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Has Microsoft Vs Sony Become The New Cola War

Skewed and Reviewed have posted a fun opinion piece that compares the console battle between Sony and Microsoft to the Coke vs Pepsi Cola Wars. The article cites how both companies have passionate fans and will throw huge amounts of money into ad campaigns to try to win over undecided consumers.

NastyLeftHook04043d ago (Edited 4043d ago )

good analogy.

and coca cola destroys pepsi.

@snookies12, im a coca cola fan myself.

Snookies124043d ago (Edited 4043d ago )

Lol, this is a rather great analogy... My friend likes Pepsi and prefers the 360, where as I like Coca Cola and prefer the PS3... XD

Ezz20134043d ago

lol i love Pepsi more and prefers the ps3 by alot

hehe, so much for that analogy.

Wenis4043d ago

Mountain Dew is the best actually.. and thats not even an opinion its a fact

MikeMyers4043d ago

I prefer RC Cola myself.

Reverent4043d ago

@Wenis, Mountain Dew has NOTHING on Coca Cola, or even Pepsi. I'm sorry but that's the silliest thing I've heard all day. There's a reason Coke is the most famous brand of soda to date.

adorie4043d ago

Ya know say? *sips on tea*

PinkFunk4043d ago

Uh, Ginger Ale > all. That is pure fact, nothing "opinion" about that. Just pure, scientific, unbiased, objective, FACT.

Thank you.

MasterCornholio4043d ago

Beer owns all.

Motorola RAZR i

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jcnba284043d ago

Sony = Pepsi
Micorosft = Coca Cola
Nintendo = Jagermeister

Snookies124043d ago

How is Nintendo alcohol...?

deep_fried_bum_cake4043d ago

Snookies12

Because you wake up the morning after buying it feeling an immense regret.

dedicatedtogamers4043d ago

Sony vs Microsoft is the cola war?

Sure, if Sony is Pepsi selling Pepsi cola and Microsoft is Coca-Cola who stops selling Coke and starts selling green-tea health drinks to hippies.

Yeah, then the analogy would work.

chukamachine4043d ago

I like both cola and pepsi.

But Ms just took the piss with customers.

Broken hardware, time and time again.
Pay to play.
Dribble out games from time to time.

I would not touch a 720 even if it had twice the power of the PS4.

himdeel4043d ago

There was never a Cola war. You can go to any country in the world, getting at a Coke is easier than getting clean water. That other drink need not be mentioned ever again.

Coke 4ever

kreate4043d ago

i dont think ppl really care about pepsi/cola.
more ppl care about microsoft/sony.

SilentNegotiator4043d ago (Edited 4043d ago )

The only time I see an Coke v. Pepsi war is when someone makes an analogical comparison or when joking with friends at the diner table. And that usually lasts 5 seconds and goes as deep as "This tastes better"

While 360 v. Ps3 debates happen all over the internet, last as long as days, and goes as deep as discussing games, capabilities, features, etc, etc, etc.

And on top of it all, both Coke and Pepsi tastes like piss and will give you cancer if you keep drinking the one that's "better" for you. Ps3 and 360 neither taste like piss nor give you cancer.

"Ps3/360 = Coke/Pepsi" is a TERRIBLE analogy.

Rageanitus4043d ago

BAD analogy.... because standard pepsi and coca cola will always have the same similar great taste depending which you prefer.

kinect and the move light controler dont do it for me.

ImpliedDeception4043d ago

OK Cola and the Sega Genesis win, because I'm presently trapped Motherf***ing 1994...

Access to future internet rocks, though.

Conzul4043d ago

Nah Coke is too sweet. Prefer Pepsi now.
Playstation FTW!

Oh_Yeah4042d ago

Pepsi wins, they had their own video game on ps1 and it was kick ass. https://www.youtube.com/wat...

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Garethvk4043d ago

Thank you. It came to me earlier this morning. I used to ask why do Coke and Pepsi spend so much on ads especially during the Super Bowl. People prefer one to the other and no matter how much they spend that is not going to change the status quo. I know the goal is to try to get a few of the other sides supporters to try your new stuff and so on. But Xbox fans are not going to jump on the PS 4 bandwagon and vice versa regardless of how much money they spend. It is money spent to give the impression of dominance and to gather in the undecided parties. But in the end, Xbox fans will get the new Xbox and Playstation fans will get the PS 4 regardless of how much money they both spend.

NastyLeftHook04043d ago (Edited 4043d ago )

pepsi abandoned its hardcore flavor and goes more easy on the taste (*which happened) so people now go for coke. the original og.

rainslacker4043d ago

I think the analogy is good in the sense that both are a meaningless debate when it comes to preference. But taste is usually recognized as extremely subjective, and rarely do I see supporters get bent out of shape over someone liking a different flavor. With consoles there are quantifiable comparisons that can be made between them, and some of those comparisons can have a basis in subjectivity and still be completely valid.

As far as console marketing, I believe it plays a very important part of getting people to know that the system exists, and to build up desirability of the product itself. Sony definitely had weak marketing in the US(not sure about the rest of the world), and MS and Nintendo had extremely strong marketing. That undoubtedly had a huge effect on the outcome of this generation in terms of sales and mind-share.

Garethvk4043d ago

Which makes me wonder if either of them is going to set themselves up for a New Coke failure where they change what worked for them so much that the fans revolt and they have to go back to the way things were.

I still think Classic Coke was the plan all along as they went from New Coke to Classic Coke in a few weeks. It did not take them long at all to have the new name, look, and product in the store which I believe indicates that they had it stockpiled and just moved it up when the reaction to New Coke was so bad.

urwifeminder4043d ago

Pepsi and microsoft for me hate coke.

ExCest4043d ago

Yea coke ruined my life. After spending so much money, breaking up my family, and ending up on the streets, I wish I never started with that first gram.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere4h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN2h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

PassNextquestion4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger2h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Profchaos4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto4h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos3h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long43m ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel3h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator2h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg5h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos5h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola32m ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10111d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref10d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde10d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197210d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville10d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218310d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos10d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai11d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref10d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan10d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0079d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197211d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref10d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde10d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197210d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197210d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier10d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto10d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218310d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto10d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman10d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts10d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts9d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic10d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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