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Rumor: Sony to Ship 16 Million PlayStation 4 Units in 2013

According to DigiTimes, Sony anticipates that PlayStation 4 will reach annual shipments of 16 million units in 2013. If true, this would make it the largest launch of any console.

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DarkBlood4067d ago

thats a large launch? i got to say im suprised i first thought it was comparably small, but if this is worldwide then im not so certain about this number

i better preorder immediatly after i find out the price

fabod864067d ago

Are you kidding right? XD
16 million shipments at launch, if true, it's simply HUGE...

jujubee884067d ago

Well, I am still pre-ordering. And I will be there at launch day, waiting in line!

Camp-time come holiday 2013! Wooohoooo!!! :D

ArmGunar4066d ago

That's a good news !!

It means, the PS4 will release in Europe too fall 2013, yeah :P

RememberThe3574066d ago

Yeah, thats double the best case scenario for a half years (two fiscal quarters) worth of system sales. And nothing in the article really supports the 16 million unit number. They have new markets in South America, Asia, and Africa, but these numbers are huge.

This is either bullshit, which it probably is, or Sony is gearing up to take the throne. By force.

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TheTwelve4066d ago

One of those PS4s has my name on it....

iGamerZero244066d ago

And one of them has my name on it ! Can
Not wait till launch day

mistertwoturbo4066d ago

Most of my friends are planning to buy one on release day.

So I'm getting three.

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4066d ago (Edited 4066d ago )

Might be true. Sony going hard lately.

Plus how hard is it to build a pc?

aGameDeveloper4066d ago

Yeah, it is quite large - not to mention possibly overly-optimistic - especially considering Sony will only have about 4 months to ship that many, and it usually takes a year before sales really start taking off.

Saigon4066d ago

All,

We have to remember that sony fiscal year is different than the standard year. Their year ends in March 2014, so this number doe sound reasonable.

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WiiUsauce4066d ago

they might ship 16 million, but they'll only sell around 3-5 million by the end of the year. there is no way they're going to sell 16 million in the second half of this year. There's only about 5 million Sony drones out there anyway, so they'll sell to the drones for sure.

BISHOP-BRASIL4066d ago

Dan Holmes literally have part of his name in one of those.

miyamoto4066d ago (Edited 4066d ago )

This

http://palmettopublicrecord...

Does this mean PS4 will be very affordable?
PC parts are dirt cheap in Taiwan and China because they are not niche components.

Have you guys see a grown man cry because of excitement?

Ares84HU4066d ago

It is a large number considering the fact that it will only be released officially this year in Japan and the US. I will preorder it and pay in full probably through amazon. There is no way in hell that I'm going to stand in line like when the PS3 came out. One of the worst experiences in my life. I've never seen people sink so low in my life than what I've seen there.

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subtenko4065d ago

It's Over 9000 aawrhhhhh! :D

Day 1 preorder.

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KrisButtar4067d ago

I am thinking it is large. comparing even comparing it to the Wii U, with its launch, these PS4 numbers are way higher

Ju4066d ago

For reference. Current gen consoles launched with <10M and reached 10-13 in a full calendar year. I could imagine there will be high demand. But 16 is too high, unless this is a quote for a whole year, not just launch. Not sure why'd bind so much capital, though. Maybe to get better rates on components??

DeadlyFire4066d ago

16 million in how many months and possibly two regions? WTF are you guys smoking. I want some of it.

On average a console sells less than 2 million in first 3 months. Now if you guys are talking about from 2013 launch until 2014 launch date(1 full calender year). Then yes 16 Million is possible, but even so its a little higher than I expected. As PS3 and X360 in one year sold 10.x Million. So I was expecting 12-13 million possibly in one full year.

KrisButtar4066d ago

@ Ju, better rates on components makes a lot of sense, and maybe thats why its being done, to pass the savings on to us, so theres no big price tag

@ deadlyfire, i think the ps4 is going to have a world wide launch, not staggered like the ps3 launch. still those numbers are high, maybe ordering that many in bulk grabs a high discount?

