My Reason: For Not Seeing Sony’s Next-Gen Dominance…in One Picture

VGR: A picture is worth a thousand words…a picture of numbers is worth how much?

[Muffins1223]

and the ps2 beat xbox and gamecube in sales

[Jadedz]

Those days are over with (unless you factor in handhelds). There will be a few 3rd party exclusives, but development cost has increase a lot more since that era.

[RTheRebel]

And they says MS started timed exclusives lol

[shoddy]

I though American already know that we are not the center of the universe.

[slayorofgods]

A monopoly is if / when Sony owns Nintendo and MS. The PS2 is called a a$$ kicker of its generation.

On topic

MS did capitalize on the one year head start and The U.S. bought into video games early this generation. However, Sony has really brought the competition to close out this generation. It'll be interesting to see who goes where once the PS4 is released. So far they have gained a lot of interest, MS is now the ones that need to keep up moving forward..

Let's hope we don't have a Windows 8 type of maneuver from MS. They have been on a hot streak of needing to fire Balmer, they could blow it again.

[RememberThe357]

A monopoly is when one company controls an entire industry. MS has one with Windows OS, Rockefeller had one with Standard Oil.

The game industry is actually more of a oligopoly where a few companies run the industry. Less so when you factor in the indies and the open PC market, but absolutely on the console side. There has always been competition in this industry, we've never had a monopoly.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Do you know what a monopoly is?

[b163o1]

If China lifts there console ban, then no one will be able to predict who'll win the NextGen battle…

[BiggCMan]

Let's not forget that this guy says MS and Nintendo have both doubled Sony's NA sales....Last time I checked, 26x2 is 52, and neither the Wii or 360 seems to have sold 52 million according to this chart. Plus there's the fact that..he completely ignored the global numbers where PS3 is on par with the 360.

[Skynetone]

ms put a half a billion dollars into the launch of kinect, and the ps3 still steamrolls the 360 with zero advertisement

yeah im really worried about the ps4 future

[a_squirrel]

Also the chart is a hardware to software ratio, so, this whole article is pointless

[jmac53]

@a_squirrel Software is where these companies make their money so yes it is important. Xbox has always had a higher software attach rate so Microsoft has made more money.

[a_squirrel]

It's pointless because what if I only sold 1 piece of hardware and yet less software than everyone else? I'd be at the top. It'd seem like I sell more software (compared with selling hardware) than everyone else.

The chart means nothing without solid numbers to base the ratios off of.

[rainslacker]

Sony and MS are actually about equal now. MS advantage on attach rate was true up until 2011, and some reports say Sony has overtaken MS in this regard, although nothing substantial.

Either way, the other people are right, attach rate is a useless way to measure a consoles success. Wii had a pretty low attach rate, yet was a very successful system.

[WildArmed]

Ps2 was actually sales were toe to toe in NA and Europe.

And by looking at total sales of gaming platforms by region over all generations, you get:
41% of all hardware sales are from North America.
30% from Europe
20% from Japan

Ofc these numbers don't take into account of changing times from back when the old consoles were released. But never the less, it's clear you can't predict anything by looking at such numbers.
http://www.vgchartz.com/ana...

[rainslacker]

You can't predict anything by looking at historical numbers anymore, particularly if you try to do so in a skewed manner like this article did. Let's face it, no one could look at the Xbox numbers and predict that 360 would become the powerhouse it did. Same with the Wii and GameCube.

There are just way too many variables involved in what makes a console successful to focus in on just one thing.

[morkendo23]

sold all my ps3 games and console today retiring from gaming. @ 54 church is the way now.

good bye gamers torch is passed on.........

[IRetrouk]

Really, is it against christianity to game now lol, seriously though, u serious? Why give up a hobby when it does no harm to you or anyone else? Not slagging ur choice just interested :-)

[Cueil]

@IRetrouk if he wants to rededicate his life that's his business

[RememberThe357]

Good luck. GO HAWKS! Percy Harvin!!!! lol I've been pumped all day!

[IRetrouk]

Obviously but if he didnt want to discuss it then why post it in the firstplace?, i wasnt being nasty or making fun, i was just interested in his point of view and wanted to discuss it with him, that is what you do on a forum isnt it? You know you can game without dedicating your life to it right? I know many christians who game :-) you dont always have to give up the things you enjoy to make a change in/to your life.

[Why o why]

we all reach a time to leave things and move on for varying reasons. He will always be welcome back...Gaming will be hard to dodge if youre around any tech head kids, friends or relatives. good luck

[brave27heart]

My reason why this article is pointless in two words.

