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Multiplatform Games will look better on PS4

Multiplatform games always looked better on XBOX 360 and even PS3 fans can’t deny the fact. Cell processor in PlayStation 3 was very complicated and was not easy to develop on as a result XBOX 360 became the first choice for developers, we witnessed some really bad PS3 ports like Bayonetta, Skyrim, Half Life and not to mention games often get delayed due to the complications in development. Well those days are not going to last much long as Sony is going to release Playstation 4

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SlavisH24029d ago (Edited 4029d ago )

We know nothing about the next xbox, not even its name. We could wait for ...um some specs or ...um a annoncement but your way is more logical :P

P.S. I don't care about rumors they are rumors!

iGAM3R-VIII4029d ago

I do have to agree, when E3 comes and both systems launch and we get a clear answer we will see, but based on all of the things Cerney said about its infastructure and it is easy to develop and PC like, the games could be easier.

When E3 is here all shall be told....

miyamoto4028d ago

The article really did not nail why PS4 multi-plats will look better on PS4 than next Xbox.
and there was no point of comparison.

IMHO opinion if PS4 is easy and faster to make games on it will be the saved development time and developers talent that will be huge factors on how PS4 games will looks better than the competition.

Muffins12234029d ago

Yes we do,the leaked specs.We know they are true due to the fact Microsoft got the fbi to raid his house for it.Not only that, all indie developers are going towards the ps4 and not the next xbox because its easier to develop for and if its easier to develop for then games will generally look better on better hardware and easier to develop for hardware.And guess what...sony has both of those advantages.

iGAM3R-VIII4029d ago

Yes totally agree, I have a feeling about the PS4 this year :)

Oh_Yeah4029d ago (Edited 4029d ago )

Except your forgetting Xbox uses direct x while PS4 uses a variant of OpenGL... Most devs prefer direct x...hence why xbox was the lead platform for most multiplat games.. I see it going the same way next gen. ALTHOUGH since PS4 has a x86 architecture it is easier to port to.. So I expect even if xbox is leading platform again that it now truly depends on who has the best hardware to determine which version of a game will look/perform better.

raytraceme4029d ago

Well valve and a lot of other devs are taking initiative to move into linux gaming (steam big picture) thus requiring the switch to OpenGL. The ps4 has that advantage thus it will be even game in terms of lead platforms.

Oh_Yeah4029d ago (Edited 4029d ago )

@raytraceme yeah hopefully devs do start using OpenGL more..I don't think I'm buying the next xbox from what I've been hearing..so I'd like if PS4 is lead platform more next gen. And funny how if you say anything positive about xbox on this site you get disagrees out the ass lol. I bash on the xbox too.. Go through my comments but I also am not a fan boy, I know xbox shined over ps3 when it came to multiplat games..that was it though and it'd kinda suck if that happened again...because Microsoft isn't exactly about the gamers.

dcbronco4029d ago

Both consoles are rumored to use the same GPU and CPU but one will be easier to program for. If that is the case it will most likely be the Xbox. Because of DX11 and MS is better at tools than Sony. No one can honestly argue tools.

And fanboys believe every bad Xbox rumor but none that would make it better. Leak after leak shows dual GPUs on the next Xbox. SuperDAE said the Xbox was better. Why don't these people believe him on that. The only leaks we know that are accurate are the ones we know came from within MS. Their lawyers tried to stop that leak. And that shows dual GPU and 3 CPUs that make the XBox a more powerful machine.

If we're going to believe rumors.

ichimaru4029d ago (Edited 4029d ago )

I wouldn't bet the kitchen sink on leaked specs from a year old model, its not profitable. both ps3 and the 360 underwent various models and hardware changes before the.final product.a complete yr is a long time for better judgement and Innovation

dcbronco4029d ago (Edited 4029d ago )

I think people that believe these consoles are going to be extremely expensive to make are thinking retail prices. The leaks show one of the chips or both being ARM chips. In that case you're talking about really cheap chips. The SoC in the iPad 2 cost Apple $15 each. AMD chips will be more. But not nearly as much as what it cost for a separate CPU and GPU at 90nm. These are APUs at 28nm.

The huge cost savings on thew 360 and PS3 after launch come mainly from going from 90nm to 45 nm. The 360 going to an APU lower that price even more.

But I agree on the various models. There have been a lot of different leaks about the 720 specs. That's why no one really knows what it will contain.

cyhm31124028d ago

+1
Those who says we have to wait until they reveal the xbox to know the specs are just like those people who doesn't admit their wives cheating on them unless they tell them so even they saw two of them hugging each other in a dark place. obvious is obvious, some people just don't have any clue. You don't need to draw intestines of a cartoon character, do you?

