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Why Does Battlefield 4 Have Single-Player?

After the 17-minute "Fishing in Baku" trailer was released, Jeff from Holygrenade wonders why DICE even included a campaign when the game doesn't need it.

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Snookies124037d ago

The trailer looked great, but honestly... I kind of wish they would just focus on multi-player only. (This coming form someone who rarely plays online.) BF4 is most definitely at its best during online battles. The inclusion of single-player only takes away from development time that could have been used for the multi-player portion of the game.

JoGam4037d ago

When that question start getting asked, i start wondering are we losing sight of what makes games great.

Snookies124037d ago

Do not get me wrong. I am EXTREMELY pro single-player games. I would MUCH rather have an amazing single-player campaign than a multi-player portion. However with Battlefield, it's the opposite. The single-player has never really been that good, but the multi-player is amazing.

a_bro4036d ago

@JoGam

Thank you for asking that question.

Dude4204036d ago

Playing skirmishes with bots need to come back...

MikeMyers4036d ago (Edited 4036d ago )

JoGam,
"When that question start getting asked, i start wondering are we losing sight of what makes games great."

Well in the case of Battlefield it's actually the multiplayer. It is the area most gamers prefer. A game like Bioshock is the opposite. Some games are much better for it's single player campaign while others are for the multiplayer. Some can do both well.

SOCOM is another example of a game that doesn't really need a single player campaign. I think the reason why they add it is to justify the $60 price tag. When you have a game that is solely multiplayer like MAG it's harder to convince gamers to pay full price even though that is where gamers will migrate to. So what they should do is sell each portion of the game separately.

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Derekvinyard134037d ago

Bf3 campaign wasn't the best nor the worst but multiplayer was amazing, I do agree with you that bf is a multiplayer game but single player never hurts

Murad4036d ago

I honestly felt like killing myself when playing BF3 single player on hard mode. The campaign is ridiculously repetitive and has little to no good script writing. In all honesty, the Black Ops campaign is easily beats BF3's campaign in a heartbeat without any doubt in my mind. This is very apparent in many reviews that "actually" played the single player mode, for example, Angry Joe's review of BF3 in which he goes in-depth as to how the campaign sucked.

Spenok4036d ago

This is pretty much the way I feel. The SP in BF3 was forgettable, however at least worth playing through once.

A lot of people don't realize the BF franchise was built on MP only.

However the move to console's make the inclusion of SP absolutely necessary. While most of home console owners have access to the internet, there are still a goodly number of people who lack an internet connection. And Dice is thinking about these people who wouldn't have access to the MP. And lets not forget the people who would actually care (or even prefer in some cases) to play a game Single Player.

Sure, you can throw out that other games on consoles in the past have been MP only, such as MAG, Socom: Confrontation and ShadowRun. However we all know how prominent those games are.

While a game like Battlefield might be better as simply a Multiplayer only title, it just doesn't make sense for 'most' games on consoles. So developers and publishers play it safe, and release them with SP as well. Also, Dice have proved themselves with SP games in the past with titles like Bad Company and Mirrors Edge. So, I personally wouldn't judge before you play BF4's SP.

Donnieboi4036d ago

Just because the SP hasn't been good before doesn't mean it can't get better later. And besides, DICE already hired a new story writer. Also, this notion that the multiplayer suffers due to the team working on single player (or vice versa) is utter nonsense. There is no evidence to suggest that that is true.

gedapeleda4036d ago

I agree I'd prefer more maps in mp to sp campaign which will be borring.The only bf campaign that was kind of good was bc1 because it was diffrent, instead of saving the world you're just trying to get rich and steal that precious gold.

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Upbeat4037d ago

Its so people that dont have internet or very poor ocnnections can still play and purchase the game id asume.

MidnytRain4036d ago

Yeah, the typical "let's please everyone" approach. I understand why businesses do it, but the product itself usually suffers...

Shadonic4037d ago

Why does the dark Knight Rises have story? Why not just give us 2-3 hours of batman fighting.

jon12344036d ago

haha thats funny, but battlefield started as a online only game, it would be awesome if all they did was develop MP maps for the game, but knowing EA, they would milk the hell out of it :(

DigitalSmoke4036d ago (Edited 4036d ago )

Single Player shooters for me, have been the biggest snore fests around.
Stupid enemy Ai, tons and tons of the same enemy's, and the new trend in rolercoaster animation sit downs doesn't change anything.

Multiplayer is what Battlefield is about, its a shame Dice isn't using their full team on it.

