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The PlayStation 4 Looks Great… But Don’t Expect it to Sell as Well as the PlayStation 3

The PlayStation 4 — and any console, for that matter — is unlikely to sell as well as consoles did in previous generations due to the current state of the industry.

Here’s my predictions for the PS4 and why the state of the industry will mean consoles will struggle this generation.

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Shadow Flare4061d ago (Edited 4061d ago )

"I predict that the PlayStation 4 will only manage to sell a maximum of 60 million units"

Already bollocks but I'm gonna continue reading....

Ok finished reading it.

Bollocks.

We've just come off the back of the most successful console generation ever. All 3 consoles could hit 100 million units sold which is absolutely unprecedented and a remarkable achievement.

How many more articles do we need about how smartphones are stealing userbase and how the console industry is in decline, IT'S NOT

PS4 has done everything right so far and looks to be an incredible machine, incredibly supported. Claiming it will sell 60 million in its life time is laughable

PSVita4061d ago

Both console will well a lot more than current ones without a doubt.

Feline_Pornographer4061d ago (Edited 4061d ago )

"Both console will well a lot more than current ones without a doubt."

Not a chance. The PS3 will obviously sell well and dominate next gen. The next Xbox won't come close to the Xbox 360's installed base.

The PS3 still hasn't had the all important price drop to $199 worldwide. That is the price the PS2 went on to sell some 90 million more consoles when it was already at 70 million worldwide.

There are still 5-7 years of sales left for the PS3 and it is selling at the same yearly rate as the 160 million selling PS2 - about 11 million consoles a year.

PS2 14 years * 11 mil/yr ~160 million
PS3 7 years * 11 mil/yr ~78 million

The next Xbox has virtually no chance of selling the same number of units as the Xbox 360. The next Xbox won't have the luxury of the RRoD fiasco inflating Microsoft's worldwide installed base numbers by millions and millions of console like this gen.

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PSVita4061d ago (Edited 4061d ago )

@above- I agree with your points but consider Xbox was rushed and had a lot overheating issues and the ps3 was "high priced" and on top of everything the WIi was dominating. There's no way they can be worse off than that. Each company has grown in their own respects and I see a big future for both.

Keep in mind we know nothing about the next Xbox and little about the ps4. There's no way we can say the next Xbox will have weaker graphics or either will "win".

da_2pacalypse4061d ago

If the rumors of the next xbox are true, I see a lot of gamers switching over to the PS4. I'm a primary xbox player, and I'll be making the switch. M$ just doesn't care about gamers anymore.

dedicatedtogamers4060d ago

The funny thing about the article: apparently NOW the PS3 sold great this gen but the PS4 won't sell as well. Oh well shoot darn! And here I thought the PS3 was selling so poorly. At least, that's what gaming journalism wanted me to believe. I guess now that we hav a new Sony console coming out, it's easier to make baseless accusations against it instead of mocking a console that - against all the naysayers - managed to sell quite well this past gen.

knowyourstuff4060d ago

The market hasn't really grown much since the PS2 days. PS2 still has sold more than PS3 and 360 combined, it will take a while before the current gen consoles outsell the total combined PS2/Xbox1 sales.

Currently there's no data or evidence that would support the idea that next gen consoles won't sell as well as current gen consoles. It's just based on nonsense and some internet troll's desire for hits on his website.

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TheRandomDrifter4061d ago

When I saw him talking about the Apple/Smartphone market, I started to laugh. This guy really has no idea what he is talking about.

classic2004061d ago (Edited 4061d ago )

If a $600 console can manage to hit 77 million unit in a few years then the only way the PS4 will sell less is if its $800 at launch lol.

Also only non gamers play casual games and that group of people is actually not being developed anymore because the young generations rather core games.

WrAiTh Sp3cTr34061d ago

How long was it $600? The whole gen? No...now have a seat.

BitbyDeath4061d ago

@WrAiTh Sp3cTr3,

Started at $1000 for me, was even more expensive in NZ.

perdie4061d ago

@WrAiTh Sp3cTr3 no it was not $600 the whole generation.. but the fact it was, and still is, the most expensive console and still managed to sell 77 million is quite impressive.

Obviously is wasn't $600 the whole gen, but I think you are missing the whole point of that post.

You should probably sit down and read the post a couple more times to fully comprehend.