BlackTar1874066d ago

Deadly fire,

You also have to relize that that may be how many are sold but at least in California finding one of those systems is pretty hard and requires waiting in lines to get. The Supply is way under demand on almost every console at launch by ahuge margin. Im not quite sure why no one has brought that up yet. in cali it took months for us to get a wii and took about a month to get a PS3 after waiting in line at Bestbuy with like 100 other people where they only had 5 for sale.

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DarkBlood4067d ago (Edited 4067d ago )

well no im not kidding, this could just be a number for united states i have no idea if canada or anywhere else is a part of this launch and if so would have to be split up. So to the best of my knowledge that doesnt sound like a alot to me if thats the case

Cupid_Viper_34066d ago (Edited 4066d ago )

"So to the best of my knowledge that doesnt sound like a alot to me if thats the case"

Clearly the "Best of your knowledge" is not much and highly out of line with reality. The PS2 at the peak of its selling powers was shipping between 16-20 million units a year worlwide. Educate yourself, then speak "to the best of your knowledge".

DarkBlood4066d ago

relax sir, not like i was trying to pull a "mika" here or anything.

KwietStorm_BLM4066d ago

Console manufacturers hope to push those numbers in a whole year. How could 16 mil this year, When it launches this holiday, Not be a big deal?

mandf4067d ago

9 will be sold to my family. We played video games growing up with no cable.

flyingmunky4066d ago

That's the best way to grow up!
Who needs cable tv anyway?

mandf4066d ago

Yeah it sucked being poor. My uncle bought me an Atari and I never went back to tv.

AngelicIceDiamond4066d ago

Sony's confident not cocky. That's a ton of shipements that may not pay off. I think this is false.

Cupid_Viper_34066d ago

You don't foresee the PS4 selling 16 million consoles? I'm struggling to understand your logic here, please explain.

HammadTheBeast4066d ago

They were going to be made anyways....

AngelicIceDiamond4066d ago

I was just saying Sony needs to be careful. I can see Sony Selling 16 mill, eventually. I understand they want to go hard but what if Something happens like they're not selling as good as they were hoping.

I'm not saying they won't sale well or have a tough launch but 8 or 9 mill is a safe bet.

akaakaaka4066d ago

Yes please!! Sony.. I want to get mine without a problem or having to wait..
and I have a feeling that even then it will be very hard to get one on the first month..

Crazyglues4066d ago (Edited 4066d ago )

I think people are missing the bigger picture...

If SONY is confident they can sell 16 million units in 2013 then I think that also points to a reasonable price point on PS4 - it won't go over $600

To sell that many units you have to be priced just right and I think we could see a price between $529 & $599 or maybe even lower.. (but it will not be over 600)

16 million is huge, even the iPhone 5 had like 9 million units at launch and sold 5 million in 3 days.. So this is possible but the price has to be right in-order to do those kind of numbers..

I think it's a safe bet that the system will not go over 600 (So you can start saving now with 600 as your target- then add 150+ tax because you know your going to need some games at launch)

Mine will be -(Day-One buys)

DriveClub
Killzone
Watch Dogs

-OMG- how could I forget-

Battlefield 4
Assassin Creed IV

Guess that 150 is going to have to be +250

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Conzul4066d ago

U no liek inFamous? :(

KwietStorm_BLM4066d ago

Why would you even suggest *over* 600? Of course it won't go over, but 599 would be the same thing all over again, and they won't meet expectations at that price. That's why even your low ball seems high.

kevnb4066d ago

i think $500 would be too much for those kind of numbers. if its $250-$300 maybe. But i cant see it being that cheap.

Ju4066d ago

Those number would actually suggest <400 entry price. 250-300 is too low, but 600 is too hight. My guess is around 400.

Crazyglues4066d ago

@ Conzul

OMG! how could I leave out Infamous - ok change that to about +350 because infamous is of course a day one buy

Looks like a safe bet is just have a $1000 ready for launch system + Games

@ KwietStorm

that's a good point, it's the GDDR5 ram -that's expensive so I was thinking we could get over, but now I'm thinking 5 something.. -Trust me I want it lower too but I was just thinking based off the specs and playing it safe..