Source Vgchartz

[showtimefolks]

This article is fill of Xbox fanboys trying their best to bring down the playstation brand

A year ahead start
High price point for ps3
Hard to develop for
Bad ports
Psn start up and hack

All of that yet ps3 has outsold the xbox360 since day one and now has passed it for #2 on the list. Ps3 is on pace to sell 129 million consoles this gen making it 3 straight gens of selling 100 million plus.(xbox360 is also on pace for 115 million plus)

All this hate yet playstation brand today is stronger than ever before, while ms has shifted it's focus to kinect and crappy kinect games Sony has done nothing but deliver top notch games. Halo,gears,fable and forza what else?

Have fun paying for xblive while psn will be free and will have a lot more features and cross game chat for free

Have fun playing same 2-3 recycled series

This time Xbox brand isn't getting a year ahead start so ps4 will outsell the next Xbox from day one and never letting up.

[Kurt Russell]

Ironic you go on about Xbox fanboys... then go on a mega defense rant smack talking the console you don't own and making excuses for the one you do, wouldn't you say?

*EDIT - also reading the comments above you, the majority seem to be in defense of the PS3, so what ever dream cakes you're eating share them around will ya?

[Condemnedman]

Yes loads of xbox fanboys making comments =-/ deluded child .

[showtimefolks]

Kurt Russell

scalyranger667 is my xblive

i see what both companies did right and wrong, early on this gen ms was all about core gamers but after they saw the success of wii they totally forgot about their core fans. Just watch the last 3 e3's and you can see for yourself.

also some of the comments on this article are all about hating the playstation 4 when we know so little, PS brand has delivered a lot more than any other brand

[colonel179]

While history is good to know trends, unexpected things can happen. Just look at the Wii and the 360. If someone based the success of the 360 on the Xbox, then it was meant to be doomed. It also happened with Sony: after 2 successful generations, everybody would have expected to be the same, but it wasn't.

In short, every generation is completely different from each other, and it's a new start for every company. No one knows which console will be the most successful this gen, until all the console launch and are at least 2 years out.

[Jadedz]

You people are gonna tell me that the PS2 didn't own the 3rd party market? The console had the top system selling 3rd party titles on lock, and publishers seemed to have favored Sony at the time.

The word ''monopoly'' might of been a little of a stretch, but Sony did lavishly well their PS1/2 consoles with an overwhelming amount of 3rd party supported titles.

[Aceman18]

Worthless article is worthless. i shake my head at these articles with their stupid claims. Im an American, and i can easily say the USA does not equal the world.

to me the sign of a good product is one that does well in all regions not just one hence the playstation brand will always do well because it sells to all regions unlike M$ who only sell here in the states, and England.

[otherZinc]

Not only that true assessment of the North American Market.

But, the North American Market is the only market is the only market that is accurately tracked.

This is why you dont hear the arrogant SONY proclaiming world sales leadership because they know it isn't close to true.

Again, when SONY announces they are the world sales leader in a letter to its shareholders of the PS3's market position; all other news is false, period!

[GribbleGrunger]

My reason you could be wrong in one picture:

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/m...

[Snookies12]

Lol! Yeah, as if North America and this generation of consoles are the only things that mattered when it comes to games... Sorry, but this article is grasping at straws. Why do you need a reason to see dominance of a console anyway? Why can't we just hope for success on all future consoles? Good god, it's like the majority of gamers are toddlers... -_-

[PopRocks359]

Part of it is North America is the largest market for games presently while the Japanese market weakened because of how the yen is weakening. Europe I'm not sure about presently, but the chart he brought up showed all three consoles generally selling best in America.

EDIT: Scratch that, the PS3 actually sold the most in the UK according to the chart.

I'm not sure how accurate it is (it's VgChartz, so...) and I'm not really agreeing with the guy, I'm just showing where he's getting his information from, for those who don't understand it.

[Good_Guy_Jamal]

Did you share this pearl of wisdom when the articles saying ps4 would dominate were flooding the front page?

[xxLuckyStrike]

Xbox will again take America hands down. Australia,UK and Europe could go either way. 720 and PS4 will most likely be close in sales within those regions. The rest of the world is starting to buy into Xbox brand. Sony will never dominate the market again

[SilentNegotiator]

@poprocks
"Part of it is North America is the largest market for games presently while the Japanese market weakened because of how the yen is weakening"

Ahh, that's right; the USD is in GREAT shape right now, though! /s

[JohnnyBadfinger]

Snookei is right. Whether PS Fans want to admit it or not. The Xbox has made a place for itself in the industry and they took a seat right up the front next to Nintendo and Sony and said "What up fuckers!" And just like that the new kid was hated for its arrogant confidence and its plain aggressiveness by PS fanboys.

