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PS4 Reveal Could Force Microsoft To Delay Next Xbox To 2014

Mobile & Apps: "Recently Sony officially announced its next-generation video game console, the PlayStation 4. Everything Sony showed proves that the company means business, and this could potentially force Microsoft to delay its next console, in order to be a true contender for years to come."

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BakedGoods4076d ago (Edited 4076d ago )

While most opinion pieces are worthwhile, the sheer amount of ads on that site lead me to believe this is a hit generator peice with little foundation outside of "what if".

MS would be shooting themselves in the foot by delaying release. While Sony has the upper hand MS is no slouth, they must have something up their sleeves. No doubt MS has been developing the next Xbox for the last few years, Sony's reveal probably did little to hinder that.

Vames4076d ago

I would have to disagree that this is just for hits only. However, I am not the owner so I am unable to do anything about the advertisement problem, you are not the only one complaining. I'd recommend you use adblock to rectify the problem.

Anyway, I apologize for the inconvenience.

BakedGoods4076d ago

No worries, ads are an important part of revenue. Fair enough, I trust the author is coming from a place of honesty rather than stoking the fanboy fires.

MikeMyers4076d ago (Edited 4076d ago )

Makes no sense to wait until 2014. Microsoft doesn't need to match specs as long as they provide a good platform with great content. So what if the next Xbox isn't quite as powerful? The forums will always be a place for arguments and favoritisms and of course brand loyalty. Where people will focus on any weak point they can. All the arguments between the PS3 and Xbox 360 and how they matched technically didn't really matter much in the end now did it?

irepbtown4076d ago

It will not be delayed till 2014...

Lets say the PS4 is more powerful, Microsoft will release its console: then a more powerful one maybe a year later. We saw them improve the 360 in steps, why not this time?

Though I also doubt what I've just wrote as I'm sure both Sony and Microsoft will pull out the heavy weapons.

g2gshow4076d ago

apologize lol for what??? who ever doesn't like ads should just stay off the internet cause thats all your going to see time is money an everyone has to get paid... warm bottle of milk anyone?lol

phinch4076d ago

@ irepbtown..... they didn't change any specs though, it was just a remodel that helped prevent overheating

Irishguy954075d ago (Edited 4075d ago )

Hey at least you didn't have 5 pages for the article

*Glares at gamingbolt

kayoss4075d ago

I'm a playstation gamer but I do own a Xbox360 for some of their exclusives. With that say I don't think it matter that the next box is not as powerful. Look at the ps3 vs Xbox360. Both console really Well regardless of the power difference.
I'm actually worried that in future multiplatform games on the ps4 will might to sacrifice because games will be made on the next box and ported to the ps4 just like this gen.

Ritsujun4075d ago

They were like, "CRAP we need to upgrade our Xboo specs."

miyamoto4075d ago (Edited 4075d ago )

M$ has deep pockets it will do anything to stop Sony from dominating the living room again.

Autodidactdystopia4075d ago

if that happens then ps4 will get the jump.

b777conehead4075d ago

to irepbtown
you do not understand real world do you . it would cost to much to build two models a year apart with diferent specs. plus upset people who bought the lower specs a year before. they changed the 360 to stop overheating and added a wireless card build in but did not change the specs

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evilhasitsway4076d ago

it is possibley cause look at ps3 came out more than yr after 360 maybe ms thinks this will work for them and it just might.

B1663r4075d ago

Or Primesense doesn't release the new Kinect sensor until later this year as has been prominently posted on their website since January...

greenpowerz4076d ago (Edited 4075d ago )

Stupid article and fanboy logic.

The 720 could be more powerful in the first place.

Sony's rumored specs where not set in stone but MSFT's is? LMAO

"Durango is a memory monster, shipping with 8GB of RAM up against 'just' 4GB in its Sony competitor. It's an ambitious strategy, made necessary owing to Microsoft's hopes for the new Xbox to be more than just a games machine - the hardware is believed to reserve a significant amount of RAM for media functions, and rumours persist that the console can run dedicated apps and media side-by-side with gameplay"
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

PS4 rumored specs that were almost dead on just weeks ago, 4 gigs of Ram now changed to 8 gigs of Ram after the reveal. http://www.vgleaks.com/worl...