Have a good day!

mistertwoturbo4061d ago

^Wraith

The point he is trying to make is that most consoles that launched above the $600 ended up cancelled. But the PS3 is the first console in history to launch at that price and still survived until now and manage to sell 77m world wide.

aLucidMind4061d ago (Edited 4061d ago )

It isn't quite as impressive as you might think; didn't it sell relatively poorly until it was dropped to $400 and then sold even better than that when it was dropped down to it's current price? While it may still be the more expensive of the bunch, it offers more for the current price point than the alternatives do at more expensive costs.

The PS3 grants a hard drive 250GB, and a few even 500GB, for $250-$300 while you have to pay $300 to get the 360 with the 250GB HDD. So while it is more expensive, it isn't by much considering how much bang for your buck you get. When it was $600, it sold horribly because that bang was considerably less than what XBox was offering at release despite the hardware issues.

perdie4061d ago

@aLucidMind

http://n4g.com/news/86009/v...

I know its VG charts but considering the xbox had no competition its first year, (next-gen competition)while the ps3 was competing against a console that was $200 cheaper, I would say that it's pretty impressive what the ps3 accomplished in its first year pre-price cut.

Also the ps3 was the cheapest way to get a blu ray player at the time, so you good say that this console had the most "bang for your buck" when it launched even at its price.

Dj7FairyTail4061d ago

Not it will not reach 77m in a few years.
Because it took PS3 6 years to reach 70m.

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Derekvinyard134061d ago

I do disagree with this article only because Sony has the jump on Microsoft

gamernova4061d ago

What predictors do not understand is that babies are getting older and in the new generations coming all the kids want consoles and they usually get em. I would not be surprised if records are broken honestly and this goes for all new consoles...except the wii U lol

kreate4061d ago

Console industry is on the decline in america. Other regions are on the rise.

cryymoar4061d ago

I logged in for the first time in years just to say this:

These fucking neckbeards couldn't even imagine running a company that sells 100 million of anything, yet have the audacity to pretend like they know a thing or two about business and the video game industry.

showtimefolks4061d ago

seriously do we need these every day to kill the hype for ps4 or any next gen system? we get it smart phones and tablets are gaining ground but core fan base who wants the core gaming experience will stick with ps and consoles.

gaming business has been going on for a long time and has only grown bigger and bigger. with 10 year life cycle again for ps4 it will sell more than 100 million systems. why i am so sure well ps1-ps2 did it and now ps3 is on pace to sell 120 million plus.

just stop this nonsense let me know when i can get my core gaming experiences like tomb raider,uncharted,halo etc on iphone

boldstarr4061d ago

PS4 will sell like hotcakes, sony knows that, because no competition this time, M$ change its direction and Ninty stays irrelevant again in this coming next gen of consoles.

TheRandomDrifter4061d ago (Edited 4061d ago )

Okay I agreed with you when it came to the money pit that is Microsoft but Nintendo is making an effort to come back. If anything I see Sony ruling this next generation with Nintendo being in second place and why? Because Mario sells, Zelda sells, Metroid sells, and it is getting core multiplatform games on it. Sony however will have stronger exclusives more to my liking and it will also have core multiplatformers as well. Whether anyone wants to agree with this statement as we or not, Nintendo has been around since Generation 3 of gaming and has is not going away anytime soon. I am just worried Sony will make the same mistake with the PS3, which I doubt because they removed the backwards compatibility which is a plus. Anything to make the console cheaper is better for me. Also if Nintendo is so irrelevant then why is the 3DS selling so well? There is just more than the console market. Sony really needs to pick up with the Vita. More exclusives and more content for the Vita that actually matters. Yeah it is getting the price cut soon but that isn't going to be enough.

morkendo234061d ago (Edited 4061d ago )

" I PREDICT becuz ps4 will be microtransition,no ps3,ps2 BC. almost every game is some-how some-way connected to cloud most gamers will feel short-changed Hesitate to invest in ps4. including myself,so far ps4 is not appealing and has no warrant games to play as once SNES,PS1,PS2 did. any good game end up on psn instead as a physical disc. and that is the MAIN reason im not buying a ps4 (lack there-of) fun exciting games. "outside" of action rpg,multi-player,first person shooter games. gaming industry has changed for the worst.

solar4060d ago

price it right Sony, and it should kill. plan on buying one after the first price drop. unless The Last Guardian is a launch title then Day 1 for me.

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TheRandomDrifter4061d ago

What is this guy talking about? Not going to sell well as the PS3? Does this guy even remember the PS3 launch or am I just living in fantasy land here?