CraigandDayDay4028d ago

" The PS4 sees Sony move to a 64-bit x86 chip architecture, which will be music to the ears of developers, especially those used to working on PC games. The good news doesn’t stop there, though. Developers will be able to take advantage of Microsoft’s latest industry standard DirectX API — DirectX 11.1, but Sony has taken the time to improve upon it, pushing the feature set beyond what is available for PC games development. "

http://www.geek.com/games/s...

Sony will use DirectX as well in the PS4.

dcbronco4028d ago

@cyhm3112

While Sony has had one leak on the PS4 as far as architecture(a couple of potential GPUs), the 720 has had a lot of them. Since their have been so many we don't know about the 720. It could be any combination of the things we've heard and some things we haven't.

Read the forums on NeoGaf and Beyond 3D and they are talking about a lot of things I've never read a thing about on N4G. They don't believe the 720 will have DDR3. Because of some of previous leaks make it not fit with the architecture. Many there believe it will be DDR4. Which has a larger bandwidth.

http://wccftech.com/amd-kav...

So we really don't know what the 720 will have. We really don't know the PS4 either since Sony stated the specs aren't set.

JP13694028d ago (Edited 4028d ago )

dcbronco

I'm on GAF quite a bit and the only people I see speculating about the 720's RAM are desperate fanboys that don't want to believe that their console of choice might be underpowered relative to the PS4. The only thing we know so far is that VGLeaks proved themselves reputable with respect to the Vita and now PS4. The documentation they have on the successor to the 360 - which is something in the range of 90 pages - points to said machine using the came CPU and a weaker GPU than PS4, tied together with DDR3 RAM. If true, the system is going to be weaker than its direct competition, regardless of move engines or secret sauce.

Edit: There was far more than just one leak in regard to PS4. Either you have a terrible memory or you're engaged in some mental gymnastics. There were rumors of dual APU, APU+GPU and finally the current set up, just with different CPUs and GPUs being swapped in and out.

dcbronco4027d ago

@JP1369

Let's VGleaks has been accurate. About which Durango rumors since there have been many? I mean specs wise. Is it about two APUs and a BC chip? Is it when SuperDAE said the Durango was better? SuperDAE seems to be the main source. Funny Sony fans ignore that he said that Durango was better. Well, not really.

We know what Sony has said on the PS4. Though they said that the specs aren't set. There have been rumors that the 720 GPU will be far more efficient than normal GPUs making the consoles about the same. I refuse to trust the opinion of anyone(not saying you) that only believes rumors from one side. Only a fool does that.

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DigitalRaptor4029d ago

Digital Foundry will be on the case.

Not just that, but the developers will tell us, just like they told us how problematic PS3 was to develop for.

Since we've already heard how vocal some of them have been about MS/Sony next gen situation, they will be sure to let us know.

JaredH4029d ago (Edited 4029d ago )

I agree. Even if there is a difference it will be like last gen where some games will run and look marginally better on one console over the other. People will most likely not even notice the differences. Those who frequent the websites that exploit fanboy ideals will though.

Monstar4028d ago

stop using the tougue pocking emoticon to try and get more likes.

indysurfn4028d ago

First I will get this out of the way. This article IS biased! You can see it with statements like JUST more bells and whistle! But don't apply the same 'JUST' attitude to a AMD chip that is also x86 from laptops, and PC's. But that is the old me taking objection.

I want PS4 to win this Generation. Not just because Microsoft is testing our reaction to having access to my living room with a camera at all times. Not just because Microsoft is testing our reaction to blocking used games(using internet validation), because after all not too long ago so did Sony. But because Microsoft is testing it for the 3rd year in a row, and are desperate for it to be acceptable. I think they don't want to believe our previous reactions. And are emboldened by the few people that are blindly supporting them, like the PS2 fanboys did on paying a lot for the PS3. We need to stand up to them let us not be like the PS2 fanfools($600 console, $2000 on ebay), and get what we said we would put up with. Let us be the smart ones. I'm begging all this easy to develop for talk will be true this time! Yeah I know I'm saying rough things to both sides, and will get 100% disagrees. It is worth it!

xXxSeTTriPxXx4028d ago

Duh he read this from a fortune cookie, get with the times bro.baseless analysis is the new logic jezz.

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ilikecookies4028d ago

This must be some high school kids English project. This is so horribly written and not even news it just tells us what we already know. Move along now nothing to see here.

nthstew4028d ago

don't really care about next xbox any more with 3 or 4 exclusive and Kinect I don't give a shit.

P.S PlayStation 4 for me. If the hardware is more efficient than xbox definitely it will have better visuals #deal with it.. :0

Psn8004028d ago

He isn't talking about next gen consoles ?

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Hellsvacancy4029d ago (Edited 4029d ago )

I remember reading that developers had to sign an agreement with MS that no PS3 multiplatform game can look any better than the 360 version, was that true?

