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How Likely is Xbox 720 Backwards Compatibility?

Gaming Future takes a look at the possibilities for backwards compatibility support with Xbox 720.

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Omar914076d ago (Edited 4076d ago )

I understand those who say "I will play my ps4 for ps4 games and keep my ps3", but if the whole purpose of sony adding all these great features to ps4 are to make gaming more convenient for everyone, what better way can you make a console convenient to players by having 4 systems in 1? Sure I can keep my ps3 and play ps3 games when I want, but thats not convenient at all. It would be nice if they find a way to make this all work.

Nextbox will most likely have a similar approach to BC using a cloud service imo.

NYC_Gamer4076d ago (Edited 4076d ago )

I doubt 720 will have traditional backwards compatibility..I'm keeping my old consoles anyway so doesn't really bother me..

BanBrother4076d ago

Yeah probably only MS first party games. The BC on 360 is quite limited. PoP 1 is BC, but not 2 and 3 lol.

Next-gen will have a huuuuuge amount of remasters of games we have this gen, mark my words.

MikeMyers4076d ago (Edited 4076d ago )

After all the headaches and paying royalties to Nvidia from going to the Xbox 360, I think the next Xbox will have it. They are once again going with AMD and could easily offer it either on the hardware end or through the cloud. Perhaps both Sony and Microsoft will have a streaming service, or continue selling them digitally, that gives consumers the option to play older generation titles. Probably makes more sense from a business perspective.

C-Thunder4076d ago

I think that we, as gamers, should hope they can add it, even if it isn't at launch, purely because many Xbox exclusives deserve to be playable in the future. Lets face it, in 10 years we'll probably be hard pressed to find functioning Xbox 360s, there's just to much in them that goes wrong too often.

majiebeast4076d ago (Edited 4076d ago )

Not gonna happen next xbox is moving from PPC to X86(rumoured) So they would have to put a 360 in every Durango, which would up the cost of the console by a generous ammount. This includes both disc and digital title's not being BC.

turnerdc4076d ago

Not necessarily. They could do like they did with the Xbox 360 and do software emulation. The original Xbox was x86 while the Xbox 360 was PPC.

greenpowerz4076d ago

I love how Sony fans are sure what MSFT can do or can not do, or will do or will not do when they want to paint the 720 the way they wan't in defence of PlayStation.

BlueTemplar4076d ago

I love how you are sure what they will do without a single shred of evidence to back it up.

Seems you're happy to believe rumours that you like, while instantly dismissing any you dont.

SDF Repellent4076d ago

Of course it can happen. First, Microsoft is a software company and they will have a better knowledge of implementing BC through emulation via software; especially when the last GPU was from ATI, which is much easier to do BC than the PS3 with its Cell processor and Nvidia GPU. It is a combination of hardware and software that will enable this to happen.

BlueTemplar4076d ago

That knowledge didnt serve them that well with B/C on the 360 - they only got around half the games working after about 2 years before giving up on it - and those that worked were full of glitches and issues.

Also, you say that as though the other platform holders arent software companies - what are the games they produce if not software?

SDF Repellent4076d ago (Edited 4076d ago )

Hmm, because just like the PS3, the GPU in the original Xbox was made by Nvidia vice ATi? I thought I pointed that out already.

Regarding software company, I think you are either trying to twist my words or just not understanding the words that are coming out of my mouth. What I meant was Microsoft is a software company first, that is what they are, so in order to do emulation, you got to be good in writing software and create the emulation. That is why they will have the advantage over Sony, and did such a great job of emulating most of the original xbox games for the X360, which is something that Sony had failed to do with the PS3/PS2.

Edit below. Son, when you are talking about BC it is mostly software and unless your hardware feature components that are similar to previous hardware that you are trying to emulate, it is a hard task to do. Even if Sony is a better hardware maker, so what? They make the best cameras, the best TVs, the best mp3 players that feature all the bells and whistles but where have that gotten them? Hardware is only part of the equation, along with software, a long term overall plan, and marketing.

BlueTemplar4076d ago (Edited 4076d ago )

I understand you perfectly well, but just because they are primarily a software company doesnt mean they are the only software company in the land that is capable of writing emulation software.

EDIT: And they didnt do a "great job" of emulating xbox software on the 360 - only the halo games were playable at launch and both they and subsequent games were a glitchy horrible mess to play.

Also, if we accept what you say and that microsoft make the best software because thats their primary business, does that mean sony makes the best hardware because they are primarily a hardware company?

rainslacker4076d ago (Edited 4076d ago )

What a load of crap. First you don't emulate software, you emulate hardware. Are you telling me that Sony which has the capability to build 5 entirely different consoles, all built on highly specialized processes and unique chips, don't understand hardware or software enough to write their own emulators.

Perhaps you missed the flawless emulation of PS1 games on the PS3, Vita, and PSP, or the awesome emulation of PSP games on the Vita, or the limited emulation of PSN PS2 classics on the PS3. Quite honestly much more impressive than Microsoft's lackluster software based emulation which was pretty much crap on a majority of games because it was incomplete.

There is a big difference in architecture with the Cell which is preventing PS3 BC on the PS4, and as much as it sucks, it's understandable, and honestly, the GPU isn't really the issue on any system.

More on topic: Right now it will depend greatly on how much different the architecture is on the nextBox. It can also come down to IF MS wants to support BC. They are perfectly able to block it for whatever business reason they feel will benefit them. Not to call out MS on this, but I am personally wondering why PS1 BC isn't available in the PS4 since the emulation is definitely possible. Only reasonable assumption is to force using the cloud or get people to rebuy games(hence, not really BC).