MSFT being stuck with old rumored specs and Sony forcing MSFT to re-do the 720 after Sony recently changed their specs is delusional paranoid fear logic/reasoning/deflections.

MSFT more than likely had a few prototypes in the pipes to counter any of the competition directions/ambitions.

For all we know the leaked stuff was a ploy. Crytek has been working with MSFT behind the scenes for a couple of years now on exclsuives and probably next gen console concepts. The next Xbox will be very powerful due to it being a hybrid PC for games and MSFT products.

Sony not showing hardware after announcing a new console, after changing specs to slightly beat rumors of specs of the competition and it's MSFT with the weaker console that needs to be delayed? LMAO

otherZinc4075d ago

@greenpowerz,

That is the post of the year to date!

You said everything I was going to say since February 21st; one day after the release of SONY's PS4 statistics theyre shooting for.

kickerz4075d ago

Microsoft has been working on this next gen machine for years. I highly doubt it will be crap. If it is I will be hugely disappointed.Its all about the games though and I really hope there will be some awesome new first party games.cant wait to see.

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Sh0ckWav34075d ago

i agreed , i said it b4 but you know how n4g is...

BlueTemplar4075d ago

@greenpowerz so all the devkits out there are of completely different spec to what they're going to unveil?

One thing to up the amount of ram in a new console, another thing entirely to ditch the motherboard so they can swap in an entirely different type of ram

greenpowerz4075d ago (Edited 4075d ago )

MSFT has used different spec levels of different prototypes as well.

4 gig 720 from the first leaked docs assuming they were leaked vs planted as a ploy for MSFT's competition. http://arstechnica.com/gami...

8 gig 720 from another supposed leak possibly planted as another ploy
http://gamerant.com/xbox-72...

MSFT asks the leading devs making the most advanced games and or with the most advanced engines/tech at the time of development to help design xbox(s) as they always have, this time being Crytek ID/RAGE etc(not talking devs not exclusive/1st party devs)

PM me for that job if your not messing around LOL.

Man I think their was like 6 differnt 360 hardware prototypes and over a dozon shell concepts. You best Bet MSFT has a few differnt 720's mocked up assuming they're not going with the rumored ungradable 720 where the higher sku can be fitted with better specs later on.
http://www.google.com/searc...

I'm assuming MSFT will be going with the most expensive and best spec prototype they have considering they were stingy with price cuts this gen vs destroying PS3 with a proper price cut(s) to take the massive hit for the 720 launch (price control)

Also MSFT test ran the subsidized payment plan on the 360 which is proving to be great for them.

BlueTemplar4075d ago (Edited 4075d ago )

@greenpowerz you cant seriously believe that there are 6 different varieties of dev kits out there that developers are working on in parallel just to make sure they have stuff working on whichever one microsoft finally decides to use?

I think you need a reality check.

BlueTemplar4075d ago

@greenpowerz even if what you are saying was right (which it isnt), anything released in the first year or so of the consoles life would have to have been developed for the lowest specced prototype - games arent developed in a couple of months, they take years.

Knight_Crawler4075d ago

N4G is infested with PS3 loyalist and will attack anyone who dares to criticize the PS brand.

MS can cure cancer and some how the people on here would find away to make MS look like monster by saying that they stole the idea of curing cancer from Sony.

This place is going to go into melt down when MS announces the 720.

pixelsword4075d ago (Edited 4075d ago )

Let's just wait until MS" reveal. I think Sony shot some of their load for one or two reasons :

1. To keep momentum going on their stock after the news that they were in the black

2. They have so many games coming that the E3 time would cut into the experimentak games the want to show.

ABACAB724075d ago

Well, to be fair, Nintendo didn't show the WiiU when it was originally announced either, so it doesn't really matter. Having said that, MS has always had some sort of box to show once they first announce a console. They did it with both the Xbox and the 360. So, I would expect them to have a console to show for this one. Whether it is the final one that we get once it comes out remains to be seen, but that's something that they do differently than the other companies do.

kenshiro1004075d ago

And you guys freak out whenever people criticize Microsoft (and rightfully so). I look forward to Microsoft's announcement. I hope for their sake they won't announce a Kinect 2.0 because if they do, there goes their fanbase.