@ kevnb

I agree, but how much lower can it really go, under 500 and SONY could be taking a real lost on each unit..remember PS3 launched at $599 and to do 16 million units is a lot to be taking a lost on..
I think if it comes in under 500 it's flying off the self. No question. But-250-300 is just too unrealistic, I'm sorry but look how long it too PS3 to get to that price point.. PS4 won't launch that low.

na2ru14066d ago

It wir serr fo FOOO HUNDUDAN FIFTI.......DORRARS.
Just my imagination literally.

ceballos77mx4066d ago

400-450 would be the sweet spot for me.

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dafegamer4066d ago

omg i nearly crushed my skull, while facepalming

Thatguy-3104066d ago

I highly doubt it. Though it will be good that number is just too high for a launch. If true then Sony is hiding a lot of things seeing how they have a lot of confiden in the ps4. True or not though I'm going to pre-order mine as soon as its available. Have a feeling they're going to sky rocket off retails quickly.

stuna14066d ago

This may very well be the hint we've been waiting on as far as the PS4 affordability.

MysticStrummer4066d ago (Edited 4066d ago )

That's what I was thinking. If they launch in all the biggest territories simultaneously at a low enough price, the 16 million number might make sense.

But, it's probably just wrong.

ceballos77mx4066d ago

And also a launch window.

fr0sty4066d ago

I know where 4 of them will be...

donman14066d ago

If true... Sony making sure all the mistakes they made this current gen (last to launch, too expensive and difficult to develop for) does not happen for their next gen console. This means I expect their price to be $400 - $450.

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Chaostar4067d ago

That's fairly ambitious, can they even manufacture that many in time? If so, what's stopping them from releasing world wide at the end of the year?

mandf4066d ago

This probably a made up rumor. Release worldwide is hard for any console to do because of localization of games. Usually the games just aren't ready in time for some territories.

bicfitness4067d ago

That number seems crazy inflated. They would have to launch in September and sell 2.5 million to 3 million each month until the end of Fiscal Year 2013 (March 2014). I don't think that this information is correct. Maybe its 16 million in the first calendar year. But even that seems like a lot.

flyingmunky4066d ago

I certainly wouldn't begrudge a September launch, be nice not to have to deal with the Xmas rush while trying to get my console and accessories.

jetlian4066d ago (Edited 4066d ago )

1st they wont have 16 million made by then. 2nd sony fiscal year (2013) ends in march 2013. So this article is talking about calender 2013 which gives them 3 months time.

So 5.3 million a month isnt happening. maybe 1.6 million depending on when it comes out

Tei7774066d ago

It is a lie.

The ps4 is not shipping 16m units between its "holiday 2013 release" and december 31st. Unless they don't intend to replenish stock for the whole of 2014, which obviously is not the case lol

Deelow4066d ago

Either way Sony may be just ensuring they have consoles on the shelf for Christmas. I remember having a hard time getting a PS3.

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Tomb Raider Remastered just quietly censored one in-game detail

Tomb Raider 1-3 Remastered players are ticked off by the game’s most recent patch, which censors in-game pin-up posters of Lara Croft.

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rlow113h ago

This is why gaming is screwed. When people change things to fit someone’s agenda, it’s a slippery slope downhill.

Christopher12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Even if that agenda is of the developer? Way to remove developer rights.

***One player called it a “huge problem with modern games,” saying they can now be “ruined AFTER people buy them”.***

The level of drama. Yes, I recall sitting there for more hours than I did anything else in the game. These two pinups are the core of the game, after all!

coolbeans11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

rlow1's cringe catastrophizing aside, I do think developers *ought* to strive to maintain an original work to the best of their ability. The language of a "remaster" tacitly implies that - for good or ill - what's being resold is what fans remember but better.

Profchaos11h ago

Games can be ruined after purchasing them yeah we know this not from this but from GTA IV which had half it's radio content patched out due to licensing expirations and to me that was a huge deal.

This pin up poster is a bit of nonsense but the whole argument of modern games can be ruined post launch is Absol true.

DedicatedDark10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

It's not their work to censor. They are incharge of restoration & remastering the work, not overwriting it.

Barlos9h ago

It's not the agenda of the developer though, they're pandering and trying to increase their ESG score.

Way to support censorship...

victorMaje9h ago

It’s not the end of the world for sure, but I understand the hate towards this kind of change. I believe it’s also a matter of principle.