I think the single player FPS is made for new players who fresh for skilled online play.

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EA Hopes to Use Generative AI to Drive Monetization and Make Development 30% More Efficient

Today Electronic Arts CEO Andrew Wilson provided a look into his ideas for the use of generative AI in the company's development processes.

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thorstein40d ago

I wonder what the next buzz word they'll slap in front of AI to make it sound exciting next? "Generative" as if it's creating its own content. Lol.

Cacabunga39d ago

EA is already dying a painful death..

peppeaccardo39d ago

i have a better idea .. why the whole exec team doesn't get replaced by chat bots ?

just_looken40d ago

Though i agree the ai thing is already in other forms of media there have been ai translations/scripts/voice over and even full ai commercials aired on tv. Ubisoft has created a ai game creator story/vo/music except the building of the game

The new unreal engine has auto terrain creation tools

In the world of greed in which it is winning without any major blow back ai is our future.

everyone want's biden dead on the mic or a criminal instead of a woman and now we are getting ai everything because no one will stop watching/playing ai created media.

GamerRN39d ago

Maybe they should just focus on making good games?

Just a thought...

Kiryu199239d ago

Exactly EA are just pure evil. When they are beating Bank of America to be voted the worst company to work for that’s saying a lot

Good thing I don’t buy their games day one and wait for deep deep sale years after launch (the select few games I am actually interested in)

Gaming is making so much money yet the greed of these companies is never ending

CEO’s and people on board making millions yet cutting jobs to those who are actually making the products

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Knightofelemia40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

EA is still a shady shitty company even with or without the help of Skynet. All they will use AI for is new ways to milk loot boxes and come up with the same sports title with a different year on the label. They are one company I truly do hate with a passion. They single handedly ruined some great franchise with their death touch. ME, Dead Space, Alice Returns, Dante's Inferno.

Stuart575640d ago

EA layoffs followed by 'Generative AI to Drive Monetization'

I knew it. Wonder what AI salary looks like? Nothing.

ChasterMies39d ago

I having a feeling that most of the layoffs in the industry are based on the idea that AI will do the same job for less.

DarXyde39d ago

Very likely, yes.

Made worse by the fact that the execs aren't changing their compensations.

My deepest fear at this point is that we are now in the capitalism endgame.

At this point, we really should just burn AI to the ground. Executives cannot be trusted to do the right thing.
How are those people expected to support families if everything gets automated?

Barlos40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

And take away creativity, and people's jobs as we've been seeing. Got it.

No thanks. I want my games created by people, not AI.

CobraKai40d ago

Exactly. If or when games start becoming more AI than people, im done with gaming. AI and companies like EA can suck donkey d***k.

just_looken40d ago

Though i agree remember this is no ps3/360 era were we got up to 3 games in one generation from on developer like gears/halo/bioware/sony/ms

The people today are pro esg/sweet baby for the most part AAA gaming is imploding right now.

We should be stepping back re evaluate everything as a whole this year xmen 97 written/directed by a woman that is nuts and its also being made by a group reshaping bodies to be less sexual like wtf. A dam famous cartoon from the 90's is being rebuilt with millions spent to be worse in everyway.

Gaming/movies/tv shows made today are worse than what we had 7years ago ai won't change this but that ai is also being made by these groups so either way we are screwed.
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Eonjay39d ago

Don't be of afraid of women. Sexy characters in games and movies still exist. Got my Stellar Blade on preorder!!! Everything all the time doesn't need to be sexual...that's stupid, childish and dull.

Chocoburger40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

EA doesn't want to lose their title of worst gaming company ever, always trying their best to remain the champs!
What's sad is that they have so much potential to be a decent publisher.

SSX Tricky / SSX 3
Def Jam Vendetta / Fight for New York
NBA Street
NFL Steet
Mirror's Edge
Bad Company
Burnout 3 / 4 / 5

Remember when EA used to be awesome? It's all over with now. Unpolished, if not out-right broken games these days. Endless monetization and gambling in their sports games, and let's not forget wasting hours of your life trying to unlock characters or equipment using "surprise boxes!"

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EA And Sony Layoffs, Entertainment News And More Skewedcast

Gareth, Justin, and JoeyZ look at Layoff news for EA and Sony and reasons behind the downturn in the industry and more.