Perjoss4075d ago

What Knight_Crawler said is both sad and true.

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MysticStrummer4075d ago

Why would MS delay? Even if they rush out a faulty product, they've done it before and it worked out well for them, so there's not reason not to do it again.

GameSpawn4075d ago

Except that it has taken them over 2 years to dig themselves out of the bad PR that came of the Red Ring fiasco and consumer trust still isn't that great with them.

You can be assured Microsoft will not release a half-assed console again. Remember: "Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me." -- Don't make the same mistake twice.

I also don't see them waiting a year after Sony because the 360 is no "PS2 fallback" like the PS2 was for the PS3 (by this I mean they don't have the foreign/3rd world market interests to keep the 360 going steady like the PS2 did when the PS3 came out). Microsoft NEEDS to release at the same time as the PS4 or they will never keep pace. Hell they had a year with the 360 and Sony caught them by the end of the generation (was much faster in non-US regions, aka Japan and Europe minus the UK).

ABACAB724075d ago

You have to remember, the RRoD was not purposefully done. They did rush out the 360, and paid dearly for it. They did do the right thing by extending the warranty however, and once they were doing that, they were making the slim model of the 360, and took their time to make sure that the same thing didn't happen again. They're not going to rush it out. They've learned their lesson. If that is really the only chink in the armour of Xbox's history, that's fine with me. Besides, they can't really afford to release another faulty product. They are still new to making hardware themselves, and have to realize that it can't be treated as they do software with a simple update and that's it.

morkendo234075d ago (Edited 4075d ago )

ps4 reveal could push nextbox back to 2014

thats a bunch of BULLSH'T the real deal MS not ready to release becuz as I said many times on here a friend of mine work in xbox quality control center for gaming he is a engineer said: they having heatsink problems and connectivity infar-red issues with kinect combining everything as a whole that not tweak out yet. need more time to adjust.

my opinion if nextbox release sooner it will be a disaster this time.

JohnnyBadfinger4075d ago

No bloody Idea what you just wrote then...

Assuming English is your second language. So I can tollerate that. Pretty sure you don't have a friend who works at Microsoft. All the employees would be forced to sign a nondisclosure agreement before they are hired. If he voided that, and Microsoft found out he will be flogged harder than a teenage boys man bits.

showtimefolks4075d ago

i think next xbox and ps4 will launch around the same time, but even if one is 6 months apart i don't think it matters as much as what people want you to believe

ps4 launched a year after yet did good and now has #2 spot in world wide sales.

release your system when its ready MS we don't want another RROD

007Bond4075d ago

P$3 did it and they came out alright so im sure M$ would as well.

Mike134nl4075d ago

Could be or not, either way both consoles have a similar pc structure. I do believe that the ps4 will be the better console. If the new xbox or ps will be underpowered compared to its direct competitors it will most likely show in the pricing of the consoles. In the end is has too be seen if the added processing power of either consoles (whichever will have the better hardware)will lead to a substantial graphic advantage.

If Microsoft might ad/change something it will be on the peripherals it might be a touchpad like on the ps4 and ouya, speaker or a forbid a share button. This would most likely not lead too a delay into 2014.

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000014076d ago (Edited 4076d ago )

i thought it was understood both Sony and Microsoft are taking two separate paths to be successful next generation.

Sony is going after the primarily gaming only crowd, while introducing social features to integrate its games into everyday life making "social gamers" out of all of us. Sony still plans on offering media and apps but this will all revolve around gaming is first and central, the philosophy they outlined at the reveal.

Microsoft is continuing the route they've been on with Kinect, media and apps. Why fix what ain't broke? Kinect was confirmed by Guinness World Records as the fastest selling tech of all time back in 2010. Microsoft will continue to push hands free software as well as media capability with Kinect 2. At the same time, Microsoft will also strive to make the next xbox a complete media box rivaling the cable providers or even services like netflix and hulu. Games will still be there, but i would expect mostly third party titles with a few new first party ip's.

