aim its like an aimbot.

[pertson09]

Impressive? Yes, mind blowing? No..... Create a new IP with all them graphics and impressive technicality and trust me, I'll be mind blown, just tired of iterations.

[Tzuno]

this monster says hi to your electricity bill.

[MadLad]

Built a new rig yesterday, actually.
My i5/GTX680 feels it's ready.

[Prcko]

super expensive,wanna have this in my living room :o