Face it. As much as you want the Xbox to fail. Part of you admires it for making its rise during the play station era and coming out a winner. I don't mean winner as in it was the best console, but in the sense it has done everything it set out to do. And all in 2 generations. That's a win

[PopRocks359]

@SilentNegotiator

If consoles sold more in other regions consistently in recent times, I wouldn't take that as another one of your lame attempts to take my comments out of context.

I said nothing about the dollar and I also said nothing about the economy in general. The Japanese market is less profitable because the yen took a supposedly big hit, making the western market a more profitable avenue for Japanese products. Therefor it's not outside the realm of freaking reality to infer that the US market is presently the largest for video games.

[joab777]

My reason as to why one tiny tidbit of info can predict the future of an unreleased console...oh wait thats what it should have been called. How do you factor in the fact that both sony and microsoft have sold about 75 million console. Or that many xbox consoles replaced rrod, or that the ps3 has generally been more expensive. All this shows is that Microsoft does well in the US and Nintendo appeased the casual crowd. It may be a better predictor of the new xbox's trajectory, away from hardcore gaming and towards casual and entertainment.

[classic200]

Amazing how sony still manage to out sell microsoft in every other continent regardless of always being more expensive this gen, just imagine if the PS4 is more closer to xbox price at launch.

Also not having a year start might literally bite them big time.

[nukeitall]

Where I am right now, there is no 4GB standard Xbox 360. In fact, they only sell the Kinect bundle and 250GB hard drive version. The PS3 Slim is actually roughly $50 cheaper.

In some regions, the Xbox 360 is actually more expensive too.

That said, the PS3 is more popular here. If you ask most of them, it is because they have been gaming on the Playstation brand forever.

However, past history has also shown that a new generation can reset, just like the previous one where Sony pretty much rode on the Playstation brand, and not the system.

[Blank]

Excellent picture you put up im downvoting the site and article as well as giving you a bubble

[Kevin ButIer]

lol well played... srly how the hell did we approve this... it is a new low for me in terms of journalism. they are not even trying.

[DigitalSmoke]

excactly, watch the map honkeys.

[5eriously]

Most Americans do not even know there is another non American part of the world out there. Shame.

As for the article, The Americans were foolish enough to rather repeat purchase multiple xbox 360's due to RROD instead of opening a proper class action suite against Micro$oft. The next gen would not have the same additional "marketing" scam for Micro$oft to rely on.

[lociefer]

This is dumb on so many levels that even the jesus facepalm picture cannot do it justice

[gman_moose]

Yup, so many things wrong with this submission...

1) Source is VG Chartz
2) Using NA sales data to predict what will happen globally
3) Failing to recognize the 1 year head start by Microsoft
4) Saying that Xbox/Wii sales were "at least double" PS3 in NA. Math lesson much?

I don't understand why this site is even called News for Gamers. 99% of the submissions are pure garbage like this one.

[Godmars290]

Right now as I see things MS only "won" this gen with the 360 because 1) they launched the console a year ahead of the competition and 2) multiple purchases from the same owners because of RRoD and various system/account bans. Even then they lost ground to Nintendo and then Sony, whereas when either of those companies possessed a lead - I mean, though its stalled the Wii is still leading - they only increased it.

Sure they're likely to retain a majority share in the US on brand name a lone - unless they do something dumb - but likely not the rest of the world.

[DiRtY]

This is another urban myth story. Replaced RRoD units are not counted as a sale as long as they are under warranty. And the warranty was extended to 3 years, so a VERY tiny fraction bought a Xbox 360 twice and even less because of RRoD.

I bought two Xbox 360s. One for the living and one for the bedroom.

Anyway, Microsoft and the next Xbox is in a MUCH better position than they were last gen after the original Xbox. Sony on the other hand is in a much worse position than last gen after the PS2.

[nukeitall]

It's amazing that the Xbox 360 did as well as it did considering it was the laughing stock last generation and has paid premium online game play.

Heck, the momentum it is still getting is astonishing and the retraction of the Wii is equally surprising.

I think the most telling thing here is the release of the PS Vita. It was praised to high heavens and loved due to it's price tag at announcement. Fast forward, and PS Vita's sale is very poor performer.

I don't even know if PS Vita can recover?

Point being, reality deviates from fanboy love quite frequently. This will all play out in the next 1-2 years and has more to do with a company's management and ability to be flexible.