Minato-Namikaze4076d ago

Ps3 was the number 1 used device for netflix. Sony i think is gonna take a balanced approach like it did for their last 3 systems. Hopefully MS realizes they went too far casual towards the end of last gen and comes back towards the middle.

Blackdeath_6634076d ago

i couldn't agree more. MS sees the xbox as some sort of living room tool that can do everything and provides for all consumers the casual,the hardcore and the non gamers but i feel that this will make the xbox a jack of all trades but master of none. yes sony has other services but they are targeted at the core gamer whereas MS is trying to target everything.

dcbronco4076d ago (Edited 4076d ago )

It's amazing people buy into those two ridiculous arguments. Fanboys are incapable of reason. They are fanboy arguments and should be ignored. Use common sense.

The Wii U is probably more powerful than the PS3 and 360. I'm sure it is. But it still looks like a slightly enhanced Wii on paper. They got a lot of additional power from re-designing the same parts with more modern technology. There is no reason to be the PS4 is more powerful at this point. Microsoft's own leaks show that they plan to use dual GPUs. One mainly for graphics and the other mainly for compute. But both capable of both.

How can anyone think Sony is doing anything different from Microsoft when they are both doing the same things. What features are there on the 360 that the PS3 doesn't do. Kinect, Move. Both have movie services, casual games on their networks. Music services. Sports. Sony additionally has Blu-ray. But somehow there is this silly argument that they are going for different audiences. They are not. The PS4 will have a camera in the box just like the 720. They will have Apps. Facebook, Twitter and a browser. There is no difference in an attempt to get the casual user.

It's all based on fanboys, who are completely incapable of comprehension or rational thought, repeating the same phrases over and over again. Or more simply put, Nazis. Repeat the same lie again and again and it will become the truth. Joseph Goebbels would be proud.

000014076d ago (Edited 4076d ago )

so because i think the two consoles will go after different audiences this time around im a fan boy? where in my post did i say one is more powerful than the other or anything regarding one system having features the other didnt? please tell me, you wanted to see a fan boy where there isn't one.

_-EDMIX-_4076d ago

Though both Sony and MS are aim for casual and Hardcore, only Sony looks to take the casual stuff with a little more respect. I say this with a game like Knack, its not Kinectamls or anything like that. Its a game thats art direction is clearly geared at a younger audience but noting so "shovel ware like" that its a turn off. I see ME getting that game and I'm currently play BF3 and Dead Space 2.

But on the 720, if they want to do a whole "Fable Journey's thing" I don't see me as getting one.

Another thing to note is, Sony invested a lot of money in buying studios and the handfull they bought this gen shows it. MS didn't. They only bought studios for Kinect and even closed down a lot of studios while doing the whole "Kinect trimming the fat" plan.

I'm just saying, they year before MS started teh whole Kinect craz, they got ride of a ton of studios and didn't fight to keep the ones that left, it was as if they where being let out of contracts not to be re-done. I start to find it hard to believe Bioware, Bungie, Bizzare Creations etc all just wanted to up and leave ending of 2007. I'm sorry but that is just to much of a coincidence. MS made some moves and its quite clear studios knew this and began looking else where.

MS made a choice, they paid for it, opened up studios for it and closed the rest of the hardcore studios to get it. Now this tells me MS is looking to cash in on Kinect big time and really...why not? They made money and clearly they feel there plan worked. If MS wanted to do a "Sony" ie buy a bunch of studios in a generation....they very much can....they didn't. Sony did, MS didn't. To say they have the same plan is a joke and you seem to only be looking at the surface. ie Sony has Move and MS has Kinect...and...Sony had the Eyetoy for PS2, didn't stop them from buying over 6 studio this gen to make hardcore games. Kinect stopped MS from doing that and even made MS get rid of the few they had, IPs and all.

dcbronco4076d ago (Edited 4076d ago )

No Blue. I'm not saying you're a fanboy. I'm saying those are fanboy arguments. They are based on nothing but a "My chose FTW" mentality. I'm saying to feed into them.

