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Why Gran Turismo 6 on PS3 Makes Perfect Sense

A huge install base on PS3 combined with another studio's realistic racing game on PS4 means that GT6 on PS3 makes a great deal of sense. Right?

mistertwoturbo4066d ago

Well, that and it took them what, 5 years to make GT5's engine which is probably better suited to the Cell Processor.

EbeneezerGoode4066d ago

If they want to shift PS4s, releasing a MASSIVE title like GT6 on their previous console just as they release the new console is a bit of an ass-backwards move no matter how you look at it.

They should be looking at the future, early adopters, getting market share - not worrying about a bit of extra cash coming in from the millions of PS3 users.

Releasing on both systems with a MUCH upgraded PS4 version is the ONLY sensible option imo.

Otherwise someone when faced with 'buy PS4 or stick with PS3 + GT6' may do the latter and spend months with the game rather than going out to buy a PS4.

Bad move if true. Game sales and install base is no excuse to fuck up your own market share when everything is in place to dominate the next gen even before it starts!

If GT6 was going to be PS3 all along then they should have released it in 2012 BEFORE the PS4 announcement. Stupid timing.

mistertwoturbo4065d ago

Well I agree. I'm on the side of "They should release it on PS4."

Not only will it make the PS4 investment more worthwhile, it would also just be awesome to see GT6 without hardware limitations.

MYSTERIO3604065d ago (Edited 4065d ago )

I totally agree with you EbeneezerGoode, Sony are already expecting quite large sells from the games expected this year. Im sure Sony will get large sells from GOW ascension, The last of us and Beyond two souls, they don't need to release GT6. GT6 is such as huge game for Sony they should DEFINITELY has this as a launch (or a much upgraded version if it end up going on PS3)for PS4. As much as GT fans want the game now i think they will be a bit disappointed given the limitations of current gen hardware.I want GT but not this gen still playing GT5.

Ares84HU4065d ago

If GT6 will be on PS3 I will not be getting it if it comes out after PS4 release. I'll be playing PS4 games by than.

Spoon_4065d ago

Ps3 is so limited compared to these capabilities PD could do with ps4! Standard cars with ps2 graphics pshhhhhh you can have that sh!t I will be supporting the future of what gaming has to offer holiday 2013

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Felonycarclub84065d ago

And also Sony still supports their older systems so it would make sense.plus like you said GT 5 engine was made for the ps3 not ps4 in mind and polyphony and Sony need to make money and they would make more money on ps3 than ps4. Which will benefit gran turismo 7 for ps4, plus they could do what they did with GT 5 to help with the waiting. Which is release a GT 7 prologue :-)

level 3604066d ago

GT6 on PS3 is a load of nonsense.

It will be on PS4.

Definitely a *Top *Gem Sony production and title and honestly believe Sony would only befit this game into the best console.

riverstars864066d ago

The game is made for PS3, even if it was ported to PS4, Drive Club's graphics would look a lot better.

jimbobwahey4066d ago

I'm not sure that it would matter. If GT6 was released for both PS3 & PS4, the PS4 version could just be a quick port that runs at a rock solid 60fps/1080p, has the blocky shadows/smoke effects fixed and makes use of the PS4 OS functions like crossgame chat and the recording of gameplay footage via the share button etc.

It would take the absolute bare minimum of effort to do a quick port, but would then offer PS4 owners the chance to play a slightly better version if they want to. It's a win/win for both Sony and their customers.

MYSTERIO3604065d ago (Edited 4065d ago )

@jimbobwahey Im sure GT6 would look great for PS3 and PS4 (with an upscaled HD version) but Sony could easily do that with GT5. i don't want polyphony studios to be held back by hardware limitations but by creative limitations with the PS4. The GT series is such as huge system sell what best way to show case the new systems power while increasing the systems installbase. PS3 already has exclusive games coming out this year that look great.

2pacalypsenow4066d ago

GOW 2 came out on ps2 because they wanted those 100's of millions of people to play it not just those lucky enough to have a ps3 at the time, I see the same happening with the Ps3 and Ps4

riverstars864066d ago

That is the main reason it won't be on PS4. Also, if it came to PS4, it wouldn't look much better since the game is developed for PS3 hardware.

crazyturkey4066d ago (Edited 4066d ago )

I would prefer it if they were to release it simultaneously on both the PS3 and PS4..........However, I do understand that it could be bad for Drive club's sales(if its a launch title), if GT6 released as competition. If Drive club is not a launch title, then not releasing GT6 on PS4 could cause Sony to obtain a smaller consumer base than they could, if GT6 was available at launch. Now more importantly when the next Gran Turismo hits the PS4, I'm hoping that old PS3 Wheels are compatible with the PS4.

