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Three Design Faults of the Vita that Sony Refuse to Recognise.

The Vita is not without it’s problems or design faults. While there are few documented cases so far, it does have some issues.

faysal4067d ago

sounds like you hade a faulty ps vita.. i had mine dropped, left to charge over night and had it on/standby untill it ran out of charge and non of that happened to me. since your ps vita stopped working for no reason you should have just told them it was faulty which they have to give you a replacement at least here in the uk. maybe in usa they do things diffrently.

bakagaijin784067d ago

Agreed. I've dropped my vita more than once with no breakages. I leave it on or in sleep all the time (I only turn it off to switch out memory cards) and have left it plugged in to charge for days on end. No burnouts, cracked screens, etc.

xursz4067d ago

Yeah i've dropped mine down a flight of concrete stairs and its gotten no more than some tiny dents on the outer rim and a few scuffs.

The only design flaw I've come across is how the screen reacts with moisture. It's a result of the capacitive touchscreen, not a flaw with the system because my ipod has the same issue but I always have to restart the psvita when the screen encounters moisture, because it gets all wonky and there's no way of fixing it without exiting my game and restarting the system. If there was a way to "Reset touch" in the quick options menu I'd be happy.

I'm surprised I don't see other vita users mention this because its my only annoyance with the system.

Blastoise4067d ago (Edited 4067d ago )

"sounds like you hade a faulty ps vita.. i had mine dropped"

"I've dropped my vita more than once with no breakages"

"Yeah i've dropped mine down a flight of concrete stairs"

You guys do know you're supposed to play video games on the Vita? Not juggle them?

murdock554067d ago

ps vita is very strong device, have you seen ps vita drop test on youtube?

Mounce4067d ago

Shhhhh....SONY REFUSES.....TO RECOGNIZE. . . .Don't argue with the article-maker. He knows Sony is hiding from his words of truth.

G20WLY4066d ago

Be fair guys, the writer of this article is right… It’s like when I drove my Ferrari into a wall – the damn thing broke! Man dem Ferraris are badly made…/s

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user39158004067d ago (Edited 4067d ago )

You know what, every console in the history of sony has had a fault and I meant all of them. Sony has the worst customers service and alway denie to have faulty hardware its what they do best. People protecting a company as if someone its stealing your pride over an organization who dont care 2 cents for you or your problems.

Here its news for you which happens to be fact.

PS1 faulty laser and rotating plastic shocks, ps2 disk read errors/ blue screen/os and laser wearing, PS3 YLOD overheating/BC chips faulty/ blu ray and internet security hacking which took a hit from congress itself, PSP dead pixels and batterie problem, sony vaio cutting on fires due to batteries exploding inside of them, Vita exploding due to batteries and screen cracking and analog sticks, sony walkman cover breaking off, sony bravia has to be reset for 30 second and reconfigure during outtage. The list goes on.

Sony its one of the most un-reliable on the planet and Im not trolling, Im simply stating the truth.

Lol 6 disagrees already and will continue to climb, just go do a researched on what I said and see if anything I said its a lie. Trolls will always amase me, but what can one expect here lol...

TheGrimOfDeath4067d ago

Strange, none of that ever happened to me. I have heard that the YLOD is only affecting less than 5% of PS3 players. Less than the Xbox ROD. Also I still have my PS1 and PS2.

kayoss4067d ago (Edited 4067d ago )

Name me one device with moving parts that dont have issue. I'm a process engineer and I know that devices with moving parts in them will likely have more issue than devices with no moving parts (I rarely see any devices with that dont have moving parts). Lasers will go out, disc drive will die, pixel will die. If it happens to LCD tvs why cant it happen to hand held games or consoles? Keep in mind that consoles and handheld consoles are made up of hundreds if not thousands of parts put together to make them work. When you produce mass quantity for the public, there are bounds to be a few bad ones. Just look at Nature, even in nature you see imperfection. Humans with known born disease due to DNA not matching, plants that bear rotten fruits... what make you think that assembly line to make stuff like this cant make mistakes.
Sony has one of the lowest defective product out there. Their customer service is opinion and depends on who you get as your rep. I have had helpful ones and a couple who are douches, but an individual is not reflective of the entire company as whole.

user39158004067d ago

Do a research on sony products and If you cant figure it out go to the weblink provided and see which one of this you might fall in.

http://www.urbandictionary....

