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Has the PS4 Already won the Next-Gen Race?

Forget hardware stats. Forget price point. Forget RAM, controllers, marketing and fanboyism. All those things don’t matter on who is better or what console is worse. The race is already well in hand for Sony and its PS4 console.

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Just_The_Truth4075d ago

How about we wait until they announce the Xbox

classic2004075d ago

Or wait until they announce the blocking of used games and always online.

_-EDMIX-_4075d ago

PS3 has outsold the 360, with a higher price point and a year late.

MS had the least studios last gen, even less thisgen besides all the kinect studios they formed.

Sony owns MORE then what they did when they started this gen. Mind you GTA and FF and MGS going multiplat at this point mean nothing. They are just 3rd party games now.

Sorry, but MS is in some huge trouble, unless they go out and buy like 5 teams, they are in to lose next gen....again.

M2-4075d ago (Edited 4075d ago )

"PS3 has outsold the 360, with a higher price point and a year late."

source?

"MS had the least studios last gen, even less thisgen besides all the kinect studios they formed."

MS have 21 first party studios which I think is more than they had last generation. Only 3 are dedicated Kinect studios (or have only released Kinect games to date).

Jek_Porkins4075d ago

Well I'll start by saying this, Microsoft improved from 24 million units sold with the original Xbox to over 76 million with the 360. They are headed towards first in North America, they have had the best selling console in NA 25 straight months.

They actually have 20 first party studios now, over the last 4 years they opened 5 new studios and bought Twisted Pixel.

Sony went from dominating every market and 150 million consoles sold to 74?

Just_The_Truth4075d ago (Edited 4075d ago )

How about we wait until they announce the Xbox. We have no clue when it's coming out and that whole theory is trash. The wii came out at the same time as the Ps3 but it sold the most. Their are too many unknown factors like price, games, features that we have no clue about to even assume the ps4s won. Don't get me wrong Ill only be owning the ps4 but let's be reasonable.

broli40004075d ago (Edited 4075d ago )

I'm guessing you didn't read my article then. It explains it out fairly clearly. Just to sum it up though... the first console out has been the one with the most games and the developers have been able to maximize the potential of the console quicker. That jump in content is what ultimately wins the console race.

Next time, read the article before you comment.

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Since you edited your comment after the fact and apparently still haven't read my article, I go over the specific fact that we don't know when Microsoft is going to release their console yet. However, using the past as an indicator, the first one to release their console wins the race. If both release at the same time, then it will be up to other factors but content is king and always will be.

PSVita4075d ago

"Microsoft simply sold more consoles in the US because they released first."
Ok maybe that was the case in the US but how do you explain everywhere else were the Xbox released first and sold less? In order for the ps3 to have out sold the Xbox 360(which it has) when it released a year and a half later it would have needed to sell more year over year.

"We saw the same thing happen in the previous race where the PS2 was out before the Xbox was and destroyed it in terms of sales regardless of not being as powerful of a console."

You know the dreamcast came out nearly 2 years before the ps2 but failed badly the head start didn't work out to well for them now did it. Also the wii came out a year after the Xbox but out sold in the US.

If you wanted to write an actually decent article you should have written about factors like ads, popularity and society have a huge influence on why consoles sell well instead of this illogical theory.

Bumpmapping4075d ago (Edited 4075d ago )

Kinect 2.0?

Yep Kinect is so original Move as you say is just a "gimmick"... I am all for borrowing ideas and improving them but you make it sound like that Sony is the only one to borrow ideas of its competitors.

broli40004075d ago (Edited 4075d ago )

You know, I'm interested in the kinect2.0 if it has the holodeck-esque room enhancements that have been speculated. I personally think that motion controls are a gimmick and really only see the kinect's visual recognition as more of a luxury aftermarket purchase, but it looks like they are going in the right direction with it.

Sony's Move controllers are absolutely just a gimmick that they've essentially stolen from the Wii. I'll be interested in this generation if they are able to use it for anything more than they did this last generation.

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This comment system is weird. @KUV1977 - The Wii released in 2006, but who knows how long they were working on functionality before then. Ultimately, it only matters what was released, not what was worked on because we'll never know the real deal.

KUV19774075d ago (Edited 4075d ago )

Wii released in 2006. The following is a video showing SONY working on MOVE-like tech in 2001.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

It's okay to bitch around and say x stole from y but get the order right!

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EDIT: And yet you claim it was stolen by SONY from Nintendo. I think 5 years in advancement and bringing out EyeToy way before the Wii at least strongly suggests that SONY was the one working with stuff like that first. They may have had terrible marketing so that EyeToy never took of and they may thus have made the 'bad' decision of bringing out MOVE that late, but calling them tech-thiefs seems a bit weired giving the circumstances.
By the way, similar footage exists of SONY working with IR-depth-cameras with the same company that MS later used to build Kinect. SONY may make bad decisions (business- and marketing-wise) but saying they do 'nothing but steal', which is a widely accepted prejudice, is just plain wrong.

Proeliator4075d ago

Really, really good article. Sony is putting up a fair fight this gen.

rapidturtle4075d ago

Microsoft is gong to need some exclusive titles. They can't keep hanging their hats on Halo and Gears. They are also going to have to rethink charging for online play. I just can't see them ripping off online players for another generation.

broli40004075d ago

Yeah, I'm with you and I think they will get more exclusives. I don't think we'll see any console get too many exclusives at launch just because of the nature of the business, but exclusives are going to be a huge reason for a console doing well.

hazardman4075d ago

I'm buying a PS4 and you can bet your ass its to play my main titles Killzone, God of War, Uncharted, GT6, MLB the Show, Super Stardust.

I like more of sonys other games but the same ones I've been playing all these years are the same ones I upgrade consoles for! Seeing what your favorite games will look like with the new technology is what does for me!

Sony no doubt got everyones attention! And I think that the nextbox will impress as well. Only time will tell!

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere50m ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

PassNextquestion25m ago(Edited 23m ago)

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

Profchaos24m ago(Edited 24m ago)

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto3m ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg1h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos1h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion20m ago(Edited 17m ago)

I think if used correctly it could work well

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10111d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref10d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde10d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197210d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville10d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218310d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos10d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai11d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref10d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan10d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0079d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197211d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197210d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref10d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde10d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197210d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197210d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier10d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto10d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218310d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto9d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman10d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts10d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts9d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic9d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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