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PlayStation 3 vs. PlayStation 4: Spec Showdown

Digital Trends - When Sony unveiled the PlayStation 3 console back in 2005 at E3, it was an impressive machine. The much-anticipated device and multimedia hub offered a new experience, allowing users to not only play games, but view photos, browse the Internet, and watch Blu-Ray discs all in glorious 1080p. Here we are seven years later and we’re equally impressed by Sony’s next-generation console — which pretty much blows its predecessor out of the water in a couple key areas.

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reynod4055d ago (Edited 4055d ago )

"Here we are seven years later and we’re equally impressed by Sony’s next-generation console"

How so? Sony literally blew Billions in research for the PS3.

The Cell for its time was def ahead of a low performance, power saving tablet CPU.

RSX was ahead of its time in comparison to the 7850-7870 Mobile GPU on the PS4.

Sony isn't introducing any new media format this time around. Hence its plain old bluray.

No Backward compatibility as the PS3 did feature.

The only thing going for the PS4 is the RAM, which to be honest doesnt really do any sort of calculations what so ever. Funnily enough its also the RAM that people have mostly been talking about (the CPU & GPU have just been ignored, with the PS3 release the CELL was the talk of the town not just some RAM). Almost gives you a feeling its Sony that tells the media what to talk about, Since they invested alot on the Cell thats what they wanted the media to talk about naturally the effect trickled down to the fans. This time around since the CPU and GPU are nothing special they need to talk about something else and since they dont have much else to talk about, they decide to focus on the RAM lol.

I wonder how we are EQUALLY impressed by the PS4 as we were with the PS3.

Of course the PS4 will blow its predecessor its releasing 7 years later, thats the least we would expect of it. However equally impressive not a chance.

Imo in comparison to the PS3, PS4 looks like a cost saving exercise. Whats left to be seen how much of these cost savings are going to be forwarded to the fans and how much is kept for corporate profits.

decrypt4055d ago

@Reynod

Good attempt but you are going to get disagreed to hell by the herd lol.

Not easy prying off Sony blinders.

DragonKnight4054d ago

The disagrees are because the two of you are incapable of doing anything but circle jerk over PCs as though anyone cares. You both do whatever you can to downplay the PS4 and laud the PC because you're trying to hide the fact that more and more developers are choosing consoles over PC. That doesn't take anything away from PC, that's just a sign of the times. Be happy with what the PC can do for you and stop being fanboy trolls. People like you give the PC gaming community a bad name and I know enough of the community simply have the same attitude that console gamers have and that's "we just want to play games." You're literally just arguing the difference between specs as those specs are the be all and end all of games.

punisher994054d ago (Edited 4054d ago )

He is getting disagreed with because he is just plain wrong. I mean there is really no other way to put it.

Jdub895O4054d ago (Edited 4054d ago )

okay this is the logic with n4g users. Say something bad about

Sony = disagrees

Talk too highly of Sony = disagrees.

Ask for disagrees = agrees!

khowat4054d ago

True, the ps4 will be better than the ps3 naturally but the innovation that the ps3 delved into with the CELL was truly amazing along with have the foresight to know that blu-ray would trump HDDVD, now all we have is more RAM, cool...

cayleee4054d ago

The Cell wasnt anything amazing, however yea like Reynod mentioned it sure was ahead of a Tablet CPU used in the PS4.

Its funny how so many people have disagreed with facts.

PS3 indeed was a better package for its time than the PS4.

smashcrashbash4054d ago (Edited 4054d ago )

Wow the endless anger and rage gamers have is amazing.What does BC and a new format have to do with the specs or power of the PS4? Sony's Bluray was ahead of it's time and they have to change it just so you can feel impressed. Yeah that makes a whole lot of sense. 'Hey guys lets change Bluray despite it being very functional because we have to impress the idiots who write nonsense on gaming sites.Lets not just advance and perfect it.Lets just toss it out so we can risk using something new'. I mean if you can't say something smart or constructive just be quiet

khowat4054d ago

Yep were an angry bunch, misread title, go off on a rampage

Silly gameAr4054d ago

It's always the same bunch saying the same crap in these PS4 articles too. It's to the point where I don't know if they're trying to convince everyone else that the PS4 well be underwhelming, or themselves.

kenshiro1004054d ago

Obvious trolls are obvious.

wishingW3L4054d ago (Edited 4054d ago )

Reynold, Cell was more powerful than the highest caliber core i7 of 2010 (i7 980x). When it came out in 2006 there was no intel CPU that could rival it and even today the Cell is still outperforming many high caliber CPU's on top of being more powerful than the PS4's CPU by quite a large margin. So do your research.

