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AMD Vice President: “Most people I know have both: a console and a PC”

Next-gen is on the horizon and questions are rising on how the PC can compete effectively with the new consoles.

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GalacticEmpire4028d ago

Me too.

My PC offers me bleeding edge graphics and mouse and keyboard input for when those things are preferred.

My consoles offer me comfort, convenience and reliability as well as a large screen and are home to a lot of great exclusives.

Pope_Kaz_Hirai_II4028d ago

You def need a pc plus console if you wanna play starcraft 2 or uncharted , infamous or league of legends its a no brainer.

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4028d ago (Edited 4028d ago )

"“Most people I know have both: a console and a PC”"

Noooooooo!!

Both sides are traders!!! Arghhhh!

Pc has better pc games and consoles have better console games. Cry more fanboys!!!

ps4 and pc is all I will need next gen most likely.

starchild4028d ago

I agree with most of what you said, minus the reliability part. I own a PC, Xbox 360 and PS3. The PC is the only one I haven't had any kind of hardware failure with.

My original launch 360 died and then they fixed it and then it died again and they fixed it a second time. Luckily it has worked for about 5+ years now.

My original fat PS3 has a bad GPU and it won't play most PS3 games without massive amounts of artifacts. I think that even if I send it in to Sony to get it fixed that they won't fix it and will only send me one of those PS3 slim units that don't have BC.

These experience have made me reluctant to buy the PS4 or next Xbox anywhere close to launch. I think I will probably wait a few months or years to make sure the hardware is more reliable.

Even if my PC does have a part that goes bad, at least it is easy to replace just that part.

MrDead4028d ago (Edited 4028d ago )

I have never had a single electrical device fail. My Amiga 1200, Atari Lynx, PS 1,2,3 Fat, Xbox never had a PC die or laptop (just replaced when they got old) all my mp3 and mp4 players, VCR players, DVD players Amplifiers, TV's and mobile phones all worked fine. The only problem I've ever had was my washer dryer would no longer dry.

Axe994027d ago

I think it varies - I've had more failures from our PCs ad laptops than consoles in my experience (and have had failures from both). Not getting a 360 at launch probably helped though ;).

He may have been commenting on reliability of performance though - PC games have a much larger range of potential problems when running (just go to any 'tech issues' forum of a PC game) than console games, because of the multiple hardware and OS (eg; Win XP/Vista/7/8) iterations. For example, I'm enjoying the Witcher at the moment, but it's CTD'd more times in 20 hours than Skyrim on the PS3 did (freeze in this case, consoles do that more than CTD) in 140. When you get a game on console, the vast majority of the time it runs well first time. On PC, there's a far greater chance of needing to play with settings or download some VB.Net add-on (which you'll have to trawl through forums to track down) before things'll work (that example is from Mass Effect ;)).

Both systems are great - I game on PC and PS3, with a side helping of 360 - but I'd easily rate the PC as the least reliable, as long as you've got a recent model of 360 ;).

NYC_Gamer4028d ago

It's always better to own PC&console since both offer different experiences

Corpser4028d ago

Yep can't imagine being a console-only or PC-only gamer

nthstew4028d ago

I own both high-end pc and consoles because it gives me more options for gaming ..

Tundra4028d ago

I'm primarily PS3/PC here. It's pretty much the perfect set up for me.

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AMD FSR 3.1 Announced at GDC 2024, FSR 3 Available and Upcoming in 40 Games

Last September, we unleashed AMD FidelityFX™ Super Resolution 3 (FSR 3)1 on the gaming world, delivering massive FPS improvements in supported games.

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Eonjay28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

So to put 2 and 2 together... FSR 3.1 is releasing later this year and the launch game to support it is Rachet and Clank: Rift Apart. In Sony's DevNet documentation it shows Rachet and Clank: Rift Apart as the example for PSSR. PS5 Pro also launches later this year... but there is something else coming too: AMD RDNA 4 Cards (The very same technology thats in the Pro). So, PSSR is either FSR 3.1 or its a direct collaboration with AMD for that builds on FSR 3.1. Somehow they are related. I think PSSR is FSR 3.1 with the bonus of AI... now lets see if RDNA 4 cards also include an AI block.

More details:
FSR 3.1 fixes Frame Generation
If you have a 30 series RTX card you can now use DLSS3 with FSR Frame Generation (No 40 Series required!)
Its Available on all Cards (we assume it will come to console)
Fixes Temporal stability

MrDead28d ago

I've been using a mod that allows dlss frame gen on my 3080 it works on all rtx series. It'll be good not to rely on mods for the future.

darksky27d ago

The mods avaiable are actually using FSR3 frame gen but with DLSS or FSR2 upscaling.