[arbitor365]

i think you are in for an unpleasant surprise

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[smashcrashbash]

Yes because as we all know the gaming industry isn't dynamic at all.Everything just remains the same constantly.That is why Nintendo has been dominating the gaming world every gen and Sony was always behind from the start.Oh wait.No they haven't.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

lol f'n exactly. PS2 sold over 150 million units. If things were always a constant, PS3 would have no competition, but clearly enough to anyone with better sight than a bat, that isn't the case. Despite all the fanboy wars and penis envy we're all used to on the net, the majority of these owners don't play the brand loyalty game. They just buy a product for whatever their reasoning may be, and they are happy with it. Its obvious the 360 is a far cry from the first box, and it has done well for itself in the industry. It even became a household name. Is a large reason for this the year head start and multi million dollar marketing campaign? Sure. Has the PS3 likely pulled off one of the best 4th quarter comebacks we've seen? Sure. But this could all flip flop next generation just as easily.

If Microsoft does go full on media mode, I could see them selling a lot to the TV crowd, but with PS4 being a powerhouse while shedding the stigma of having bad ports or an inferior online experience, the gaming crowd could just as quickly go all in with PlayStation again. The general public simply does not care about these stupid cheerleader arguments on the web.

[Max-Zorin]

can't we all just get along?

[bessy67]

I don't get why the PS fanboys try so hard to deny facts. Japanese market is shrinking, NA market is growing, MS dominates Sony in the NA market. Simple. But what does it matter? If you like Sony and buy their new console, why would you care if the new Xbox outsells it?

[Godmars290]

1 - I don't get why you have to even use "PS fanboys".

2 - In regards to worldwide sales, the 360's lack of sales in Japan is why its fallen behind towards the end of this cycle.

3- Why when the 360 had a worldwide lead did everyone have to put up with 360 camp crowing about? Just like they crowed about it was selling in Japan. Then as the numbers began to shrink, Japan was suddenly unimportant.

[bessy67]

Fallen behind? But 360 still leads PS3 in worldwide sales...

And again, why do you care? Why are people so bent out of shape by the notion of MS outselling Sony? If you prefer Sony, buy PS and don't worry about xbox sales.

[Tito08]

@Bessy-Actually, if you look at how each console sold in their respective time frame on the market, PS3 achieved the same amount of consoles sold a year less than 360, so pretty much 360 has being outsold by the PS3 by 8 million if you discount the 360`s too-soon-to-market launch... BTW, PS3 already passed 360 a long time ago, only in the US is where 360 really did great, but rest of the world, not really!

[jmac53]

Japan is done. All they care about now are mobile games. The developers besides some are stuck in the past.

[MysticStrummer]

No facts to deny. Each gen starts at 0. Imagine people making predictions for this gen from the previous gen's sales chart. Feel stupid yet? You should. Going by last gen charts, both MS and Nintendo were guaranteed to fail. In the upcoming gen MS won't have that year head start, and I'm sure they won't want another RRoD style fiasco, though the one this gen certainly boosted their sales for them. Besides that, I wouldn't just assume NA will go with MS next gen. I know a bunch of people who swore never to buy a MS console again.

[Godmars290]

More to the point why do you? Why is that Japan, where the 360 doesn't sell, doesn't Japan matter while you don't mention the Wii, which is still the leading system.

And it doesn't matter to me which system outsells the other, but how the industry reacts. This gen NA media have been screaming at every opportunity that the 360 leads, and there's been Jack-all but FPS and PC clones. PC devs who have only b*tched and moaned about graphics and textures while gameplay and genre diversity narrowed.

From Atari to PS2 it was about getting the most out of those systems. No matter how limited they were. I like to see a return to that.

[KrisButtar]

"From Atari to PS2 it was about getting the most out of those systems. No matter how limited they were. I like to see a return to that"

me 2, well said, this gen seems to nickel and dime ya every chance they get.

[Hicken]

It's not about denying facts. Well, not on the Sony side.

Where are all the facts that contradict this little tidbit? The faster sales rate of consoles despite being higher priced? The lack of digital sales, arguably higher on PS3 than the other two consoles? The stronger first party and exclusive support moving into the twilight of this generation?

The fact that NONE of this automatically carries over next generation?

No. Let's toss ALL the other, less flimsy facts out the window and only focus on this one, full of holes because it's based on partial information and estimates.

... that doesn't sound like a fact at all...

[Typical-Guy]

So NA = the entire GLOBE.... Hmmmmmm!

There's no winning or losing, it's better for us consumers unless you have stock in those companies.

[bessy67]

No, but NA = 45% of console sales and 360 outsold ps3 by over a 2:1 ratio. Again though, who cares? Get and play on whatever console you like.