What hindered the PS3 was the crappy GPU and small memory.

zebramocha4054d ago

@wishing in terms of performance but not in overall efficiency,the same could be said about the ps4 in comparison to a similarly spec pc or slightly higher than that.

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Holeran4054d ago

The Cell processor in PS3 is more powerful than the cpu in the upcoming PS4? Where are the numbers to back this up? I am curious is all. It seems ridiculous that Sony would put a CPU in thier new product that is actually inferior to thier current console. What are the numbers in terms of calculations per second between the two processors?

ProjectVulcan4054d ago (Edited 4054d ago )

CELL is not really more powerful than an i7. It is actually a fraction the performance in the type of game code developers want to write.

What the CELL is actually very good at is virtually of little or no relevance or use to gaming code. It is inflexible very much the opposite of what x86 has been slowly developed into over the past 35 years. Think about why x86 has been around that long too, when CELL has born and died in less than a decade.

Which is probably why PS3 has been trounced performance wise by gaming computers with dual core x86 processors in PC since the day it arrived.

Put a core 2 duo and an 8800GTX in a PC (both of which were around by the time PS3 launched) and it will of course, beat up PS3 on anything you care to mention.

Sony have switched to x86 for that very reason....it is vastly superior in genera purpose code for games.

Secondly CELL is as dead as a dodo, and that wouldn't be the case if it were actually so superior to existing hardware.

Use some common sense! How can it be so brilliant and yet utterly dead as an architecture?

Fact is it isn't so brilliant in 2013. An x86 CPU is much better, and a modern GPGPU much better at everything else.

Which is precisely why Sony ditched CELL and included an x86 CPU and a modern GPGPU.....

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aceitman4054d ago

the ps4 has more than just ram , that was the most feature fans and devs wanted , to open up the system so devs can do what they wanted to on home consoles, and the have the new controller , the ram is the beginning of what devs can do with ps4. and being so easy to develop on . its a system for all the fans , devs and cororate. sony is making a comeback and I have a feeling it will be a strong one. cant wait for the 1st wave of games to come out and show everyone that is hating on sony to see , and its funny how the pc world is hating to.

kenshiro1004054d ago (Edited 4054d ago )

You're trying way too hard.

Tell me...why is there such a big deal about BC? It's not like your consoles ceased to exist after a new one comes out. I'm sorry but when a new console comes out, I'm moving on. If I want to play old games, I have my other consoles.

And can you please back up your statements with evidence?

Oh...wait, you can't.

Aghashie4054d ago

I own more than +100 games on the PS3 alone. Many of those games are just too good to be left behind.

Remember Okami on the PS2? Awesome game isn't it? Well, I already own a copy for my old PS2. If I want to play it again I have to pull my PS2 from the closet and rig it on my entertainment centre. Or can just re-purchase the game on the PSN Store and have it downloaded to my PS3. But why? Why should I spend more money on something that I already own? So, my only option is to clean the dust over my PS2. Fair enough... well, not so fair. What will happen to my PS2 games collection when there is no more support for that system? I can always buy a new one on Amazon or EBay but with time that system will become scarce, harder to find, and the harder to find the expensier it will be... just to think abaut it annoys me.

Listen, I own something like 200 Dreamcast games. Several accessories, memory cards, rumble packs, arcade sticks... you got the picture. Right now that collection is sitting on several boxes on my closet. My Dremcast does not work anymore. Amazon and EBay got replacements but they are mostly refurbished and won't last long. It is quite rare to find an original, still sealed one but the price is a little step for such an old system. The point is, that I don't want my vast PlayStation games to follow the Dreamcast example. I want to play my games as long as I want regardless of the system.

For me BC is a big deal. I want to upgrade to a PS4 as quick as the thing hits the market, but still... No BC means i will stick to my PS3 until there is nothing new to play.