Babadook727d ago (Edited 27d ago )

I think that the leaks about the 5 Pro would debunk the notion that the two (FSR 3.1 and PSSR) are the same technology. PSSR is a Sony technology.

MrDead28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

I wonder how much they fixed the ghosting in dark areas as Nvidia are leaving them in the dust with image quality. Still good that they are improving in big leaps, I'll have to see when the RTX5000 series is released who I go with... at the moment the RTX5000's are sounding like monsters.

just_looken28d ago

Did you see the dell leaks were they are trying to cool cards using over 1k watts of power.

We are going to need 220 lines for next gen pcs lol

MrDead28d ago

That's crazy! Sounds like heating my house won't be a problem next winter.

porkChop27d ago

As much as I hate supporting Nvidia, AMD just doesn't even try to compete. Their whole business model is to beat Nvidia purely on price. But I'd rather pay for better performance and better features. AMD also doesn't even try to innovate. They just follow Nvidia's lead and make their own version of whatever Nvidia is doing. But they're always 1 or 2 generations behind when it comes to those software/driver innovations, so Nvidia is always miles ahead in quality and performance.

MrDead27d ago

I do a lot of work on photoshop so an Intel Nvidia set up has been the got to because of performance edge, more expensive but far more stable too. Intel also have the edge over AMD processors with better load distribution on the cores, less spikes and jitters. When you're working large format you don't want lag or spikes when you're editing or drawing.

I do think AMD has improved massively though and whist I don't think they threaten Nvidia on the tech side they do make very well priced cards and processors for the power. I'm probably going with a 5080 or 5090 but AMD will get a little side look from me, which is a first in a long time... but like you said they are a generation or two behind at the moment.

Goosejuice27d ago

While I can't argue for amd gpu, they aren't bad but they aren't great either. The cpu for amd have great. I would argue the 7800x3d as one of the best cpu for gaming right now. Idk about editing so I take ur word for that but gaming amd cpu is a great option these days.

porkChop26d ago

@Goosejuice

I have a 7800X3D. It certainly is great for gaming. Though for video editing, rendering, etc, I think Intel have the advantage from what I remember. I just mean from a GPU standpoint I can't support them.

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AMD storm Nvidia's Super launch party with temporary price cut to RX 7900 XT

Now that the RTX 4070 Super has launched, AMD have chopped the price of the RX 7900 XT to new lows.

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AMD Radeon 700M "RDNA 3" iGPUs Recieve Fluid Motion Frames Support, Brings FPS-Boost To Gamers

AMD has expanded its Fluid Motion Frames (AFMF) tech to Radeon 700M iGPUs which play a major role in laptops, handhelds & desktops.

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Tapani100d ago

The ideal FPS would be for Steam Deck 45fps which is boosted to match the 90hz screen. However, today's new games are not on that level even on the OLED version, so the successor to Phoenix Point needs to come out fast. The 2nd Gen Steam Deck needs a VRR screen as well to make this doable. 2025 should be the year for such a device.

XBManiac100d ago

Or you need to play games better suited for Steam Deck. What would be great is a more powerful version of Steam Deck with higher specs for latest games. But... it will take a couple of years, it seems, as Gabe is waiting for a real next gen Zen+RDNA really portable kit.

Tapani99d ago

You are right, it really does come down to understanding what your Steam Deck can play and how. And that to me, is a bit of a pain to deal with. For a portable, I have zero interest in tuning anything, and just want to pick up and play. To do so in the PC space, you are correct, there needs to be a real next gen APU available.

That being said, I really appreciate there are these devices and can see how people like using them. To me the Steam Deck or any PC handheld should be a device which can continue the AAA games I play on my 4090 when I'm on the go.

Personally, I'm waiting for Strix Point, RDNA 3.5 at 16CU and an OLED VRR 90-120hz screen and better memory bandwidth. This should play AAA games at low settings at locked 40 or 45 fps which would be great already for a handheld. When Strix Point is out, most of the non-Valve PC handheld manufacturers have already sorted out the kinks in their software as well, so there should be a good maturity in 2024 or 2025 in these devices.

I do think, though, that Fluid Motion Frames will be a technique that these handhelds will benefit a lot from in the coming years as it spreads.