[Typical-Guy]

I'll definitely get both consoles.... So people, keep on playing domination!

[MysticStrummer]

Over a 2:1 ratio? lol No. Going by the numbers in that chart, 360 would have to sell 10 million more while PS3 sold none for 2:1 to be correct.

[bessy67]

Oops, slightly under 2:1.

[Clarence]

Thats due to a year head start. Next gen the PS4 will go Toe to Toe with the next xbox in NA. You also have to take in account how much more expensive the PS3 was when it came out.

The PS4 will outsell the next xbox.

[chrisarsenalsavart]

44 millions 360
26 millions ps3
learn your maths cause this clearly doesn,t make a 2:1 ratio
xxlol

[gman_moose]

Could this mean NA consumers are impatient, and didn't want to wait for Sony's next console, where other parts of the world wanted to wait to make an informed decision? I live in NA, but even I can admit, consumers here are mostly sheep.

Also do some effing math. 26 mil x2 = 52 mil. Grade 3 level.

[BitbyDeath]

Anything could happen with new consoles.
We know nothing about the new Xbox (aside from rumours) so for all we know it could outshine the PS4 or it may go in the other direction and make the WiiU look nextgen.

If the PS4 gets a years headstart though then i'd say Xbox will have quite the uphill battle on its hands.

[WiiUsauce]

no, because 360 fans will just wait for the next XBOX. The casuals won't buy a PS4 just because it has better graphics, because they don't care about graphics. The only people who will buy a PS4 are hardcore gamers (people who buy ALL consoles, not hardcore like people who play only FPS and M rated games and think that's being hardcore) and the Sony fanboys.

I don't see anyone outside that demographic being early adopters, because there's NOTHING on PS4 that can appeal to the masses. No, another first person shooter with prettier graphics is not gonna cut it. Especially when it isn't Call of Duty.

[BitbyDeath]

'360 fans will just wait for the next XBOX'

Like the 100 million Wii owners that waited for the Wii U?

Or the 150 million PS2 owners that waited for the PS3?

Everyone starts at 0 when a new gen arrives, it is anyones game.

[Jazz4108]

Im so tired of these articles. Both consoles have not even been announced and I have seen countless why said console will dominate. If this coming gen will be like this I will stay out of the media and enjoy my hobbie however I so want to as it should be.

[r21]

Fantastic, let the fanboys argue :L

[clintagious650]

Theres a reason for that. That one magic word is, "PRICE". Thats the reason because if sony launched the ps3 at $299 it wouldve been a ps2 replay all over again.

[Inception]

I see...so right now gaming journalist also took paranormal lesson huh? Cause they can predict the future with only one picture. Cool /s

[isarai]

singling out a single country proves absolutely nothing but your ignorance. Total sales Ps3 has already surpassed 360 even with the shitty launch and one less year under it's total lifetime. i'm not saying it's definitely going to dominate, but already things are looking FAR better in favor of the PS4 next gen what with nintendo just now getting to the modern gen, and MS stating they are going to focus more on kinect next gen and making the 720 a media hub than a dedicated gaming console. Also with about 5 launch titles already announced for the PS4 even before E3, and the statement that every Sony first party studio is already working on a PS4 title, and MS offering very little in terms of big exclusives for the past few years i can very easily see PS4 dominating at this point.

I'm not saying it's definite, hell MS could blow the lid off next gen at E3, but as of right now? you'd have to be behind a veil of fanboy ignorance to not see that so far PS4 is in the lead as far as buzz from both gamers and developers

[WildArmed]

Continent, North America is a continent.

And yes I agree, NA market isn't the deciding factor of anything.

You can clearly see that from how this gen turned out.
Japan and EU made up for the lack of penetration of PS3 in the NA markets.

[isarai]

lol i didn't care enough to be specific

[nerdkiller]

who ever is the best will be the winner

[WeAreLegion]

This guy doesn't understand basic math.

[PS4isKing_82]

Sony and Microsoft will both be perfectly fine this gen. The only one to worry about is Nintendo and their wiiU. They've lost both the hardcore and casual to the competition. Plus with no big games out till fall, the hype for ps4 and 720 is only gunna get bigger and harder to ignore, making a tough job for Nintendo this gen. Yes they'll get by just like always, but it won't be a repeat of the wii.

[ninjahunter]

Lol, I would say money is the biggest problem, Your mom and dad arent gonna buy you a Console worth $500+ Unless your completely spoiled and if your like most people your job either doesnt pay you enough or you dont have enough free time to drop That kinda money on a console.