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Bethesda Needs to Reduce the Gaps Between New Fallout and Elder Scrolls Releases

Waiting a decade for new instalments in franchises as massive as Fallout and Elder Scrolls feels like a waste.

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-Foxtrot12h ago

Microsoft have Obsidian but I feel it's Bethesda who just don't want to play ball as they've always said they want to do it themselves.

Once MS bought Zenimax in 2020 they should have put the Outer Worlds 2 on the back burner, allow Bethesda to finish off its own Space RPG with Starfield (despite totally different tone why have two in your first party portfolio with two developers who's gameplay is a tad similar) and got Obsidian for one of their projects to make a spiritual successor to New Vegas.

When the Elder Scrolls VI is finished Bethesda can then onto the main numbered Fallout 5 themselves.

The Outer Worlds 2 started development in 2019 so putting it on the back burner wouldn't have been the end of the world, they'd have always come back to it once Fallout was done and it would have been nicely spaced out from Starfields release once they had most likely stopped supporting it and all the expansions were released.

If they did this back in 2020 when they bought Zenimax and the game had a good, steady 4 - 5 years development, you might have seen it release in 2025.

We are literally going to be waiting until 2030 at the very earliest for Fallout 5 and all they seem bothered about is pushing Fallout 76.

RaidenBlack10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

Its not just only Todd not playing ball.
Obsidian have made a name for themselves in delivering stellar RPGs, but most famous once have always been sequels/spin-offs to borrowed IPs like KOTOR 2, Neverwinter Nights 2, Fallout: New Vegas, Stick of Truth etc.
Obsidian wants to invest more in their own original IPs like Outer Worlds or Pillars of Eternity with Avowed.
Similar to what Bluepoint & inXile wants to do or Kojima is doing (i.e not involving anymore in Konami's IPs).
So yea, even if New Vegas has the most votes from 3D Fallout fans, Obsidian just wants to do their own thing, like any aspiring dev studio and MS is likely currently respecting that.
But a future Fallout game from Obsidian will surely happen. Founder Feargus Urquhart has already stated an year ago that they're eager to make a new Fallout game with Bethesda, New Vegas 2 or otherwise. Urquhart was the director of the very first 1995's Fallout game after all.
And don't forget Brian Fargo and his studio inXile, as Brian Fargo was the director of Fallout's 1988 predecessor: Wasteland

KyRo6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Obsidian should take over the FO IP. They're do far better with it than Bethesda who hasn't made a great game for almost 15 years

RaidenBlack51m ago(Edited 50m ago)

@KyRo
So, by 15 years, you mean Fallout 3 was the last great game Bethesda made?
You don't consider Skyrim a good game, which came out 13 years ago?
I'd consider Fallout 4 a pretty decent game as well. It's Story & RPG elements were a bit downgrade from New Vegas but the exploration and shooting on the other hand, were upgrades.
FO76 was disappointing and Starfield could've been better at launch I'll agree.

Duke196h ago(Edited 6h ago)

I disagree. Part of these games is the support for the mod community. If they move to releasing a "next game" every 2 or 3 years, the modding support plummets and the franchises turn into just another run of the mill RPG.

Make the games good enough to withstand the test of time, to keep people coming back to them and expanding on them with mod support.

--Onilink--3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

I dont think anyone is saying they need to come out every 2 years (not to mention almost no game is released that quickly anymore)

By the time Fallout 5 comes out, it will be more than 15 years since Fallout 4 came out (same with ES6 coming out 15 years after Skyrim). Even if you want to use F76 as the metric for the most recent release, that one came out in 2018. It will be a miracle if F5 comes out before 2030

The point is that for a studio that doesnt seem to operate with multiple teams doing several projects at once, that their projects normally take 4-5 years as a minimum, and that now they even added Starfield to the rotation, it becomes a 15+ years waiting period between releases for each series, which doesnt make sense. Imagine that Nintendo only released a mainline Mario or Zelda game every 15 years…

They either need to start developing more than 1 project at a time, let someone else take a crack at one of the IPs or significantly reduce their development times

Duke192h ago(Edited 2h ago)

Why should someone else take a crack at one of the IPs? Look at what happened to Final Fantasy as a recent example - there is pretty clear FF fatigue setting in because they are now pumping out titles in the franchise every few years. Pumping out more games faster doesn't always make a series better.

There are plenty of options to make new games, not just create more titles in the same universe at a faster pace.

mandf3h ago

Yeah I’m going to say it, who cares about the modding community when making a game? Half the time developers only tolerate modders because they fix there game for them.

Skuletor5h ago

Yeah, let's all advocate for smaller gaps between series' releases, then we'll probably get headlines about how the series have dropped in quality and they could have benefited from more time in the oven. Let them cook.

SimpleSlave4h ago

"how the series have dropped in quality and they could have benefited from more time in the oven" So every Bethesda game then? Got it.

Listen, I would agree if this was about From Software or something, but Bethesda?

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C'mon now. What timeline are you from?

Skuletor2h ago

Think about it, they're already bug filled messes on their current schedule, can you imagine how much worse it would be if they rushed things?

Duke192h ago

I mean you aren't wrong. People are going to complain about anything

isarai4h ago

Hows about you focus on quality, just a thought 🤷‍♂️

Sciurus_vulgaris3h ago

Bethesda [or Microsoft] would have to reallocate internal and external studios towards fallout and elder scrolls titles. Bethesda has the issue of developing 2 big IPs that are large RPGs on rotation. If you want more Fallout and Elder Scrolls, development will have to be outsourced.

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