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EA - Continuing to evolve our business and teams

EA CEO Andrew Wilson writes: "In this time of change, we expect these decisions to impact approximately 5 percent of our workforce. I understand this will create uncertainty and be challenging for many who have worked with such dedication and passion and have made important contributions to our company. While not every team will be impacted, this is the hardest part of these changes, and we have deeply considered every option to try and limit impacts to our teams. Our primary goal is to provide team members with opportunities to find new roles and paths to transition onto other projects. Where that’s not possible, we will support and work with each colleague with the utmost attention, care, and respect. Communicating these impacts has already begun and will be largely completed by early next quarter."

LG_Fox_Brazil47d ago

All the big ones doing the same stuff. Terrible. I just hope that all these people are able to get a new job as soon as possible, God know that it is horrible to be left jobless when you have your kids or your parents depending on your financial help

Jin_Sakai47d ago (Edited 47d ago )

2024 so far.

Feb ’28 Electronic Arts (EA) 670 (5%)
Feb ’24 PlayStation 900 (8%)
Feb ’24 Vice Media Group Several hundred
Feb ’24 Buzzfeed 16%
Feb ’24 NowThis 26 (50%)
Feb ’24 Paramount Global 800 (3%)
Feb ’24 SiriusXM 160 (3%)
Feb ’24 Snapchat 10%
Jan ’24 TechCrunch 8 + subscription product
Jan ’24 U.K.’s Channel 4 200
Jan ’24 Business Insider 8%
Jan ’24 Microsoft Gaming 1,900
Jan ’24 Riot Games 530
Jan ’24 Sports Illustrated Possibly all
Jan ’24 YouTube 100
Jan ’24 Pitchfork (Conde Nast) Undisclosed
Jan ’24 Universal Music Group Hundreds
Jan ’24 Discord 17%
Jan ’24 NBC News 50-100
Jan ’24 Audible 5%
Jan ’24 Google Hundreds
Jan ’24 Amazon Hundreds
Jan ’24 Duolingo 10%
Jan ’24 VideoAmp 20%

DATA AS OF FEB. 28, 2024

outsider162447d ago

Is it possible maybe this whole ai thing is in play?

just_looken47d ago

Another long list that skips over UPS cutting 12,000 jobs those workers as we know work without ac low pay and old box trucks but that company had to cut 12k jobs do too loosing billions of dollars year 2 year.

https://edition.cnn.com/202...

The greed and lack of transparency/oversight is disgusting.

Ups are still making bang but not enough for a golden boat fleet.

Remember we all use ups at some time even stuff in our stores this is going to be a huge issue gong forward i know in my area they removed half the state ups stores northern half least population got some 3rd party running packages now from minivans.

Sonic188146d ago

When I explan this I get called a troll 🤔 like wtf

thorstein46d ago

@just_looken

UPS is a different story altogether.

They are paying the people doing the actual work/ earning the money more and eliminating management.

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CrimsonWing6947d ago (Edited 47d ago )

You do realize around this time this happens all throughout many industries (not just the game industry), right? It has to do with taxes for these major companies, like tax subsidies for downsizing. You want to know a little secret? Around May or so you’ll see a spike in hiring…

It blows my mind that people are oblivious to corporate workings.

Andrew33647d ago

So over 25 huge companies cut jobs every year like this and it only got noticed this time?

CrimsonWing6947d ago (Edited 47d ago )

@Andrew336

Yes, that’s exactly what I’m saying. Google it up if you’re uninformed of how corporations work. Only gamers seem to live in a bubble and when they see things like crunch, acquisitions, and lay-offs they act like this is the only industry it happens to and how shocked they are about it.

Welcome to the real world, kid.

thorstein46d ago (Edited 46d ago )

EA CEO Wilson's total compensation was 20 million. Let's take away 19 million (I'm sure he can survive on 1 million.... somehow).

1 million is the salary of an in the chair developer @100,000 for 10 years.

He could earn 1 million a year.

And save the jobs of 15 in the chair devs for A DECADE (plus benefits) with ONE YEAR'S compensation.

RhinoGamer8847d ago

No Executive accountability or firings I see...

just_looken47d ago

Do not worry they will take over 40mill say sorry then get hired by playstation or xbox

blackblades46d ago

I heard Japan does it better, they do layoffs like what's happening with companies in the west. The higher ups also being agreeing to to lower there own salary. These MFs like jim and Phil isnt gonna do that they want that $

Sonic188147d ago

Like I said earlier, this is happening all around the gaming industry.

Petebloodyonion47d ago

The point I feel is problematic about all of this is that focusing on Owned Ip means more sequels, remasters and more of what was selling last year.

TheColbertinator47d ago

EA is certainly among the worst,if not the worst

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