EbeneezerGoode4066d ago (Edited 4066d ago )

NOBODY cares about Drive clubs sales, Sony cares about PS4 sales - it's the lifeblood at the start of a new gen and they should be pulling out all the stops to make it a success. Drive club is a poor substitute for a fresh new Gran Turismo on a new system (even if it ends up being a great game itself)

Who here didn't imagine a GT6 on PS4 when we first heard PS4 rumours of being THIS year?

It's simply stupid timing to release GT6 now on PS3. It won't even sell that well and by not being on PS4 will also be unable to push PS4 sales.

Why won't it sell that well? I'm a massive GT fan but already I saw in GT5 that the tech wasn't quite there yet to do it justice... I have NO desire to buy basically a minorly upgraded (tech wise) GT for a system I'm about to abandon for PS4!

It could have rocked on PS4 anyone with a brain knows this, and unless they also have a GT7 ready for PS4 in the first year, this is one of the worst moves they could make.

There is simply no 'need' for a GT6 on PS3 when GT5 isn't even 'finished' or fully formed yet. Add on packs, car upgrades etc would have been fine. We need a whole new engine, massive graphics/physics upgrades that can only come from the new PS4 and it's enhanced spec!

Re7lex4065d ago

This!

This is easily the best post on this topic.

The_KELRaTH4066d ago

It'll keep the media happy with the endless graphics compare shots and video's :)

ErazorDJ4066d ago

PSX = Gran Turismo & Gran Turismo 2
PS2 = Gran Turismo 3 & Gran Turismo 4
PS3 = Gran Turismo 5 & Gran Turismo 6

logical..

EbeneezerGoode4066d ago

Except when they released GT4 they hadn't already announced the next playstation coming in the *SAME YEAR*

ILLOGICAL

phinch4065d ago

ok hears logical, why sell your biggest weapon with a console that has no install base, when you could release one on a console that has sold 75 million+ who says they arent working on gt7 alreadyw tih the new engine? whats the harm in making a few extra million to fund gt7 on the ps4

SDF Repellent4065d ago

If you looked at the development of GT5, it took them years and the budget must be astronomical. Why wouldn't it make sense for Sony to get another GT game on the PS3 when they already have the game engine, car models, and etc already established and have a 70 million base to sell it to. It is going to be a few years before you will see GT on the PS4 because they they need to build it from the ground up.

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Comparing the New Grand Valley in Gran Turismo 7 to the Original

A detailed look at Gran Turismo 7's new track Grand Valley, judging its evolution from its former design and layout in Gran Turismo 6, side by side.

SullysCigar422d ago (Edited 422d ago )

Wow, crazy isn't it? The draw distance is vastly improved, the background textures too and there's ZERO shimmer now. And the replays are night and day!

EIDT: @below, Haha I didn't notice that!

IRetrouk422d ago

Yeah, theres a massive improvment all round, Looks amazing with the time of day transitions too, me and a couple online buddies jumped on earlier to try it out lol, did you notice the beach full of seals?

closed_account422d ago

That coastline looks amazing and I can only imagine it in VR! Looks like an entirely new course as far as scenery goes.

IRetrouk422d ago

Yeah, those views are going to be crazy when we are "there" can't wait!

PureBlood422d ago

Just got confirmation my PSVR2 is shipping by 24 hour courier, so I should have it tomorrow! I know nobody else cares, but I had to tell someone lol

GT7 will be my first game, as I want to test out my wheel - so excited - it's going to be awesome!

Deathdeliverer422d ago

I got my confirmation and date (22nd) showing for the charging station. The headset itself has been in “shipped-processing” status since last Friday. I’m like dang can I see the date? I was in the first round of preorders. Whenever it does get here, I’m ready. Going to go update everything and try to get over this cold.

PureBlood422d ago

Wish you better, bud, fingers crossed for your order too.

@S2Killinit - Thank you!