Edmix,

The goal is the same. The dancing puppets game is not aimed at the hardcore market. Both systems are trying to capture as much as they can of an ever expanding market. A Market that includes more and more casual players. Players that over time can be moved over to different kinds of games.

Microsoft isn't stupid enough to believe that casuals are the market. Casuals are fickle. They will jump on the next big thing and then be gone. People look at Kinect as a casual only product. I don't think it is or ever was intended to be. But Kinect was easy money for the current generation. The power to do other things with it won't be there until next generation.

People talk about them closing studios. What successful studios did they close. Thy disbanded studios that weren't working. They made studios to do things they thought would. The current generation has gone on far longer than people expected. MS invested small amounts in Kinect titles that probably mostly made a profit. Sony invested millions in a lot of exclusives that probably lost money. At the end of the day they are still companies that need to make money.

The key is people are assuming that Microsoft isn't working on hardcore games because of this generation. Sony might be thinking that too. I'm sure Microsoft would hope they are. No one expected Surface. No one expected the changes to the 360. It's good to be underestimated. I actually doubt Sony will be stupid enough to not take Microsoft seriously again. That's why they have a camera peripheral too. It's an expanding market and the guy standing at the end is the guy that gets the most of it.

But like you said. Business wise you can't argue with the results. Sony is a company on the edge of bankruptcy looking to gaming to keep it from falling off the edge. You think some of that casual market would help?

_-EDMIX-_4076d ago

I agree with you 100%. MS sold over 18 million Kinects and closed studios to make Kinect studios. (I think there might me equal to more Kinect studios then core studios) They made a lot of money, but I truly believe they may not go back to the "hardcore" outside of Halo, Gears, Fable, PGR and Forza. I think this because of the acutal moves they ahve made.

Sony bought studios, MS closed them down, and when they did buy and open studios it was to fund kinect. Even studios they owned before Kinect are working on Kinect games. Sony did do all of that, though the Move sold about 15 million, Sony doesn't have its core main studios exclusively making Move only games in the same respect MS is doing with there own. Business wise, MS is going the Kinect route harder and stronger then Sony is going the Move route.

Where Sony bought teams like Guerrilla Games in 2005, Zipper 2006, Evolution Studios and Big Big studios in 2007, Infamous in 2010 and Media Molecule in 2011. I think I'm missing a few to.. Sony very much geared and invested in targeting developers to make core games, MS got rid of teams that would make core games in favor of Kinect games.

Business wise, you just can't argue with results. MS made a lot of money cutting those studios and making Kinect games, they made a lot of money off the hardware too. I don't see MS buying studios and going "nuts" for the hardcore next gen, like Sony did this gen. They have all but one new studio to make core games, I think its called Black Isles or....its in Canada. But they are the only developer to my understand that was bought by MS to solely make a AAA FPS IP for the MS for the 720 to cease the BS from MS.

dcbronco4076d ago (Edited 4076d ago )

Edmix,

Another thing you're not taking into account is that while Sony hasn't opened Kinect only developers, they have closed some of those hardcore studios. So give Microsoft credit for the foresight to drop what's not working. As time goes on and Microsoft has given Sony true direct competition, Sony has adjusted the way it does things. They have to look at it as a business instead of throwing money at a wall.

And the "I just want good games" mentality has to die with bad studios. Everyone wants good games, but companies need to make money in order to keep making games.

Also, You gotta love how the "It only does everything" crowd criticizes the other machine for doing anything but gaming. Not saying you Edmix. Just commenting on that fanboy mentality in general.

Bigpappy4076d ago (Edited 4076d ago )

The is Zero difference between M$ and Sony other than Sony having a few core studio's. They are direct competitors. Sony is coming heavy of the social media front and is just as eager to play to the casual crowd as M$ is. M$ will have an equally capable system and it will release this year. If will focus on core gamers and have many social apps built in, just like Sony. Sony has its casual camera just like M$.

@ EDMIX: M$ sold over 25 million Kinect and 76 million 360's. http://news.softpedia.com/n...

ABACAB724075d ago

Why not do both? I think this next gen, MSFT is going to be able to do well on both the multimedia and gaming fronts. No reason why you can't do both of them well at the same time, and be able to give people what the want on both ends of the spectrum. How they do that remains to be seen.