Although, I do have to say that Not a single one of my friends really cares about the PS4. Its a case of 'Why bother, My xbox can already do that".

[WildArmed]

The tone should change once this gen life cycle comes to a close.
Once current gen consoles stop being supported, you'll see more current gen gamers interested in the upcoming consoles.

[nerdkiller]

hey wait a minute where you get all those bubbs

[SDF Repellent]

Competition = lower prices for customers, we all win. Getting both for Uncharted 4 and Halo 5, you guys can go ahead and be armchair Sunday morning QB.

signed SDF

[MartinB105]

Here's me thinking that next generation could go either way...

But woah... hold on there... check out that red rectangle! I can't believe the error of my ways. What a fool I was! You took a simple geometric shape and cleverly placed it to show us the sole deciding factor of next generation, whilst simultaneously clearing us of the confusion caused by all those pesky irrelevant details that people in suits just put there to confuse us (like 55% of the global market - I mean, why should that matter!?).

Forget that the next Xbox hasn't even been officially announced yet; you've shown us the pure truth that can only be shown in specifically selected numbers!

This morning, my mind was dark and clouded, but now I am enlightened. I can finally truly comprehend what pure genius is, thanks to you and your red rectangle. For that, I will be forever in your debt.

[MartinB105]

I shall assume the unexplained disagrees mean that sarcasm on the Internet will remain undetected by some regardless of how obvious it is. :)

[unicron7]

Looks like some MS fangirls are a little scared that their brand may not be #1 next gen like it was this gen. Times change and superior products come along. It's just the way of things. The PS3 was great in my eyes..honestly don't know how it did so bad in the states. The exclusives were there, the hardware was there. Everything you needed was right there when you bought it. You didn't have to spend an additional 100-200 bucks on accessories. lol

[fsfsxii]

Was it the leading console this gen??! lol, i don't think so

[PumPum]

'Murica F*** yeah!

[Bowzabub]

It will dominate my household. Thanks.

[kingslayer1000]

Ps3>dvdbox 360

[RockmanII7]

What I'm more curious about is

1) From 6th gen to 7th gen the US market rose from 81.97 million to 112.79 million (38% increase)

2) From 6th gen to 7th gen the PAL market rose from 64.89 million to 84.66 million (30% increase)

3) From 6th gen to 7th gen the JP market FELL from 27.75 million to 23.45 million (15.5% decrease)

Winning Japan is increasingly becoming less and less important from a business aspect, Sony is going to have to be a bigger US player with the PS4 if it wants to 'win' the console war.

[theWB27]

I still for the life of me dont undertand why gamers care who wins when we should cheering that its close. Healthy competition drives innovation. It's the same scenario with Madden...so why do certain gamers care so much about.

[brave27heart]

@Rockman
If Sony can remove the barriers they had this gen such as high price point, lack of adverising and a less robust online system than live at launch, then Im certain they can gain a bigger share of NA. How many 360 owners are disillusioned with Microsofts direction the last few years?

This gen means nothing in terms of install base. Once the new consoles are launched everything resets. Gamers in the most part are a fickle bunch.

[Kaiou]

To be honest that's an amazing achievement for microsoft , they moved %300 more than the first Xbox in the US while sony dropped by %50 , after seeing this now i understand why M.patcher is predicting that microsoft will win the next gen.look at the amount of improvement, but kinect is crap though.

[NateCole]

Past performance matters little at the beginning of every new generation.

Everyone starts from zero. Whoever gets the Games/price/performance/functi onality right normally gets to win.

It does help a lot who gets to launch first as well.

[grassyknoll]

Couldn't have put it better myself, the past performance can be a help or hindrance, but it's what the companies do now that really matters. With the logic the writer is using, Sega never would have been success with the Megadrive or Sony with the first Playstation.

[ZBlacktt]

MS had a worldwide launch with the XBox. Sony did not as North America and Japan got the console in 2006. While all of Europe didn't get it until 2007. Yet Sony has more shipped consoles to date by reports.

Given the amount of users that had RROD and just bought the console over. Then MS banning 1 million consoles for pirated games. So those users had to buy the console over. The total sales for the XBox are not accurate at all.

MS played it safe and went with the DVD player. Sony introduced the world to Blu-ray. Built in Wi-fi and Game of the Year exclusives. Where MS has never had a Game of the Year exclusive ( 2006 was Zelda TP ).

This story is really meaningless and shows the writer has no idea. It's what the consoles do throughout their lifecycles that makes the difference. Only this time around the PS4 was built by the developing companies. So it's impact will be felt from the start.