IRetrouk422d ago

I care👊🏻, mine is still saying prep for shipping😔

PureBlood422d ago

Thanks man 👊

Word of advice: be ready for the impromptu jig that happens when that email drops, it can be embarrassing..

DaReapa422d ago

Just got my second shipping confirmation email as well.

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S2Killinit422d ago

Man i caant wait. One day left!

Flawlessmic422d ago

I know you and a lot of people are excited for VR but dont sleep on sophy, sophy is the real game changer here!

After giving sophy a run last night, i can safely say the actual racing in future GT's is going to be Fu***** amazing!!!

even on intermediate on some tracks the AI was coming back at me on my waiting for me to slip, attacking the space if i left the door open for them, honestly felt like i was racing against people and not some very limited AI that once i passed them they may as well have been eliminated from the race like GT ai normally is.

pump it up to expert and its a real challenge to stay ahead, the next level up from expert man the AI kicked my ass, like badly.

i remember when sophy was first annouced all the nay sayers said its a pipe dream and we will never see it implemented and here we are a yr later and sophy is being tested in game for us to try out and is every good as whats been promised.

VR plus racing against sophy and wowww your not gonna feal like your actually racing for real anywhere else outside of gt.

sophy will change the game in gt8

S2Killinit422d ago

Hm I didnt realize it was like that. I didnt even know why there was so much hype about it. But thanknyou for explaining that. I mean I get it now.

But I’ll be seeing it in action tomorrow! Woot woot.

Flawlessmic422d ago

It's only for a limited time and only has 4 races but I encourage you and everyone else try it and see the difference compared to the normal Ai.

Sophy has slipped completely under the radar in this latest uodate

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Father__Merrin422d ago

Wow gt6 was awesome under appreciated because of time it came out

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What Happened To Gran Turismo?

When thinking about simulation racing games in this console generation, it’s not unreasonable for your first thought to be “Forza”. Microsoft’s first-party sim-racer series has been wildly successful, and for many of us, it’s been the go-to franchise for quite some time. But simulation racing games weren’t always synonymous with Forza; there was a time when Polyphony Digital’s hardcore series, Gran Turismo, reigned supreme. While the long-time franchise continues to sell exceptionally well, there’s no doubt that it isn’t the young, spry series it used to be.

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darthv721700d ago

It doesnt suck but I would love to see a return to form with GT7. Sport is such a departure that it can turn some people off. It has gotten better over time but it's still no match for a proper GT7.

Rude-ro1700d ago

Sport is awesome for what it is...
However, polygon built a whole new engine and the tech is still being worked on...
I understand it is easy to praise a cookie cutter because it release the same game over and over with rotations of maps and cars...
But this engine polygon has designed does more for things other than gaming.

Repetitive old engines with new makeup does not make anyone king.

Gt7 will be most likely in two years with 120fps and ray tracing because their new engines are ready now.

LordStig1700d ago

It decided to focus on racing rather than cars and in the gaming world, racing = gameplay.

Imalwaysright1700d ago

What complete and utter BS. GT has always focused on racing and gameplay.

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neutralgamer19921700d ago

Good I guess selling millions of copies and have OFFICIAL FIA license races and Esports means it sucks

We just don't get it every year which is why ms also delayed next forza. You can't keep making yearly sequels. Quality and innovation takes time

GT sports at launch to now it's a different game and support has been free

Imalwaysright1700d ago

GT games have always sold millions of copies and what's so innovative about GT sport? It's a racing game FFS.

IRetrouk1699d ago

The online championships and tournaments alone offer more innovation than any racer this gen🤷‍♂️ then you also get the live ones in New York etc with proper race like commentary, something else no other sim has done before. It sells millions because it's the best, simple really.

Imalwaysright1699d ago (Edited 1699d ago )

IRetrouk

I'm not even sure why think that having proper like race commentary or championships and tournements is innovative but I'll play along... GT Sport was released in 2017 so how do explain that this video https://www.youtube.com/wat... from 2016 exists?

Dark_Knightmare21699d ago

Spoken like someone who hasn’t played sport

Imortus_san1698d ago

And those Paid demos, that fans try to hide and not talk about it.

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SCW19821700d ago

It became the best online racing community for console players and its an amazing achievment.

Keltech1700d ago

"Forza?" HaHaHaHaHaHaHa!! good joke!

kayoss1700d ago

Too early for an Aprils fool joke.

