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Microsoft's head of Xbox doesn't see Valve as a competitor

Valve is preparing to enter the console market with its "Steam Box" gaming hardware, but Microsoft doesn't consider it as a competitor just yet. Speaking at Microsoft's TechForum this week, Don Mattrick, president of the Interactive Entertainment Business, fielded questions about the strategy for Xbox and its competition. Asked about viewing Valve as a competitor, Mattrick simply said "no" before noting Valve is "doing some innovative stuff" and creating some great experiences. "The scale of products and things that are being brought to market are probably a little bit richer when I look at Sony, Nintendo, Apple, and Google," noted Mattrick.

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Root4068d ago (Edited 4068d ago )

Lol

Déjà vu...right

Like when Sony didn't see Microsoft as a competitor or threat when they entered the console market

Be careful what you say Microsoft...anything could happen

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joab7774068d ago (Edited 4068d ago )

They have been a competitor on pc for a long time now. Many ppl have moved from consoles to pc and steam. Now they are taking that to the living room.

Its a very arrogant statement coming from a console that needs a big showing for next gen. The last 2 yrs havnt exactly been inspiring for the hardcore base. Either that, or has been written, Nintendo is their new competition for the casual a motion control audience.

r1sh124068d ago

i think this also depends on how valve market the steambox..
Whether it is a console more than a 'PC'.
Marketing will have more to do with this and the games that release with the steam box,

Im sure MS thought the interactive entertainment business would not be hurt by the Ipad but the Ipad is the reason for the reduction of PC and laptop sales..
It potentially could harm the gaming market too (maybe not now but in the near future).

Gildarts4068d ago

If they keep selling games for dirtcheap prices with the console then they are definitely a threat. Microsoft should not take them lightly.

LAZL0-Panaflex4068d ago (Edited 4068d ago )

Agreeed. Im gettin ps4 and steambox this time around and skipping wii u and xbox 3....so i would say if steambox didnt come and ps4 was still a cell chip with low ram i wouldve gotten the xbox 3. So tecnically steambox is a competition if its stealing customers from microsoft.

Last gen igot all three...but now ps4 is more like a pc with alot of ram with their bad ass game line up and i can play the 3rd party games that wont be shitty ports. I wantsteambox for steam and to play all the old pc games.

stage884068d ago

Don Mattrick - The slimiest guy in the video game business.

This guy just has a face you want to punch and has the charm of a greasy used car salesman. Back on topic, don't write valve off just yet, wait and see.

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Derekvinyard134068d ago

I thought Microsoft liked valve

Root4068d ago

After their new relationship with Sony and Steamworks for Portal 2....I'm afraid that "relationship" has come to an end

TheDivine4068d ago

Root I wouldn't count on any Valve games on Sony consoles. Why would they sell their games on another console after they launch theirs?

Gamer19824068d ago

Looking at rumored prices of steam box I cant see it touching console audience. Its gonna be premium PC market price (£700+) and thats a small market. Most those gamers also like to build there own systems so I feel Valve will fail. Shame as when I first heard of STEAM Box I was hoping for a cheap PC but it wasn't to be.

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BigStef714068d ago

Don Mattrick is the reason why the 360 went casual while abandoning the hardcore fanbase in the process. You can thank him for Kinect existing. This guy does not belong in the video game industry because all he cares about is gimmicks. Xbox had its best years was when J Allard was in charge. That guy was the man

BlueTemplar4068d ago

Completely agree - Allard and Peter Moore did great things for the xbox, things seemed to take a massive slide in the wrong direction (for me at least) when this guy took over.

BigStef714068d ago

Exactly!!! I have always felt uncomfortable with this guy ever since he took over lol

cervantes994068d ago

Agreed! The first couple of years were FANTASTIC on Xbox. The last couple? I could so care less.

Microsoft will have to give me (a member of the Hardcore) a reason to care again.

Translation - original and exciting IPs with no word of Kinect anywhere on the box. Otherwise, I'll just stay with PS4 only next gen.