I swear I read that somewhere

If its true, I hope it dont happen again

Byeka4029d ago

nope. Due to the complicated architecture PS3 had development on PS3 required a lot of time and resource which no one was ready to invest as that didn't really effect the sales and profits much So most of the ports turn out to be pretty bad.

AAWELLS094029d ago

Has Microsoft already revealed the 720 to you? How did you get this inside information? If you dont have some secret info that noone else has than you're gonna look really stupid.

Minato-Namikaze4029d ago

MS did have a anti competition policy. It's the reason why ps exclusives don't come to the 360 later. MS protected their inferior system, if not then maybe more MP titles would be near the 1st party titles of sony.

DOMination-4028d ago

Sony have the exact same policy regarding ex. Timed exclusives.

Nitrowolf24029d ago (Edited 4029d ago )

The agreement was that Developers had to agree to publish their games at the same time if it was a PSN/XBLA otherwise MS can pretty much deny it.

For on disc games they had to have the same content, or they can deny that to, which honestly they really havn't from what we've seen.

You are correct though as even some publishers have felt that.

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

"Not all agree, however. One representative from a publisher who wished to remain anonymous told Eurogamer Microsoft's policy blocks developers from taking advantage of other platforms' strengths.

"Microsoft is suggesting that anything but parity will result in them not carrying a title. They may think this is competitive, but it's not. They are killing any creative exposure of titles to make up for their own platform's shortcomings."

M2-4029d ago

You do realize that, that is MS's XBLA policy? Basically it means MS can refuse to "publish" XBLA games if the game is not equal to other platforms (content) or is released on other platforms first. It doesn't mean MS will block the game from XBLA it means they will not publish it.

Nitrowolf24029d ago (Edited 4029d ago )

That's what I just said -_-

The part about blocking isn't about MS blobking the game, it's blocking developers from taking advantage of other hardware out there.

A policy is pretty much an agreement, they are guildlines that must be meet.

M2-4029d ago

@Nitrowolf2

That policy is regarding downloadable games. The quote you posted is referring to the XBLA platform, it's not referring to hardware.

Oh_Yeah4029d ago

Kind of, it was a contract saying that if there were any missing features or they decided to release a game at a later date on the xbox 360 that Microsoft has a right and may refuse the game entirely.

BrianC62344029d ago

I hope this is true but we all know the PS3 is more powerful than the 360 so why don't they make their PS3 games look like Sony's PS3 games look? Do they want to help Microsoft? There's no reason to not push the PS3 harder than they do now.

pete0074028d ago

PS3 more powerfull? Just Like a top Ferrari With no tyres. The gpu was crap, 360 gpu was Way better. Cell was stronger but a cpu still a cpu.
Now go search better excuses, a PS3 game costs 3 Times To develop than a 360 one

BrianC62344028d ago

Yes, the PS3 is a lot more powerful. The GPU doesn't even matter. The Cell processor can handle a lot of what the GPU would do. For proof the PS3 is more powerful you just have to look at Sony's first party games. They're always better than everything else.

Gamer-404029d ago

Yes, i think this true, Ps4 better and powerful hardware than new Xbox.

I dont understand why make this Microsoft:S

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Is Driver (PS1) Still Worth Playing in 2024?

"Driver was a technical achievement for PS1, a pioneer in cinematic gaming, and an often brutal challenge - TechStomper asks if its brand of 70s car chase antics still holds up."

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PrimeVinister4d ago

The driving holds up, most of everything else does not.

PrimeVinister4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

@Shane Kim

Well, I mean the driving physics hold up. The draw distance, police AI, visuals in general etc do not

Cacabunga4d ago

One of my all time favorites on PS1. I spent a summer vacation playing this was so good

isarai4d ago

Sadly youd be hard pressed to find any driving game with better physics these days. But the draw distance really kills it for me

PrimeVinister4d ago

The physics hold up ridiculously well. And the draw distance is a real hurdle at first.

__y2jb4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Nonsense. The physics in any modern game or any 360 game is light years beyond Driver.

Dandizzle4d ago

This game is hard, you will fail and quit

PrimeVinister4d ago

But you will get there eventually... maybe

jznrpg4d ago

Stop with is it worth it articles. If you want to play a game play the damn game!

anast4d ago

I loved this game awhile back.

Barlos3d ago

Yeah but is it worth reading pointless articles?

__y2jb4d ago

It wasn’t worth playing in the 90’s.

Espangerish4d ago

My thoughts exactly. I bought it at release for full price and got frustrated and bored with it very quickly.

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Is Gran Turismo (PS1) Still Worth Playing in 2024?

Gran Turismo for PlayStation launched a sub-genre and revolutionised console racing - TechStomper asks is it still worth playing in 2024.

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Terry_B6d ago

Well..you can play it completely offline at least ^^

PrimeVinister6d ago

Something we really miss, just turning on the console and having the game start without signing into stuff

Terry_B6d ago

Fully agreed. That and Splitscreen Modes for Racing games.