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ElementX1700d ago

@solidgamerX That's really not very impressive. Somebody with an interest in cars plays racing games and becomes a race car driver. That's like saying "look at this guy, he played COD and now he's in the military"

Imalwaysright1700d ago

SolidGamerX

You must think that we're all stupid enough to believe that a game will turn anyone into a professional racing driver.

Prince-Ali1700d ago

FORZA!!! AAHAHHAHA !! Haven't i schooled you on this already before! You're still spewing nonsense on this threaddd looool

mcstorm1700d ago

Forza has always been better online than. GT and still is. Great to see PD try something different with GTS but let's face it this gen sonys racing games have been poor this then compaired to what Microsoft has had to offer. Forza 7 is one of the best racing games on xbox and pc but for me Horizon 3 and 4 have set the bar this gen. Of all the things microsoft got wrong this gen 2 of its racing games got a lot right and others are now playing catchup.

DarXyde1700d ago

It's debatable which is the better game. To me, Forza has the upper hand.

But in terms of online community and events? Ha. Don't lie to yourself just because you don't like Playstation.

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Dark_Knightmare21699d ago

Lol not even close have you even played gt sport online?

Imalwaysright1699d ago (Edited 1699d ago )

SolidGamerX

You didn't need to confirm what I already knew: if you didn't think that we're all stupid you wouldn't make such stupid comments that only those that are dead from the neck up will agree with.

IRetrouk1699d ago (Edited 1699d ago )

Did he say gt could turn anyone into a racer? No he didnt, he asked what game has done it like gt has, which is true, gt academy done it throughout gt5 for a start. You need to do some research fella, cause your wrong.. again.

And lmao at element and the downplay, not even similar you crazy man, not even similar🤣 you realise gt has turned gamers into drivers from gt5? Go look at gt academy and tell me how that would be anything like someone playing cod and then joining the army, the downplay in gt articles is funny.

ElementX1699d ago

So you think he learned the required skills playing video games? I remember when people claimed children were learning how to operate guns because of video games, do you think that's also true?

IRetrouk1699d ago (Edited 1699d ago )

Two completely different things and you know it, it is a fact that gt has helped real gamers become real race drivers, the proof is easily available online and I'm not going round searching for links that has been posted many, many times before on this subject, Go and look at gt academy like I mentioned and you can see for yourself, they start out on gt and go from there, so yes the game gran turismo teaches you some driving techniques, now if you can find me a link where someone has been playing cod and went on to become a war hero, please let me know because I couldnt find anything, also do you have a link to where cod has a program to train soldiers? Like cod academy or something?, I couldnt find one of those either, maybe when you do then your comparison will actually make sense.

Imalwaysright1699d ago

IRetrouk

You mean the GT academy that provides training and licenses for a person to become a professional racing driver? The GT academy is how you go from being an average driving joe to become a professional racing driver not GT the game.

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xRacer74x1700d ago

Forza owns the racing game scene in my area as far as video games go.

dekke1700d ago

Forza = Arcade
GT= Sim

why u ppl keep comparing those 2 games every time..

Keltech1700d ago (Edited 1700d ago )

GT owns the console sim racing scene in my area and around the world. Just ask a real race car drivers

https://youtu.be/2pC3-eCAdv...

LordStig1700d ago

Forza isn't a racing game. It's a car game.

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Hungryalpaca1700d ago

I’ll stick to sims. You keep playing with your hot wheels.

King_Noctis1700d ago

You forget that there are two Forzas, Forza Motorsport and Forza Horizon, which aims at different audiences.

King Nezz1700d ago

The usual response from someone insecure that feels their favorite racing game is nowhere near as good as it once was. I really liked Gran and played them all. Loved the Vector from part 2. But the franchise is not the same.

Gaming4Life19811700d ago

Yea Forza took over and is now the best sim racer with motorsport and the best arcade racer with horizon. GT was the best but it has been falling short for a long time and I'm not saying gt games are bad but no where near king like it used to be. I'd say forza motorsport 3 was the forza that really upped the franchise and forza 4 was when forza became #1.

I remember the glory days of gt but those days are long gone but it's still a good game just not the best. Of course ps fans will never admit it because they will die before giving MS credit.

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Nacho_Z1700d ago

I do think they need some new creative heads in to give them some new perspectives, they seem stuck in a rut. It's a very high quality rut but they're still stuck in it.