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Moonman4076d ago

Anyone who purchased a 360 the first year should give Microsoft a hard time until the hardware is solid. "Rushing" hardware should be the LAST thing they ever do again. Jeez!

SpinalRemains1384076d ago

Rushing their hardware ultimatelt lead to more sales for them.

We can talk about rrod till we're blue in the face, but the facts are that users purchased multiple boxes rather than abandoning the system. They enjoyed playing their 360s and they got replacements. Then they got another replacement. Ultimately this was a happy accident for Microsoft and the 75 million consoles sold reflects that. You think Microsoft would rather have dependable hardware leading to 36 million consoles sold worldwide?

I certainly do not think so. Money maketh the world go round.

Minato-Namikaze4076d ago

But that short term gain could cost them long term customers. At some point people will start to take a wait and see attitude with a manufacturer that sells shoddy hardware

jmac534076d ago

I love how people say that the RROD gave Microsoft more sales when that is so wrong. Microsoft was forced into replacing the consoles costing them a ton of money. I should know since I had to send in my console about 4 times. I know one thing for certain the next Xbox will be rock solid in reliability.

stuna14076d ago (Edited 4076d ago )

I wouldn't say it was such a happy moment for Microsoft, considering that they had to set aside Billions for replacements.

@jmac53 it did boost the sells of the 360! Because a lot of people didn't want to wait on repair or, replacements! Many just went out and bought new ones.

Drekken4075d ago (Edited 4075d ago )

I will NEVER buy a Xbox because of the RROD BS. NEVER. I talk people out of buying one because their hardware was unreliable junk. If you think the RROD benefited them in anyway you are absolutely off your rocker.

And lets just mention real quick how people can site they sold 76mil 360s... how many of those replaced a 360 out of warranty? Way more than replacement PS3's. The number of people actively playing a working 360 is way lower than 76million.

ABACAB724075d ago

The same could be said for the PS2. Most people forgot how the original PS2s used to break down with the overheating and the disc read errors. The difference was Sony didn't extend their warranty and you had to pay to fix your PS2. It wasn't really worth the hassle, because they are known for charging through the nose to fix their stuff. That's Sony, btw, not just PlayStation. Sony products are normally very expensive to get fixed after the warranty expires. That's one of the reason why most of their stuff hardly breaks down, or people just buy a new device. Really, the RRoD is the first major hurdle that MSFT had to deal with, cos there was no problem with their first console at all. But no one would know that cos most people didn't buy it.

andibandit4075d ago

@SpinalRemains138

But it was a happy accident for Sony too, many users switched to Sony, and we can thank MS for sony having 70-80 million sold today instead of 30 million.

/s

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Walker4076d ago

And billions of dollars in losses for microsoft !

givemeshelter4076d ago

How many billions did Sony lose over the PS3? That's right....
Remember it comes with the territory of launching new consoles.

redDevil874076d ago

What? He didn't even mean it as an insult to the 360 yet you took it that way lol.

Take off your fanboy shades and re-read what he wrote.

kenshiro1004076d ago

Sony executives must have touched you in the wrong place or something.Rushing to defend a corporation when you accuse Sony fans of doing the same thing.

Hmmm....

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers4h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

z2g16m ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

H99m ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

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Xbox Is Not Your Friend

After laying off almost 2,000 people, Xbox finds itself in a position at odds with the community-first image it has cultivated for itself.

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TwoPicklesGood4h ago

lol I’m not a big MS gamer but Sony and a number of others have laid off ton of people as well. Where are the ridiculous articles about them not being your friend? Gaming news is such a joke and these sites wonder why they have to beg for money/patreons or flood with 5x more ads.

Profchaos3h ago

I think the sentiment is corporations are there to make money they are not out friends that are harsh and cutthroat when lt comes to the bottom line so why do we proclaim our love for any gaming company from the rooftops when they wouldn't care about us unless we are buying the next thing.