Just my opinion. Happy gaming folks.

younghavok4054d ago

Very VERY well said, but of course saying that in here is asking for trouble. You are right on every point tho. PS3 was a way bigger leap over the PS2 than the PS4 is over the PS3. The PS4 seems like more of an expansion than anything. And like you said nobody is talking about the cpu and gpu of this thing, just the ram as if thats what makes games look as good as they do. It helps of course, but its not as important as the brains of the thing.

Mr_Writer854054d ago (Edited 4054d ago )

You want to know what does impress me? How developers are talking up and showing love to the PS4.

That excites me more then RAM, or CPU's and whats not.

The console makes developers happy, which makes me happy. I'm excited for what they will be able to do with it.

So yeah Equally impressed, then add the share button, the play as you download, Vita remote play and streaming your game things which I find cool and I'd say I am more impressed.

And BC is coming via the cloud.

DragonKnight4054d ago

@Reynod: That's funny, I don't see a PC tag for this story. Too bad I already de-bubbled you for trolling or else I could have de-bubbled you for off topic.

The PS4 may not have expensive "ahead of their time" tech inside it, but it improves in other ways over the PS3 and if you can't see that, you're more blind than normal.

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Muffins12234055d ago

Ill just be getting the camera for the streaming part where people can watch my sexy ass face playing a game :3

nevin14054d ago

You need the camera to stream?

Omni-Tool4053d ago

I think I'll play my games naked then. For now, I'll stick to wearing my hat.

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Gimmemorebubblez4054d ago

I think about it like this:
-The Ps3 to the Ps4 is like the psOne to the Ps2 which is a evolution but not the Ps2 to Ps3 which was a revolution. We are still in the HD era.

Jaqen_Hghar4054d ago

and Ps2 was awesome (possibly the most awesome system ever) so why worry? Bottom line is the first party studio of a company is unrivaled in a man's opinion so a man has no worries for his satisfaction.

Azurite4054d ago

PC gamers (I count myself as such) will benefit greatly from the "next generation" games on consoles.

N0S3LFESTEEM4054d ago

Ha... no more training wheels. Anyone rocking a higher model 500 series or a 660ti and up will really see the benefit towards the end of the year. I'm still curious as to how developers will make use of the ram in the ps4... as it stands right now I don't see the need for more than 2gbs for the GPU considering it's mainly used to hold textures. Good news is that AMD has their hand in all the new consoles... if things go well from here they might actually be relevant again in the CPU market. Those 8 core piledrivers might be showing their worth here soon.

Omni-Tool4053d ago

Halo 2 for PC had 2 to 3 times the system requirements as compared to the original Xbox specs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

http://support.microsoft.co...

As far as more ram goes, I played Skyrim on both PC and PS3. The biggest thing I noticed between the 2 was PS3 was on medium graphics and load times were horrible. Now imagine skyrim on max settings with no load times on the PS3. I know, I'm dreaming but it's only because there is not enough memory capacity to load all of the data to be processed at once. Add more memory, then more and larger files can be loaded thus improving texture quality and greatly reducing load times. This also helps with loading more of the game up at once to reduce potential areas for load screens. Like with skyrim, walking into a house. Wait for house to load and then go to a different section of the house just to wait for another loading screen. More ram, graphics ram specifically, helps with these issues greatly.

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How to recruit Lam in Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes

Lam is among the 120 characters available for recruitment in Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes. While she is one of the many straightforward recruits, a known bug may prevent players from recruiting her if certain conditions are met. Despite developers’ assurances of fixing the bug, some early access players still encounter issues with recruiting Lam despite attempting the standard method.

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Tomb Raider Remastered just quietly censored one in-game detail

Tomb Raider 1-3 Remastered players are ticked off by the game’s most recent patch, which censors in-game pin-up posters of Lara Croft.

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rlow111h ago

This is why gaming is screwed. When people change things to fit someone’s agenda, it’s a slippery slope downhill.

Christopher11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

Even if that agenda is of the developer? Way to remove developer rights.

***One player called it a “huge problem with modern games,” saying they can now be “ruined AFTER people buy them”.***

The level of drama. Yes, I recall sitting there for more hours than I did anything else in the game. These two pinups are the core of the game, after all!

coolbeans9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

rlow1's cringe catastrophizing aside, I do think developers *ought* to strive to maintain an original work to the best of their ability. The language of a "remaster" tacitly implies that - for good or ill - what's being resold is what fans remember but better.