LordStig1700d ago

The USA leg of the Gran Turismo World Tour is going on in New York right now. Go watch it guys, there's some damn good racing and crazy updates to come.

Nacho_Z1700d ago

I've seen some of it before and to be fair it's not much different to watching real motorsport so credit to them for that.

Heavenly King1700d ago

the MACH 5 :) GO SPEED rACEr!!

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Gran Turismo 5, Gran Turismo 6, Wipeout HD, God of War 3 and more running on PC via the latest RPCS3

DSOGaming writes: "It appears that the best Playstation 3 emulator that is currently under development, RPCS3, received a new update recently. kd-11 has implemented new Surface Cache fixes to RPCS3 that reportedly improve the appearance of car reflections in Gran Turismo 6, and fix various graphics glitches in other games."

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gangsta_red1737d ago

If someone out there in internet land could make a decent PS3 emulator imagine what Sony could actually do if they put the time and effort in to make this happen for their next console?

It's definitely not impossible as we can see here. It should definitely be done since BC seems to be very important to Sony this next gen. Imagine PS+ free game offerings from Sony that could include the whole catalog from the PS console family..fantastic.

Silly gameAr1737d ago

Why waste time and money on it? Some people want to move forward, not go back.

Eonjay1737d ago

It's not a deal breaker but having the feature would be amazing. I would rather have it than not have it.

gangsta_red1737d ago

Not everyone feels that way and if Sony is making an issue of supporting PS4 games for PS5 why not support their other past games for people who still have them or a means to buy them and play them.

KwietStorm_BLM1737d ago

You literally just said some people. So I'd imagine you can comprehend that there's a larger subset of people not in that same "some" group. PlayStation used to be known for backward compatibility. Xbox made a big deal about support for their entire catalog. What's the issue with PlayStation, who has an even more substantial history in gaming, tapping into that market? We don't have this problem on PC. It's only a good thing for consumers to be able to bring their games with them through generations on console.

Silly gameAr1737d ago (Edited 1737d ago )

@kwietstorm

Yes, I said some people. What I said was MY opinion. I'm one of those people that couldn't care less about bc, but im not saying ALL people don't care about it. I think they should spend that time and energy for future features and games, but like I said, that's only my opinion.

Imortus_san1736d ago (Edited 1736d ago )

Not every body trows their games way every time the new gen cames along, and everybody that likes games like to be able to play their favorite games in the best possible way.

PS: Retrocompatability is the most requested feature in Sony Foruns, even Sony said so.

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frostypants1737d ago (Edited 1737d ago )

The question is would the return on investment be worthwhile? Are the number of additional consoles PS3 BC would push be enough to justify the cost of developing the emulation (and it would have to be bullet proof)? I like the idea of having it, but for my part not having it won't effect my purchase decision.

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Eonjay1737d ago

You are asking the right question but the wrong way. For me, the addition of PS3 BC would add value as a customer and make it even more likely for me to buy a PS5. If it is valuable to the customer it is valuable to them.

Also, the way they are doing it would be way cheaper than a program like Microsoft had. The are emulating the hardware. Not the software.

gangsta_red1737d ago

"The question is would the return on investment be worthwhile?"

Sony could definitely make some extra profit selling PS3 games through their marketplace (the same way they have their other classics available). It's not about whether or not it will effect anyone's purchase decision, it definitely didn't do so for the PS4. But as others have expressed, it would be a nice addition to have for PS5 if Sony could open up their whole library digitally and physically to users.

ShadowWolf7121737d ago

Racing games should be some of the easiest to emulate and they're still not hitting 60fps with it, to say nothing of image flickering and occasional sound issues.

Still gonna be a bit yet before they have it fully up and running, it seems, and even then it may only work for part of the library. :/

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Gwiz1737d ago

Is it possible to have PS3 emulation on PS5?yes depending on what kind of power it really has.
An i7 9700k is no slouch and the PS4 already has a God of War 3 running much better with less
power required because they converted CBE to X86 which is not something you want to be doing in the long run.

What power would be required to play these games emulated at said PS4 version?.
It's not an easy situation Sony themselves created and ultimately I believe they are happy this way because they
want you to use PSNow,that service is why you will not even get it. (let's not forget that it was a huge investment)

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