The PS4 from what I understand is going to have Knack, Infamous 3, an unnamed Final Fantasy title which will be revealed at E3, Witch Hunter 3, and Watch Dogs. From what I understand these games are going to be at launch or near the launch window. What did we have at the PS3's launch? Resistance Fall of Man, Ninja Gaiden Sigma (a Port of Black), Heavenly Sword, and Sonic 06. Yeah the PS2 backwards compatibility kept that thing running because if it wasn't there the PS3 would of died the year it was released. Yeah the PS3 got a lot better and in fact I am in love with the system, but going off and saying that the PS4 will not do as good as the PS3 because of a few minor changes is a blanket statement.

Also, who is telling this guy that most gamers are leaving their consoles in favor of PCs? Some people do get into PC gaming but there are games that do not go on the PC; exclusives sell systems along with the multiplatformers. If you cannot get it on the PC you will have to get it on the console of choice or unless you somehow mod your PC to play console games which in the end will cost you more in the long run.

Also the copycat games he mentions are not the consoles fault, that would be the fault of the developers of the games. No one can predict generation 8 and I wish people like this guy would stop trying. The PS4 is going to do fine and I hope the Vita picks up.

mistertwoturbo4061d ago

I'm going to get most of my games on the PC if it's available. However, the majority of PS4 games will be exclusive or something that I feel is worth it to get the PS4 version (IE: Battlefield 4) just to play with friends.

BanBrother4061d ago

"....Witch Hunter 3...."

I LOL'D.......hard.

Relientk774061d ago

I think there is already a lot of interest for the console and the PS4 will sell incredibly well. I am definitely getting one.

JonahNL4061d ago

It might not sell as well because of the financial crisis, but that would be the only reason then.

mushroomwig4061d ago

Financial crisis? That happened in 2008 and it certainly didn't have a great affect on the consoles sold then.

The recession is all but over now, there is no financial crisis anymore.

Knight_Crawler4061d ago (Edited 4061d ago )

Have you been watching the news lately.

Europe is going down the toilet with countries like Spain, Italy, Greece and many more having a crises melt down this economy is going to explode.

People like you and me that are from the US and Canada might not be feeling the economic downfall as much as our European alias but its going to at some point have a n impact on us.

Japan is also starting to feel the hit and JPY is looking weaker by the months.

MysticStrummer4061d ago

The financial crisis is far from over anywhere in the world.

WeAreLegion4061d ago

The entire world is in a recession, including the guys who are feeding us money, China.

Rainstorm814061d ago (Edited 4061d ago )

I kinda agree, when talking about consoles sales and prices its "oh the recession"

But where's the recession when a new iPhone or ipad or Sgalaxy is released at well above console prices, and sells like hot cakes?

While the global economy is greatly weakened, people still find a way to buy things they don't necessarily need.

Reverent4061d ago (Edited 4061d ago )

@Rainstorm81, what I'd really like to know is what kind of person is dumb enough to choose buying a new PHONE when they could use that money for one of the upcoming consoles or hell, even for helping with living expenses, or putting it aside to get out of the house for a vacation some day.. What's even worse, are the people who buy the newest model of a $500 phone every single year. God, a lot of people are really, really dumb with their money.

TechnicianTed4061d ago (Edited 4061d ago )

@mushroomwig

Lol, there is no financial crisis? Do you ever watch the news or read a paper every once in a while. The crisis is far from over, I don't know where you got the idea that it is.

Ignorance is bliss I guess...

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DigitalRaptor4061d ago

"As it turns out in fact, all three have struggled quite a fair bit in getting gamer’s attention and money. Though each console have reasons behind this — lack of launch titles, third-party support, customer understanding etc. — none of them are inherently bad consoles. In my opinion, it’s just that unless someone pulls out something utterly out-of-this-world, any console released this generation is going to suffer the exact same fate."

- Lack of launch titles? PS4 will have plenty.
- Third-party support? PS4 will have plenty.
- Customer understanding? Did this guy not watch the same conference as me?

This article is nothing more than a bunch of very loosely strung together ideas, rumour and speculation. It's like those articles that insist to us that Apple products will kill gaming.

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Tomb Raider Remastered just quietly censored one in-game detail

Tomb Raider 1-3 Remastered players are ticked off by the game’s most recent patch, which censors in-game pin-up posters of Lara Croft.

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rlow17h ago

This is why gaming is screwed. When people change things to fit someone’s agenda, it’s a slippery slope downhill.

Christopher6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Even if that agenda is of the developer? Way to remove developer rights.