PrimeVinister6d ago

@Terry_B I miss having people to splitscreen with, but I can't blame anyone for that :-(

Cacabunga6d ago

Not too late.. we can still change that.

PrimeVinister6d ago

@Cacabunga I will let you in, see ya soon compadre :-P

MrBaskerville5d ago

@Terry_B
GT7 actually has 4 player splitscreen. Which is wild in this day and age.

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TiredGamer6d ago

Good news is that Sony released a final update to Gran Turismo Sport to allow it to function offline. Expecting the same for GT7 at some point in the future.

PrimeVinister6d ago

That is great news, I really liked Sport even if many others did not :-/

Chocoburger6d ago

I'm not big into sim racing, but I got sucked into the hype for this one from magazines back then. I just played arcade mode and that was enough for me to feel like I got my money's worth.

Yeah, it's definitely worth playing today. GT 2 has a few interesting fan made graphical mods when played on an emulator as well.

PrimeVinister6d ago

The arcade mode is underrated, it's a great alternative mode and you can even unlock GT HiFi with it.

Fonsecap6d ago

Cars back then had much more personality then those we see today. Modern cars all about the led lights and the tablet size screens and they all seem alike, back then they could be simpler in design but had tons more personality.

PrimeVinister6d ago

That is something a few people have pointed out - that cars all look the same now. I have to agree that a lot of new vehicles lack personality.

fsfsxii6d ago

You guys are so anti-fun its depressing, like who tf cares about personality of objects like wtf? Just learn to enjoy stuff as is.

PrimeVinister6d ago

It's hardly anti-fun to remark that some objects look nicer than others.

And everyone has their favourite era of cars, I sincerely doubt many will pick the 2020s a few decades from now.

Fonsecap6d ago

Dude, like wft cares about personality of objects? What about art? Paintings are objects and they're considered good or bad if they show or lack personality so I ask, wtf are you talking about? Cars are also considered pieces of art, vintage cars, classic cars, classic bikes and so on. Artists are appreciated by the objects they craft, blacksmiths, painters, engineers, designers, so wtf cares about personality of objects indeed... ( Sorry for my English, it's not my native language)

MrBaskerville5d ago

Talking about cars is fun if you are a car enthusiast. Just saying.

ApocalypseShadow6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

That Corvette Stingray to this day is one of the most ferocious whips ever driven. Overpowered against other cars yes. But to drive it and be that close to losing control, but being in command around those curves, just can't be duplicated.

HiFi mode is also something I miss. There should be a mode in today's GT where it's Mano o Mano and the detail and resolution jump full throttle. In today's games, Max Ray Tracing and lighting and textures to make it look even more real..

PrimeVinister6d ago

A modern HiFi mode would be really cool! It would be really interesting to see how real they could go by stripping it all way back.

And Stingray is a solid choice 👌

TiredGamer6d ago

HiFi mode in GT1 was only a stripped down 60 fps mode for one track. Should have been called "Performance Mode" or "High Frame Rate" mode.

PrimeVinister6d ago

@TiredGamer it was only three tracks, but it was still cool

Petebloodyonion6d ago

Not according to Former Playstation president Jim Ryan for he told Time that he doesn't see why anyone would play old games given the advancements in fidelity achieved today.

https://time.com/4804768/pl...

PrimeVinister6d ago

I don't agree with him, but he had a few good points.

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PlayStation 1 Classics Forgotten for One Reason or Another

The original PlayStation library has dozens of classics long since forgotten - TechStomper unearths five of these gems which have been lost to time for one reason or another.

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BlackCountryBob10d ago

Disruptor PS1, a pre Goldeneye console FPS from 1996 (with Command and Conquer type FMV cutscenes) and the first game by a pre Spyro Insomniac Studios directed by Mark Cerny. A good game for its time, and pre Bioshock use of telekinesis type powers. A game sadly almost completely lost to time

PrimeVinister10d ago

I have never even heard of it, so that must be a deep cut. Sounds really interesting and I might dig it out :-)

PrimeVinister10d ago

@Cacabunga A classic, no doubt. But, fondly remembered by many.

Cacabunga10d ago

First one was so good but second one on another level!!!
Still hoping to see a next gen version..

PrimeVinister10d ago

@Cacabunga Yeah, I preferred II for the real-timier combat. I would love to see both remade or remastered.

on_line_forever10d ago

We need to bring back the golden era of ps1 & ps2 .
We need to see quality games developed with alot of passion to make gamers satisfied .
We need to benefit from new AI technology to bring something new to games something like " nemesis systems " that used in shadow of morder and upgrade it to next level

PrimeVinister9d ago

The economics of games has changed a lot since the PS1 and PS2. As much as I would love a return to those days, it's not not at all likely.