VitaOwner4067d ago

Ok, a lot of the issues you stated are not a lie but they affect only a very small minority of consoles and people. Guess what, no company is perfect and some of their consoles will have a flaw. You are trying to make it seem like every console ever sold by Sony has all of the issues you mentioned and if someone disagrees with you they are just Sony loving trolls. I still own my ps1 and 2 and they still work. You failed to mention probably the greatest console design fail which comes from Microsoft and the Red Ring of Death which has affected far more people than anything you have mentioned. And I own a 360 and got RROD on 2 different systems before I got one that is working properly.

HiddenMission4067d ago

I've bought 2 of each Sony console and I have never had even one problem.

I like to think that this comes down to owners who treat their electronics like shit. My day one PS3 fatty has had hundreds of games and thousands of gaming hours put into it and guess what still runs.

My Vita is played all the time by myself and my 3 kids and guess what still not problems and my kids range from 6 to 13...so yeah

People who hate on Sony for hardware are trolling...hard

rainslacker4067d ago (Edited 4067d ago )

You know what, every console in the history of GAMING has had a fault, and I mean all of them.

Fixed that for you.

Any consumer electronic device that runs off of integrated circuits or capacitors is going to have faults from time to time. Any mechanical device is also going to have faults. Some are more pronounced than others, sure, but that doesn't necessarily make them faulty.

Manufacturing defect =/= faulty design. The original PS1 did have a faulty design in their lasers, and that was remedied on their 2nd revision of the hardware.

Also Sony is far from the worst. Their products overall fall well withing industry defect standards. Quite honestly I could use up all my bubbles listing the reported faults of all the devices made by any company, so just because you did some "research" doesn't meant your trolling isn't trolling.

On that note, I have owned many many Sony products over the past 30 years. The only one I had trouble with was the PS2 which started to read discs slowly with lots of searching. I had the technical knowledge to tweak the laser, so it cost me nothing to fix. I haven't owned a single MS hardware product that didn't break in a year, and that's the main reason I stayed far away from Xbox until they became irrelevant to me.

@Grimm
The issues he listed do happen. They are just made out to be bigger than they are. The internet had that effect on consumer electronics. People tend to share their bad experiences, which is natural. That just gets blown out of proportion. Even RROD went from 33%(speculated), and now many people are saying it's upwards of 60%(unfounded).

@ATi Below
That's not really a design failure or flaw. That was a design choice because Sony was selling a game machine, not a cell phone. Quite personally I would not want to use the Vita as a phone, nor would I want to pay the extra costs to have the Cell transceivers put into the device.

antiriad4067d ago

@nlv
seems you are still suffering from your 12th rrod and need someone to blame.
Sadly you know nothing as you never owned the consoles.
The ps1 had a cooling problem,has not affected half as many people as the rrod but it was.
the ps2 worked extremly well for a new product and your "reading errors"?
Don"t be a dipshit-all systems have some reading errors.
PS3-10-15% ylods,360 50% rrods.
10% is a lot but pretty normal for a technical product with 2 new standards:Cell ship and Blu ray

By producing millions of units you will always find some failures and you are even talking about problems that occured by less than 0.01%.

I think MS should search more intelligent guys like you to troll around,because there is no such product on this planet that has worked that bad like MS Windows and the 360.

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ATi_Elite4067d ago

The one Design FAILURE that Sony refuses to address is that the Vita doesn't have a Cell Phone feature and that my friend is why it's Sales Figures SUCK!!!!

Kur04067d ago

It has Skype, which is better than paying for an over-priced cell phone contract.

Seraphemz4067d ago

Why the hell would I want cell phone feature on my Vita????

Kingthrash3604067d ago

What kind of a design failure is that? "Cell phone feature".... thats like saying a cell phone needs thumb sticks or a laptop needs to fit in my back pocket or a car should have turbo boost so I could jump over traffic. The vita is not a cell phone its a gaming system....smh

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DarkHeroZX4067d ago

I had my first vita for over a year and was in perfect condition and I abused the hell out of mine. It's durable as shit. I even got so mad that I threw it and the most that happened to it was a few messed up pixels. Thank god for accidental warranties though. I've learned through experience with Apple products ,however, is that when buying new technology always buy from a retailer like BestBuy or RadioShack who offer extended accidental warranties. But now with a year of experience under my belt I've learned the proper way to handle the vita and I now feel like I'm ready to import that Soul sacrifice edition vita even though it won't have a warranty straight out of the box due to leaving Japan.