BigStef714068d ago

Yea it was awesome to own a 360 for the first half of the consoles life but as soon as they stopped supporting the hardcore I switched to playstation which was the greatest decision of my life lol

HyperBear4068d ago

I agree, at least for me anyways, watching Peter Moore go on stage at Xbox Press Conferences was awesome. The way he commanded himself and spoke about developers and partnerships and showing off new and exciting games, and also throwing jabs at the competetion (Refers to E3 2006 at Sony, lol).

I was actually shocked when it was 2 weeks after E3 2007 that he announced he left Microsoft for EA Sports, and ever since then, Xbox hasn't been the same (led to J. Allard and Robbie Bach eventually leaving as well)

BigStef714068d ago

@HyperBear
Peter Moore is the man as well. That guy is one of the reasons the Dreamcast was awesome. He had my respect from his tenure at Sega but his great work at Microsoft made the hardcore want to own a 360 because the system was getting supported with exclusives at that time unlike the ps3(which is funny because the ps3 eventually became the hardcore gaers system which I am proud to own now lol). So basically once that trio of Moore , Allard , and Bach left the 360 went downhill from there no doubt in y mind
@ALLWRONG
shut your face Troll
@Gamer1982
Is it the right thing to do? definitely not but all the game industry now is about capitalism which is a sad thing because the quality in titles from AAA publishers is starting to show a decline. So with that said as gamers we should decide with our own money that we have no interest in the yearly milked sequels but that we want and deserve fresh new IP's. Also about switching consoles I was just suggesting if they actually cared they would support the hardcore but thats probably not going to happen which is disappointing. That's fine with me because I switched to Playstation a few years ago for good:)

ALLWRONG4068d ago

You PS3 fans would know about core games, after all the PS3 hasn't had any since 2011.

Outside_ofthe_Box4068d ago (Edited 4068d ago )

Starhawk, Twisted Metal, Journey, PSA Battle Royal, and Ni no Kuni all say hi.

@below

lol you trying to say Starhawk, TM, Journey and Ni no Kuni are made for the masses? If so then you fail.

Gamer19824068d ago

Money talks though.. Those so called hardcore fans stuck around and most will probably buy the new xbox and the casual direction MS took brought in a new audience. So do you think MS really cares about Hardcore gamers? NO as they know you will stick around for Halo, Forza and Gears and a bit of exclusive DLC. You moan about it being crap yet continue to buy MS console. Gamers have all the power in the industry NOT Microsoft NOT Sony and certainly not Nintendo as we are the ones buying the consoles. If your unhappy with the decisions and where your consoles headed go to another console. I did and never looked back. I'm not mainly a PC gamer..

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thebudgetgamer4068d ago

He better be carefull, I'm already eying Steam Box more that the next Microsoft console.

TongkatAli4068d ago

Remember Microsofts comments about the Iphone when it came out ? Yeah, Microsoft isn't good at reading the future.

majiebeast4068d ago (Edited 4068d ago )

Steam offers a better service for free then xboxlive and has as much third party support so what does Microsoft have that steam doesnt besides some exclusives like Halo,Forza and Gears?

If i was Microsoft i wouldnt take the steambox lightly.

MakiSaad24068d ago

Valve has Half-Life and they can make left 4 dead an exclusive as well so microsoft should be worried about their future market share in the US

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere12h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN9h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos7h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN21m ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo2h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

PassNextquestion11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger9h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Profchaos11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto11h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos11h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long8h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel10h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator9h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10111d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref11d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde10d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197210d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville10d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218310d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos10d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai11d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref11d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan11d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00710d ago (Edited 10d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197211d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref11d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde10d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197210d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197210d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier10d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto10d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218310d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto10d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman11d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts10d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts9d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic10d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Why Are Steam's Recommendations Dogpoop?

Blindfolding myself and clicking a Steam page at random would serve me better recommendations than Steam’s algorithm

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UltimateOwnage15d ago

Hmm, not sure I agree with that. The recommendations I get are usually pretty good, but then again I have pretty large library of games on Steam and hundreds of them in my wish list, along with lots of curators I follow for it to build recommendations off of. On occasion it will throw me a random FIFA game or something I've never bought or shown interest in, but mostly its decent IMO.