With Sony already owning Sony pictures, Sony Record label, Gaikai and Netflix number one source from viewers being the PS3. The most internal gaming companies in house. They are not going to have a hard time at all this time around.

MS lost Bungie who said they will have exclusive material for the PS4 already with their new game Destiny.

So we wait to see what MS does as Sony is looking to own ( literally ) the market.

[lovegames718]

Res. Dirty.....

Ignorant and delusional fanboys such as yourself is why I hate this site sometimes. It's sad dumb consumers make excuses for crooked and avarice corporations. It is a fact tht micro. Shafted hundreds of thousands of consumers with the Rrods fiasco. When the systems started failing in large numbers micro. Was only giving a one year warranty and ppls who's system Rrods after tht one year period all either had to buy a new system or pay to get it VCRs, so what myth are you referring to? Moron the only reason micro. Extended the warranty because of lawsuits and the courts forced them to but by that time they had already swindled thousands of ppl. Two years of systems going through rrod after one year warranty and ppl buying new systems and my favorite part if all for the stupid consumers tht back Microsoft.....

From court proceedings we know Microsoft purposely sold faulty hardware to rush out the xbox basically saying #UCK you xbox fans well take your money give you a one year warranty let your system die and watch you still buy a new one and support us because your dumb!!!!!

For trolls such as pedrmiyamoto stfu lol your just mad Ps4 is looking awesome and your stuck with kinect trash. Ps3 has sold more systems every year thn xbox except for 2011 and it costs more. United States constituting 45% of the market would mean something if they controlled all 45% but they don't They share tht with Nintendo and Sony. Sony sells well all over we can't say the same for Micro. And tht is why ps3 once again is leading them in sales by several hundred thousands. But but but but but in Christmas they'll pull ahead lol Yeah my #as they will lol

Once again for you smart diehard xbox fans "Micro. Knowinglyyyyyy sold you guys faulty hardware and then charged ppl for a new system" Smart consumers indeed smh

[babis1974]

i don't care who will dominate...PS4 is coming...

[black911]

Microsoft will banking on Innovation next-gen. Kinect 2.0 and other features.

[talisker]

Tie ratios used as sales figures. How desperate. Or stupid. Or both.

[mayberry]

I don't care about sales when I play my, still going strong, 60G PS3 everyday for years, playing great exclusive games, and I wont care about sales when I finally boot up my PS4 and play some more awesome exclusive games. I dont care if sony sells one PS4, as long as the games keep coming. The fact that I know they will is a reason I will feel confident in my purchase.
I guess if I had 30k or more shares in Sony, I would care more, but I don't have any, so I don't care.
I also love my 360, but MS has a little more to prove to me to get excited about the 720 for obvious reasons.

[supergravity]

It's astonishing how detached you'd have to be to see the logic in what he had to say.

Can't wait to see what happens this time around in ALL the territories, there's obviously no guarantee that NA will vote for the best all-round console, but in the big picture i.e. the World the math will be just as simple, for most of us...

[RAVEN81]

the wii is NOT this gen , it was a baby step to make money , and ms pay for the baby step with buying rare from nintendo .

[stragomccloud]

Sorry, but gens have nothing to do with hardware leaps. They are just orders in which consoles are released. If we went by hardware, the Wii is 2.5 generations old, and xbox/PS3 are both 2 generations old since they are only directx 9.0c compatible and all PCs and Wii U and PS4 are directx 11 compatible.

So no. Sorry to burst your bubble.

And baby step or not, Wii had some of the coolest games this gen. Not saying other systems weren't they were all really awesome, I own all 3 plus a gaming PC. I am only saying that everything had some really cool games. So sadly because of the graphics, a lot of "gamers" scoffed at the system and a lot of great exclusive non-Nintendo games were lost under the radar. It's sad though, because there are millions of gamers out there that didn't play some cool games just because the graphics weren't as great as the HD twins.

[RAVEN81]

i dont care whats in the system the wii is a gamecube with motion controls thats it , ms and sony made the leap to the next gen .

[stragomccloud]

I'm sorry you missed some of the best games of the last generation because you forgot what it meant to be a gamer.

You know... that bit about playing games.
Gaming isn't about hating on other consoles/gamers, it's about the experience, and certainly not about being utterly dismissive with comments such as "a gamecube with motion controls."

Last gen showed us how shallow "gamers" are. Real gamers on the other hand had many ports of call for playing amazing software.

I hope one day you can get over yourself and enjoy cool games. After all, not all Wii games use motion, a lot only used IR, or none at all, or used it very sparingly. Not that there is anything wrong with motion to begin with. If there is, sounds like a personal problem.