Profchaos9h ago

Games can be ruined after purchasing them yeah we know this not from this but from GTA IV which had half it's radio content patched out due to licensing expirations and to me that was a huge deal.

This pin up poster is a bit of nonsense but the whole argument of modern games can be ruined post launch is Absol true.

DedicatedDark8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

It's not their work to censor. They are incharge of restoration & remastering the work, not overwriting it.

Barlos7h ago

It's not the agenda of the developer though, they're pandering and trying to increase their ESG score.

Way to support censorship...

victorMaje7h ago

It’s not the end of the world for sure, but I understand the hate towards this kind of change. I believe it’s also a matter of principle.

Imagine a Picasso painting being restored & the restorer deciding there aren’t enough strokes, or some lines aren’t straight enough or curved enough…not sure it would/should sit well with people.

Have all original devs signed off on this change? Even if it’s the case, are we saying older gamers are better mentally equipped to process what was there than current gamers, hence the change?

Enough time ago the case was made that games are an art form. We’re supposed to have won that case.
So which is it? Are games art or not?

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Eidolon7h ago

Hasn't this been happened for over a decade since remasters? I can't see that it's any worse now. Maybe if Sweet Baby starts getting their hands on remasters we will definitely have a problem.

Rebel_Scum10h ago

tbh I dont see something like this as censorship. Does anyone else not find it strange for someone to stick pin ups of themsleves in a locker room?

Now of it was a pin up of some half naked firefighters it might make sense as Lara might like that, and if they removed that I would cry censorship. But removing pin ups of the main character, yeah I get it.

Barlos7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

It's a game, and they were placed there for the audience. It's not real life. If it was, she wouldn't have fought a T-Rex now would she?

Yes, it's censorship but it's a bit less in your face. If they were in the original game, then they should have been in the remasters. It's bad enough that they have that ridiculous unnecessary warning at the start, but then they start removing things post launch. I don't care how small the change, they shouldn't be doing it. It's nothing but ESG pandering but in a subtle way.

Rebel_Scum6h ago

Look bro, if you have pictures of yourself naked on a bear skin rug up in your house let me tell you, its not normal.

jambola5h ago

I wasn't aware censorship was based on what made sense to you

Rebel_Scum4h ago

Likewise, what a stupid comment.

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SimpleDad7h ago

By the year 2030, this remaster collection will totally be changed and censored. Probably will remove Lara as a playable character. It's ridiculous. Glad that my family didn't buy this.
I still have Tomb Raider 2 PS1 as a memory.

jambola5h ago

Those shorts are a little revealing
Should probably make them snow pants

Barlos4h ago

They'll probably make her trans

CobraKai6h ago

It’s mentioned in the article, and it’s a point i 100% agree with, it’s the fact that they can censor a game after you buy it. That’s total bullshit.

Killer2020UK6h ago

Whilst it's an overreaction to say this has "ruined" the game, it's still problematic that this has happened post launch and for many, post-purchase.

I don't want someone to change a product for the worse after I've bought it. The same goes for implementing micro transactions after reviews.

I wonder why they did this? Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

maykhausonninh6h ago

Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

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Final Fantasy III Pixel Remaster Review – You Are Your Job, Apparently

Gary Green said: In a time where an enhanced, 3D remake of Final Fantasy III already exists, it’s hard to argue that Final Fantasy III Pixel Remaster is the definitive version we were expecting. With Final Fantasy III already being the last in the series to be translated and make its way west, this is something of a slap in the face for the fans. Still, let’s not be disheartened. There may be many shortfalls in this edition of Final Fantasy III, however there’s no denying that this classic JRPG still holds some nostalgic value, even if it struggles to break away from its original hardware limitations.

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FACTUAL evidence11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

It’s funny I’m seeing these articles about pixel remaster, and I just platinumed 1-4 within 8 days lol. I’ve been on FF5 for about a week now. Let’s just say 5 was the start of FF having content like crazy. I should have the plat within 2-3 days.

MrBaskerville2h ago

The game being an accurate represantation of the original was not a slap in the face to the fans. The 3D remasters looked like ass (visually) tbh.