***One player called it a “huge problem with modern games,” saying they can now be “ruined AFTER people buy them”.***

The level of drama. Yes, I recall sitting there for more hours than I did anything else in the game. These two pinups are the core of the game, after all!

coolbeans5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

rlow1's cringe catastrophizing aside, I do think developers *ought* to strive to maintain an original work to the best of their ability. The language of a "remaster" tacitly implies that - for good or ill - what's being resold is what fans remember but better.

Profchaos5h ago

Games can be ruined after purchasing them yeah we know this not from this but from GTA IV which had half it's radio content patched out due to licensing expirations and to me that was a huge deal.

This pin up poster is a bit of nonsense but the whole argument of modern games can be ruined post launch is Absol true.

DedicatedDark4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

It's not their work to censor. They are incharge of restoration & remastering the work, not overwriting it.

Barlos2h ago

It's not the agenda of the developer though, they're pandering and trying to increase their ESG score.

Way to support censorship...

victorMaje2h ago

It’s not the end of the world for sure, but I understand the hate towards this kind of change. I believe it’s also a matter of principle.

Imagine a Picasso painting being restored & the restorer deciding there aren’t enough strokes, or some lines aren’t straight enough or curved enough…not sure it would/should sit well with people.

Have all original devs signed off on this change? Even if it’s the case, are we saying older gamers are better mentally equipped to process what was there than current gamers, hence the change?

Enough time ago the case was made that games are an art form. We’re supposed to have won that case.
So which is it? Are games art or not?

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Eidolon3h ago

Hasn't this been happened for over a decade since remasters? I can't see that it's any worse now. Maybe if Sweet Baby starts getting their hands on remasters we will definitely have a problem.

Rebel_Scum5h ago

tbh I dont see something like this as censorship. Does anyone else not find it strange for someone to stick pin ups of themsleves in a locker room?

Now of it was a pin up of some half naked firefighters it might make sense as Lara might like that, and if they removed that I would cry censorship. But removing pin ups of the main character, yeah I get it.

Barlos2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

It's a game, and they were placed there for the audience. It's not real life. If it was, she wouldn't have fought a T-Rex now would she?

Yes, it's censorship but it's a bit less in your face. If they were in the original game, then they should have been in the remasters. It's bad enough that they have that ridiculous unnecessary warning at the start, but then they start removing things post launch. I don't care how small the change, they shouldn't be doing it. It's nothing but ESG pandering but in a subtle way.

Rebel_Scum1h ago

Look bro, if you have pictures of yourself naked on a bear skin rug up in your house let me tell you, its not normal.

jambola28m ago

I wasn't aware censorship was based on what made sense to you

Rebel_Scum16m ago

Likewise, what a stupid comment.

jambola5m ago

I agree
Your comment was pretty stupid

SimpleDad2h ago

By the year 2030, this remaster collection will totally be changed and censored. Probably will remove Lara as a playable character. It's ridiculous. Glad that my family didn't buy this.
I still have Tomb Raider 2 PS1 as a memory.

jambola28m ago

Those shorts are a little revealing
Should probably make them snow pants

Barlos18m ago

They'll probably make her trans

CobraKai2h ago

It’s mentioned in the article, and it’s a point i 100% agree with, it’s the fact that they can censor a game after you buy it. That’s total bullshit.

Killer2020UK1h ago

Whilst it's an overreaction to say this has "ruined" the game, it's still problematic that this has happened post launch and for many, post-purchase.

I don't want someone to change a product for the worse after I've bought it. The same goes for implementing micro transactions after reviews.

I wonder why they did this? Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

maykhausonninh1h ago

Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

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Final Fantasy III Pixel Remaster Review – You Are Your Job, Apparently

Gary Green said: In a time where an enhanced, 3D remake of Final Fantasy III already exists, it’s hard to argue that Final Fantasy III Pixel Remaster is the definitive version we were expecting. With Final Fantasy III already being the last in the series to be translated and make its way west, this is something of a slap in the face for the fans. Still, let’s not be disheartened. There may be many shortfalls in this edition of Final Fantasy III, however there’s no denying that this classic JRPG still holds some nostalgic value, even if it struggles to break away from its original hardware limitations.

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FACTUAL evidence7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

It’s funny I’m seeing these articles about pixel remaster, and I just platinumed 1-4 within 8 days lol. I’ve been on FF5 for about a week now. Let’s just say 5 was the start of FF having content like crazy. I should have the plat within 2-3 days.

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Warframe's Protea Prime Access launches on all platforms on May 1st, 2024

"Digital Extremes are today very happy and proud to announce that Warframe’s next highlightly anticipated Prime form launches soon with Protea Prime Access arriving on all platforms on May 1st, 2024." - Digital Extremes.