And one more thing, Nintendo making a weaker console saved a lot of developers that could not afford the development costs of HD consoles from going bankrupt.

So now we still have Platinum games, Suda 51 and Grasshopper Manufacture, as well as Monolith the makers of the Xeno franchise, as well as the Fatal Frame developers.

[RAVEN81]

i dont hate the wii i own two lol

[leemo19]

So because ps3 didn't have a big impact NA like it did with ps2, Sony already lose next gen OK why not...
Didn't realize NA is what only matters in gaming now.

[VR-4nic]

Last time I check those number for MicroSoft and Nintendo's are not double to Sony's number and isn't 55% > 45% so whats this tool taking about? Did someone fail simple math in school? LOL!

[cheameup]

Lol. So there is a console that doesn't exist yet , is numbers on a bit of paper and another one that hasn't even been announced yet and your arguing which one is better. Keep it up.

[Jaqen_Hghar]

A man puts little weight on this. A man could list the advantages a console had to gain that lead, advantages that will not be there this time. A man will predict MS winning the US, but not by nearly as wide of a margin, and Japan and Europe being Sony land.

[all_clear]

numbers mean nothing even that sony has a good number in global sellings

[murkster-dubez]

Here we go the standard US centric notion that America is the center of the world and is all that matters.

[Jamaicangmr]

Good luck to them all, i want them all to be successful i just dont want the Wii U to be as successful as the Wii because if that happens that will be the death of gaming as we know it.

My beloved hobby will be reduced to nothing but casual shovel ware crap and become indistinguishable from the tablet market.

No thank you.

[MoveTheGlow]

I love how they're like "Because North America makes up almost half of the market, and Xbox and Nintendo did well in North America, they win!" Um, there are global numbers out there, buddy, and North America's trend in being a percentage of market share will decline in light of developments in China and Brazil. So... Predict away, but at least do it well next time...

[zbg31610]

So things cannot change? Playstation is on the heels of xbox and who knows, with a successful playstation 4 sony could retake the U.S. That's like saying the 360 wouldn't do well because of how dominant the ps2 was. And that just wasn't true.

All of these articles where people act like some sort of authority on business is getting annoying.

and

"Nintendo and Microsoft have both at least doubled Sony’s sales in North America"? 26x2<42????????

[Quagland]

Because of North America, the least brand loyal of all regions? The same place that swung from Sony to Nintendo to Microsoft in just 8 years.

[Rebo00]

"Nintendo and Microsoft have both at least doubled Sony’s sales in North America"
Does he know 26.01 doubled is 52.02 of which Nintendo and Microsoft haven't managed in North America, just saying...

[Phoenix76]

I always thought that N4g stood for ''news 4 gamers". Seems I was wrong. It's actually called "twwucmwoboff" or "the website where u can make wild opinions based on frivolous facts"!!!! This site is becoming a joke. Give us real news story's! Not some nobody's personal fanboy view

[Wizziokid]

Wait why did this get approved? look at the totals in that table, PS3 is right behind 360 but because america counts as the games industry sony don't have dominance?

My mind has just been raped with this terrible logic.

[devilhunterx]

Desperation setting in..

[SlavisH2]

i dont want one company dominating. Close competition is good for us!!!!!!!!!!

[stragomccloud]

Who cares???
As long as I get good games, I can care less who sells more.

[SpinalRemains138]

Anyone who believes this is a flaming asshole.

[1upgamer99]

I think that Sony will come out better than Microsoft this time around. I know that I am more than likely not picking up 720. I refuse to pay for Live Sony and even Nintendo have just as good online play now, as 4 years ago that was not so much the case. PS3 sales have really picked up in the past year and a half, and I think people are going to pick up PS4 before the Nextbox. Of coarse the Fanboys are going to pick one up day one, but I think overall Microsoft will not outsell PS4 for years like 360 did. I also think that sales of the new systems are not going to be as fast as this past Gen....There is just too much going on in electronics anymore, like IPADS, Steam, and so on and so on. I know I will get PS4 and I have Wii U, but most of my friends are happy with their PS3's they are not as into games as most of us on here are.....and a couple of my friends did pick a Wii U up at Costco when they were selling the Deluxe for $299, but that's cause I pushed them a little so we could play BOPS2, because the Wii U version IMO was better than my PS3 version so I traded it for the Wii U version and wanted my friends to play with me.

[lex-1020]

So.....Because during this generation Sony didn't dominate means that in the Next generation Sony won't dominate???? I'm sorry, can someone please explain to me how this picture can predict the future? And if you're really feeling up to a challenge can you explain how this trash got approved and made it to the top 5?