Imagine a Picasso painting being restored & the restorer deciding there aren’t enough strokes, or some lines aren’t straight enough or curved enough…not sure it would/should sit well with people.

Have all original devs signed off on this change? Even if it’s the case, are we saying older gamers are better mentally equipped to process what was there than current gamers, hence the change?

Enough time ago the case was made that games are an art form. We’re supposed to have won that case.
So which is it? Are games art or not?

Aphrodia1h ago

And what of the rights of the buyer? The ones that purchased this game with hard earned money? They bought a product that is now being changed into a different product. Surely you would stand up for them since you are about "rights"?

Christopher1h ago

***It's not their work to censor. ***

They own the IP. It's theirs too do with as they wish.

***It's not the agenda of the developer though, they're pandering and trying to increase their ESG score. ***

You got proof of this? And even if this were true, isn't it the developer right to want whatever an ESG score is?

***from GTA IV which had half it's radio content patched out due to licensing expirations and to me that was a huge deal. ***

Licensed music is always going to get changed unless they can afford to keep paying those fees sadly.

***Imagine a Picasso painting being restored & the restorer deciding there aren’t enough strokes, or some lines aren’t straight enough or curved enough…not sure it would/should sit well with people. ***

You do know in the original that the artwork is extremely pixelated so you can't even tell what it is, right? Shouldn't we then be arguing that they increased the detail of this artwork at all then? Why the remaster? Picasso got it right already with the original.

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Eidolon9h ago

Hasn't this been happened for over a decade since remasters? I can't see that it's any worse now. Maybe if Sweet Baby starts getting their hands on remasters we will definitely have a problem.

Rebel_Scum12h ago

tbh I dont see something like this as censorship. Does anyone else not find it strange for someone to stick pin ups of themsleves in a locker room?

Now of it was a pin up of some half naked firefighters it might make sense as Lara might like that, and if they removed that I would cry censorship. But removing pin ups of the main character, yeah I get it.

Barlos9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

It's a game, and they were placed there for the audience. It's not real life. If it was, she wouldn't have fought a T-Rex now would she?

Yes, it's censorship but it's a bit less in your face. If they were in the original game, then they should have been in the remasters. It's bad enough that they have that ridiculous unnecessary warning at the start, but then they start removing things post launch. I don't care how small the change, they shouldn't be doing it. It's nothing but ESG pandering but in a subtle way.

Rebel_Scum7h ago

Look bro, if you have pictures of yourself naked on a bear skin rug up in your house let me tell you, its not normal.

jambola6h ago

I wasn't aware censorship was based on what made sense to you

Rebel_Scum6h ago

Likewise, what a stupid comment.

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Aphrodia1h ago

And Lara Croft is also a mass murderer everywhere she goes. Why didn't they patch that out as well? See, anyone can spew pedantic BS.

CrimsonWing691h ago

How is it not censorship? They are removing suggestive content due to not wanting to offend SJWs and woke people. They literally removed something already in the game that nobody even thought twice about just like a movie on cable television is edited for content… y’know, like literally removing scenes because of not wanting to offend a public audience? How is this different?

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SimpleDad8h ago

By the year 2030, this remaster collection will totally be changed and censored. Probably will remove Lara as a playable character. It's ridiculous. Glad that my family didn't buy this.
I still have Tomb Raider 2 PS1 as a memory.

jambola6h ago

Those shorts are a little revealing
Should probably make them snow pants

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Christopher1h ago

Have fun falling off that cliff at the end of the slippery slope.

CobraKai8h ago

It’s mentioned in the article, and it’s a point i 100% agree with, it’s the fact that they can censor a game after you buy it. That’s total bullshit.

Christopher1h ago

Just FYI, every game has that right.

Killer2020UK8h ago

Whilst it's an overreaction to say this has "ruined" the game, it's still problematic that this has happened post launch and for many, post-purchase.

I don't want someone to change a product for the worse after I've bought it. The same goes for implementing micro transactions after reviews.

I wonder why they did this? Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

maykhausonninh7h ago

Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

Christopher1h ago

My thinking is that the original artworks might be community created.

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