We need to beore objective with how we view these "teams"

Gridknac2h ago

This is the absolute truth. The only part of you these companies, ALL companies, want to be friends with is your bank account. They don't care what they have to say, who's job they have to cut, or what shady underhandedness they must engage in. Bottom line is all that matters.

Vits1h ago

Because people unfortunately make these companies and products part of their own persona, so when they are scrutinized, they see it as an attack on themselves. There is some neuropsychological research around this phenomenon, but it basically has the same effect as religion. It helps foster a sense of community that humans need to feel comfortable. So that is not happening unless we have a sudden surge of people actually understanding how they work and taking control of themselves.

Magatsuhi1h ago

While it's true Sony isn't a friend either, let's not pretend that they're even in the same ballpark as MS's anti consumer practices. Sony is not a friend but atleast they're not an enemy like MS.

derek2h ago

@twopickles, were you not paying attention? Sony was heavily criticized when they laid off people weeks ago, more than Microsoft did with their massive abk layoffs.

Gamingsince19811h ago

I want to know who thought Xbox was community first anyway lmfao

ChasterMies49m ago

That’s Whataboutism. Sony and other game companies didn’t pay more than $80B to buy up publishers. Microsoft said in court that it wasn’t going to have redundancies and fire people. Microsoft told Xbox owners that they would have a AAA on GamePass each quarter. But here we are with Microsoft Game Studios shrinking. Consolidation doesn’t benefit the consumer, and no company has consolidated more than Microsoft.

BehindTheRows45m ago(Edited 43m ago)

Exactly. They love their SonyToo instead of looking at everything in its totality. You spend $80B to buy up so many pubs/devs, you damn well should have something to show for it.

That said, this article is old and someone is clearly looking for clicks!

z2g14m ago

I’m glad you see the thru the reality distortion field so many on this site don’t. My brother-in-law was just let go from PlayStation (here in PV/LA) literally just weeks ago after taking the job just 2 months before. He quite his previous job that was doing just fine to work for Sony.

Christopher5m ago

I agree that every corporation is part of the problem, but bit perhaps in the future have more of an argument than a whatsboutism? It makes it sound like your only issue is that people are complaining about Microsoft.

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cthulhucultist2h ago

ok here is a reality check. Tech companies have been firing thousands of employees the last couple of years.

I find it odd that the percentage of employees sacked from MS

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"Microsoft announced approximately 1,900 job cuts across its gaming division, including Activision Blizzard, ZeniMax, and Xbox. 8.6% of its colossal 22,000-strong global workforce. "

is worth writing an article condemning the company, when Sony Interactive fired 8% of its workforce (900 people approximately).

https://news.crunchbase.com...

Is the writer concerned about the percentage of the workforce fired or the number of employees?

Lets not forget that Unity laid off 25 percent of its workforce (1800 people) and Discord laid off 17 percent of its employees.

You also have to take into account the AI issue reported in the article. MS is heavily invested in A.I. They have invested in Open A.I (chatgpt 4+Dalle 3), in Abu Dhabi’s G42 and in French AI company Mistral.

These LLMs have already replaced thousands of jobs as A.I usage becomes more common

https://www.cbsnews.com/new...
https://www.theverge.com/20...
https://tech.co/news/compan...

This is the new reality. Even nvidia CEO said that games will fully A.I generated.

https://www.pcgamer.com/sof...

Nevertheless, no company should be ever viewed as "your friend". MS had numerous anti consumer practices in place and the same is true for Sony (not only in video game space) and Nintendo (60$ dollar games without permanent discounts, remasters of 10 year old game with full price, no console price cuts, expensive joy cons which are prone to drift, to name but a few).

Popsicle2h ago

Must be. Thought it to be common knowledge that no corporation is your friend.

thesoftware7302m ago

Hahaha, I was thinking the same thing.

Silly nonsense that applies to all companies. Do people really think these companies care about them? we are consumers, and they track us by $$$, not our character, personality, family, or this over-inflated console war.

rippermcrip2h ago

Xbox had a community-first image? Since when?

shaenoide2h ago

Any given company is not "friendly"...

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere15h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN12h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos10h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN3h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo4h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies54m ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger12h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Profchaos14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto14h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos14h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long11h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel13h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator12h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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