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strigoi8144067d ago

Stupid issues..thats so fake bro

GribbleGrunger4067d ago

23 people out of 4.3 million have complained about charger burning! That's a HUGE percentage and definitely an indication of a design flaw. This is outrageous. Can't a hacker just enjoy the games and not worry about what he does to his system effecting how it works.

rainslacker4067d ago (Edited 4067d ago )

I loved how this whole article was prefaced with the many different custom mods available for the Vita. I think as soon as you change the firmware to something custom that the manufacturer doesn't want on the system you pretty much lose your right to complain.

This is the first time I have ever heard of any of these problems. One would think that if they were widespread we would have plenty of doom articles about it by now.

I kind of believe these reports are leaving out a critical piece of information on why they happened, although I can think of reasonable theories on why the screen may have broken, most of it due to OLED(or touchscreen tech) in general. Custom firmware could definitely effect the charge overheating of the system, since it's integrated with the software. Hell even a power surge can cause this, and I'm sure most people aren't plugging it into a surge protector to charge. I know, having worked in many customer service type jobs, that most people never give the whole story, and it's NEVER their fault.

GribbleGrunger4067d ago

Yes, exactly. Seems to me that the 'tampering' is to blame here and not the hardware. But even if it wasn't, like you say, we would have heard about this continuously over the last year. My friend started on this road on his PSP, refusing to download official firmwares and waiting for unofficial ones. Not only did he miss out on lots of additional features, but eventually that wait for unofficial firmwares got so long that he never touched it again.

DA_SHREDDER4067d ago

no mention of clickable analog sticks? Man everyone is in denial

TongkatAli4067d ago

Ummmm, ok ? Its still better then a 3DS.

OmniSlashPT4067d ago

Tbh the biggest design faults are the missing L2 and R2, how are you supposed to cross-play console games without it? I understand no clickable analog sticks, but missing buttons is too much. Also I think it could be a little bit more comfortable to handle, it's bulky, but not in a good way.

bakagaijin784067d ago

I thought this would be an article about those very issues, not about faulty hardware based on experiences of only a few.

I agree with your points (no L2/R2 buttons and a design that is not very comfortable to hold for long periods of time). I wouldn't mind clickable analog sticks either. :)

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies13d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken13d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga13d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken13d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6413d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long13d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197212d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic12d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12513d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91313d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer13d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91312d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit12d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher13d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6912d ago (Edited 12d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit12d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher13d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken13d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197212d ago (Edited 12d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic12d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2313d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218313d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder13d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts13d ago

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"... off a cliff"

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Sony May Soon Let You Decide How Much NPCs Talk In Games

Sony has patented to add multiple dialogue modes to let players switch between how many conversations with NPCs they want in the game.

blackblades19d ago

Sony is like the only ones outta the 3 that has atuff like like this pop up changing thing in ways.

just_looken19d ago

Sony in the past has always been first at bat with new ideas/tech but in the end never fully use it or just toss it away.

blackblades19d ago

I think they did use some but yeah most usually never happened but at least they thought about it. Sony seeks things like this and other, Nintendo seek different ways of playing going by there different controler designs and console designs.

just_looken19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

some of the other stuff sony want's/owns never used
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://www.eurogamer.net/s...
https://metro.co.uk/2023/03...
https://decrypt.co/114754/s...

monitor/adjust game difficultly as you play
https://www.techradar.com/g...

Sony nfts
https://www.theblock.co/pos...

Pay ai to play the game for you
https://thebusinessofesport...

Oh all the above last 12 months

I just imagine a evil scientist with test subjects when it comes down to sony recent patent reports.

Kaii19d ago

Will we get dialogue options that won't spoil puzzles in a matter of seconds? :p

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Judge rules in PlayStation's favour in $500m patent infringement lawsuit

Genuine Enabling Technology was seeking damages, claiming the tech allowing PlayStation consoles and controllers to communicate infringes its rights.

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S2Killinit21d ago

Big victory for Sony. And a long time coming.

DarXyde20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Crazy to think the savings from this lawsuit allows them to develop one AAA game.

Make it Bloodborne 2, please and thank you.

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Profchaos20d ago

Sounds like patent trolling they tried the same thing against Nintendo with the same pattern.

Motion and control input traversing over higher and lower frequencies seperate from each other allowing the controller to do both

Pyrofire9520d ago

Patents suck. Most of them are complete garbage.

Knightofelemia20d ago

So to recoup the money Genuine is going to take on Nintendo or Microsoft next. I hate patent lawyers they are some of the worst bottom feeders out there.

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